Illegal iMac Knockoff: The U.S. Banned This PC - Krazy Ken’s Tech Talk

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  • @ComputerClan
    @ComputerClan Жыл бұрын

    "Corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture." 🤔 BTW, I made a new "tech fails" playlist for you. Have fun! kzread.info/head/PLFWeyvvxf1rjrzxzjt_6iGeYS0jiBBZfq

  • @RandomGreymane

    @RandomGreymane

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey Ken! I love the videos! If you want to see a really weird passing fad computer company look up Rock City Computers. They had this weird cube shaped PC balanced on its corner.

  • @ComputerClan

    @ComputerClan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RandomGreymane Sounds interesting! I'm having trouble finding it. Is there a place I can read more information about this?

  • @andredeketeleastutecomplex

    @andredeketeleastutecomplex

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ComputerClan maybe he ment Rocket City Computers

  • @RandomGreymane

    @RandomGreymane

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andredeketeleastutecomplex No the name was definitely Rock City Computers. I posted a reply with a link to a picture I had lying around but I think it obviously needs approval before it's allowed. It was in the early 2000's and it was interesting because it looked like nothing anyone had seen before. They were overpriced but definitely went into production. I hate it when we change universes. XD

  • @jordancambridge4106

    @jordancambridge4106

    Жыл бұрын

    To be fair most mothers think Blue Eyes White Dragon is a form of Pikachu so a mother is not exactly the best person to take as credible witness. Hell my mother told me to use my pokemon cards that look the cutest while I was playing Halo. Mothers do not know what the younglings are into because that is an uncles place to know things.

  • @Channel2S
    @Channel2S Жыл бұрын

    This video just cast light onto a mystery that I've been unable to answer for years. Whenever I try to recall my family's first computer (early 2000s), I distinctly remember it having the iconic shape and color of the iMac, but at the same time I also seemed to recall it running some version of Windows. Having watched this video, I'm now 100% confident that this exact computer was the one we used to have.

  • @neerjachopra1139

    @neerjachopra1139

    Жыл бұрын

    Ever thought that maybe if it were a MS-DOS compatible work Mac? I've seen people run Windows 3.0, 3.1 and Windows 95 on 'em, too. Edit: Yeah, I don't believe it to be a MS-DOS compatible iMac now that I think about it. Actually, a lot of Macs have been MS-DO compatible in the rather recent past, but I doubt the first-gen iMacs were ever one of them.

  • @Channel2S

    @Channel2S

    Жыл бұрын

    @@neerjachopra1139 No, neither of my parents would've had the need nor know-how to do something like that.

  • @trpstrincllc4866

    @trpstrincllc4866

    Жыл бұрын

    There was another one to that had a dark blue or a black color scheme.

  • @ruben_balea

    @ruben_balea

    Жыл бұрын

    @@trpstrincllc4866 Intel Dot Station? That was an Aol terminal/dumb PC, it couldn't be used as a normal PC without using a hacked BIOS and to flash that BIOS you had to short-circuit the BIOS chip on the motherboard...

  • @urmensch12
    @urmensch12 Жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact: if you put an E1 next to an M1 Mac you will get the first level of Doom.

  • @negirno

    @negirno

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally Not Puppet Masters Intensifies.

  • @ryanbauer3680

    @ryanbauer3680

    Жыл бұрын

    Urge to Rip and Tear rising....

  • @PCIexplorer

    @PCIexplorer

    Жыл бұрын

    Underrated comment

  • @el_dallasyt

    @el_dallasyt

    Жыл бұрын

    Do it and see the results

  • @Lord_Reset

    @Lord_Reset

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG lmao 🤣

  • @quinton1661
    @quinton1661 Жыл бұрын

    PCMCIA actually stands for People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms. Get it together, Ken!

  • @Clancydaenlightened

    @Clancydaenlightened

    Жыл бұрын

    Pretty Crappy Mobo & Cpu In Action

  • @BilisNegra

    @BilisNegra

    Жыл бұрын

    PCM as in Pulse Code Modulation + CIA, that's what I do to get it right.

  • @fifaworldcup1994

    @fifaworldcup1994

    Жыл бұрын

    Genius pun

  • @BilisNegra

    @BilisNegra

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fifaworldcup1994 Genius what??

  • @dlog

    @dlog

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BilisNegra nah bro its Personal Computer Memory Card International Association

  • @technerd9655
    @technerd9655 Жыл бұрын

    To be honest, I think the level of similarity between the eOne and iMac is quite common today and fewer lawsuits. Also, Apple has been guilty of the same thing as eMachines in Trade Dress cases.

  • @NoobixCube

    @NoobixCube

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn straight. I was working in a phone shop when the Samsung Galaxy S launched, and everyone was all like "oh, they're copying Apple". That couldn't have been further from the truth. If you look at Samsung's phones (their sliders and candy-bars) prior to the launch of the iPhone, plenty of them had that distinctive black face with silver trim that the iPhone 3G eventually took on. Strangely, when Samsung decided to apply _their own design language_ to a touch screen phone, people cried foul.

