If Brains are Computers, Who Designs the Software? - with Daniel Dennett

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Cognitive science sees the brain as a sort of computer, but how does education redesign these cerebral computers? Cognitive scientist, philosopher, and expert on consciousness Daniel Dennett explains.
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There is widespread agreement among researchers in cognitive science that a human brain is some kind of computer, but not much like the laptop. If we look at perceptual experience, and education in particular, as a process of redesigning our cerebral computers, how does the software get designed, and what are the limits of this design process? Daniel C Dennett finds out.
Daniel C Dennett is a cognitive scientist and philosopher with a particular interest in consciousness, free will and the evolution of minds. His newest book, From bacteria to Bach and back, explores how thinking minds could have evolved due to natural selection.
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  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates37692 жыл бұрын

    “Science done right is one of the humanities.” That’s an epic quote: have long thought it and never expressed it. Thanks, Professor D.D. (and anonymous high school physics teacher)!

  • @christopherellis2663

    @christopherellis2663

    2 жыл бұрын

    Science done right...

  • @dorianphilotheates3769

    @dorianphilotheates3769

    2 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Ellis - mea culpa - quite right: “done right”. Thanks, I will edit.

  • @hypehuman

    @hypehuman

    Жыл бұрын

    And the humanities done right is one of the sciences! Any field of study can benefit from applying the best practices of both traditions.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769

    @dorianphilotheates3769

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hypehuman - Entirely agree. I have written of my own field, archaeology as: “the most scientific of the humanities, the most humanistic of the sciences.”

  • @macysondheim

    @macysondheim

    Жыл бұрын

    No.

  • @technics6215
    @technics62154 жыл бұрын

    "Thinking tools" approach/idea is amazing. I never thought about this in that way. Thank you sir!

  • @randomousjam8590
    @randomousjam85902 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great talk Daniel. Two errors I found, anyone please feel free to comment. 1) 1:15:20 "genetic, deep learning algorithms ... sift through data and come up with new ideas", these algorithms do not come up with new ideas, they learn to replicate training labels specified by humans. 2) 8:57 "brains are not serial they're parallel", false, brains are both serial and parallel. For example, the series retina, optic nerve, LGN, V1, etc... is well known.

  • @jelliott8424

    @jelliott8424

    2 жыл бұрын

    Parallel connections can be defined as serial connections running concurrently. A brain simultaneously processes information from multiple streams, even if some interfaces run in 'serial.' I don't know much about genetic algorithms but calling it replication of previous specified labels is just kicking the can down the road. At some point an original 'label' had to be created.

  • @ibnseena

    @ibnseena

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jelliott8424 I totally agree on the parallel concretions definition as used by physicists.... Most of parallel circuits have series branches within them but still called and described as parallel type.

  • @juhanleemet

    @juhanleemet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I tend to agree, having studied some GOFAI decades ago. IMO "modern" methods ML and "AI" seem to merely be "trainable classifiers". They make "decisions" based on training, from predefined data sets, by choosing one (or more?) labels from those determined by some algorithms from the training data. IMO they do not "reason" at all, which I thought was a goal of original AI research. Early on, we were hoping to build "intelligent" reasoning machines which we can understand, and where one can explain the reasoning to arrive at their conclusions. ML has no reasoning, and no explanations, merely "because" (philosophy joke?) that is the emergent behaviour from that particular training algorithm and that particular data set.

  • @FrancisLewis2000

    @FrancisLewis2000

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought the idea with new deep learning was that with enough hidden layers the algorithim will find it's own groups/categories?

  • @IsabelHernandez-ki8ni
    @IsabelHernandez-ki8ni2 жыл бұрын

    When he said "the dream of every cell is to divide" is like an extraterrestrial being looking at us from a distant galaxy with a telescope and saying "the dream of every human is to replicate and die"

  • @kentonian

    @kentonian

    2 жыл бұрын

    If aliens saw what was happening in developed counties they would say that our goal is to make and use toys to avoid the genetic urge to reproduce. We might be gone in the blink of an eye and the same for the aliens so that we never see each other though 😉

  • @donjohnny6462
    @donjohnny64627 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one that is drawn to this man's friendliness and personality? He is so... I am not sure how to say it. I just feel calm and at home.... Santa perhaps? Thank you, Dr. Dennett!

  • @garychap8384

    @garychap8384

    6 жыл бұрын

    He's like a favourite grandpa ... quiet, calm and full of timeless wisdom.

  • @Yeeksquilack

    @Yeeksquilack

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@squarerootof2 Sounds like projection.

  • @squarerootof2

    @squarerootof2

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Yeeksquilack Sounds like you're well into that kind of stuff. Sad.

  • @edgrimm5862

    @edgrimm5862

    5 жыл бұрын

    He reminds me very much of an older coworker of mine who retired back in 2012. And, yes, Bill Waggoner was a Santa around the holidays.

  • @Slash27015

    @Slash27015

    5 жыл бұрын

    It happens to me too whenever I start walking the paths of persception, I believe it's because this science is so blindingly unknown that it's like walking through the woods at night - by then the only light we have is whatever we brought or make ourselves. He puts on his friendliest inner identity as to keep himself safe in the dark, as the common persception in the west is that if you smile first, that smile will transfer to those whom have nothing against you. Sure, his friendly facade won't help with the science, but it'll help him, a human, overcome persceptional limitations even if the truth reveals frightening realisations that would otherwise had halted him, like smiling to yourself in the mirror and then feeling better afterwards because seeing yourself smile feels rewarding. All this self-tinkering is allowing humanity some self- reverse engineering!

  • @jmoreno600
    @jmoreno6002 жыл бұрын

    If you watch at 1.25 speed Dennett's speech becomes as brisk and lively as it was 20 years ago.

  • @Aurealeus

    @Aurealeus

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a good idea. I stopped watching/listening to him years ago because his speech often seemed slow and slurry to me and would put me to sleep, so I'll have to try that.

  • @zdk1099

    @zdk1099

    10 ай бұрын

    Good recommendation! Thanks!

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_15 күн бұрын

    I loved Dr. Daniel Dennett, very sad to hear about his passing, I would have loved to meet him, he was my absolute favorite, an intellectual giant, a legend, true sage, heard he was also very kind gentle person, huge loss to civilization, I will watch tons of his lectures in the next few weeks in his memory, I made a playlist of his lectures and interviews for myself to work through, listening to Dr Dennett lectures would be my idea of Heaven 1:14:33

  • @wade5941
    @wade59412 жыл бұрын

    I love Daniel Dennett because he makes me think. The more I listen to him the more I realize how much I disagree with what he is saying. At times it even sounds like mush. But, I have no doubt that he is much smarter than me, so I just write it off.

  • @LemonChieff
    @LemonChieff6 жыл бұрын

    As a computer science student I really appreciate the "evm" english virtual machine comparison because that's pretty much how java works. Jvm knows how to talk to your cpu and the java applet knows how to talk to Jvm, in that way jvm is a "translator" or in other words an interpreter. the further down you go the closer you are to speaking the same language as your cpu, c is compiled to before you send the app (message) to the computer, so it's "translated" before you post the letter and the compiler knows the the address for you. if you go further down to assembler now you're writing a letter that's mostly in computer language and you need to know the addresses before you post the letter. When you compile (translate) to bytecode your computer can understand the information, it knows what to do with it.

  • @inyobill

    @inyobill

    5 жыл бұрын

    True enough. I'd quibble with the implication that computers "know" anything. It's all electrons bouncing around wires. We may never know, I expect AI to get good enough to pass the Turing test. Whether the system is "actually" "aware", will be undeterminable.

  • @iancasey1486

    @iancasey1486

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Jvm 'knows' how to talk to your cpu"🤔 That construct seem to assign intelligence to JVM. Like the java applet, JVM is all code! Code that was 'designed' by man to follow instructions that operates the cpu! The CPU is equally lifeless as the software(written instructions).

  • @ralphmacchiato3761

    @ralphmacchiato3761

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@inyobill the question is: are we actually aware?

