Thank you Mark, for your introduction. Despite this situation with Covid-19, I have paid for the Advanced Rider Course, ordered a new copy of the Highway Code and Iam determined to become a better, safer and more technical rider as soon as it's possible to do so. Cheers

I'm a class 1 HGV driver and have been for about 300yrs. So hopefully I know a few things. 2016 I had a big off on my bike all by myself. Wrong mood wrong position wrong gear and wrong speed when a Hare the size of a buffalo ran out in front of me. Cartwheeling through the air I realized this is going to effing hurt. It. did. Moving on a friend of mine asked if I wanted to learn how to ride properly once I got back in the saddle. Did my advanced (First) last year and I'm doing my masters next month. The best thing I've done by miles. I love the challenge of it the self analysis the real satisfaction. I'd recommend either code to everyone. Keep it on the black people.

Nice insights Mark. I came back to the bike after many years and signed up for IAM at Motorcycle Live last year, £99 - a steal IMHO. I'm onto my 9th observed ride now. In our group you get a different observer every time, and on my channel if anyone wants a chuckle at my riding skills! I've been helped greatly by SeaFlyFisher who rode professionally and has done many observes for me, but also analyses my film with detailed feedback. He's done a series of MasterClass videos on his YT site which may be of interest. They are the best 'how to' training films I've seen, and he's a great bloke. Hates hi-vis though ;-)

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

thanks for the kind words buddy. Looks like your doing well and your channel is great too.

@Back2TheBike

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I get to make all my mistakes in public but hoping the journey encourages people to subscribe to advanced training.

Thank you Mark for the video. I'm from N. Ireland presently stuck in New Zealand 'cause of Covid-19. No International flights home yet. To put the time in I have been improving my motorbike skills. I have been given the use of a Honda st1300 and so I approached a local IAM group. I went out with them for a couple of 'social rides' and today I had my first Observation ride, one-to-one. I thoroughly enjoyed and learned from the experience. I met with 15 other bikers in a cafe this morning; 8 Observers & 8 Associates. They paired us off and we all went on different routes. My observer Stephen took me on a variety of roads which included town traffic, rural farming areas and some beautiful NZ mountainous twisties! We were out for 3hrs! Weather was mainly low sun, some rain, wet underfoot and windy. I've been riding for over 30yrs and I did learn some things today. I am grateful for the experience of being judged, I am humbled by the fact that these observers give up their own time to help others & I am shattered, (just need to sleep), because of the concentration required. :-) Everyone should experience this.

Refreshing, valid opinions and not really on a high horse. I'm IAM trained but even after that KZread provides additional and enlightening information to help in safer riding. I ride anytime and any season but riding in the dark is still tiring due to additional concentration, a skill never taught to make it more relaxing, especially when roads are getting less maintained and vehicle lighting brighter and dazzling. Any nugget of new information or skill is always useful to refresh riding habits. Keep the videos coming.

Myself and my wife are members of iam. Both of us have benefited greatly from the group. My wife achieved a first and has begun her masters training. I will start my observer training this week. Im also a Das instructor. It’s helped me develop my lessons.

@RiderCamTV

5 жыл бұрын

thats great Paul, congrats to you both on those achievements... its great isn't it? add so much to a ride! Ride safe and best of luck with the observing and masters :)

@reasonsvoice8554

4 жыл бұрын

This is the reason I'm looking at it I'm thinking about a change and think I would enjoy being a instructor I've been riding 20 years and am only a rider never had car lessons or really want them I'll just need to calm down daily ride being a fireblade probably doesn't help or starting off on 2 strokes 😂

Just starting my IAM course and loving it , for me it's about honing my skills and hopefully go on to teach myself 👍👍👍

Great video Mark, passed my IAM in May (first) after returning to bikes from 16/17 year lay off, kids mortgage blah blah blah decided I owed it to myself and my family to be as safe as I could be so enrolled with IAM so pleased I did the course and test. Also want to reap the benefits of thirty years finally salary pension and retire to your part of the country 😬 safe riding 👍🏻

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

clive evans lets us know when you get down here. Ride safe.

@jimmain2924

5 жыл бұрын

clive evans well said mate. After 25 yrs away from a bike and four yrs out of the job I’m back on two wheels and signed up for my IAM training. Ride safe.