  • @jeremykothe2847

    @jeremykothe2847

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the fact that Apple failed when they claimed infringement over the rounded black rectangle did relax everyone a lot.

  • @phat-kid

    @phat-kid

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah i never even thought of the emachines computers as apple ripoffs. they were ugly all-in-one pcs i tried to talk my friends parents out of buying.

  • @AzraelThanatos

    @AzraelThanatos

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, the big thing is that the iMacs looked a lot like older TVs there...one joke that I remember hearing was that Mac was copying the designs of Prison TVs at the time due to the transparent case...though, that was common everywhere with different colors (Nintendo had several systems using it as well). My uncle had a portable TV that looked almost exactly like the iMac as well, including the handle, except it also have a VCR built into it as well, and had an adaptor to plug into the car hooked on due to it being, largely, used when he went camping.

  • @jeremykothe2847

    @jeremykothe2847

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phat-kid The Apples or the clones? Heh those were probably Apple's worst machines ever... The mouse alone...

  • @AndrewCamarata
    @AndrewCamarata Жыл бұрын

    I used an Eone as my first computer for years.

  • @kid5042

    @kid5042

    Жыл бұрын

    I started FL and stuff on one of these E machines it was nothing special but it worked

  • @MrBil-

    @MrBil-

    Жыл бұрын

    I have one too, (including the original mouse) it was my first computer, still works great. (I'm nostalgic about old hardware)

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    3 ай бұрын

    Did it have that sound issues as new? I'd suspect not, but that it's age induced issue.

  • @AndrewCamarata

    @AndrewCamarata

    3 ай бұрын

    I used external speakers, the one built into it worked, but did not sound nice.

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    3 ай бұрын

    @@AndrewCamarata I was meaning more about that "coil whine" style erratic sound which was mentioned in video.

  • @Micharius
    @Micharius Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the slow boot of Win98: There was well known problem back then, when Win98 was set to DHCP on one of the network interfaces, but wasn't able to get an IP. It basically screamed out for an IP for a very long time, which made the boot process very slow - you might check this. Finally, Windows would assign itself an "APIPA" IP-Adress, starting with 169.x.x.x, which was always a sign, that something did not work well. Good old days!

  • @GraveUypo

    @GraveUypo

    Жыл бұрын

    that was never an issue for me because i've always used fixed IP on my lan setups. still do.

  • @Micharius

    @Micharius

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GraveUypo The problem was that people who even did not have a LAN, but for example just a network card, where affected by this slow-boot issue

  • @SarafinaSummers

    @SarafinaSummers

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, if something has gone out to lunch, look for 169.254.x.x for your ip.

  • @xan1242
    @xan1242 Жыл бұрын

    For the noise, it might happen because for some ungodly reason the sound drivers in Win98 have enabled monitoring of the input jacks by default in the mixer. Disabling that (setting it to 0) should resolve any interference issues.

  • @Lachlant1984

    @Lachlant1984

    Жыл бұрын

    Good suggestion, I was thinking the noise was making coming from the CPU, CRT monitor or the graphics chipset, or maybe the hard drive, all those components generate a lot of RFI.

  • @RetroTechChris

    @RetroTechChris

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lachlant1984 or aging capacitors!

  • @Lachlant1984

    @Lachlant1984

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RetroTechChris Oh sure it could be, and given the price of the machine I'd say the capacitors weren't the highest quality even when new.

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RetroTechChris I'd put my money on this as it's old and that thing for sure has a lot of caps inside.

  • @efficiencygaming3494
    @efficiencygaming3494 Жыл бұрын

    When you degaussed that monitor, it brought back so many memories of the old PC I had growing up. I remember randomly pressing the "degauss" button while messing around with the monitor settings and being highly entertained when the picture warped with that loud electrical sound. Man, I wish I still had a CRT monitor...

  • @GraveUypo

    @GraveUypo

    Жыл бұрын

    go and buy one. few years back i went to one of those small shops that sell cheap old computer parts and bought 10 crts. they were 3 bucks each. they still work, they're at my farm, along with 10 computers set up in a lan. had a lot of fun in that retro lan, but unfortunately my friends never want to go there anymore. the little shts.

  • @thewiirocks

    @thewiirocks

    Жыл бұрын

    There's nothing more satisfying than hitting that degauss button!

  • @Roxor128

    @Roxor128

    Жыл бұрын

    One episode of the Bastard Operator From Hell tells you to degauss at the start of a flashback sequence. You can bet I did that back when I was still using a CRT.

  • @thewiirocks

    @thewiirocks

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Roxor128 That’s friggin’ hilarious. I loved the BOFH so much back in the day!

  • @Roxor128

    @Roxor128

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thewiirocks Travaglia is still writing new instalments. I check in for new ones every six months or so. The series is enough of a Long Runner that going on an Archive Binge gets you a sort of time-lapse of the evolution of computing technology from the early 1990s to the present.

