Extremely informative video Dave! This is a great reference for anyone considering purchasing this card. Once I hit the lotto and purchase the 52 I'll be referring back to this for sure! Thanks for sharing!!

What a great production, appreciate the effort put into this. Thanks for sharing

@mohawkgaming8788

4 жыл бұрын

Hey pepino...I've watched a few of your vids...your funny and have a great collection...I like the vid were you caught the thief...anyway check out silverjacks vid of his 52 Mantle...it's in a psa holder but the back has all the fake markings...

What an unbelievably informative video; Dave your videos are a HUGE asset to the collecting community!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark

Certainly not in the market for one, but a great reference. Thanks for taking the time to put it together, well done!

Thanks so much Dave! Such valuable information for our community!

Great educational video Dave. Thanks for putting this together.

First off Dave this video was incredible!!!!! Super important information for anyone that ever wants to purchase a 52 Mantle. I didn't realize that there were that many differences between type 1 and type 2. Its all in the details!!!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge Dave!!!!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I actually get things mixed up between the 2 myself sometimes

One of the most informative videos I've seen in a long time, thanks so much for giving us all of this info...even if the card will rarely be in people's affordable range.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the views and comments!!!

Just an outstanding education Dave. I love it!! Someday when I buy a ‘52 Mantle, this will be my guide.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike Ps I’m really going thru the cards in that collection of your friends you inquired about. We’ll chat soon about it

Incredible video Dave! Learned a lot! Thank you!

Great Info! I just hope that sometime in my life I will have to put this information to use!

Very informative video brother. Thanks for taking the time to show us the differences.

Tremendous video! Incredible! So many little nuances to notice.

vert educational...great job and thanks for informing us Dave!

Great video. Very informative. I've heard many of these facts before but you really simplified it. Good stuff!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thank Jeff, I appreciate that

Thanks for sharing your knowledge,Dave!!

Great video! You have opened my eyes to things I was not aware of besides the dark marks on the bat. Someday I plan to buy this card and this video will be a major help thank-you

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dean

A must watch video for anyone interested in buying a 52 Topps Mantle. Great video, I had no idea there were 2 types let alone all of the things to look for. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Very informative! I had no idea of these traits. Thank you for taking the time to show this to everyone! This card is obviously the holy grail and I hope to just see one in person someday let alone own one. I bought a porcelain special edition reprint when I was 11, I still have it. That’s probably the closest I’ll come. Again thank you for putting this together

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks sir subscribing and viewing ryan

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan

Awesome video & content. Grrreat training, educational video. I thank thee, Dave for sharing all...

very thorough and informative. dont know that i'll ever own one, but now will know how to spot the fakes. thanks!

Great Job again Dave. I was watching that ESPN shorts of the conterfit autos in the late 90s. Insane.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I bought a lot of fb autos in 90s- I’m sure 80% bad. Even today autos are easily faked. I’d even worry about a slabbed one if it was expensive

While this card is out of my realm I thank you for the wonderful education...I love to learn and this was fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing! I now want to go and search one of these out just to look at it. Again...thank you so much!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I’d imagine 99.9 % of slabbed 52 Mantles are ok. It’s the raw ones you better be sure about

@GoodfellasNYC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 good evening sir. I have a type 2 rookie card and everything you are saying here is accurate. But what about the flashlight test? I lit it up and I can see the back of the card. Is that considered fake? Thanks

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodfellasNYC remember a photocopy will have all the correct markings and attributes. Beyond that you have to compare the card stock and feel to other 1952 cards. Do the colors look right, does the print look right under a loupe…

@GoodfellasNYC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 the colors look right. Looks original to me but not sure.

@GoodfellasNYC

2 жыл бұрын

Would it be to much trouble to ask if I can email you a picture of the card? Thank you

Excellent video my friend, wow, I had no clue. Thank you very much, that cards is every collectors dream, well done. 👍👍

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

Thanks For Educating The Community Dave Valuable Information Shared.

Very thorough and informative. Great explanation. Interesting even though I'll never be able to afford one.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t have on either!

Great video, Dave. Thanks for sharing this info. It is disconcerting that such an easy to identify fake could end up slabbed by a major TPG...

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I think it’s very very rare Andrew. In fact I’d wager that 99.9 % of fake cards in slabs..... ARE IN FAKE SLABS!!!!! There is some very very scary stuff that’s been coming out of Mexico for years. High end stuff in fake PSA slabs.

@nufcedcards

5 жыл бұрын

A good reminder for us all to carefully inspect anything we consider buying, thoroughly research the cards and become as knowledgeable as possible, and share info like this...

