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If you're not growing on test and dbol, you get fake gear
@minik1510
Ай бұрын
@@BULD0SISeveryone grows on dbol test
@yeeeaaahmayneee3808
Ай бұрын
@@minik1510not true,some people don’t respond to steroids
@Jesse-df9fz
Ай бұрын
@Tailionis lmao how old are you? You haven't maxed out at 185 you just aren't training, sleeping and eating enough.
@ancientideas
Ай бұрын
Genetics play a huge part. I'm just on test and growing like crazy but my friend is on everything under the sun and I still lift more than him. He doesn't get much muscle mostly just fat..@Jesse-df9fz
@robertm.4193
Ай бұрын
@@Tailionis Sounds like you need more gear
If your not growing on test and dbol your not eating enough most likely.
@jd9119
Ай бұрын
This is probably one of the most truthful comments on this video. I see so many pencil necks that think they'll get to 250lbs just by upping their gear dosage. You've got to eat like you're 250lbs if you want to be 250lbs.
Alan Ritchson approved this message
@FatManJackson
Ай бұрын
Alan Ritchson is a tren addict.
Could we get a look on the 2024 up to date hair loss prevention video, thankyou love the vids :)
Hey Derek! Could you do a vídeo on Testosterol 250 and biosterol please? I d like to know if they are a good supplement for me to take! Thank you!
Anyone else depressed or is it just me?
@kylerBD
Ай бұрын
Right here bro
@jnorth870
Ай бұрын
Go for zone 2 jog if you don't. Helps.
@LunarVamp
Ай бұрын
Majorly ☺️
@DizzyCarr
Ай бұрын
It’s gone be alright bros. Gods got everything in control 👊💪
@heavywater6350
Ай бұрын
Bro yeah, and my social anxiety just came back in full force after years of no issues. Wtf is this year.
I love Stan's zebra stripe belt from Flex magazine photo shoots days
Well, it might be over bros. Derek might just be a clip channel now
@echalvorson
Ай бұрын
Oh man if you could read you’d be very upset right now. He uploaded the entire 2hr video of this days ago.
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
If he only uploaded the full video, people would complain that there were no clips Take the whining elsewhere
@rjharrold2907
Ай бұрын
It is a pretty nice addition imo. Good easily accessible key points
@echalvorson
Ай бұрын
@@discipleofdagon8195 Derek has uploaded 6 regular longer videos in the last 7 days what in the fk are you talking about
@baektpotato
Ай бұрын
Marek is paying real well.
This was my cycle as a high school senior in 01’. What a time that was
Back in the late 90's early 00's the old Organon Sust 250 with Dbol was the choice of every collage bro looking to get big lol. Then you graduate to the Sust 250, Deca, Dbol stacks. Everyone walked around looking puffy like the Micheline man lol.
I would like to get advice on balancing my hormones for longevity but I do not use any social media. Do you have another way to connect?
@bigshitter9872
Ай бұрын
Instagram
Hoping to see the full video soon, and the sauna of coarse! Just glad Derek is back, feels like it's been ages.
tought this was gona be something els then it was. turns out this shows how ive always been right. love to see it
Anyone who is serious about gaining lean tissue and sculpting a muscular, aesthetic physique needs to include a daily regimen of the divine protein shake.
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
I prefer being fat and having skinny guys drink my divine protein shake
@RhetoricalMuse
Ай бұрын
Creatinetosterone
@yashgupta-jk4xq
Ай бұрын
The prestigious Markus Ruhl thunfisch protein shake
Very true. Young guys taking 5 different compounds as their first cycle, it’s just not needed. I run TRT at anywhere from 100-125mg/wk and I still continue to get stronger week on week, bloods almost perfect. More isn’t always better!
@user96RR
Ай бұрын
250 - 300mg / week is the best first cycle for serious gains if you have a good base. People running 500mg as their first cycle seems wild to me...
@the_fitness_doc
Ай бұрын
@@user96RR I know right. 500mg cookie cutter protocols are insane.