  • @DilworthJonathon

    @DilworthJonathon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ralphmacchiato3761 That is the 'real' Turing test! Joshua Bach has some really interesting ideas with regards to AI, should check him out if you've not done so already.

  • @maevekirkland9452

    @maevekirkland9452

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats how most programming works the compiler for C is itself written in C

  • @401281
    @4012817 жыл бұрын

    When he mentioned mindless processes creating things more advanced than themselves it reminded me Stephen Wolfram's study of cellular automata where he demonstrated how simple rules can create very complex systems.

  • @perplexedmoth

    @perplexedmoth

    7 жыл бұрын

    Israel Grogin good analogy. Also neural networks are an example of self programming/designing simple systems evolving to do complex tasks.

  • @PazLeBon

    @PazLeBon

    7 жыл бұрын

    we cant even understand photosynthesis :)

  • @machine-learning1013

    @machine-learning1013

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah come to think of it! I immediately visualized Conway's game of life when reading your comment.

  • @brianstevens3858

    @brianstevens3858

    7 жыл бұрын

    + Medical Cannabis Spain um wtf did you get that idea www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-it-comes-to-photosynthesis-plants-perform-quantum-computation/

  • @samsmith1580

    @samsmith1580

    7 жыл бұрын

    Cellular automata were invented by John Von Newman and the type of cellular automata Wolfram explores were invented by Claude Shannon. But to listen to Wolfram you would think he invented the whole area himself. He reminds me of these people who patent genes with out knowing anything about them in the hope they will get some money in the future from other peoples research. Wolfram has made bold statements with no real proof and no real advancements in mathematics I think really what he is hoping for is that other people in the future will obtain results from this area of mathematics and he can claim credit.

  • @nano7586
    @nano75864 жыл бұрын

    Lately I started to consider the brain as a giant filter/processor that delivers our consciousness (whatever it may be) the best statistical predictions for certain information patterns in this universe. E.g. we tend to predict human beings as being human with near to 100% accuracy, but we are pretty bad at predicting certain other things (like how we are preceived by others, cause we are often diluded due to self-doubt and other things - or e.g. optical illusions, since our brain is trained to expect certain outcomes). So basically all the brain does is it predicts certain events, it recognizes patterns, and it makes all this data somewhat interpretable. We don't know where consciousness itself comes from.. we just know how to deactivate it like a switch, when deactivating certain neurons, but that isn't proof that certain brain regions create it.

  • @fillinman1

    @fillinman1

    2 жыл бұрын

    His title question reminds me of a similar one. If DNA is written instructions, who is the author? I like your take on the quantum nature of it. Seems like the quantum is the real basis of everything. The Newtonian is like a useful simplification. Ultimately we gotta have an answer to beginning and end.

  • @10418

    @10418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fillinman1 the author may be the “evolution” ?

  • @deejannemeiurffnicht1791

    @deejannemeiurffnicht1791

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some good points there I think. Also, adding to something you point to is the fact, or apparence that just as you can develop muscle memory, so, with the brain also we have a parallel to this, which we could call memory memory, or brain muscle memory. An example is the amount of times I have been in meetings, and the person hosting it is so used to pushing a particular agenda, or to clients who say the same thoughtless things, can usually fall into the crpappy useless habit of NOT LISTENING to the person present, and is answering via ''muscle memory'' of the brain in what they have been taught to say and think, based on the common muddle they are daily subjected to. They are actually NOT hearing you, and NOT answering anything you needed to know. remindfs me a bit of how China's power brokers ''listen'' to their people.

  • @Dandan-tg6tj

    @Dandan-tg6tj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fillinman1 the quantum is also a useful simplification. We are not meant to understand these things and we will never understand them. We humans are built for a purpose and that's it.

  • @Dandan-tg6tj

    @Dandan-tg6tj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@10418 Darwin's evolution? haha.

  • @bulletboy9748
    @bulletboy97482 жыл бұрын

    This topic just randomly popped in my head and my first reaction was to look it up on here. I'm glad I did.

  • @starrmayhem
    @starrmayhem6 жыл бұрын

    A funny little story during my school life. A instructor separated us in to two groups. Told us to tie our legs to other people in the group. Then we will have an extreme edition of a 3 legged race. In practice run, many people had topple over, obviously. The other group's leader told them to synchronize the movements by shouting 1,2 & so on. I simply told mine to keep moving forward & don't fall down. You know what, we across the finish line at same time. The instructor baffled, said cooperation is the key to success & apparently "just do it" also works. The game was outplayed and the monologue was ruined.

  • @senatorjosephmccarthy2720

    @senatorjosephmccarthy2720

    4 жыл бұрын

    There were many more factors in play than the few mentioned.

  • @fillinman1

    @fillinman1

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is apparent with tradesmen. I would always plan carefully. Sometimes best. Others would just start but fail midstream at unforeseen obstacles. Often. Best would briefly survey the task then go, solving problems that came up on the fly and were invariably the fastest. Saw this many times. They intuitively avoided dead stop roadblocks without exactly identifying them beforehand. Now I have a better understanding of this. And I have something to think about. Thanks.

  • @JiveDadson
    @JiveDadson7 жыл бұрын

    Was a time not too many decades ago when every computer was a human. The word pre-dates electronic computers.

  • @gregor-samsa

    @gregor-samsa

    5 жыл бұрын

    you might not konw it, but this one-line comment was the best ever! As therefore, it is a real transition just in the opposite direction of what he wanted to explain in his whole lecture and therefore a proof of his hypothesis just in one line! Let's continue in broken English. (As I am German): "computer " is a word and a meme that is subject to a shift in meaning, let's call this an effect of evolution, too. In the older sense, it was about the brain's abilities. Today, it's about a network of those non-human computers like those termites. BTW "robot " in an earlier meaning is nothing more than a (human) worker; see the famous play of Karel Čapek R.u.R from 1920! Now we have "artificial intelligence" in four seasons;-) and the quote from Goethe: If you lack the ideas, words come in handy ...

  • @iandoyle5017

    @iandoyle5017

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gregor-samsa you should never exclaim when making a statement. Another point i would raise is i am personally aware of the history of the word "robot" but entirely ignorant of the play you referred to, and finally if you were attempting to imply you had your own thoughts on anything discussed in this lecture, you didnt. Ffs

  • @jpdj2715

    @jpdj2715

    4 жыл бұрын

    The word "computer" is the result of linguistically abrasive cultures of who-cares naivety. From Latin "computare" (to count) proper form would have been "computator".

  • @iancasey1486

    @iancasey1486

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jpdj2715 Thus a computer 'calculates' its inputs and give an outputs! A computer does not 'selects' which inputs it wants but what is given. Else, they would be useless a tool to man who have 'designed' them for his aid. A computer do not possess intelligence. Computers are designed to follow the subroutines consisting of algorithms by which they are programmed! Computers are made up of hardware and software. Man design both hardware and software. Humans may still be functional with a brain tumor until a point. What's the equivalent to 'brain tumor' for a computers brain? Which is more resilient to an attack by a virus? The human brain or the computer [brain]?

  • @eldontyrell4361

    @eldontyrell4361

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iandoyle5017 lol

  • @timsmith5339
    @timsmith53392 жыл бұрын

    What a fascinating and informative talk. Early in the lecture he asked the question, 'Are our brains computers?' and even before he answered I was saying, 'Yes! of course they are." I also thought as he continued, that if your definition precludes it from being a computer, it is your definition that needs looking at. I remembered back to when I was an apprentice at Lucas Aerospace in the UK many (many, many) years ago. One item of aviation hydraulic equipment they made was the wing sweep controller for the Panavia Tornado. This was a computer but entirely hydraulic (in its decision making). It took control inputs and sensor readings and calculated the appropriate output. You could not find within it a 'program'. Sure, there would have been a written algorithm during its design. A list if logic statements and tables of data to inform the output, but you would not find a 'program' stored in the unit anywhere. It is still a computer though.

  • @makaylahollywood3677
    @makaylahollywood36772 жыл бұрын

    This gets my attention..makes my brain light up- eyes wide open. Thank you! The programs are downloaded between ages 0- 7 from our parent, teachers, etc.

