Hey, you should probably be aware that G*psy is a racial slur! OP probably meant Roma (if ethnicity), or Traveller (if talking about a traveller group other than Roma descent). This isn't very widely known in the U.S., so not faulting you for not knowing it, but you might wanna consider editing the word out if it comes up again as you would casual use of any other racial slurs.

@xionkuriyama5697

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for bringing it up, hope people don't jump on you for having empathy.

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Looked into it and you’re on point. Definitely my bad for not checking before. I’ll use appropriate terminology in the second part. Thanks for letting me know

@xionkuriyama5697

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrispysTavern Based Crispy, I am here for it. For real, you are quickly becoming my favorite RPG story tuber.

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Op here. I didn’t know that. I was an entertainer for over a decade and we used to say we lived that kind of lifestyle. That meant we would travel from town to town entertaining for money with no real place we called home. I didn’t even think about a racial connotation behind it. Thank you for correcting me. I mean that

@crow2989

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamA-cw3be Well Gypsy isnt entirely a slur. While it certainly can be used as one, it’s simply a word that identifies a group of people or identifies a nomadic lifestyle. It is fine to identify as a Gypsy and many gypsies proudly do.

"Its not real fantasy unless it has dragons!" The actual dragons appearing in Journey to the West: "Wut."

According to the taoist creation myth, the yellow god-king gave up his mortal form to become the yellow dragon, and the earth is formed from his body. The yellow dragon inhales yin and exhales yang, that's where qi comes from. Qi is literally the breath of a dragon. Bro do you even taoism.

"It's not real fantasy unless it has dragons!" I know I'm preaching to the choir but Journey to the West absofuckinglutely has dragons, long with almost every kind of demon under the sun. It indirectly inspired stuff like Dragon Ball, so you can't get any more fantasy than that...

@Geth-Who

2 жыл бұрын

When even your horse is secretly a dragon, you're fantasy.

@shadenox8164

2 жыл бұрын

I would say directly inspired Dragon Ball personally.

@noelleholiday61

Ай бұрын

​@@shadenox8164Such a direct inspiration that the original story of Dragon Ball (no suffix) was essentially just a retelling of Journey To The West, to the point that Son Goku is actually just the Japanese version of the name Sun WuKong

"You only know me by the screams of my enemies" oh hey it's "AAA AAA Hhhh H" everyone say hi

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Legit, when he said that my thought was that every time I want to talk to you I need to scream incoherently? Im glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that!

@adambeckett8394

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamA-cw3be Cheap digital recorder, hit up every sound fx website you can find for screams (bonus points for getting the Wilhelm scream), and voila! Randomly play one every time you introduce him to an NPC... "And this, my lord, is *wilhelm scream* the party's Halfling edgelord and ballast..."

@anarky1765

Жыл бұрын

When I first read this story, I nicknamed Larry’s character “Darth Syphilis”. This was for a couple reasons: 1. He has the personality of a venereal disease. 2. He acts like a Sith Lord, trying to sway others to the Dark Side of D&D. 3. His character description reeks of Sith Lord, with black on black and even a mask, and being overly eager to kill something. 4. I like Robot Chicken.

@WTFisTingispingis

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the legendary warrior known as "Blrk!"

how do edgelords not realize how unintentionally funny their super-serious, grimdark "i wear the blackest of black cloaks over the second blackest of black pants" is? "if Mii doesn't use her swords, i'm gonna die!" ...good? ripperino in cappuccino. a well worded Persuasion check can be more powerful than any spell.

@TrackerRoo

2 жыл бұрын

Them: My hood is up and I stare at the rest of the group silently from the shadows. Us: Let me guess, while thinking about all the ways to kill everyone here?

@falxblade1352

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrackerRoo I saw "lete guess" and immediately thought about sweetroll thieves. I might need to stop playing Skyrim

Questions for the other players: Why would your characters continue to travel with Larry's character? Why would you trust a masked, hooded mercenary who is a jerk to the rest of the party?

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Op here. It was league night. Anyone who shows up can play. Just the nature of league rules.

Op's creativity and roleplay easily make up for her not killing her foes. She's still fighting, she just knocks them out instead.

The dm massively dropped the ball on this. Like, HARDCORE dropped the ball. Larry needed to be shut down immediately, instead the gm decided to slink away and whimper while an obnoxious player destroyed any enjoyment the party had for the campaign.

Wow! This is my story!!!!! thank you so much for doing it, Crispy. I understand why you broke it up into to parts. it is a long one!

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sending it, friend.

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrispysTavern okay, this I going to bother me if I don't say it. two quick notes. Bre is pronounced like the cheese brie. its short for Breanna. thats on me I'm sorry. and miichl is pronounced me-shelle. like Michelle, only with me instead of mi. I did put a edit on how to pronounce it at the bottom. sorry. I loved everything else. I really did!