@robertm.4193
Ай бұрын
@@user96RR Half a gram of gear is a lot
@um4668
Ай бұрын
Well of course more is better up until a certain point. They're drugs and drugs work
@robertm.4193
Ай бұрын
@@um4668 “they’re drugs and drugs work” is my new favorite quote
I’ve been thinking about taking testosterone enanthate because I’m finding it difficult to build muscle naturally. Just one cycle at 250mg a week for 10 weeks. If anyone has advice on what to do and what not to do?
More Plates More Dates, I love your channel so much, I just had to subscribe!
We need a new video of Andrey Smaev . Huge transformation
Mr delts i need u to get me on this program asap
I have very good genetics and my first cycle was only 450 mg of Test per week. I gained 20 lbs of lean tissue (and actually got leaner on Test). I had a friend who did the same 450 mg/week and grew only 5 lbs. Genetics for gear response matter just as much as actual muscle insertions do, because if you need to take grams of gear to grow 10+ lbs, bodybuilding is NOT the sport for you. You’ll end up killing your organs with sides and not get any of the benefits. I know a lot of these influencers are blasting crazy doses that probably exceed many IFBB pro’s, and the sides you don’t even see. Genetics for responding to gear, genetics for clearing waste and inflammation from gear, genetics matter enormously and steroids are not going to work for everyone.
@Eric42RandomVideos
Ай бұрын
Growing is about how much you eat not how much you’re on
@charliebartlett5768
Ай бұрын
@@Eric42RandomVideossuch a dumb response lol
@neal520
Ай бұрын
That’s called water retention
@MightyStokefan
Ай бұрын
Was the other guy eating and training as good though?
@Jimminityjabooboo
Ай бұрын
@@MightyStokefan we trained everyday and followed the same meal plan, same height, I was 195 and he was 190 at start of cycle
Oddly enough.. I just received just that ✌🏼 Life begins at 500mg's!😂
restock gorilla mode energy please
Do the podcasts in the sauna!
Hats of the brother. Pulling 780+ is no small feat without a belt. Around the same time at 225-230 lbs I got 620 for a single & later 605 x 5 both with no belt and no straps. I could not afford gear. I was around a lot of powerlifters (1990s mostly) & 750mg of test was considered a crap ton unless you were a 300lb guy but most d-bol doses were around 30-40 mg/day and guys would use deca, EQ, and not much else. Maybe some Anadrol but d-bol was far and wide much more well tolerated.
Isnt 2cc 2000mg not 500mg?
I love the new gorilla mode pre workout formula. An extra gram of L citrulline and addition of sodium
Is this sticky paws studio ?
the thumb looked like Mark Coleman lol
Can anyone get it AU
Are you boxing tyler one?
If you’re not growing from consistent MPMD then you’re not ready for PEDs.
People just think more is better, as rich said you should „work for your CCs“ meaning if you dont have a 300-350mg test cycle behind you, dont even think about adding anything in or go over half a gram
Hes not telling the whole story! What about the hgh and insulin???
100%, if you can’t eat the amount of food required or your body doesn’t react well to drugs, I would think of another sport.
Genetics and always challenging yourself to lift more than your capable of. A good spotter and training partner can help more than drugs.
My first ever cycle I gained like 25lbs and went from 285 bench to 385 bench in about 4 weeks.
Derek why is Stan’s face so red? Is that a good thing?
@ellegi7977
Ай бұрын
High blood pressure it's a great thing!
@deltalima6703
Ай бұрын
Better than no blood pressure
@trulaila8560
Ай бұрын
@@deltalima6703 no argument there
@ZippyLikesZippers
Ай бұрын
Pale white guy living in Vegas doesn't help much with the redness. He's probably burnt 90% of the year.