  • @WmTyndale

    @WmTyndale

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are forgetting about the BIOS. The original was given by God and reproduced.

  • @Bob-of-Zoid

    @Bob-of-Zoid

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WmTyndale Danial Dennet strongly disagrees with you, and so do I! If you believe there is a god despite a complete lack of viable evidence, then your software is millennia out of date, and the data corruption accumulative! You have no evidence for your claim! The time to believe is when there is sufficient evidence, and well, you can pile layer upon layer of bad evidence onto a mountain of bad evidence (mere anecdote and false attribution in god's case), and it will never amount to a single shred of good evidence! No amount of faith based belief can make truth.

  • @MrTomb789

    @MrTomb789

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WmTyndale Where is God?..

  • @zerototalenergy150
    @zerototalenergy1504 жыл бұрын

    Michio Kaku's theory on quantifying consciousness suggests "consciousness is the number of feedback loops required to create a model of your position in space with relation to other organisms and time...."

  • @MyMusics101

    @MyMusics101

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haven't read anything of him, so maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but this seems to be a blatant category error to me. Either the usages of 'number' or 'consciousness' here are extremely far removed from the ordinary ones or that statement does not seem to make sense at a very fundemental level. How could it possibly be sensible to say "For me, currently, consciousness is x" where x is 3 or pi or 12-7i or aleph_0 or any other kind of number?

  • @zerototalenergy150

    @zerototalenergy150

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MyMusics101 it is worth while to watch Dr.Michio kaku's presentation on consciousness.... he is internationally well known physicist..(one of the founders of "string theory"...)basically he is saying that there are different levels of consciousness...i.e flower....trees...bacteria.. mouse..monkey...orangutans(not only conscious but self aware ) .human..(consciousness and self awareness..) .

  • @iancasey1486

    @iancasey1486

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zerototalenergy150 You know that this assumption is total madness? We can only speak about our individual consciousness/awareness. Flower, trees refer to the plant kingdom which is different from the humanity. If bacteria is a consciousness then what are you when eat vegetables and meat that have bacteria?🤔 What's the difference between a patient in coma and another patient who is unconscious? Can someone who is unconscious be aware of his environment? Can he answer the paramedics or even call 911 for help? Does a plant

  • @zerototalenergy150

    @zerototalenergy150

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iancasey1486 create a model of "YOUR" position in space with relation to other organisms and time...."

  • @zebaansari

    @zebaansari

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reality doesn't exist if it's not measured no consiousness needed just a measurement

  • @0Metatron
    @0Metatron3 жыл бұрын

    Another perspective is to think of the brain like a television set. It receives consciousness from the cosmos and interprets it in a way that is practical for human life and operating on a very narrow bandwidth

  • @RAIRADIO

    @RAIRADIO

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hinduism 101

  • @Bob-of-Zoid

    @Bob-of-Zoid

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's just pseudo-science mumbo jumbo with zero viable evidence to back it up!

  • @starfishsystems

    @starfishsystems

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get back to us when you can test that hypothesis. Bear in mind that it requires multiple extraordinary assumptions, so maybe start working on those first: 1) The existence of some kind of cosmic consciousness, for which there is currently zero evidence. 2) The existence of a very high bandwidth bidirectional signalling medium, currently undetectable, whose signal energy is unaffected by every form of shielding material that humans have ever encountered. 3) The identification of the special property of human brain matter - and all other known neurological structures in other species as well - that can detect and transmit signals across this same medium while not consuming or dissipating measurable energy.

  • @Dandan-tg6tj

    @Dandan-tg6tj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@starfishsystems There's so many things science can't prove. I'm not saying that the brain as a tv set theory is right or wrong but servers work for more users at the same time so it isn't something really unbelievable. And one more thing- science proven facts are changing constantly so I guess science has its limits, after all.

  • @Dandan-tg6tj

    @Dandan-tg6tj

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bob-of-Zoid How would you know? World isn't as young as science told us it is. It seems like in a distant past we had technology more advanced than we have today and maybe The Great Flood we know about from the Bible might actually been happening for real and maybe more than once. Pseudo science is the science that every 50 years or so is deemed wrong? If so the entire human science is pseudo science, my friend. Do not bow to science as if it was a God. Science, just as the false idols are, is man made so it can't be a God, it can't be absolute.

  • @inyobill
    @inyobill5 жыл бұрын

    I am under the impression that Groves was certainly the administrative controller, but the physicists and engineers actually were in control of what got built and how (explicitly, Oppenheimer was in charge of the technical and creative work).

  • @juhanleemet

    @juhanleemet

    2 жыл бұрын

    relates to the conundrum of how do you control or manage poeple smarter than you are? or how we choose specialist professionals?

  • @granthurlburt4062

    @granthurlburt4062

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's a great TV film about Oppenheimer and Groves. In one scene he says "I played him like a fiddle".

  • @granthurlburt4062

    @granthurlburt4062

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juhanleemet Relates to the question: If you're a highly intelligent person, how do you deal with administrators who are stupidr than you and judge you based on their inadequate understanding? Oppenheimer was denied security clearance by FBI agents (I believe) who put him into simple-minded categories and thought no more about it.

  • @ioannisimansola7115
    @ioannisimansola71153 жыл бұрын

    Excellent thinking. I always say , even with common daily software that this is the case. Each computer's suffers as much as his programmer

  • @tombeall1182

    @tombeall1182

    2 жыл бұрын

    9

  • @suzieb8366
    @suzieb83664 жыл бұрын

    Fascinated mindless worker at the bottom learnt so much from this lecture...THANK YOU.

  • @zagyex

    @zagyex

    3 жыл бұрын

    for example?

  • @morningstar3437

    @morningstar3437

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zagyex 😂

  • @trankt54155
    @trankt541552 жыл бұрын

    Right there in that auditorium, extra-terrestials under cloak walked around and laughed to each others about the lifeforms they had created on "Earth" planet.....just like the numerous electromagnetic waves that travels through the space and people sitting there who are totally unaware because they do not have the right sensors to pick up the various frequencies....

  • @gerbil61

    @gerbil61

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is really no different from the God Hypothesis. It pushes back the problem to an earlier cause : Who created the Aliens/God? Did they create themselves? If so, wouldn't it be simpler to say that we designed ourselves and are 'cloaked' from seeing it?

  • @skepticalbutopen4620
    @skepticalbutopen4620Ай бұрын

    Reading Intuition Pumps by Dennett now and watching all his content to reinforce his work.

  • @desi76
    @desi762 жыл бұрын

    The speaker made an observation that intrigues me. He stated that it's possible to benefit from a certain aspect of our nature without understanding how that nature came into being and gave the example of a butterfly with camouflage patterns. This notion can be extended to disease. Presently, we treat "diseases" as if they are bad or harmful, but if we're truly the subject of Biological Evolution then the mutations that are expressed as "diseases" are simply the subtle, biological evolutionary steps towards human betterment. For instance, we may think heart attacks are bad not knowing that they are actually the evolutionary step towards developing a better heart. Or, the elimination of the heart as the fulcrum of the cardiovascular system. Perhaps, as evolutionists we should be thinking twice about treating certain conditions or risk hampering human development?

  • @j.christie2594

    @j.christie2594

    Жыл бұрын

    Like feet, our feet are not well suited for us. Due to year's centuries of Shoe's.

  • @buckrogers5331
    @buckrogers53317 жыл бұрын

    It would help very much if they show what's on the screen as they do in TED. ;-)

  • @curtcoller3632

    @curtcoller3632

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes Buck, but that would require a third camera (+man), or the one who has the back (total view) camera needs to zoom in on the shown details or graphs. Then the mixer (+man) needs to be competent enough to switch at the right time. You see how complicated it gets (TED has solved that ;-)

  • @marekliban7366

    @marekliban7366

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@curtcoller3632 no, you just need simple postproduction ;)

  • @Holobrine

    @Holobrine

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@curtcoller3632 I think it could be done just by recording the slide deck on a separate video track and editing it in afterwards

  • @jadetucker8681

    @jadetucker8681

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Holobrine im sure they are smart enough to figure it out :p

  • @DaDudeClub

    @DaDudeClub

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@curtcoller3632 there's PiP. I don't need o see a torso or the back lid of a computer.