  • @lboston4660
    @lboston4660 Жыл бұрын

    the image of that one computer lab at school filled with various color iMacs is still fresh in my head 20+ years later... and seeing these still makes me feel a sense of futurism

  • @common_c3nts

    @common_c3nts

    Жыл бұрын

    That was horrible. They always had the pinwheel of death.

  • @davey815

    @davey815

    Жыл бұрын

    Our computer lab actually used these e-machines back when I was in elementary. I know it was an emachine cause it ran off of a Windows Program

  • @th4tw3irdg1rl
    @th4tw3irdg1rl Жыл бұрын

    I distinctly remember my elementary school having two computer labs, one for the iMac and one full of the eOne. Even as an 8 year old I was staunchly Anti-Apple, so I always went to the eOne lab over the Mac lab!

  • @sqbronco1

    @sqbronco1

    26 күн бұрын

    Yes same! That Imac in the computer lab in 1999 was the first and last time i have ever used an apple product

  • @nataliekate2176
    @nataliekate2176 Жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing the iMac for the first time and wanting on so badly 😂 24 years later I’ve finally purchased a box complete 1998 Lime Green G3. She’s sitting proudly on display in my dining room 😊

  • @3rdalbum

    @3rdalbum

    Жыл бұрын

    Does her CD-ROM drive work?

  • @johng.1703
    @johng.1703 Жыл бұрын

    I really have to wonder what the legal argument went like? was it something like "granted while the eMachines customers would never mistake the two, BUT our customers are a bit clueless and stupid, so they would totally confuse the two"

  • @johnnycha
    @johnnycha Жыл бұрын

    Here are a couple of notes I have from this video: 3:00 98FE was thinking that Mendocino Celeron was a Pentium II, because it basically is (just with the on-die L2 cache running at full speed) Additionally, the eOne also came shipped with Windows Me (Millennium Edition) in the later part of the eOne manufacturing before they were discontinued in the later part of 2000. It’s just like how the iMac originally came with Mac OS 8 (more specifically 8.1) upon its release in 1998 and later came shipped with Mac OS 9 (starting with 9.0.4) in the slot-loading revisions from mid-2000 to 2003, when the iMac G3s were discontinued. However, taking from Ken's words, one is an OS that is less stable, and the other is more stable.

  • @josephvetter7085
    @josephvetter7085 Жыл бұрын

    I thought hard about getting one of these for college - the options and size made it the almost perfect dorm room computer.

  • @arthuralford
    @arthuralford Жыл бұрын

    I had an E1 that I got for my son. Eventually it ended up with my mother for her to use, then it moved on to a neighbor of hers (by which time it was so old it could collect Social Security). eMachines made some decent computers

  • @shatteredblade89
    @shatteredblade89 Жыл бұрын

    Back in 2004-ish, My mom bought a Emachines pc set up from walmart. monitor, pc, speakers, keyboard, and mouse for i believe $600-$700 back then. I believe it was a Celeron D with 256mb of ram. God i hated that thing but it worked. *Edit* The Emachines Ken showed at 13:08 was the one my mom bought. Guess it did have 512mb lol

  • @BeautifulAngelBlossom

    @BeautifulAngelBlossom

    Жыл бұрын

    dell and HP would do samethink Limit the Amount of Ram on cheaper PC once you added more Ram them computer was good including eMachines and Gateway i think Dell got sued for limited PCS

  • @BoSmith7045
    @BoSmith7045 Жыл бұрын

    My first computer was a eMachine. Got it for a little over $400 on sale at Walmart for Christmas 2001. It wasn't a bad first computer. It did everything it was supposed to do. And I learned how to tinker on computers with it.

  • @ohioplayer-bl9em

    @ohioplayer-bl9em

    Жыл бұрын

    You HAD to learn how to tinker with both software (thanks to Windows) and hardware (thanks to E- machines)

  • @ratkingofphobos
    @ratkingofphobos Жыл бұрын

    i've got one of these! i've still got it safely stashed away because it was this little gem i grew up with. it wasn't till a few years ago i learned about its history. glad you did a video on it! :D

  • @DavidHembrow
    @DavidHembrow Жыл бұрын

    The absurd thing about this is that the iMac was actually almost the same shape as a Lear Siegler ADM31 terminal from the 1970s.

  • @Grimdark_Replays
    @Grimdark_Replays Жыл бұрын

    I mean maybe there is something to be said about the shape of CRTs limiting the overall shape to some variation of a box or “teardrops” if one didn’t want a bunch of empty space.

  • @dktr2
    @dktr2 Жыл бұрын

    Windows 98 has a bug where the system tries to get an IP address from DHCP even when the cable is disconnected, it takes a long time. Just set a static IP address.

  • @yacl310

    @yacl310

    Жыл бұрын

    I think I just disabled DHCP in networking. Not really sure but, I had my 450mhz Prentium II booting win 98(& SE) in about 42 seconds on average back then.

  • @honda_fanboy
    @honda_fanboy Жыл бұрын

    Finally a new video in a billion years, keep up the great work Ken!

  • @ComputerClan

    @ComputerClan

    Жыл бұрын

    It's only been 3 weeks. 😂 But thank you!