This is an amazingly informative video! I will never own this card, but it sure was interesting to learn about it. Thanks!

Great job Dave. Love low tech. I grew up on it! Lol. Thank you!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, thanks!

Hey I comment on most of your videos and I really enjoy them all but, I want to let you know my favorite video was on the altered Gehrig, not because of that particular AMAZING card but because of the teaching and insight you share. NOW, this video is right there with the "altered Gehrig vid" as my fav. Keep doing what you do. Thanks

Excellent Video ! this is the perfect thing for prospective buyers. It will also get a TON of views and hits inside and outside the community. I just hope the people producing fakes don’t learn from their mistakes.

Even though I'll never own a "real" version, I do thank you for the very thorough video. I never knew there were two different types. I was looking at my 1983 reprint of this card as I was watching this and found it possesses some of the differing traits from both types, as well as none of the traits. Great job with this video!

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments Happy collecting

@GoodfellasNYC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 Good evening, this video is extremely informative. I have a type 2 ungraded that was given to me 30 years ago. What about a light test on the type 2. Does that apply or work? Just asking because even though my card is exactly like your video, does it mean it's authentic? Thanks

Great, informative video. Haven't had the pleasure of owning a 52 Mantle, but this would certainly make sure that I get a genuine card. Thanks!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Larry!

@BLM_Big_Lipped_Marxist

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, How can I tell the difference between original and reprint of Mickey 1952 #311. Both look identical. Plz help. Thnx. 🤗

This is awesome. Although I'll never be in a position to have to know this. Lol. Great video Dave. Your knowledge never ceases to impress me.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been around awhile. I know a little about a few things and nothing about most!

Man awesome video great information thanks for posting this

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Mark

Very good information dave. I enjoy your content. Thanks for sharing.

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you I made the parts on backs confusing as both back versions are authentic, just different depending on the front type

Wow some great info Dave!!

Great video. Hopefully I can put it to work someday!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great research, Professor Dave !! Geart video not that I will ever own one. LOL

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I own less than 1% of things I know about and I’m sure I know less than 1% of thing there are to know. We’re all on same boat

very informative! felt like I was in a class.Thank You!

@Bluejacket66

Жыл бұрын

👍

Just watching this for the first time today. Really good stuff- And I would've been able to tell JY's was a reprint this way!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil..... I think the real test is holding the card in hand. Thankfully most these cards are graded

@davidlefever2205

4 жыл бұрын

Question. Is the back the same on both versions. I've been told they are different on both. I'm looking to purchase one for investment, but see so many psa graded with the backs that are what this video says a fake. I really appreciate someone like you looking out for true collectors, please clarify the back so I really know what to look for. Thanks again for this awesome video

Great and very informative video. Best that I've seen yet.

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks John

Thanks for another great video Dave

Excellent informative video! Thanks for sharing!

I don’t plan on ever being able to afford this card but the amount of info in this video is awesome! I have shared with many of my friends in the hobby! I have learned so much from watching your videos over the past few months. Your collecting prowess is way above mine but I get to enjoy these cards through you as if they were my own. Keep on keeping on, good stuff! And I’m a St. Louis guy as well. 👍🏻

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much I guess there’s a couple shown in stl in April One at the machinist Hall on the Rock Road

@mjhaynes1021

5 жыл бұрын

Bluejacket 66 Yes there is, that one is the 3 day show, usually a pretty good one 👍🏻 Lots of vintage at the ones there. I’ll probably try to go one day. Let me know if you go, I know a couple guys from STL who love your videos, would be cool to meet up!

Thank you for the awesome info, did not know at least now I do.

glad to to know this information !!!!

I don't care what other videos come to screen in 2019, this will be the standout for me. Thank you for imparting your knowledge for the benefit of the uninformed.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Very kind, thank you

Thanx Dave great video doubt I'll ever be able to afford one but great references

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

That’s the point! Thanks Michael

Dude this is great!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks Derrick. Sub and tell your friends

Another great video I hope it helps someone. I was at a card show in Cincinnati today for a little while and I heard two teenagers talking about this blue jacket guy on you tube. That officially makes you Mick Jagger (a rock star)

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I’m not that old!!!! Haha

Great video Dave. Watched this a few times and did a Ebay search. Some of the type 2 Mantles in PSA slabs have creases conveniently on the white pixel. I am curious to know if those were fake PSA slabs in your video. You would think PSA would be well aware of the tell tale signs for the 1952 Mantle.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

There are fake PSA slab/ flips out there And I have no idea how to spot them. Yes, people will age and crease a fake 52 so you can tell if the pixel is missing

Great info, thanks!