  • @DelireWeb
    @DelireWeb4 жыл бұрын

    Answer: we did, along a myriad of updates along upgrades (fortunately we're mortals). Many people are filled with bloatware though.

  • @trafficjon400

    @trafficjon400

    2 жыл бұрын

    MEDIA is bloatware.

  • @rodneykawecki1770
    @rodneykawecki17705 жыл бұрын

    "Cognitive Cerebral Consciousness". Really like your work, sir. Yes, our brains are not computers but they are computerized. Wow, that one's pretty good! ( Universe Consciousness)

  • @SoirEkim
    @SoirEkim4 жыл бұрын

    I do believe our brain is the computing hardware. The software is the data flowing through chemical, electrical and quantum interference signals. Our minds are the result of the software at work. Our soul is the quantum “wave” field that holds our “molecules” together. We are bio-mechanical machines. However, we are so incredibly complex we exhibited free will. Wonderful thoughts.

  • @SoirEkim

    @SoirEkim

    4 жыл бұрын

    Free will to believe what we choose. Enjoy.

  • @10418

    @10418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoirEkim i don’t really believe in free will, Sadly

  • @darkpandemic5802
    @darkpandemic58024 жыл бұрын

    i watched this 5 times just because i like him talking

  • @250txc

    @250txc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Certainly glad I ~never had that thought.

  • @venturarodriguezvallejo9777

    @venturarodriguezvallejo9777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not me. Apart the "slow motion" effect, his difficult breath is anguishing.

  • @zagyex

    @zagyex

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exaybachay

  • @Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am

    @Pretty_Boy_Proud_Fil-Am

    2 жыл бұрын

    Explain why.

  • @spnhm34
    @spnhm345 жыл бұрын

    It could be argued that internet memes are a form of cultural expression, whether you like them or not. They reinforce shared values, thereby making one group more strongly bonded. It’s simply a larger scale version of making a joke to a group of people sitting around a campfire. The evolutionary advantage of having people on your side should be easy enough to work out

  • @juhanleemet

    @juhanleemet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I disagree somewhat with Dennett when he says memes are created by a "mindless" process. While the actual creation might be random, successful memes do have some "selection" (as he says) perhaps external like "which boats came back", but also cultural. We do not accept ALL memes "just because". We have some choice (insert arguments about "free will" here?) in which memes we like or adopt. We could think of this as possibly a form of "intelligence amplification"? Vague glimmerings of preference are combined in society to choose which memes are acceptable, and then society builds on them, as they form part of the cultural context. The decision making is diffuse and unorganized and bottom-up, but is that totally "mindless"? True there is no "one mind" controlling the process, but perhaps many little minds?

  • @nickbarton3191
    @nickbarton31912 жыл бұрын

    In modern computer software design, not only are there abstractions of the language eg. Java but we've developed design patterns. These are standard design solutions to common problems. One of the main advantages of patterns is not only do we have ready solutions but we can communicate that solution to another engineer with a single phrase thus speeding up the development process. "What you want there is an observer pattern". Naming things is one of the things that makes us human. The speed of advancement depends on it.

  • @desi76
    @desi762 жыл бұрын

    The speaker argued for the ability of a blind and undirected process (biological evolution) to orchestrate a complicated process. He gave the example of the construction of the JPL building and how the construction workers were not aware of the purpose of the building as they raised its walls and laid its foundation, completely ignoring the fact that there were persons who were aware of the building's purpose and intelligently orchestrated its construction. In the context of the abiogenesis of life, where did that initial spark of intelligence come from in the orchestration of cell replication, arrangement and timing? A prior, superior intelligence as the cause of biology is worthy of pursuing scientifically.

  • @Jester123ish
    @Jester123ish6 жыл бұрын

    Raymond Tallis' point was that having grown up in modern technological society when we come to try to imagine what the brain is and how it works we readily adopt the model of the computer, that is what is familiar to us. Tallis being a neuroscientist (and a polymath) does not believe that the model is the correct one and that there are many important and profound differences we need to not overlook. But hey, if you mentioned him in another talk we can just ignore all that, right?

  • @Oberon4278

    @Oberon4278

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I was pretty disappointed in this talk. Apparently the presenter is a philosopher, not a computer scientist or a neuroscientist. So why should we give his opinion any weight? The definition of "computer" that he gives is incomplete and inaccurate. A computer is a well defined machine, and the definition is not "a thing that can process information." I'm disappointed that he didn't even attempt to provide the proper definition of a computer (that is, a Turing machine,) but then again maybe I shouldn't be surprised. After all, if he had, he would have had to explain how the human brain is a Turing machine, and there is very good evidence that it is not. Perhaps he avoided the rigorous definition of "computer" on purpose rather than out of ignorance.

  • @TheNefari
    @TheNefari7 жыл бұрын

    That was bloody brilliant i keep this app in my necktop^^

  • @donchristie420

    @donchristie420

    7 жыл бұрын

    Good one,props

  • @rogerbeck2085

    @rogerbeck2085

    6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent lecture, thanks to you and the people who were involved in making it available on the internet.

  • @ryanmurray6784

    @ryanmurray6784

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like to keep KZread on all my devices.

  • @dannygjk

    @dannygjk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rogerbeck2085 Has your intelligence increased to the point that you get why people do that?

  • @jpdj2715

    @jpdj2715

    4 жыл бұрын

    Keep it bloody

  • @MikeJovani
    @MikeJovani6 жыл бұрын

    Listening to this in the background I cannot help but picture John C Reilly speaking. Great lecture. :)

  • @michaeleinstein7097
    @michaeleinstein7097 Жыл бұрын

    1 Clearly defined laws regarding the definition and criteria for consciousness in AI, and regulations on their use and treatment. 2 Legal recognition of advanced AI as autonomous entities with rights and responsibilities. 3 Clear guidelines for the ethical use and development of advanced AI, including ensuring that they are not used to harm or discriminate against humans. 4 Regulations to protect the privacy and personal data of individuals, as well as prevent misuse of AI by organizations and individuals. 5 Responsibilities placed on creators, developers and owners of AI systems to ensure they are operating safely and ethically. 6 Government oversight and regulation of the development and use of AI, with penalties for non-compliance. 7 Standards for transparency and explainability in AI systems, to ensure that their decision-making processes are understandable and accountable. 8 Investment in research and development of safety and ethical measures for advanced AI. 9 Education and public awareness programs to educate the public about AI and its potential impact on society. 10 Robust international cooperation, to ensure that AI development and regulation is consistent across borders and that the potential negative impact of AI on individuals and society is minimized.

  • @Bob-of-Zoid
    @Bob-of-Zoid2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad the EVM between my ears is working well, up to date and malware free!! I love Daniel Dennet, and everything he has done for this world in educating so many people by explaining intricate scientific and philosophical concepts in ways less learned people can understand, and especially for exposing the foibles of harboring unsubstantiated often dangerous beliefs such as religious fundamentalism.

  • @deejannemeiurffnicht1791

    @deejannemeiurffnicht1791

    2 жыл бұрын

    ''Malware free''? I doubt that VERY MUCH! The brain, for instance, has been hacked for millenia. religion? Gladiatorial/sports? What has become known as propaganda? Tabloids? And elite-leaning press? Any-leaning press. certain styles of drug communities (they got hacked by initially the U.S. legal/political monster to MAKE IT DANGEROUS.) So it is popously RIDICULOUS to make your point beyond humour.

  • @judith8161
    @judith81612 жыл бұрын

    My brain/computer struggles to follow the thinking of this brilliant man, but it's also very fascinated because I always tried to figure out why I don't like computers.