@supaman321123
Ай бұрын
Probably a sun burn
Deca and dbol, breakfast of champions
Well I gained like 30lbs just on 10mg a day of rad 140 for 2 months. Would love to see what test would do
I was growing like 10 to 13 lbs each cycle but I really started to grow quality when I activated the cheat mode on with them (gh)
500mg test E 500 deca 50 Dbol = 35lbs of beef
@joelerk6298
13 күн бұрын
And gyno
I’m gaining consistently on just 100mg a week. Free and total well above normal range. I can’t image 500 a week
@RhetoricalMuse
Ай бұрын
Blood pressure goes up signifincantly. I hated that feeling. I could do a bro-split twice a week and recover. Calories were up by 800 per day! Not worth it though. Coming off was hell.
@WalterBernard-vm1re
Ай бұрын
Pictures or you’re lying
@WalterBernard-vm1re
Ай бұрын
God people are ridiculous. 500 is a baby dose. Anyone at these shows with any appreciable muscle is taking far more.
@RhetoricalMuse
Ай бұрын
@@WalterBernard-vm1re For competitors, I agree - they are on more than just 500 test. Even as a base, they are taking other substances with it. 500 is no baby dose however. It puts serum test in the mutiple thousands.
Stan’s a methodically safe scientific mentor for everyone, naturals, natural advanced athletes, & enhanced athletes. He’ll keep you safe to the very best of his knowledge. He understands the appropriate training regimen, nutritional demands, medical & supplemental biological applicabilities. Very rational coach & athletic leaders in my opinion.
As I've said before, my max bench press went up with +30 kg in 40 days, during my 1st cycle of just 5 mg of dbol per day. No test, nothing else. And I did have 3 years of gym experience before that, to save you the questions.
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
"3 years of gym experience" is meaningless. Plenty of people go to the gym for 3 years to use the elliptical or do quarter reps on incline dumbbell bench with 20lb dumbbells. And we already know dudes who take gear will grow even if they just sit around and do nothing (which is why they're so great for wasting diseases) so being explicit with your experience still would prove nothing
@ConnoisseurOfExistence
Ай бұрын
@@humanspecieseradicationmedia Here we go again... Am I such an outlier, that people can't believe it... Buddy, I've been trying my 1 rep max since my first day at the gym. Bench press used to be my favorite exercise. Before I started the dbol, I had a plateau for 2 months at 105 kg on the bench press and I couldn't lift more. Before those 2 months I was progressing nicely. That was my 2 plateau ever, before that I stuck for a while at 90 kg (bench). So right during this plateau I started taking just 5 mg of dbol per day. My bench press started increasing with 5 kg every week, I was doing 1 rep maxes every time. Exactly on the 40th day I benched 135 kg.
@jd9119
Ай бұрын
Where were you getting 5mg pills from? I don't recall ever seeing dosages that small. Pill cutters aren't that accurate.
@ConnoisseurOfExistence
Ай бұрын
@@jd9119 I bought them straight from the pharmacy, back in 2003 in Bulgaria. They were produced straight from the biggest pharma company - Balkanpharma (later bought by Actavis). The name of the drug was Bionabol.
28 M, Had mid to low free test with mid total test (had every symptom of low test though). Doc put me on HCG. Was on for 4 months and felt great. Test came back at the higher end of normal but nothing abnormal. 6 months in I develoved hypertension (145/90) with odd spells of light headedness. Lowered my dose over time but regardless the hypertension persisted, my normal is (130/75). Ended up blacking out one day while walking with a heart rate of 155. My heart rate before would never go above 110. Was tested with high RBC, hemoglobin, and hematocrit. Stopped cold turkey. Felt like death for a month as my body got use to not having artificial LH. Im on month 3 now without and I still feel light headed when I walk for extended periods, my left side of chest feels of slight fullness, my strength is gone, my motivation is gone, my libito is non existent, no morning wood, the brain fog is almost unbearable, ext. I am not able to work or do much of anything. I've done 4 extensive blood test since and even a heart echo scan and everything is perfectly normal. Why would my body react so crazy to a moderate dose of HCG. My doc said these things take time to leave the body and that it will probably be another 3 months until I feel 100%. PS my estrgoen and cortisol are good.
