I think you're right. I think he needs hours on the table just feeling, like you suggested. It needs to become fluid and instinctual. Training cupping, pronation and rise are useless if you don't understand how they interact and when to apply each.

@CyrillicTM

14 күн бұрын

strength is strength

@Tasmanaut

14 күн бұрын

@@CyrillicTM not if you can't use it efficiently vs someone with similar strength but can. That's the point. Brian might blow through weaker guys but anyone his own level, until he learns to be efficient and fluid in his movements, it won't look good. Think Larry Wheels.

@scottfujimoto8628

14 күн бұрын

If you watch the video with Devon, Brian has no illusion of just being able to blow through everyone because of his strength. He already knows that there is a lot of technique involved and it will take years for him to be competitive.

He needs to get with bob brown he lives fairly close to brian

A big guy training a big guy, while a normal guy coaching a big guy and a average guy commenting. Devon Larratt (6.5ft) training Brian Shaw(6.8ft), while Ryan Bowen (6.1ft) coaches Brian Shaw (6.8ft) and a average guy (5.9ft) commenting.

What brian would need is what leonidas has with kevin wolf as a coach. A relatively strong armwrestler who can leave the ego at the door and just train on the table with brian twice a week for a few months. The floating style training you mention is surely good, pinning motions are also important to just get a feel for it

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Your video with Larry where you were discovering efficiencies was great. I'm still checking it out from time to time. Something like that would be awesome for Brian too, 100%

Were lucky Derek's coaching him

Think Ryan would make an excellent coach. He has a deep knowledge of arm wrestling techniques, passion for the sport, and excellent communication/teaching skills. Would be a very good collaboration for both!

well said!

good general advice for all new arm wrestlers

Valuable insight brother. Time for another collaboration!

I wish you were his coach! That would be great.

We gotta get Brian to watch this vid fellas!

Looks like beeing so tall brian has difficult to go all the way down with the body when he pins. He always go with a bit of side pressure/press in the end

@hungandfaded815

14 күн бұрын

I mean he just needs to learn how to squat down as he pulls backwards. It’s really not that hard. Vitaly can do it no problem. I think he just feels he’s strongest going sideways because he’s never really faced a opponent stronger than him. He will learn very quickly that he can’t do that with top guys

@yozkopf3000

14 күн бұрын

I saw that as well. Of course he is physcally able to drop down, but as far as I saw he just never does. But he has to for a proper top roll.

10%? Let him go 25% amigo.

I think the idea is good’ish but his tolerance for lactic acid build up - is on a massive curve. It’s also odd to think you’d lose to ugly armwrestling from his power alone. What is happening right now, including you creating this video, is over coaching. This is similar to Larry Wheels. The difference here is he is limiting access to various coaching. I think it’s wise for him to stick with the tutelage of large framed coaches instead of teaching concepts. Because it takes one to know one.

As a strongman with a world-class grip who came into AW in my 40s like Brian, I 100% agree, strength is a kind of a curse to your learning. Brian needs less pulley work, no hard pulls and more structured hours across the table with skilled training partner(s). Like dozens and dozens of hours to start for a base. IMHO.

@hungandfaded815

14 күн бұрын

Ya also the advise Devon was giving him wasn’t really all that good in my opinion. He never focused on trying to get him to be fluid with his movements, he just let him be stiff and robotic. Like when he was teaching him a toproll, Brian never really pronated and pulled backwards, he was pulling kinda cupping high a little and just going sideways. And then Devon’s goes “ that’s great, awesome job” 😂😂😂 like Devon that was not great that was actually horrible. Don’t tell him he’s doing great when he’s not, no he’s gonna think that’s the correct way🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ crazy how good Devon is at armwrestling, but can’t understand how to teach someone. Like brother how do you not see he’s not doing it right, when you yourself know how to do it right🤦‍♂️ crazy

The steaming eggs thing might be one of the most effective things for newbies.

Crushing grip… cup… shoulder roll press….

It all comes down to the #Vectors

Spot on Ryan, spot on!

as a coach, I work on beginners with just fundamentals and I train them 90% of the way and allow that 10% to figure it out. when they get the basics then we work on one thing at a time based on their strengths I don't like what people like Derek does and break down every movement because it's very confusing. most of my guys do very well and I also use a lot of your styles of training as they work really well. it's so easy to overwhelm a beginner and it shouldn't be that way.