  • @Monke_in_Space

    @Monke_in_Space

    Жыл бұрын

    It did feel like a billion years though

  • @robertdragoff6909

    @robertdragoff6909

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s why your videos are so good, you take your time making them….

  • @aarongresser2996
    @aarongresser2996 Жыл бұрын

    The eMachines desktop at 13:07 was the same one my grandma had back in the day. Fond memories of playing flash games on Internet Explorer.

  • @videomentaryproductionschannel
    @videomentaryproductionschannel Жыл бұрын

    I had E Machine, yah your right was not the fastest Machine, but was able to upgrade it a little, and it lasted for 7 years, until the fan on the CPU stopped working g and ended up with a square in the motherboard were the CPU used to be, but a great computer, love the video, happy holidays my friend.

  • @diegomax
    @diegomax Жыл бұрын

    The audio noise (lack of filtering) is most likely bad capacitors, im sure it was not that bad when new, even tho its still a crappy sound system.

  • @ComputerClan

    @ComputerClan

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting! I do have computers that are even older than the eOne and they sound fine-with the original caps! Maybe the eOne just uses cheaper electronics?

  • @diegomax

    @diegomax

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ComputerClan Well, you gotta reduce costs somehow, and im sure at that price point they went as cheap as possible. I have not seen the motherboard, but i would put my money on the caps around the audio circuitry being all el cheapo brand, leaky and out of spec.

  • @khalinrao6089
    @khalinrao6089 Жыл бұрын

    The E-One is the definition of "Sure you can copy my homework but change it up a little so no one notices"

  • @Holret

    @Holret

    Жыл бұрын

    how do you feel about desktop cases, I wonder.

  • @khalinrao6089

    @khalinrao6089

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Holret IDK I am more of a laptop kind of guy

  • @andrewmurray1550

    @andrewmurray1550

    Жыл бұрын

    that's like claiming (Simpsons-style) that Malibu Stacey is a "new" doll because all she has is a new hat.

  • @rattsy
    @rattsy Жыл бұрын

    Mate, wish u and ur channel all the best. Ken, your personality is very refreshing for latest youtube vids i've been watching. Keep it up!

  • @atari2600b
    @atari2600b Жыл бұрын

    I have one of the ATX G3 clone cases. Missing sidepanels. I restored it & still use it for my holodeck computer system. I will say, the RGB on all the incidental components makes it look way more like star trek when you're seeing it through transluscent plastic.

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought the original iMacs were cheaply built but wow you see the difference in build quality @10:10. At least the eMachine has a floppy drive. That was the no.1 complaint the market had with the iMac. It literally had no I/O other than the CD-ROM or network so literally everyone bought a USB drive. Regarding the hissing on the audio line out. I had a 1st gen mac mini back in the day and the hissing was an issue too. I had to buy a USB adaptor to plug my headphones into which cancelled the noise. So it may not be a shielding thing.

  • @TheColinputer
    @TheColinputer Жыл бұрын

    There was a pizza shop i used to go to a bunch that had one of these ontop of a drinks fridge being used as a TV. I remember it being there from about 2004 to 2009ish. I guess they bought it as a PC when it was new. Then once it got too slow just used the screen for a tv. They must of had it plugged into a set top box or just an old VCR to use a tuner.

  • @saxman112
    @saxman112 Жыл бұрын

    Finally a new video! Glad to see you do one on the eOne, especially considering that Clint from LGR did one on it too. Also, I knew you were going to have some moment you'd yell "Martha!" after you did that 10 years later transition and then transformed into old Ken, lol

  • @d.c.marsha9027
    @d.c.marsha9027 Жыл бұрын

    I owned several Mac clones back in the day, to be honest the PowerComputing clone was a better pc than the macs of its day. I kept that PowerComputing humming for years, upgraded memory, harddrive and processor. It got me into learning how to fix and repair pcs

  • @ericrosen6626
    @ericrosen6626 Жыл бұрын

    "Remember, in the 80s and 90s, you could have a computer in any color you want.... as long as it's beige" Someone should have told that to Silicon Graphics with their: Personal Iris (gray, 1988) Indigo (guess what color it was, 1991) Crimson (guess what color it was, 1992) Indigo2 (teal or purple, 1992) Indy (blue, 1993) O2 (blue, 1996)

  • @greggv8

    @greggv8

    Жыл бұрын

    Laptops were mostly not-beige by the late 90's. Silver, grey, and black were prominent. Micron/Micron PC/MPC spiced things up in silver and dark purple for a while before going black and silver on their rebadged and recolored versions of Samsung laptops.