@theofficerfactory2625

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite stories. First came across it on Allthingsdnd and never skipped it whenever I came across it.

I can say I would never want to play with Larry, he sounds worse than anyone I've ever encountered. Also I have to disagree with your take on the no killing part, the way they are doing it sounds like they are still helping with combat, and 5e's rules for nonviolent goes something like "a player can choose to deal nonlethal dmg with a melee attack, if a target takes nonlethal dmg and hits 0 hp then they are unconscious and stable" That's it, it doesn't make the fight any harder, it doesn't take away exp, nor interfere with the others play style, it's purely for roleplay and is super easy to do. There could be rp reasons not to, but nothing mechanically that I can see, and as an adventure league game it really should be set up to allow rp to happen so less reason to punish it, making the complaints about 'getting less kills' pointless

I honestly love the Op’s creativity here. I’d love to have them as a player

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Op here, thank you.

@wolfherojohnson2766

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamA-cw3be You're welcome :)

@thefakecat8340

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamA-cw3be Grade A imagination. Didnt even think of how a monk could work in a circus and you pulled it off greatly

Where was the DM in all of these encounters and OOC talk with Tom? As DM I would have nipped some of that in the butt. Or at the very least, not allowed Larry to kill Cluckers. It clearly was done to spite Mii. Plus Larry clearly has no human decency, empathy or emotions it seems. To take everything in the game other than him as non-essential is very troubling.

Problematic player? Dont beat around the bush, don't find an opportunity to kill their character with RNG, just kick them from the table. Saves alot of headaches.

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

League night. Anyone who shows up can play. Unfortunately nature of the beast.

Also, shout out to the Marine would decided to also be a therapist AND an awesome DM. I'm thankful for their service, in all three areas. Well done

3:24 strikes me that OP was playing something close to the design what I would suspect would be Ty Lee from Avatar

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this, but does anyone else think that OP was basing his character on that circus girl that hung out with Azula in Avatar the Last Airbender?

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Shhh quit giving out my secrets lol. Seriously tho, she and cirque du soleil were big influences of Mii

@strawberryjam6235

3 жыл бұрын

Her name was Ty Lee

Why do people think RPGs are just about looting and killing everything that moves?

@Redtail45044

3 жыл бұрын

Because there are RPG-games that happen to have it as the easiest method, and I'm not talking ones like D&D. (Pretty sure there's a couple like VoM-Vampires of the Masquerade-that are easier that way too.) Also, look at a lot of RPG video games that want you to kill everything that moves, or further that by allowing you to kill NPCs, like the Morrowind Series. Sure, the games are fun but they allow for some horrible influences when it comes to D&D. ...That, and some people just want to kill everything that moves as a way to release stress, and don't care what the others want to do.

@aurora5481

3 жыл бұрын

If you walk into a game with the expectation that it's like an RPG but more free, the way D&D, especially experience-wise, is built will read like encouragement to do so. The way you 'win' is by killing a lot of things and stealing their stuff. All you need is your first group to reward that behaviour, actively or by putting up with it, and that mindset will be set for life.

@IsaacDeJong

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the game gives players experience points for killing creatures and nothing else. I know there is now milestone experience built into 5e, but any dnd game before that had no such thing. If the game were set up to reward players mechanically for role play we would probably see a lot less of the murder hobo kind of behavior.

@aurora5481

3 жыл бұрын

@@IsaacDeJong Technically, you get experience for overcoming encounters. It doesn't require you to kill them. A DM who understands that should give you experience for cleverly bypassing a troll encounter or allowing yourself to be arrested and solving the legal scuffle in court with good charisma rolls just as much as they'd give for fighting it out. That said... milestone all the way. The one good session I've ever gotten from XP came from a misunderstanding of the rules. (A cleric levelling up mid-combat, saving the party with a 3rd level spell after having already spent all of his other spell slots, narrated _beautifully_ as him pushing a step closer towards his god and finding himself not burning for it, now stronger and able to find that gift within himself. Needless to say, we were all pretty fucking bummed when we realised it wasn't gonna happen again.)

@IsaacDeJong

3 жыл бұрын

@@aurora5481 I like that interpretation a lot.

I played a pacifist druid once. He had been a war mage and the trauma of the war made him swear too never use magic to harm others again so he tries to heal. Though he could still be helpful by healing or using spells like Tangle to trap enemies. Sadly the game never went anywhere but I liked him.

I think this is my favorite DND HORROR story. Mostly because it has a happy ending, but mostly because OP stopped a murderhobo in training from becoming said murderhobo. Very wholesome in a strange way.