Bryan’s not going to skim you tube looking for trainers randomly, you’d be best going on his arm wrestling videos as he’s most likely going to possibly see you there and leave a link on a video like this . Curse of strength is real i could see him struggling to fully do what Larratt wanted but it was a first training session he’s still gorilla everything and his one problem I saw was doing the techniques slow instead of powering through them with inconsistent motion body measurements but that could be bc he was amped up ? Idk .

whom do you think right now he could beat at the highest level? Could he beat Khalid, Larry Wheels, School Boy, Chance Shaw?

you need to meet him and train with him.

I sort of feel like ryan is coming at this from experience with larry wheels. Which is different because strongman and powerlifing and body building is different. Brian learned efficiencys to win strongman for 2 decades.

Makes sense

So is Devon larrat not good enough as a teacher? Because the champ is teaching him. Guess what Brian won't see this.

KZread algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... i just talked with Derek Smith, he's working with him right now youtube.com/@awderek new content coming out soon, i like what i heard from Derek, Brian seems like a really good dude too.

Your everyones coach bowen!

Have you ever tried Armwrestling with your eyes closed to get a stronger feel?

@ryanbluebowen

14 күн бұрын

Indeed. It's a great drill

Nah yall scared Khalid off with the arrogance. Need to be nurturing of someone new coming into the sport. That’s why Larry is gone too. Everyone was critical of his progress, or lack thereof.

@michaelnienaber8263

13 күн бұрын

Yeah, they needed more hours.

Lol

Brian dont need strenght chek vid Eo

Hi Ryan, you need to find some way to contact Bryan Shaw. Let's try to share and spread this video so that it reaches Brian Shaw. He really needs a Coach to train him for several months so that he learns the techniques and exercises well.

@ajedrez914

14 күн бұрын

Maybe through Devon Larratt you can contact him or through some of his strongman friends

@2funny4u95

14 күн бұрын

@@ajedrez914 We all have to unite and make sure Brian stays as far away from Ryan Bowen

Rayen "I'm going to jump on the Shaw bandwangen by making up shit about him" Bowen Brain shaw knows a lot more than you about getting strong, developing techniques and commitment on the heights level. He isn't just a Brut as you suggest, he's an elite athlete. If you spent any amount of time watching him you'd know that. You are attempting to sound smart but really just talking out of your b-hind.

You would indeed be perfect as a coach for guys like him, and Khalil.

Why would Brian train with a mediocre armwrestler? lol

I have to disagree. He needs to be trained on powerful speed explosion gets super strong in One Direction, and absolutely develop other fundamentals around that he is too big, too strong to be slowed down, find his primary comfort zone for the pin, and absolutely make him a monster. Everyone is trying to put Brian Shaw competing at the top of the food chain right away. He needs to start bare minimum middle of the pack.

I think you'd be a good coach for Brian. Ive seen your passion for the sport over the years for one thing, but also i know you are knowledgeable towards table tactics, ive seen how you love to analyze moves and styles. Plus, i think you would be patient enough and not rush things. 👍💪

You obviously haven't followed brian career what so ever. Brian is blessed with strength not cursed. And the reason brian was the best strongman to ever do it, it's because he broke everything down to the most efficient way to win. Of course at first he will try for a horse power to win, he has already went that route against Eddie and juji and some others, But I don't think it's a curse in his case because he breaks everything down.

Funny thing is hes already better than you why on earth would u coach him he needs someone way stronger to actually challenge him in some areas if hes way stronger than ypu hes not gonna learn from you

@UncleTermite

15 күн бұрын

That doesn’t really make sense since he already explained he’d lose in the video but that’s like saying heavy weight boxers need heavy weight trainers because they could beat up their trainers ? Lol

@daveheath19900

14 күн бұрын

That's what I'm saying. He's acting like Brian's an idiot and doesn't know how to adapt. First off he needs someone to coach him who can handle his strength so brian can show his capabilities. It's not were teaching a kid here. He's a fully grown man.

@daveheath19900

14 күн бұрын

Plus ryan has a lot to learn himself judging by his recent matches.

@Weeji_420

10 күн бұрын

​@@daveheath19900you are acting like someone who didn't listen to what he said. Being so strong is the issue, it hides weaknesses in fundamental technique, that might not be needed just now, but once he gets on the table with somebody like Levan, a monster with a ton of technique, then technique wins every time. Doesn't have to be Bowen teaching him this, but it has to be done or he'll just get found out eventually. Once he's learned all of the techniques, then you practice them against folk your own strength. Saying a teacher has to be the same strength is just wrong.

I’m glad you’re not training Brian Shaw. He’s already above your level