  • @Dandan-tg6tj

    @Dandan-tg6tj

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you ever think that your brain/computer is able to grow new alive cells each second of your life and it is able to make them communicate one with the other and is able to tell them what to do to keep you alive against everything that's against you. Those are infinite more complex to follow than someone else's thinking. We are amazing machines. Imagine our tools of the year 2022 trying to make a board with 80 to 100 billion neurons and this would only be one brain. Imagine those machines trying to build the vast amount of billions of cells that make the human body. Now imagine someone or something programmed this to grow up from two cells. Now THAT is a master program.

  • @geoffseyon3264
    @geoffseyon3264 Жыл бұрын

    It is a great exercise to think about how the “unintelligent” assembly of documents and human knowledge over the past 30 years of building the internet has now led it to become the “intelligence” for platforms like GPT. Very stimulating and provocative talk from quite a while back but quite relevant today in our age of unintelligent “transformers”.

  • @tousdr
    @tousdr2 жыл бұрын

    I love this tempo of talking. Gives importance to the content of the speech. Simple sentences, not too simple and time and pause to digest them. No show. No artificial postures or tones to impress the audience. No flashes. Thanks

  • @buybuydandavis
    @buybuydandavis4 жыл бұрын

    "Your necktop" Nice meme there.

  • @asmrfan6543
    @asmrfan65437 жыл бұрын

    Do you compute things in your brain? Yes? Well, that makes you a computer. Sadly, most of us have so much nonsense in our heads, we can't even recognize this.

  • @saosaqii5807

    @saosaqii5807

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well there’s no need to, for most people’s life it’s irrelevant if it is or not but yes it’s a computer A fleshy one

  • @ws6002
    @ws60024 жыл бұрын

    Three years too late, but I would suggest the lecturer watch the Feynman lecture, "Los Alamos From Below". Feynman visited Oak Ridge during the Manhatten project and told the engineers and scientists there a lot of information they needed so as design their isotope separation to avoid near critical mass events that could have harmed or killed the Oak Ridge staff.

  • @bobbg9041
    @bobbg9041 Жыл бұрын

    To answer you questions we absorb knowledge and form oppions based on what we've learned and as we age the programming gets more refined untill our head drive starts to fail and go into protection mode. And things don't compute anymore.

  • @peaceforever8755
    @peaceforever87552 жыл бұрын

    So, internet is primordial soup for AI.

  • @41357500

    @41357500

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes dna came from rocks lol

  • @donk1822
    @donk18224 жыл бұрын

    Love this guy, he reminds me of the kind geologist in Big Bang, voice, mannerisms, looks.

  • @chrislong1287
    @chrislong12872 жыл бұрын

    In 2000 BC the brain was compared to an abacus, 15th century the brain was compared to a clock, in the 1700s it was compared to a steam engine. Now it’s compared to the most advanced device we know of, the computer

  • @jamesdobson2251

    @jamesdobson2251

    2 жыл бұрын

    U program your own brain ! After child hood

  • @grossherman3841
    @grossherman38414 жыл бұрын

    The strive forward of the human race is down to communication and education. From learning those same instinctive abilities of our fellow life forms to education of our specific species and then to the ability to communicate that education. The aforesaid is both why and how modern human beings became so dominant.

  • @Zhixalom
    @Zhixalom4 жыл бұрын

    In the time of Alan Turing and during the second world war "a computer" was something you would call a person.

  • @iancasey1486

    @iancasey1486

    3 жыл бұрын

    But when do we call a computer a person? Calling a person a computer is not to be taken literally. It's only describing that the person is fast/computative as a computer.

  • @vtblda

    @vtblda

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@iancasey1486 Not back in those days. During the 30's and the 40's in the past century, those people called computers, limited their lives to compute, as to say: count! Numbers, stars, particles, components, whatever you can think that was accountable, those guys would count it. It is a very simple concept, as a matter of fact.

  • @juhanleemet

    @juhanleemet

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@iancasey1486 by definition a computer is a person or thing that "computes", and the only examples that previously existed were people, such as in the movie "Hidden Figures". In recent times the term has become mostly used for those electronic devices that we use for computing. From original definitions, we might still call the people that operate computers to be "computers", but that could get really confusing, so we differentiate: operators, programmers, analysts, etc.

  • @blogblocks8370
    @blogblocks83705 жыл бұрын

    Self preservation, self awareness, and self motivation are the separation from man and computers. If computers are ever programmed or taught those three traits, we will have created a entity competitive against us.

  • @MetalFacerRules

    @MetalFacerRules

    3 жыл бұрын

    what he meant by we are like computers that we are sharing the same fundamental mathematical calculation processing, input and output and stuff

  • @neillynch_ecocidologist

    @neillynch_ecocidologist

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MetalFacerRules what he meant by computers are like us is that both are excellent at processing / storing / retrieving data. His big flaw is he ascribes free will to humans and can't see how we evolved the software we run on over millions of years. He's basically a shameless capitalism / religion apologist, ultimately.

  • @10418

    @10418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MetalFacerRules dna: instructions

  • @user-fk8rb8ue5h
    @user-fk8rb8ue5hАй бұрын

    A typical philosopher. Very interesting use of words by the man.

  • @wildthing72
    @wildthing722 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the lecturer and his views given here and I believe that computer engineers have simply in effect been so far too busy to solve the 'build a human brain in software' problem. Brains are not computers due to their evolutionary nature, they were built for throwing spears and visual acuity, naming objects with language, story telling, humour, philosopy and yes, finally building and testing abstract concepts(science). But I believe computers will be made to work like brains, firstly, in their visual processing and then their ability to understand and finally explain abstract concepts. There has thus far been too many problems looking for solutions required to assist humans with all the things that we cannot do quickly and visually or computationally. Plus, engineers even posessing the flaws and critiques aimed at them as being awkward or anti-social are creating a new social oriented universe, where future experts can learn at home equally as they could in universities using new techologies. Political activism and the nature of human behaviour has become part of a global understanding, repressed countries can now access science and view points that traditional experts cannot teach them. Geniuses with future ability to contribute massively to human development have to find each other. Computers on Earth and the moon and the other planets when landed on will need their own internet. Science and space exploration will need a method to capture every abstract concept so it's not lost or so a ship's computer travelling into deep space will be able to advise humans on repairs and science. We would not want to avoid building a ship's computer simply because we possess a natural fear of computers. So I believe in 50 years we will have to have a computer that can explain most abstract concepts as good as Dennett or Penrose. Consciousness may really be the final problem to solve, if it's even necessary. It has after all, evolved relatively late in animal development compared to all the other aspects of animal nature such as social behaviour and hierarchy.

  • @dippingbird

    @dippingbird

    2 жыл бұрын

    No one knows when consciousness evolved. They can't even have an informed guess.

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing4 жыл бұрын

    This makes me realize a few things. 1. Man we must have been dumb back in the day and through sheer luck and animal survival instinct to run away from anything that just killed the guy next to you. 2. Wow lots of us must have died through trial an error. 3. We over wrote our own animistic "software" to become aware free thinking and able to invent everything up to this day. Pretty good video that gets the brain churning. Also Necktop is funny lol

  • @Bob-of-Zoid

    @Bob-of-Zoid

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plenty of really dumb people being born each day, and dying by by trial and error instead of thinking things through first.

  • @justinleemiller
    @justinleemiller7 жыл бұрын

    What a great explainer! Thank you for the upload.

  • @farmergiles1065
    @farmergiles106511 ай бұрын

    If my brain is only a computer, then let me die today.

  • @dwinsemius
    @dwinsemius3 жыл бұрын

    Your "necktop" throws sentences (ideas) and pictures(one of the ways we remember things) and sounds (a way of encoding and storing words and experiences) around inside itself. The winners are the "you" at the moment.

  • @mahmoudassyass186
    @mahmoudassyass1867 жыл бұрын

    Here we Go !!

  • @audreymciver3087
    @audreymciver30874 жыл бұрын

    i absoloutly love your videos!