  • @jeremykothe2847

    @jeremykothe2847

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but *you* couldn't have one :P

  • @ericrosen6626

    @ericrosen6626

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeremykothe2847 Well I did have access to Indy's and Indigo2's at school (1995-1999) and in the early aughts I bought a couple for personal use and then started buying lots of them that a friend and I would refurbish and resell. They were still beige boxes, but my favorite workstations from the era were the Sun SPARCstation IPX and IPC... they were like the size and shape of a lunchbox and opened like one too (though without a hinge). To fit the motherboard into such a small footprint, half was on the bottom and half was on the top :)

  • @fsfs555

    @fsfs555

    Жыл бұрын

    A Personal Iris 4D/20 with 14" monitor had a starting price of $13,500. A fully loaded model with 19" monitor would set you back $34k. In 1988. Comparatively, the high-end Mac IIfx was $12k around the same time, and the average B&W Mac (an SE/30) was $6500, while a IIci was about $8800. Average PC prices were between $2-6k. Which of these do you think 90% of people working outside of a UNIX-based graphic design department would be familiar with?

  • @jerrymcgeorge4117

    @jerrymcgeorge4117

    Жыл бұрын

    My ‘97 Compaq was black

  • @craigw.scribner6490
    @craigw.scribner6490 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks and I always enjoy them.

  • @arsenic1987
    @arsenic1987 Жыл бұрын

    I've gotta find an old CRT monitor just so I can degauss it from time to time. It's one of those things that just feels awesome. I remember this on my monitors growing up, and that it wouldn't fire again immediately. So it just got better the longer you waited. Had absolutely no idea what it "did", but I do remember how satisfying it was to watch the screen wobble and that sound it made.

  • @iPharaoh54
    @iPharaoh543 ай бұрын

    As a kid. I always wanted one of those iMacs. They looked so cool and it was all in one meaning it took up minimal space. I wanted it

  • @Cyber_Horse_Studios87
    @Cyber_Horse_Studios87 Жыл бұрын

    Finally after LGR’s review of this thing, we finally got the Computer Clan’s review!

  • @danw1955
    @danw1955 Жыл бұрын

    Hah, I still have an eMachine or 2 in my collection of computer junk. The later towers actually weren't too bad. I never saw an E1 until now though. Seems they included everything Apple *should have* put on the early iMac, but doing an almost direct copy of the design was probably not the best idea.😂 I also have one of those early iMacs, which surprisingly still boots up.😉

  • @z609gaming

    @z609gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    Emachines was still crummy sometimes. My mom bought a W3609 back in 06 with vista. Doesn’t sound bad until you realize it shipped with 512MB of Ram and a Celeron D 356. At least it was 64-bit?

  • @X150t
    @X150t Жыл бұрын

    Merry Christmas Ken!

  • @FMRG7009
    @FMRG7009 Жыл бұрын

    Never knew this computer existed! Thanks for informing us about this fake iMac Krazy Ken

  • @TravisWebb
    @TravisWebb Жыл бұрын

    I use to sell these for a living and Macs. And their call center was in the same town, so a LOT of their staff, bought from me and gave me insight. I could almost get them down to free with the rebates, coupons, and other items. Personally, at the time, I didn’t feel Apple case was that strong, but the argument that eMachines was terrible and Apple made a great case. I think the main thing at that time, was that eMachines, were assuming that Apple had set a standard, and the standard design shouldn’t be protected. Like IBM saying you can’t make a case a rectangle, and paint it beige. However, they didn’t actually argue that in court. I could talk for a few hours about these things. But, in the end they were garbage machines, with INSANE failure rates, so the world is probably better off that we had the experience and moved on.

  • @jrmarcus

    @jrmarcus

    Жыл бұрын

    I owned a couple of them and luckily, I never had any problems. They were cheap and just good enough to do what I needed, which were the only things that mattered to me back then.

  • @TravisWebb

    @TravisWebb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jrmarcus Lot's of people had no issues, about 70% ;) but as the guy that had to warranty them, we only see the bad ones, and with the numbers we sold, and that high of failure rate, it was sometimes2-3 a day. Almost for sure at least 1 every other day. But during that "gold rush" era, with the internet booming to the average user, we would sell 4 a day on average. The main failure was the modem, or the integrated sound cards. We never repaired he emachines, we just gave the person a new one, and sent back any. Too hard to work on. Honestly, just like the Apple DuoDock, if you never got on the internet with it, you had even higher odds of never having an issue. Because you would never encounter that buggy modem. I mean that was the good news, you got a computer for like 100 bucks and if it broke within a year, you just got a new one, took, less than 15 minutes to do the exchange. The bad news, we often had no way to rescue the last years worth of content on the HDD. I sold a number of these eOnes to a local guy who used them as internet machines in bars around town. The net was so new, people would get excited to try it at bars and this unibody build for the price was perfect. (Note, I had one of the normal ones for a while I gave my little siblings for homework, they had that thing for a good 5 years, it was fine. Just remembered that.)

  • @kid5042

    @kid5042

    Жыл бұрын

    I had mine from 16 years old to 23 years old never failed but yea it wasn’t the best machine

  • @FloridaMann123
    @FloridaMann1234 ай бұрын

    Robot Arena! I played that game so much when I was younger but forgot what it was called. Thank you for randomly unlocking that core memory.