@GG-wg1yh
Ай бұрын
Dude literally wasting your time with HCG. Just start TRT. That also sounds like an effect of something else. Regardless, TRT will be way better.
@engineeredtruths8935
Ай бұрын
@@GG-wg1yhlol what? HCG monotherapy is valid treatment for low t just not for long time tbh. You might be kind of right but maybe not for the reasons you think
@GG-wg1yh
Ай бұрын
@@engineeredtruths8935 If you're going to take a compound that's going to alter your hormones, you might as well take one that'll benefit you more than not. Trt would benefit him much more, but like I said I think there's something else going with those sort of symptoms. I mean the guy didn't post anything about his weight. Didn't post anything about his activity, his diet. No idea. But trt would be a much more better option overall instead of just going solo HCG because why are you even taking that if your main concern isn't fertility from TRT
@wt8213
Ай бұрын
@@GG-wg1yh The only other medical issue I have is hypothyroidism which I have been on synthroid for 15+ years without issue (with some lingering symtoms like anyone with thyorid issues). I feel like I'm going crazy trying to find a solution to my problem. I felt mundane before HCG then during It felt like a literal weight was lifted off my back. All my aches and pains went away, my stamina was great, so much mental clerity, enthusiasm for life, ext. As silly as it sounds I felt normal for the first time in my life. Now I feel worse then when I started. But the side effects of hypertension and heart palputations were the worst things I'd ever experienced in my life. And I'm just now starting to not feel those effects as they lingered for over a month after stopping. HCG is good since if you come off of it though its hellish you'll rebound as I have. With TRT its extremely likely that I would not rebound if I ever came off. HCG and TRT create the same thing so I would only assume I would have the same issues on TRT. Though HCG converts to estrgen way more then TRT. I've kept a very close eye on my estrogen and it was high naturally but never got out of hand as I was using Anestrozole during my usage.
@Bigballs017
Ай бұрын
Did you get the Covid vaccine or booster?
A lot of discipline with a little amount of gear goes a long way.
We miss the sauna dude
Eat sleep and train 💪💪💪💪
It is true tho!!
I was 59kg got on testosterone and went to 90 kg in 8 week
Used test 500 at 19 starting shoulder press 50kg went all the way up to 130kg not bad. Not fake shit then
I thought he said test and tbol
I bet the Vertical Diet would help you grow
I grew huge and strong on Test 200mg and Deca 150mg week.
@70two41five
Ай бұрын
That’s a smart, safe amount to gain size and strength with likely no side effects
And if you can’t get drunk off of 1 beer, no amount of beer can get you drunk. What kind of stupid ass logic is this.
The fuck is cc?
@RhetoricalMuse
Ай бұрын
Google it!
I’m 6’2 with a small frame and did 400mg test and 40mg of DBOL and can’t get past 210lbs
@Kyle111
Ай бұрын
Calories?
@flipnote2064
Ай бұрын
@@Kyle111 throwing up while driving to the gym
@DiogenesOfCa
Ай бұрын
I am 6'1 and was super skinny, I got up to 220 pounds and under 10% body fat all natty. Got to put the work in.
@jacobramirez4894
Ай бұрын
@@DiogenesOfCado u have pics or vids
@Kyle111
Ай бұрын
@@flipnote2064 gotta keep it down
Bro is lying. No way he took 500 test and 20mg nd was 300lbs😂
@racebannon7209
Ай бұрын
Yes you can. More is not better.
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
I take 0 test and 0mg nd and I'm 370 so why do you think he couldn't do 300 with gear?
@juniourkalegga6247
Ай бұрын
@@humanspecieseradicationmedia because he was single digit bodyfat%. 300lbs shredded. Impossible
@juniourkalegga6247
Ай бұрын
@@racebannon7209 more is not better to a certain degree. Most pros r taking a gram of test
@jd9119
Ай бұрын
@@humanspecieseradicationmedia You probably should go on a diet, if you want to live to be an old man. Regardless of if it's fat or muscle, being 370lbs is hard on the heart
I don’t understand how people especially those I under 30 y/o can run a test cycle close to 500mg a week…first cycle at 25 i tried only 150mg a week of test and the side effects are so not worth it for me…having very high testosterone naturally only taking that much got me feeling irritated, flushed face and agressive and anxiety was up the roof! Gear is Not for me!