  • @MarkLawsonY3K
    @MarkLawsonY3K2 жыл бұрын

    Dan, Dan, Dan. Dad gone at 5, raised by a Saintly Mom with 3 kids, I used the no Dad excuse for many a year. As a teen JoAnn sat me down, apologized and said to take some responsibility, be happy. Easy enough, I chose my Father figures, gleaned every iota of what I thought was important. I had the greatest adventure and fun. As an old man, I'm more conscious of all the grateful gifts, I would hoe the weeds At Larry Krauss's house, pick apples on Gabor Mate's farm and wash the windows at Noam's house, lastly (or lately), I giggle about camping with Sam, Hitch, Dawkins and you. Well said Dad. Sincerely Lawson di Ransom Canyon

  • @lesliekilgore648
    @lesliekilgore6484 жыл бұрын

    my necktop (love the word BTW!) thoroughly enjoyed that EVM.

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor54627 жыл бұрын

    Before the invention if electronic computers in the 1940's most people compared brains to telegraph systems, but brains aren't really telegraph systems, because they do much more than telegraph systems can do. Now we have brains compared to computers because computers do more than telegraph systems, but they still aren't exactly like brains. You might be able to say that brains are, in fact computers, but you can't say that computers are thinking machines. Both brains and computers can take in and process information, but computers can't think. In the future they may well invent machines that can think, but these machines won't work the way computers work. And we will not experience the "Singularity" until computers can be designed to think.

  • @Radgerayden-ist

    @Radgerayden-ist

    5 жыл бұрын

    Eric Taylor you gotta agree that the modern computer (starting with ones such as ENIAC) are a pivotal point because they're reprogrammable. That's why computer is such an iconical word, I'd say it's the last step. Because there's no need to invent something entirely new, you just make a better computer. Obviously future computers will be different, but I don't see how we need anything radically different than the ability to input software and get results, specially if you consider that self changing software is perfectly possible as it is but not invented yet.

  • @xImBeaST12321x

    @xImBeaST12321x

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are computers thinking agents. Well probably not. But computers can in fact progress and gain information provided a set of rules or a framework. This is what happened to the best chess player in history which is a computer that plays itself repeatedly and learned to beat the engine. Another example is league of legend (or maybe dota2) AI that did the same as the chess ai and became better then the best gamer teams in the world who spend thousands of thousands of hours playing.

  • @catStone92

    @catStone92

    5 жыл бұрын

    it's a little more complicated than that both being computers doesn't necessarily mean they're equivalent or that you can substitute one for the other, even if both are turing complete. Remember that the theoretical standard assumes both have infinite memory and instantaneous run time. What that means is that even though both can theoretically do the same thing, some architectures are much more suited for some tasks than others. Think quantum computers vs normal computers. One can't replace the other, they are better suited to some other type of tasks. what we have nowdays with stuff like neural networks is how using the architecture of your regular computers we can have meta programs that somewhat behave like your brain does. So asside from the differences in architecture (which means some computers will do some tasks more efficiently than others) it might very well be posible for computers to think, with the appropriate sofware. They would just work on a different time scale. the more complicated side of the issue is: we don't even know what "thinking" actually means. Where's the line between just computing and thinking? Self-awareness? Because that's something we can't measure.

  • @MaxBrix

    @MaxBrix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Computers don't do much computing. They mainly display and alter files. They should be called electronic filing cabinets. They are capable of computing though. General purpose computing is the same thing regardless of the machine it is done on. You get the same answer whether you compute mechanically, electronically, biologically, you can compute with matchboxes.

  • @zagyex

    @zagyex

    5 жыл бұрын

    some say that there are many many problems in mathematics which are not solvable with any computation but perfectly clear for human intuition. That would be a good argument for the case that thinking is more than what algorithms (and so computers of today's sort) will ever be able to do.

  • @TheDerwisch77
    @TheDerwisch777 жыл бұрын

    I have so many time, having studied it for a couple of years but finally succumbing to my scientific person, listened to peoples who called themselves philosophers of science, who had not a single idea about the scientific area they where putting out "philosophical" ideas about. I'm a computer scientist now and have some idea of neurology because of personal interest...and to all my knowledge, this guy really knows what he is talking about! Kudos!

  • @RoboBoddicker

    @RoboBoddicker

    7 жыл бұрын

    If I recall, Dennett is a big proponent of philosophers working together with scientists and pursuing science as a way to further philosophical thought.

  • @darkobul1

    @darkobul1

    7 жыл бұрын

    TheDerwisch77 100 years ago there was no scientists, they called them self philosophers. Difference is science does not have moral mesurement integrated in it self in contrary to philosophy. Science does not bother with questions of morality is something wise or not good or bad. just what is possible and has funds to be paid, profit and researched. That is needed today othervise it would not work for many.

  • @TheDerwisch77

    @TheDerwisch77

    7 жыл бұрын

    Darko Bulatovic: I'm not sure if it is me not understanding what you want to tell me or if it is you who did not understand what I was saying. As I said, I studied Philosophy for a couple of years myself, that is "at university", not "by google", and I know perfectly well where philosophy has its place. What I was trying to say is simply that during my time at the university and time and again afterwards I met people who where well renowned philosophers who talked about scientific matter like quantum mechanics, theory of relativity, A.I. or genetics for instance, and who did not have a single clue about the subject they were talking about and made philosophical statements regarding those subjects based on a very shallow if not non existant understanding of the subject at hand. Daniel Dennett appears to have done his homework in this regard.

  • @darkobul1

    @darkobul1

    7 жыл бұрын

    TheDerwisch77 I have met a lot of scientist that are like that as well. Just having diplomas and PhD and being members of institutions and groups does not make you true anything. True philosopher is a person who seeks wisdom, not credits. Dont get me wrong, I just expressed my view not disagreeing with what you say

  • @darkobul1

    @darkobul1

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think that science of today is far bellow Philosophy. It cant compare as Idea. Scientist is a mare solder while Philosopher is a King. In ideal forms of course. What people call today philosophy and science is a wide interpretation and with many I cant agree.That is why I have abandoned University and took my own path in study. Universities are like Guilds, you need to confirm your teacher otherwise you will not get diploma. That has nothing to do with truth but establishing MLM pyramidal organisation that serves it self a purpose not serving the form - truth. Philosophy is root of all true sciences. Chemistry, Mathematica, Astronomy, Psychic... all we have thanks to Philosophy.

  • @giovannip.1433
    @giovannip.14334 жыл бұрын

    You could also consider that the human condition becomes the development tool for our consciousness- starting from basic concepts leading to all manner of skills and 'powers' based on the utilisation of the human body.

  • @komolutrykevin4532
    @komolutrykevin45325 жыл бұрын

    yes your right Grogin ,can remember till now when he demonstrated the process related to how a simple rules can create very complex system of course.......

  • @mrbeancanman
    @mrbeancanman7 жыл бұрын

    Best talk I've heard in a while. Very interesting stuff.

  • @jiohdi
    @jiohdi4 жыл бұрын

    funny thing is that humans, specifically accountants, were the original computers. The machines were called computers when they became useful enough to be accountant like.

  • @abcde_fz
    @abcde_fz2 жыл бұрын

    Emotions are interesting things. Before you feel a certain way about something, say some situation, or some person, your brain must go through a process of assessing the situation, or recognizing the person. In it's most fundamental form, it must go through a quantitative process. It has to literally 'place' that situation or person on a scale that runs roughly like this: from disgust, through dislike, or dissatisfaction, to neutrality, or towards satisfaction, maybe preference, then liking, and up to loving. Your brain has to go through a quantitative analysis, (which is almost instantaneous), before it can truly develop an emotional reaction to something. It has to think, before it can feel.

  • @Theroadneverending
    @Theroadneverending2 жыл бұрын

    Mind blowing to see we are just neurons working together at the fundamental level

  • @scottcupp8129

    @scottcupp8129

    2 жыл бұрын

    It really is. Thing of it is, there are just so many of them working together on this fundamental level. Perfect synchronicity. When you think about it, our brain processes information and translates that information in to something useful. So yes, the brain is essentially a computer.