  • @gcooper642
    @gcooper642 Жыл бұрын

    When the iMac came out my Mum was very confused because Immac was the name of a hair removal cream (its now called Veet. Maybe Apple sued them). She couldn't work out how these plastic things in the newspaper advert removed hair.

  • @thesetwinsaretwins
    @thesetwinsaretwins Жыл бұрын

    finally, a new video! it's been like 3 weeks I've been waiting :) tech is interesting pretty much even though I'm a kid.

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 Жыл бұрын

    I had an eMachine tower that I picked up used in the early 2000s. It had modest specs but it was reliable and I was able to do some upgrades. If I'd had access to an eMachines One I would have jumped on it in spite of the QC issues.

  • @Forfaxify
    @Forfaxify Жыл бұрын

    haha nice intro. I see myself checking out your video's more often so i think its time i subscribed :)

  • @SquirrelMonkeyCom
    @SquirrelMonkeyCom3 ай бұрын

    I love the TV-output/composite on the side. Or is it TV-input?

  • @robintst
    @robintst Жыл бұрын

    That startup also could have taken as long as it did if that's the original hard drive it came with, they do wear out over time. It likely didn't take that long back then and with a fresh Windows 98 install.

  • @o_o-_-8639
    @o_o-_-8639 Жыл бұрын

    lol, loved the Theoffice alike intro XD Nice vid overall bro, keep em doing!

  • @bluey-next777
    @bluey-next7774 ай бұрын

    10:46 S U S *5 seconds later* YOU'VE BEEN XSERVED (Bad joke)

  • @worst.username._ever
    @worst.username._ever Жыл бұрын

    My family had one of these. It was crap, but I wish we'd held on to it if it's valuable now.

  • @Monke_in_Space
    @Monke_in_Space Жыл бұрын

    Finally I have been so excited to see this

  • @jonavene12
    @jonavene12 Жыл бұрын

    8:22 "still loading. MARTHA!!" made me laugh.

  • @mlthmp
    @mlthmp Жыл бұрын

    I had an eOne.. it was actually a good machine at the time. Loved mine

  • @MikeFromDownUnder
    @MikeFromDownUnder Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this❗👍🤙

  • @super-gerald
    @super-gerald Жыл бұрын

    I remember when these were new. Even back then I thought it was a bit rich that Apple would object to someone copying someone else's design.

  • @VolkerHett
    @VolkerHett Жыл бұрын

    I remember these contraptions. Back then we cooperated with an interior designer specialized in offices. A typical PC setup from IBM, Fujitsu-Siemens, HP and so on wasn't cool enough and a real Mac couldn't run Windows. So they equipped every desk they sold with THIS and we had to support it. It was crap!

  • @teg24601
    @teg24601 Жыл бұрын

    IIRC, the Revision A iMacs actually shipped with a floppy pin pads on the PCB (along with the Mezzanine Slot), but revision B removed the pads.

  • @AlKaseltzer87
    @AlKaseltzer87 Жыл бұрын

    I have that etower you showed in the beginning of the video. It's all original for a few case screws and the power supply, thee keyboard, mouse and speakers are gone, it's still running Windows ME. My aunt bought it from a circuit city back in 1999 or 2000

  • @ElTurfStuff
    @ElTurfStuff Жыл бұрын

    You also have to turn off the memory check in BIOS. And the speakers were bloody awfull using that unit. They often just stopped working without warning.

  • @suijin25
    @suijin25 Жыл бұрын

    I had one of these. It was my first computer that connected to the internet. It was an aweful computer. I needed to get this thing services every few months, one of the only time I'm glad I took the extended warrenty. It finally completely died after a little over a year. Though I wish I held onto the keyboard and mouse.

  • @AidenRKrone
    @AidenRKrone Жыл бұрын

    One of the subsidiary companies of Daewood (S&T Motiv) designs and manufactures firearms, such as the Daewoo Telecom K7 and the S&T Motiv STC-16 Carbine.

  • @thomasburns1846
    @thomasburns1846 Жыл бұрын

    I have an almost like new E-One with the original keyboard and mouse. The hard drive finally failed earlier this year. Fortunately, I made an image of the hard drive when I opened up the computer to replace the CMOS battery a few years back. Since the computer is difficult to work on, I haven't had the motivation to replace the hard drive, yet.

  • @jasonlindsay5031
    @jasonlindsay5031 Жыл бұрын

    This is the first time KZread's algorithm has suggested one of your videos to me. I clicked 'subscribe' immediately after the degaussing bit.

  • @Firevine
    @Firevine2 ай бұрын

    I worked in the warehouse of my local Sears when the iMac came out, and MAN did those things sell. We'd get a pallet in, and they'd all be gone by the end of day.

  • @killermudmonkey
    @killermudmonkey Жыл бұрын

    We had one of these growing up, I remember playing Lego Loco for hours at a time on that thing.

  • @salty-9
    @salty-9 Жыл бұрын

    Ahhhh this takes me back.. to the days of my purple compaq presario...