Awesome vid. thanks

I have a type 2 that matches every characteristic described in the video. When inspecting the card, what pixel traits are the standard? I understand some of the black borders should be solid, while the colors are pixelated. Are there pictures of a verified true 52 of the pixel characteristics?

Sweet video. Doubt id ever be in the position to purchase one but its good info to know.

Nice information .. really appreciate your efforts .. keep it up🙏

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking in

The common practice of fakes is to have paper worn at key places on the card like the missing pixel locations. There is a Mantle like this on eBay right now.

@Bluejacket66

Жыл бұрын

That’s a little trick they play to try hide a fake

Awesome job

Awesome video , I was just looking at a listing on EBay for an extremely off centered and beat up RC but the back is way off, the arrows go right to left and the S's line up with the H ..Thank you for saving me alot of cash

I have a type one, would u look at it and let me know if its worth sending off to be authenticated. It passes all your type one test plus feels to be the same material when i have compared it to other 52 cards. Doesnt glow with a blacklight and a flashlight wont shine threw it all ways i seen to spot a fake card online.

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

Lightningshack25@gmail.com

Absolutely an amazing video! I want to get a 52 Mantle someday and I really appreciate this.

I checked mine out and it looks like its a type 2, but I was also told there is another way to tell if its fake, by using a flash light. shining it on the back and if you see the stat print, then its either a reprint or a fake. Is that true? This can be very confusing.

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

Idk I do know some fake cards will allow More light thru them when held up to a flashlight

Amazing video thank you

How might I send you a few photos to help me determine my card is the real deal or fake?

incredible video and knowledge

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nolan

Great video!!! I think we have a type 2 winner!!!!

If you could please help me out I inherited an entire complete set of this 1952 cards and I have this Mickey Mantle card with like I think there's like a thousand other cards too the set is complete and the binder that it's in is a 1952 Topps binder. What should I do or who should I contact

@Bluejacket66

7 ай бұрын

Sure, send me some pics to lightningshack25@gmail.com

Best 17 minutes ever invested in baseball card collecting!

What a great tutorial!!!

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Karen... it’s not perfect but I think it helps

I read that the "h" lines up with both "s" and the seam goes right to left on the Type 1 back and the Type 2 back is what you described here. Is this true? Thank you.

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Correct. I really messed up explanation on backs making one of them sousing fake

I have this card definitely type 1 as you described, it is in fair shape. Is there anything else I need to know about the card and how do I go about having it graded or do I even bother I would love to send you some pics if possible thanks

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

I would grade it faith PSA or SGC. Their websites have instructions and the proper forms. Any 52 topps mantle should be graded

i see type 2 card reprints with everything looking good!

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Here’s the thing... you can photocopy a authentic 52 mantle and everything will look “ good”. Nothing trumps seeing the card in person, looking at the print with a loupe... feeling it etc. would never ever buy one raw without holding it and examining it for sure

I just bought a 1952 Mickey Mantle card and I believe its a type 2, now that I know its fake, is this card STILL worth something? Thanks for your help.

Have no words. Seen this twice because its that good. I did not know there are two versions. Is there a price difference between two? If so, how many people have paid T1 price and got a T2. Great, great video. Thanks for the info.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

No price difference. I prefer the type 1 with full border around the logo.

What about the color letters in the back of the card? For example, what color are the red letters supposed to be? Mines seem darker. Thanks

@Bluejacket66

Жыл бұрын

Should be pretty bold red. I suppose there could be subtle difference. I’d compare to known real copies

@GoodfellasNYC

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 would it be to much trouble to ask if you could please review my type 2mantle??

Now this was a very nice learning experience! Is there two types of authentic cards because it was a double printed card? A different print run? Excellent video, thank you for sharing the knowledge!

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I think there were 2 print runs. I would guess type 2 was second run but idk. I’d guess plate was screwed up on second printing but idk

@bigmacfanatic25

5 жыл бұрын

One more question. Is one type more rare or valuable than the other?

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

No same values

Dave, great video! Why is it that you only covered the back of a type 2? I think people will be confused by watching your video on a type 1 since the back is very different versus what you showed (type 2)

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

ThAts why I edited to ignore my portion on the back... it didn’t come off right and ended up being confusing . I shouldn’t have mention backs as they can be very difficult

@SilverJackify

5 жыл бұрын

Bluejacket 66 Ok got it. Sorry, must have missed that. Just also wanted to make sure you agreed that was a type 2 back.

What’s the price difference between type 1and 2 if they both are authentic?????

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Same price

Very educational. Thanks! TYPE 1 definitely the better looking card overall, but I’m guessing Type 2 is rarer.