  • @Simon-xi8tb

    @Simon-xi8tb

    Жыл бұрын

    There is not a single neuroscientist or any other scientist that can explain how do you get experience out of neural activity. So i dont think we are just neurons at the fundamental level, there is something much deeper at work here. But it requiers expanding your mind a bit..

  • @MarttiSuomivuori
    @MarttiSuomivuori4 жыл бұрын

    I remember trying to read his first book after having seen his interview in Playboy. The name of the book was 'Consciousness Explained'. After having got halfway through and Dennet still wondering about ´how the presence of consciousness could be verified, I threw the book in the garbage. After Dennet had met Dawkins, he became much more coherent as the concept of 'Neural Darwinism' proved to be a useful tool. The brain is not a computer like the ones people make. It does compute, simulate, steer, learn, remember and evaluate among other things. It also creates the world we live in, for each and every one of us, in private. The world it creates -or the worlds- are the only ones we have access to. Nothing exists to us unless our brain makes an image of it. This is the key.

  • @kregorovillupo3625

    @kregorovillupo3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Nim Boo "In laymans terms; God is alive and for ever the sole Creator of the Universe which is his creation and from which He is seperate." In layman terms, prove it.

  • @venturarodriguezvallejo9777

    @venturarodriguezvallejo9777

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can be right... But because your conclusion, we can be lead to Solipsism, wich being irrefutable, is not demonstrable, either.

  • @kregorovillupo3625

    @kregorovillupo3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@venturarodriguezvallejo9777 Yes, i can't really prove that everything exists. But if i can't assume that, as you note, i can't do anything to know reality. What i can do is assume that other people (and reality) exists, because pragmatically it seems to be so. This isn't at all applyable to a god: it's presence isn't obvious to me as it is of other people. If you want to stretch the concept of evidence so far to conclude that reality isn't real, you have evidence that "all that is" is your mind alone, no god there. Instead, if you want to pragmatically assume reality is real, we can explore it, and there's no evidence of a god there either. If you want to have faith in a god, you don't need and don't want evidence.

  • @venturarodriguezvallejo9777

    @venturarodriguezvallejo9777

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kregorovillupo3625 Agree with you. Very well structured answer. (BTW.: I'm an agnostic in the sense I DON'T KNOW if something we call "God" exists or not. Both believers and atheists have not give me so far well reasoned arguments to tip my opinion to one side or the opposite. The very concept behind the term "God" is quite a fuzzy one so, even for talking about it we have to define it first far more accurately than we can, I'm afraid).

  • @kregorovillupo3625

    @kregorovillupo3625

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@venturarodriguezvallejo9777 I've only tried to be clear, english isn't my first language and i had to learn it by my own. I'm glad you liked it. I use for me the label of Agnostic Atheist, because i use definition of the two words out of the "layman" use. Agnostic is a declaratio on knowledge, Atheist is a declaration on faith (or lack of, in this case). If at the question "Do you believe in god?" you answer "No", you are atheist. If at the question "Describe me your god" you answer "I've no sufficent elements to do it adequately", you're agnostic. This defines 4 major kind of stance on spirituality, see if you recognize yourself into one: Gnostic Theist: "I believe in god, and he's jhahwheh/allah/brama/manitù/whatever" Agnostic Theist: "I believe there's something there, but i can't describe what it is" Agnostic Atheist: "I don't believe a god exists, because every description provided left me unconvinced" Gnostic Atheist: "I can't believe your god exist, because [insert reasons here, like "his description is logically inconsistent, so he can't logically exist"]"

  • @dakrontu
    @dakrontu4 жыл бұрын

    We wield the paintbrush like Icarus wielded his wings. Let us hope that we fare better.

  • @fluentpiffle
    @fluentpiffle2 жыл бұрын

    'Consciousness' is the evolving faculty of thinking. In thinking about thoughts, 'consciousness' becomes more acutely aware of itself. This in itself is how we can determine its necessarily emergent nature.. In other creatures we can see the actions brought about by thoughts. We can observe the process and deduce the necessities of the situation. In Humans, the process has simply moved on to another stage, the 'thinking about thoughts', which we call 'consciousness'..

  • @crossbowmd61
    @crossbowmd612 жыл бұрын

    You're analogy of the Oak Ridge workers, as being 'clueless' is faulty. They may not have known what the overall project was about, but they knew what their own duties and responsibilities were, and performed them as per their understanding. That was sufficient, and, doesn't indicate they were mindless termites.

  • @sekito2125
    @sekito21252 жыл бұрын

    So, basically, by defining "computer" in a completely unconventional vague and all-encompassing way, he proves the brain is a "computer". how revolutionary. I quote: "make an architecture out of these different, unruly, clueless, little, multi-armed, blind cells" yes, that certainly sound like "computers" people can really prove anything these days

  • @theblueflame2221

    @theblueflame2221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pcap8810 You see that more and more in society how words have their definitions changed so incompetents, lunatics and malefactors can have their swindles and harmful ideas injected into the public sphere. With then of course the dire phyiscal consequences soon afterwards.

  • @theblueflame2221

    @theblueflame2221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pcap8810 Delusional being the key word.

  • @edinfific2576
    @edinfific25762 жыл бұрын

    "We don't believe in an intelligent designer. We believe in an intelligent design by natural selection." kind of summarizes it for me.

  • @jmp01a24

    @jmp01a24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then you better prepare for a long wait. Just take a look at his tree of life. lol.

  • @MarttiSuomivuori

    @MarttiSuomivuori

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are making an important point. A system can behave intelligently, even creatively without being conscious. The power or replication, variation, selective pressure, and time is unbelievable. Our problem is the time span. We cannot understand it.

  • @edinfific2576

    @edinfific2576

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think my comment was misunderstood. I sort of poked fun at the statement. In some ways, it is self-contradictory for an atheist because of the word "believe". At the same time, it recognizes the intelligent design but refuses to acknowledge the intelligent creator, i.e. God, and rather choses to believe in self-creation or deaf, dumb and blind Nature's intelligence, even though the Nature itself is merely a composition of forces set in motion.

  • @essoblue9288
    @essoblue92882 жыл бұрын

    A computer in it's own right. It's got it's own video equipment, dreams. You watch it as it's being made up while sleeping. You concentrate the mind behind the eyelids as you start to go into a sleep the pictures start to come to the front. The quality of the picture is better than what we produce digitally. Copy and paste dreams that can be a mashup that's been taken in over time from the surroundings. Creating a computer to mimic the brain, but taken further. Software, hard drive, memory, sharing information, storing information. Ways of getting around the cons of the brain. We are starting to make sense of our makeup (Big things come in small packages), atoms, energy, protons, neutrons, electrons and so on. The computer being an extension of the minds computer.

  • @YagamiKou
    @YagamiKou2 жыл бұрын

    as subnautica once said "your species still see's a difference between biology and technology?" they are 2 different sides of a spectrum where the biggest difference is just complexity and eventually a difference in the *scale* of complexity becomes a difference in the *kind* of complexity

  • @arminkleinemas128
    @arminkleinemas1284 жыл бұрын

    the alan turing joke reminds me about a other joke the cooking recept for a cake First you have to make a univers then wait around 14 billion years then harvest grain, breeding cows milking patorization . . .. . you get the point ^^

  • @allypoum
    @allypoum6 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Dennett; always brilliant, always entertaining and surprising.

  • @happygilmore9148
    @happygilmore91485 жыл бұрын

    The brain is like a computer, however the nervous system is what drastically influences how the many functions of the brain reacts to and stored information. The muscles are also store houses for memory and experiences as well. The nerve endings connects to the ligaments and tendons which ultimately influence the actions of the muscles. It's all very neat and satisfying to learn more about.

  • @juhanleemet

    @juhanleemet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think you are wrong so called "muscle memory" is likely in the cerebellum and maybe partially the spinal cord, but not the muscles themselves.

  • @abnormalzoneLOL
    @abnormalzoneLOL4 жыл бұрын

    If brain is computer, then the consciousness is software which is constantly updated by knowledge and experiences until hard drive crashes and computer dies.