9:56 I don't like how they use "adhd" here. "not idiotic or adhd" as though those two are similar. I hate how people throw around adhd like it can be applicable as a place holder for air-headed, or absentmindedness, STILL. It hurts. I want people to be more considerate, because ADHD does not mean idiocy. It does not equate airheadedness. The amount I hear this, is just... so annoying, and upsetting to me, an adhder. I could be reading into this, but I'm just so tired at this point.

7:33 Is the edgelord Frollo or something?

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Took it right from my head, had the quip written and everything. Cut it last second because I was recording all night, though. RIP.

I honestly don't see an issue with the pacifist character since they're still contributing to the fight, just tanking and knocking enemies out. Just because it isn't killing doesn't mean it isn't contributing like say just being in the background and watching or eating rations while your companions fight to the death.

@andrejg4136

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, even from a mechanical standpoint, you can easily reward forcing a capitulation or retreat/flee the same as outright killing. It's called being adaptable to your players.

@EmeralBookwise

Жыл бұрын

Seriously. I've played a pacificist healer class before. Well, she wasn't strictly opposed to violence or even outright killing enemies in the heat of battle, she just had very limited offensive abilities. She did know how to wield a long spear, and although her attack bonus was nearly non-existent, she would still flank and use the aid action to assist her more combat capable allies in between rounds when her highly specialized spell casting wasn't needed.

Mr Darkcloak McDarkclothes makes me want to play a Performance Rogue who scams people in broad daylight in front of a crowd

5:48 - Here's the description in simplified terms... *ahem* "Dark dark dark dark dark. Dark dark dark, dark dark. Dark! Dark dark dark. Dark dark darkity dark". Tl;dr - Generic edgelord

Crispy I love your videos. Thank you for making them. Always makes my day better

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks friend, comments like this make my day better in turn.

Let us not forget the "edge lord", is a wizard.

This feels like a battle for Tom's soul, where the only reason Larry keeps winning is some blind bro-code.

Two interesting stories running alongside, nice background of the monk

As others have pointed out tho g*psy is considered a slur and roma, romani, or traveler is preferred depending on the specific group

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Just looked into it, I’ll be replacing the term in the second part. Thank you for commenting.

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Op here. I had no idea. I spent 10 years as a professional touring musician and we referred to ourselves as such because we were always on the road, never slept in the same town for more than a week, and lived by telling stories and entertaining. It was in that context it was meant. I meant no negative connotation and apologize for it.

WHAT THE FUCK is it with these players killing other players' beloved pets? First the pig story and now this. I hate when they do this; killing animals for cruelty is one of my berserk buttons.

@EmeralBookwise

Жыл бұрын

True, although in these situations the DM should also bear some responsibility for allowing the action. A pet should be considered an extension of the character, attacking it is the same as attacking them and a DM should absolutely be within their authority to disallow non-consensual PVP. Admittedly, this isn't something I was always great at myself back when I DM'd, but I'd like to think I've learned from those mistakes.

OP's character sounds like if Kvothe was a monk instead of a multiclass bard+wizard. I love it.

Description of Larry's character has so much edge that I cut myself while pausing this video

an entertainer monk? very cool idea

The monk sounds like a lot of fun, fantastic party member. Larry is a noob.

Nothing is wrong with min-maxing, some people want to have a strong character and sometimes the party even needs that hard carry. The problem comes when people don't make good characters to come along with that. Yea you're a God at combat but what about the roleplay of that character. At my table, if someone is a God at combat and I recognize this, instead of punishing that player or posting about them I pull them aside and say "hey, you did it, you won this game, you beat it. I don't think you will have fun at this table unless you roleplay" sometimes they stay and become a great role player, sometimes they leave the table. But ultimately the problem is dealt with.

@CrispysTavern

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree. I’ve talked about the nuances of min maxing in other videos. It’s definitely not a net negative.

@fancifulbread8040

3 жыл бұрын

@@CrispysTavern love your content. By the way could you do an video about dm burnout? Been suffering A lot of that lately

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

Op here. I agree with you. I think that there is no real wrong way to game, and I’m not a gate keeping bastard. But Larry killed my pet and ate it in front of me, and then broke her stuff so to limit my ability to play my character, on top of decrying the gm if we were put in any situation he could kill something, and even tried to prevent us from going shopping. That’s not min-maxing. That’s going out of your way to stop the other players from having fun. There is a line and he crossed it. Or I thought so anyway.

@fancifulbread8040

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamA-cw3be I'm not defending him in anyway. The reader of this story did call him a min-maxing murder hobo. I saw it fit to defend min-maxing. Not this player. Sorry for the confusion :)

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

@@fancifulbread8040 ooh okay okay. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

So the DM is completely fine with and condone hostile interparty interactions? How is the DM not saying "no, you don't kill and eat your comrade's companions"?

Journey to the West has no dragons?! So what are the Sea Emperors then? Also the horse is actually a shapeshifted dragon.