  • @spongebot64
    @spongebot64 Жыл бұрын

    that shot of Robot Arena in the CD slot really got me nostalgic

  • @TheOriginalCollectorA1303
    @TheOriginalCollectorA1303 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! It has always been a “unique” machine, and even though it might not be the highest spec system, the large amount of ports does make it a cool All In One. “Wow, this new iMac can run Windows? And it’s Never Obsolete?? What a steal!” (After mail in rebate)

  • @AaronOfMpls

    @AaronOfMpls

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda ironic that a scammer replied to you, given some of Ken's scam debunking. (I reported it as spam.)

  • @TheOriginalCollectorA1303

    @TheOriginalCollectorA1303

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it is, I guess they tend to appear pretty often nowadays.

  • @Quidproquo07093
    @Quidproquo07093 Жыл бұрын

    I owned an E Machine desktop, upgraded every component over time, and it lasted for years. I currently use a 2010 Gateway Desktop w/ a Pentium i7, and a recent memory upgrade and SSD swap is keeping it alive 13 years later.

  • @princefluff08
    @princefluff08 Жыл бұрын

    would the computer still be perceived as similar if the eone ditched the transparent scheme for a more boring beige look (computer and all accessories)

  • @benjaminolson7206

    @benjaminolson7206

    Жыл бұрын

    Almost certainly not. In 2000 frosted transparent turquoise and white meant "Apple Product" and to a lesser extent "item meant to be compatible with Apple product", and Apple had spent millions in advertising to make the connection with the public. And frankly it's a fanciful enough color scheme to choose that it was fair to not begrudge Apple that as their signature tradedress. These days their signature colors seem to modulate between white and grey metallic, which would be much harder to win a case like this with. Emachines had a much stronger case for the teardrop design being simply a utilitarian way for an all in one desktop to be made at the time, but the colors were damning.

  • @princefluff08

    @princefluff08

    Жыл бұрын

    @@benjaminolson7206 yeah about what I suspected

  • @EyeCanShootFL
    @EyeCanShootFL Жыл бұрын

    BruH! We need more videos please. lol... This is taking way to long and I have wathed everyone of your videos I found interesting. :)

  • @neerjachopra1139
    @neerjachopra1139 Жыл бұрын

    1:00 Wait... LGR?! I used to watch his videos a while back, and it kinda surprised me that you're using his clip for reference... really, that clip gave me nostalgia...

  • @antonisautos8704
    @antonisautos8704 Жыл бұрын

    I have an eMachines PC. With an AMD athlon ii x2 255.. came with a GeForce 6150SE. Removed it from its case. Installed it in a atx compliant server chassis. Upgraded it to 8 GB DDR2, Gave it a gtx 750Ti and a PCI to 1Gbps lan adapter and a pcie to usb 3.0 internal and USB 3.0 A card. It runs windows 10 pretty well. It's also set up to run Linux Mint. I can boot into either.

  • @serhiirudenko6183
    @serhiirudenko6183 Жыл бұрын

    My first laptop was eMachines e725. Pretty fine laptop at the time. And it still works, hust hard driver has died some time ago.

  • @kevinroulette
    @kevinroulette10 ай бұрын

    I had a I Mac when the first came out . My wife worked in advertising and they used Mac. I loved that thing . Had a green one .

  • @B.D.F.
    @B.D.F. Жыл бұрын

    2:45 Degaussing CRTs might be my favourite part of CRTs, and I’m always disappointed when it’s only a small degaussing because I just did it a few minutes ago.

  • @steelsofliquid
    @steelsofliquid Жыл бұрын

    Just wait until the Gateway Astro, which kinda looked like an old Power Mac

  • @DFX4509B

    @DFX4509B

    Жыл бұрын

    Or the Compaq Presario CDS 500 series which looks nearly exactly like a PM5K-series all-in-one.

  • @YouStEeLz
    @YouStEeLz Жыл бұрын

    The squeeling noise is a classic sign of drying caps in the PSU, easy fix, and probably wasn’t that probounced when new ;)

  • @vwbug1975
    @vwbug197510 ай бұрын

    I always wanted one of these, but never got around to buying one when they were new.

  • @luisarturoorduna2098
    @luisarturoorduna209811 ай бұрын

    I remember back in the day when i was in the PC selling business we got invited to a provider's "new products showcase" event (it was a free dinner, so i went, of course).. and there they presented this PC... when the person doing the p`resentation asked if we had questions i said something like... "so... this is a Celeron PC that can't be seriously upgraded, won't fit a graphics card, has a very limited choice of compatible motherboards, has the monitor embedded in the case (so i can't use on or the other for future builds) ... and it's a Celeron... basically all the disadvantages of the Imac on a poor performance PC that is more expensive than the mid-range ones i'm already assembling... sorry but ¿Who's buying that?" Apparently not many, it lasted very little on the catalog.

  • @theoldpcguy
    @theoldpcguy Жыл бұрын

    Hmm, I may still have a mouse for one of those. I used to build PCs back then and purchased some emachines surplus stuff from a wholesale house. If I find it I'll drop you a note.