  • @djw457
    @djw4576 жыл бұрын

    There was a lot of well thought out stuff in this talk, I think he's onto something. I've never been convinced by the Chalmer's declaration that consciousnesses was the hard problem.

  • @sasonilha3988
    @sasonilha39885 жыл бұрын

    wise man. .. and here I was thinking all this time that 'philosophy' is a mere mumbo jumbo, convinced I was based on not very good high school teacher ... but this here is something completely different. ... it's like a creation of a way and through a rough forest; when you see it. you use it for it's been done well. ! hm

  • @lenn939

    @lenn939

    4 жыл бұрын

    That’s exactly what philosophy is supposed to be. Just clear, rational thinking.

  • @marc.lepage
    @marc.lepage2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Professor Dennett.

  • @celestialmedia2280
    @celestialmedia22802 жыл бұрын

    Great session sir 👍🏼

  • @yoshtg
    @yoshtg5 жыл бұрын

    if you look at twitch chat when 20,000 people are watching a stream and around 100 of them are typing in the chat at the same time the chat also kinda behaves like a brain. and the memes that result out of it which often come seemingly out of nowhere can be compared to what richard dawkings ment when he used the term meme

  • @oldman9924

    @oldman9924

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know where meme's come from, aliens

  • @john-r-edge
    @john-r-edge4 жыл бұрын

    Fred Hoyle did coin the phrase "Big Bang" in a BBC radio interview. But he preferred a different cosmological model, "the Steady State". He used the phrase "Big Bang" in order to oppose and dismiss those who believed in a creation moment. So most ironic that he coined a great meme for something he did not believe in.

  • @caioadao1863

    @caioadao1863

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fred Hoyle is deist not atheist.

  • @Clavers1369
    @Clavers13692 жыл бұрын

    A big difference between human brains and artificial computers is that brains can generate their own data input through imagination etc. Computers can only receive input from an external controller.

  • @timminh468

    @timminh468

    2 жыл бұрын

    yet...

  • @juhanleemet

    @juhanleemet

    2 жыл бұрын

    We don't really understand how brains can "generate their own data" (hallucination? random variation?) and there is nothing intrinsically to prevent computers from generating similar variations. We know how to make pretty good (not perfect) random number generators, and can use (truly random physical) electrical "noise"

  • @abcde_fz
    @abcde_fz2 жыл бұрын

    Funny thing about Rand and Friedman. Neither of them told us what we must do, they described what we should do in order to have a society that's built on mutual cooperation, while still dealing with the fact that there IS competition in nature, including human nature. Whether Dennett realizes it or not, human nature is to compete first, and cooperate second. But there's a balance between the two that leads to society benefiting from fair competition, instead of governments attempting to control that competition. Some people are simply better at one thing than another. When a group of people find that balance where, between them, they do the most good for the most people, by taking advantage of the various talents people have, that balance *IS* capitalism. When governments begin to meddle in the affairs of those groups of people that have come to a satisfactory arrangement of bartering between themselves, (which will always lead to the creation of a medium of exchange), that meddling *IS* attempting centralized control of the economy.

  • @retrofuturist7
    @retrofuturist7 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love your content guys ❤️ Especially this one!!

  • @TheRoyalInstitution

    @TheRoyalInstitution

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! We're so happy you enjoyed it

  • @stevesteady603
    @stevesteady6036 жыл бұрын

    The natural selection of dank memes

  • @Sentientism
    @Sentientism2 жыл бұрын

    The sense that "I feel too special to 'just be physics' has a lot to answer for". Once we get over our anthropocentric arrogance, things become much clearer - and maybe even more awesome than the "magic" some others prefer.

  • @GodwynDi

    @GodwynDi

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think anyone who says that is a lot less impressed by physics than they should be.

  • @Sentientism

    @Sentientism

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GodwynDi Indeed!

  • @yuganderu5645
    @yuganderu56455 жыл бұрын

    WOW! WHAT A QUESTION!!

  • @iiiDartsiii
    @iiiDartsiii5 жыл бұрын

    omg Darwin is still alive :O

  • @erichschinzel6486

    @erichschinzel6486

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hmmmm

  • @newforestpixie5297

    @newforestpixie5297

    2 жыл бұрын

    “ 6 million years “ ...the Doctor has enjoyed 6 million Beers for sure 😃

  • @rfvtgbzhn
    @rfvtgbzhn4 жыл бұрын

    48:28 This is true, but as far as I know, there was no increase after about 1970 and now there is a decline. Also part of he increase is because the American School system is optimized to score good at IQ tests. People are smarter now than 100 years ago in every western country, but the results in the US are exaggerated because of the American believe that you can measure smartness with a single number that can be measured in a short test. The increase is lower than in other states which don't emphasize IQ tests so much, although the average educational level (if measured by other measures than IQ tests) is better in most other western countries than in the US (mainly because the public schools in the US are underfunded, except in very wealthy areas).

  • @0Metatron

    @0Metatron

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes like you say maybe people are just taught how to specifically pass IQ tests rather than becoming more intelligent per say

  • @zagyex
    @zagyex6 жыл бұрын

    Something to think of, and it is paradoxical: How hard is it to define those simple rules that lead to growing complexity of arrangement in matter in a self-replicating manner? We certainly didn't manage to define such laws yet. And we saw it happen only once- as there is no evidence yet that life has emerged more than once in the universe. But here is the most disturbing bit: Imagine the early self-replicating arrangement of matter in the early times - it was some really basic stuff like amino acids or whatnot. Later some bacteria or some other simple stuff. You would imagine that you need very many head starts to reach something like the human brain. But there were no head starts - only one. And those 'simple' rules, say algorithms were not only able to create basic stuff then halt. We see no instances of self replication UP TO a certain complexity than stop. But no, the simple rules were so good for the first try that there is no stopping. It must mean that those "simple rules" are extremely powerful.

  • @5dragoninerie350
    @5dragoninerie3502 жыл бұрын

    is your brain a computer? NO! it's a brain!

  • @World_Theory
    @World_Theory5 жыл бұрын

    This seems like a beneficial video to watch, for beginners in crafting neural networks. And even a useful thing for the more experienced practitioners, just to get the creative juices going.

  • @emo-sup-sock

    @emo-sup-sock

    2 жыл бұрын

    This does not even touch the subject of neural networks in the machine learning sense

  • @LesleighHart
    @LesleighHart4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the upload. A real noodle cruncher.

  • @uncletrashero
    @uncletrashero2 жыл бұрын

    The hardware doesnt really change, but the hardware itself has high plasticity built in, so the software tells the hardware how to adjust itself. The software is a self-building recursive software which is also high in plasticity, "learning" is the software's self-restructuring process continuously account for new Data added to its memory. The act of gaining knowledge is not the same as learning. Gaining knowledge only requires observation and memory. Learning is a process that happens After and separate to the changes in memory of observations. and separately you also have a memory space specifically dedicated to remembering the different states of knowledge/data and different states of "understanding" that the software goes through over time (remembering THAT your thinking changed, and remembering that you once knew you DIDNT know something, and remembering that you "learned" something is actually remembering that there was a point in time when your "understanding" of a subject CHANGED at some point. Additionally there is a dedicated memory space for your "understandings" which are the repeatedly tested and accepted (by your software) interpretations of observations that ultimately became "learned" so if you want the analogy, its like you were born with software that acts as an operating system, and that software is designed to Seek UPDATES. It reaches out for observations, puts them in one memory space. then compares that to other observations while saving temporary files in the "learning" memory space, then eventually saves a Copy of the significant moments during the "learning" process in a "Understanding" memory space. observations also include the signals coming from the brain hardware itself ABOUT itself. and after the software learns things about the hardware, the hardware can attempt to modify itself to fit new needs

  • @thejimmyjimmy3127
    @thejimmyjimmy31272 жыл бұрын

    the first words...so true...science is one of the humanities. Meaning it is one of the things that makes us "human" and not animals. The fact that we(some of us...okay a few of us...more like a handful) want to understand and find whats best and correct according to facts based on theories and observations that have been tested and can be proven and reproduced. Word....

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