I don't have that good genetic as natural but I morph with 240mg of test a week.
@Supersleuth0987
Ай бұрын
Maybe you had low Natural levels?
@Mylovelyhus
Ай бұрын
@@Supersleuth0987 some people utilize synthetic hormone better than others
Nothing new Dam Duchane use to say if you can't grown on deca and dbol ur not going to . I will defienty say he drugs back in the 70s and 80s were cleaner and full strength
Yeh but tren feels so good to run haha
I just found gorilla mode pre workout at dicks sporting goods in schererville indiana. I bought bomsicle and mouth watering watermelon. I hope they keep these in stock so I don't have to order them online anymore.
I'm growing on test and tren... yep, sure am......
Test and dbol = gyno
I don't know how many of you need to hear this, but more plates don't equal more dates. I think we need to change the narrative here because a lot of women are not into huge body builders. There's a point in your gains where you just become more intimidating to people. Most women will take the funny fat guy before they take the roided out shredded dude who's gonna punch a hole in the wall because they didn't get his chipotle order right
To all the people here saying they’re depressed. Don’t be. These guys are so full of shit it makes me want to rip my hair out. Where else do we say what they’re saying? We don’t tell people “if you can’t ace the MCAT on your first try, you’ll probably never be a doctor.” If you can get As in law school without trying, you don’t have the genetics to be a lawyer. What frigging bs. If it’s truly your dream, ANYONE can build a great physique, just like how anyone can be a doctor, lawyer, entrepreneur.
@WalterBernard-vm1re
Ай бұрын
In fact I find it’s usually the opposite, it’s the people who don’t have the “genetics” to ace school or their career without trying that build the discipline to be the best it.
Take notes, Ryan Garcia
I get great gains on only trt doses, if you don’t respond to 2cc of test and 20mg of dbol, something is wrong with your training, nutrition and lifestyle
@RhetoricalMuse
Ай бұрын
Or genetics.
@jd9119
Ай бұрын
TRT does only would bring you to what you would've had naturally, if you weren't suffering from low testosterone. 300mg of test per week is NOT TRT.
Or maybe don’t take any of it
when this guy saying he was taking 20mg D-bol and I am half his weight or even more I am 56kg and take 30-mg, like what 😂
@neal520
Ай бұрын
That’s what weighed when I was 12
@mattwilson9293
Ай бұрын
You should absolutely not be taking gear at that weight. There's almost no way to justify it, unless you have terminal cancer and it's your dying wish
@Christopher-ko9op
Ай бұрын
56kg!? What are you like 4 foot 11? My girlfriend's mum who has vascular dementia, the appetite of a tardigrade and is about 5 foot 3 is heavier, not by much but heavier.
@Christopher-ko9op
Ай бұрын
@@mattwilson9293at 56kg, I wouldn't rule it out! That's cancer weight. I really hope it's not the case.
@Frag_Star
Ай бұрын
You all are right but I have a very hectic life, I take a lot of stimulants like Adderall, Modafinil, and benzodiazepines Xanax. As a result, I barely sleep, I only eat once a day, and even that is not a heavy meal. On the other hand, I like going to the gym very much, and I have been going for more than a decade, I am quite strong for my weight and body structure, and Dianabol has helped me almost double my strength and lifting power. I only take d-bol orally for lets say 2-3 weeks, without injecting test. Then I stop using it for 2 weeks. On and off. So far, what I have learned is that its not worth taking steroids unless you want to become serious or professional in bodybuilding or you have any type of genetic issue or illness that would need to be addressed with steroids. I just have been taking d-bol more for my own curiosity, and even d-bol alone increases your strength sometimes up to 30-50%, it quickens the recovery time for like a 100%, your voice does project more, it sounds like a yell in a positive way haha, you start to gain like brute force and stamina, and you work the sets very quickly with significant more weight. I was combining DMAA+DMHA Pre Workouts like Crack the Undead King, Daily regular Creatine intake, then 30mg of d-bol, together with Modafinil or Phenylpiracetam and some Xanax to just not implode lol. Otherwise i consume Black Seed Oil, dark chocolate, acv, good amounts of Vitamin D and K2, Magnesium, Tribulus, B-Complex, moringa powder etc. My main problems are lack of quality sleep or no sleep at all, eating too little; therefore I always have had problems gaining weight. I appreciate your comments guys.