  • @Kwyjor
    @Kwyjor9 ай бұрын

    There's almost 800 comments, so someone's pointed out that a lengthy Win9x startup time may be the result of having no active network cable connected, right? Plug in a suitable network cable (or disable the onboard NIC in Device Manager) and I reckon that long startup delay will go away.

  • @michaelelsy2209
    @michaelelsy2209 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't it amazing how they both look like a portable 📺 of that time.

  • @TheMrGamma195
    @TheMrGamma195 Жыл бұрын

    i remember this computer we had one in one of the computer rooms in my school in the early 2000s

  • @wamrainc176
    @wamrainc1763 ай бұрын

    9:43 lmfao it sound like a boiling tea kettle

  • @felinehermetica
    @felinehermeticaКүн бұрын

    My grandmother had an emachine. I still remember the way the power button felt. 😁

  • @theoldoneiscoming8242
    @theoldoneiscoming82422 ай бұрын

    I was thinking "Man that iMac looks familiar!". And then I saw the disc mouse. Freaking intermediate school AR tests and computer class. I'd repressed that memory, but it's sure back now.

  • @annagramgaming8934
    @annagramgaming8934 Жыл бұрын

    The "floppy drive pinout on the original iMac motherboard" story I heard went like this: The iMac was developed hastily from a Powerbook G3 motherboard, and they didn't remove the pinout in the first generation. I can't find any reference for this story, but it does seem plausible.

  • @austinmerath9733
    @austinmerath9733 Жыл бұрын

    Serious question - did you happen to have restore disks for the eOne? My friend has one of these but needs to reinstall the OS and the drivers are non-existent online. Please let me know if you could help!!

  • @momjyandavit
    @momjyandavit Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god I saw a mini imac g3 on the shelf behind, near the iphone g2 parts!

  • @Ventrux
    @Ventrux Жыл бұрын

    Hey, you know when this computer came out I was selling computers, and this thing was fiery competence in the eyes of customers, and even after the lawsuit it keep seeling in Mexico for a few years.

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic Жыл бұрын

    I remember e machines well in the stores. Clint of LGR also did a video on this. Very cool emachine

  • @Killerspieler0815
    @Killerspieler0815 Жыл бұрын

    @Computer Clan - The sound squeeling seems to be a result of is no sufficiant RF shielding (from tube monitor + power supply) & (amplifer) power filtering for the sound

  • @porkfang
    @porkfang4 ай бұрын

    I loved my old e-machine! Mine was ok for 2004 ish.....

  • @Team974
    @Team974 Жыл бұрын

    Upgrade it! I want to see how much you can improve it.

  • @RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
    @RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao Жыл бұрын

    I have both machines, and there really are some similar things between the two, which would be subject to a lawsuit, but not to the point of removing the machine from the market. Apple has always been a company with dishonest competitiveness tactics, they sued any and all manufacturers that dared to release an all-in-one computer. Compaq already had all-in-one computers with a 13 or 14-inch display since 1994, for example. Apple wanted to pull it out of the market, simply because the E-one was a better machine than theirs. In technical specs, the 233mhz imac was as fast as a pentium 2 ~350mhz, but what about games? At that time, the computer was basically used for 3 things: Editing documents, surfing the internet for a few hours at low speed, and GAMES. E-one had a mediocre graphics solution for hardcore gamers, but this ATI model was just perfect for the overwhelming majority of games released until then, the biggest benefit was the compatibility with Windows 98 and MSDOS, it had the video capture card , which allowed you to connect a VCR or video game directly to it. If a father or mother wanted to buy a computer and a TV to put in their child's room, this machine won by leaps and bounds. It also had some cute details, like the ability to play CDs even with the machine turned off, there was a small LCD display in front of it to select tracks, as well as a discman. It also had an integrated floppy drive, its screen gave the impression of being bigger. I work restoring this kind of thing, I have a lot of technical knowledge, and looking at it 20 years later, I can see how it was superior to an iMac: The tube and flyback DO NOT usually fail on these models, you can easily find them with a factory flyback, which doesn't even make pops! The tube is not blurred (a sign of wear on the tube barrel), I have never found one that had something missing on the motherboard (even its capacitors resist well. The casing, even after so many years, still has the same color as when it was new . The imacs, both the 98 and the 2001, are easy to present problems with flyback (mainly because jobs had the stupid idea to remove the fan in the second revision), the image tube after 20 years is already deteriorated and difficult to use 1024x768 with clarity, their cd drive usually fails, and they use a proprietary type , the speakers of iMacs tend to crack and break, and they turn yellow, lose their color (especially the blue ones, which end up turning green). I'm not a fanboy, I love them both, but facts are facts.

  • @DRGamingYT0
    @DRGamingYT0 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid. the first time i saw the eone, i thought it was a mac!

  • @producerevan88
    @producerevan88 Жыл бұрын

    I'm still not a huge fan of the verdict against emachines... Sure it looked close, but it wasn't really a copy once you get to the details, and let's be fair... Most computers look nearly identical, especially at the time. I don't think you saw HP suing dell for their beige boxes.... It's all a bit sad

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