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Really no price difference between the two. I prefer the type 1 as well

Thank you for this informative video. How can I get in touch with you, as I have a few questions.

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

Lightningshack25@gmail Ig @bluejacket66

another question: everything said about the back are you saying you were off on the information?

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Yes one back is correct for type 1 and the other back type was correct for type 2. I made it confusing

Wow what a video major 👍

Dave, are the backs supposed to be the same on Type1 vs Type2?

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

Different stitch directions and different right border letter alignments. My description of backs made it sound like one was fake, but it’s just difference between types

Hey! I have a type 2 and I think it is authentic. Would you take a look at it for me?

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Sure... there’s other considerations. How it feels, the print dot matrix under loupe etc

Im confused? So their were 2 type of this card when it was produced? Type 1 and type 2? So you can have 2 types of authentic mantles? Or does the type 2 mean it's a fake card period?

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

No there are 2 styles of 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle .... Type 1 and Type 2. The videos intent was to show the distinguishing features of each. They are very similar except the differences I showed No difference in value between the 2 types

@sycardbreaks2745

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 they are both authentic cards then... correct...

@Bluejacket66

4 жыл бұрын

Syed Ahmed ... yep

Thanks for your time Sr

Both authentic type 1 and type 2 have differences in the front, what about the back?

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

The backs are different in the way the stitching points in the ball, and how the lettering lines up on the right hand side of the card. I tried to explain it but made it sound like one way was fake... which is I correct. I outlined the 2 different backs in the video. Disregard and commentary that indicates one back is fake. Backs are just different in type 1 and 2

is there a difference between type I and II on the back or are both versions the same?

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

They are different That why I eliminated that part discussion- I made it confusing

@howardwidener7349

4 жыл бұрын

My question also

The grading services have no way to reliably scan the cardboard paper and inks to ensure proper 1952 dating?....before slabbing? Pretty much any lab could do that. PSA and SGC don’t utilize this tech?

Does the missing pixel only appear on the second variant?

@Bluejacket66

25 күн бұрын

Correct

Thanks for this information

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

👍

assuming the type 1 is more desirable?

@Bluejacket66

Жыл бұрын

No difference. Some may prefer one over the other I guess

Dave was the type II a second print run and if so, how come it is different did they re-layout the card?

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

I have no idea Gary! My dad was a 52 Topps guy but I know very little about the Set

@garycarrock5915

5 жыл бұрын

I would love to know the process of printing those cards back in the day. I worked for a printer many years ago and the types of errors that would occur were usually ink loss and over runs like the missing dot and the extended corners. There was always the same plate used unless it got destroyed somehow. Which may have been the case in the type II differences. Having two types makes me wonder if there was three types?

@garycarrock5915

5 жыл бұрын

I did some reading on the high series and it appears that both type I and type II were printed from the same plate as a double print. Interesting that there would be differences on the same plate.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t make sense..... but I surely don’t know the answer

@garycarrock5915

5 жыл бұрын

By the way Dave, great video! It got me hyped up on the 1952 set again. I am going to dig out my 2001 Tuff Stuff magazine and reread the article about the dumping of the high series cards in the ocean around 1960.

Thank you so much for video I almost bid on a fale one on ebay. The bidding is up to $315. 1day and 9 hours left.

@Bluejacket66

5 жыл бұрын

Paul I would never bid on a raw 52 mantle on eBay..... never. Even if it passes the eye test. I would still need to feel it and look at it under a loupe.

@71fluffdaddy

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that info buddy. Extremely helpful.

How do they end up in real graded holders?

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

That is very very rare. Even if that’s the case it may be the holder was fake or tampered with

I just seen a mantle sale that has the total opposite of what this vid shows. It was sealed & certified authentic. Stitching on ball went the opposite way and the h lined up with the S’s

@Bluejacket66

3 жыл бұрын

See title which says “ignore commentary on back. “ Stitching and letter alignment differs in type 1 and 2. I do not make that clear

@_NEW3RA_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 gotcha

Now i can perfectly replicate an authentic fake, thanks bro

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck reproducing the print dot matrix and card stock bro, yeesh

@alexsimonll4914

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bluejacket66 this was a joke metaphorically speaking. Easy bro lol

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexsimonll4914 I have no sense of humor!!!🤣

Im sure that if any counterfeit came across PSA when they 1st started grading that they pass without any detection. Meaning there are some graded fakes out there.

@Bluejacket66

6 ай бұрын

True I’m sure

Thank you for this video. My husband and I bought a Topps 1952 Mickey Mantle at a yardsale, everything about the card seems real. Is there a way I could send you some pictures to get your opinion on the card.

@Bluejacket66

2 жыл бұрын

Lightningshack25@gmail