I've heard this story before on another channel and it's a favorite. But I consider it a "Glory" story and not horror just because of how fantastically it ends.

"it's not real fantasy unless it has dragons" there very much are dragons in Journey to the West

Oh, someone else is reading this story? Good! This is a story everyone needs to hear! XD

Damn OP was cooking with there character! Holy!

Regarding the Monk story - someone should go & tell Jackie Chan that the Chinese Opera skills he has are false

@sherylcascadden4988

Жыл бұрын

Shanghai Noon is a great movie. I've never run a monk, maybe I should consider it.

@360entertainment2

Жыл бұрын

@@sherylcascadden4988 I’ve been wanting to play an Orc Monk for ages, I just want a o make him a completely Zen hippie who loves Nunchuks and Meteor hammers!

An elf? who's a ranger? with a panther named Gweniviere? we sure this isn't a Drizzt fan..?

Larry Story - You Seppos are way to polite. Here in NZ he would have been told to GFH.

I find it utterly bizarre what goofs Crispy sometimes makes in these, like here referring to a barbarian instead of a paladin. How does this happen? If reading from a script, such an error should be impossible.

Just playing Devil's Advocate here....but if he wanted to play a sword wielding circus performer, would not a sword bard be more up his alley than a monk?

@elephantbear6992

3 жыл бұрын

They could have played almost any class if they wanted. You don't have to play the optimum class/race combo if that's not the character you want to play.

@aurora5481

3 жыл бұрын

They explicitly did not want to use swords in combat, they're just used in shows and using them to kill is a grievous offence. If they don't want to play a caster, it makes sense to pick an unarmed class, so fighter or monk. Four elements gets your spells and other flourishes, so there's your answer. Just as well someone else could ask why a former acrobat with a high dex who doesn't use weapons would want to go bard.

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

I’m it going to lie, I could have played a bard with Mii, but I had played a few bards before and never played a monk, and kinda wanted to go against type. This sounded like fun so I went with it. And as other people said, monk got perfect with the abilities and how I wanted to play her.

@SamA-cw3be

3 жыл бұрын

@@aurora5481 exactly my thoughts when I built her! Thank you

@aurora5481

3 жыл бұрын

@@SamA-cw3be As a acrobat monk player, I gotchu ;)

God I hate munchkins...edgelord munchkins even more.

WTF are there "fighter pits" in every city?

Personally, if I were the GM here, while I would have taken a dim view of the problem player's fairly overt bigotry ("all g****s are thieves" is pretty blatant; I wouldn't fault someone for simply saying the word, at least not unless there was an open Romani in the room), I would also have flatly denied the OP's choice to name her character "Mii", simply because it would be too confusing to hear players constantly saying things like "give the item to me" and not knowing whether they meant themself or the half-elven monk. It's bugging the crap out of me (or possibly out of Mii) to keep hearing this confusion during Crispy's reading.

Oh, I heard this story before... Seems like OP just sent it out to few channels reading rpgHorrorStories.

Fun fact. Most Romani people don't mind the word "Gypsy" if used appropriately. I've met a few and they are proud of the word because they are toughened by their history.

@Tytoalba777

2 жыл бұрын

I think it also differs from place to place. In America, there isn't really much of a hatred against the Roma, so "Gypsy" could be more okay. Europe, however, had a really bad problem with anti-Roma racism, so there "Gypsy" absolutely is a slur

This is why I'll play a lawful evil character next. That way, I can ask to kill a problem player's character so we don't have to deal with his shit.

Part 1

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWyLzJSan6m3daw.htmlsi=XZQywT8LcxhRIhJ3 part 2 because I didn't see it linked and this is an older video

Some of the story reads as a "that happened" kind of recollection. Tbh at alot of it makes the op sounds a bit like a "that player" trying to be the MC all the time. Larry totally sucks period. The OP just sounds almost equally insufferable as a "look at me all my characters are so unique and cool and I totally RP the best and win everything with my RP skills" Will probably get hate for this comment but yeah lmao. Not calling OP a problem player at all, just was listening to this with someone who is really new to DnD and they even brought up like "OP kinda sounds like a spotlight hog right?" Larry is totally the problem player period, just also not sure if its just how the story is written or what but OP also rubbed me the wrong way.

Where is the OPs backbone

OP is cringe af. Role-playing the whole "charcoal drawing in the bag" gave me secondhand embarrassment

@ZorotheGallade

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sort of on the line regarding this story, it seems to be making the rounds. On one hand it's fine if you want to take it at face value and go for the "That Guy gets what he deserves and bullied OP gets the chance to shine and show him up" narrative. On the other hand I feel like the DM could have given the problem player a few ways to still participate in the big event of the campaign.

@yaqbulyakkerbat4190

Жыл бұрын

Hi, Larry!