if your not growing then get new trainer or reevaluate what you doing wrong . seems this person not patience enough to focus he want fast results over night with gears, which i call crackhead users!
@RhetoricalMuse
Ай бұрын
Some people really do have poor hypertophy genetics. No matter what they do, they can only put on 10lbs or so.
@echdan1
Ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalMuse that's true ! because natural people mindset is to rest/recovery few days to restart chest an arms day again. this is why natural don't see results but gaining weight ... roids can rest many days they want still seeing results just by doing partial reps .
I heard mens junk gets all shrunk and shrivled up. That would cause depression!
Compete bollocks, complete and absolute bollocks
Bullhonkey. Years of test and whatever the hell else, nothing. At all. Hopped on tren, got to where I should've been after all those years.
@barney2159
Ай бұрын
Fucking true. Had a friend who did 2 cycles with test and winstrol, made pathetic gains for the doses he took. Switched a few compounds (tren as well) and after some trial and error he ballooned and gained some solid 30 pounds of muscle in less than 2 years.
@MMA-CLIPS2
Ай бұрын
@@barney2159 Then what happened after that? Deflated? Aged??
@neal520
Ай бұрын
You mean you weren’t disciplined with diet and training and got no results so you took the most extreme drug and got moderate results
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
Translation: You got fake test, but then switched to "tren" that was actually just test, and then got the gains you woulda got if you had real test the first time
@Agnes135
Ай бұрын
@@humanspecieseradicationmedia Test is rarely faked
So has anyone herd Ryan Garcia is innocence from peds . Supplement contamination . Ryan Garcia is here to stay.
I'll never forget hitting up my buddy for the first time who got me into this world. I told him I would run a cycle just to try it "once". Me smiled ear to ear and said there is no "once". I enjoyed taking my pump cover off and being one of the larger younger guys in the gym. This makes me want to stick a needle in the ol' glute lol
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
What a depressing story
300 pounds on that amount of gear. Stop with the bullshit. They all lie about their usage.
@jd9119
Ай бұрын
I don't know if they're lying or if they're mistaking how much they took when they started. The 1990s were a long time ago and he admits to taking dosages a hell of a lot higher later in his career.
@jd9119
Ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalMuse The main point he was making (at the expense of being accurate with the dosing) is the fact that people today because of how easy it is to get gear act as it's a substitute for a diet. Whether you're on gear or not, you won't grow if you're not eating enough food.
You are not growing fooooood , you are not growing you are over training , drugs are a last resort I did cycles working out 6 days a week hardly grew now I work out three days a week on trt eat properly and keep growing slowly witch means muscle not fat
Third! 😂
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😂 get bigger HAIR line GETS waay longer 🤔 not worth it gentleman
I took test during puberty and my penis is huge now, it's sad though because every girl I get with can't handle it and leave me. At least I am lifting good numbers
@humanspecieseradicationmedia
Ай бұрын
Cool story bro
@davidcochrane219
Ай бұрын
Buddy exogenous testosterone doesn't make your dick huge no matter when you take it, that's a genetically determined thing
@hanskazan7403
Ай бұрын
No one cares dude...
@BrianTheLog
Ай бұрын
@@hanskazan7403 you replied so you care
Liar
Jesus im on 1M to get me from 200 to 450 i cant imagen being healthy and doing 1m ONTOP of being healthy. tst