Thanks for sharing your Bike Ride to show 'how it's done' thus providing the Viewer with a better understanding of advanced rider techniques to promote progress and safety. Good to see IPSGA discussed too. As an Advanced Motorist I'm a Member of both IAMRoadsmart and RoSPA and recommend both Organisations. I think re-testing is beneficial to keep check. Yes, there needs to be some changes but even so, 'Knowledge is Power' and these Courses are designed to better educate anyone willing to learn. Persevere, stay safe, save lives and enjoy the freedom of the open road.

Information you shared is superb and quickly added to my favorites. I watched this video three times and paid attention to your speed, Corning, and positioning in the lane. Keep rambling on Marc, 😂 you are filled with helpful riding knowledge 👍 From San Antonio, TX. Be safe 🙏

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Carl G. Thanks Carl praise indeed. Ride safe.

Hi I've just bought an IAM course and I just wanted to say a quick "Thank you" for letting me know what to expect.

Thanks for this Mark - I'm about to have my assessment/first ride in a week. Interesting video and to hear your thoughts as an observer.

you explained it better than anyone i've met, i wish some had the enthusiasm you had. i usd to call then tank fillers, in it for the petrol and glory.

Anyone who rides a bike and thinks they won’t learn anything on an advanced course are the sort of rider that I won’t ride with. Seen far too many “ I know how to ride and you can’t teach me anything “ riders. Love it when they get put in their place by an advanced rider

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words Darren. I see it as a bit of a challenge to change peoples perception of advanced riders so will ride with anyone. Stay safe.

@darrenelbrow5144

6 жыл бұрын

RiderCamTV I have friends who aren’t advanced trained that I ride with, but we all have sensible heads . We ride fast sometimes, but know when to behave as well. I’ve been a blood bike rider and was a copper for 14 years, so I do like to get home in one piece

@2wheelsrbest327

3 жыл бұрын

@@darrenelbrow5144 Darren I am someone like your friends not advanced but with a sensible head. Sadly tried both courses over the years but I just seem to meet many advanced observers who had big ego's. I also didn't want to have to please one person on one particular day. Not knocking either course but clearly not for me !

Great video. I've just had a day on a geared bike, for the second time ever, doing my CBT. I really enjoyed it but found it very overwhelming, with everything to think about. I shall be going out next week, training for DAS. Once I pass my test I shall sign up with ROSPA, as I want to learn as much as I can.

Thanks Mark, that is a great Video and explains the whole structure accurately for new associates. Sorry I only just came across it 2 years after you published. Ive recently subscribed to your channel and I must say that you and Toby give very informative content. Like you, I enjoy the "technical aspect of the system" Your videos inspire people of all ages. You have inspired this mature IAM trained Motorbike rider and DVSA Car Driving Instructor. Keep up the great work on your videos and ride safe.

@markholroyd5365

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant news Richard. Ride safe

Great video, this has made me feel very encouraged to take the next step and put in to be an associate...thanks 👍👍

Brilliant video. I need to get on one of these. Work just gets in the way

Appreciate your open ride-along chat about this! I often ride with extremely advanced riders, though I on a R1200GS with ADV tires, they on expensive road race models that have been further enhanced with performance parts and top level DOT tires... Riding near my limit, careful yet observant, I have found my higher level riding skills improving quite markedly... Having said this, I think, ongoing Rider Education is something every rider should consider every so often as time and finances allow... I've attended only one half day course a little over a year ago with a professional level, older rider - I found some of the information VERY helpful and enhancing to my riding performance, comfort and longevity... Much thanks for your expressions!

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. Ride safely and within your limits not others...

Went the IAM route a few years back, learnt an awful lot and would recommend IAM and ROSPA training to anybody and enjoy my riding far more now, plus I’ve made a lot of friends through the social side.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Chukky thanks for the kind words. Stay safe.

Good video Mark i am currently taking my I.A.M In Somerset And unfortunately the Lock Down has put a temporary halt to things. keep up the good work with the Observing and your work with the Blood Bikes To

I agree there are still advanced riders that are well passed their best before date. Some who had taken their test many years ago. Further that some of the practises and procedures learned and advised then having changed but they have not kept pace with them and if they are still training they are training to an old and obsolete manual.

I very much enjoyed this video and thank you for making it.

As a recently passed advanced rider , the skills learnt are invaluable and help me when I want to ride progressively but more importantly hopefully may help me avoid an accident I once may not have. BTW I ride a GSA LC and S1000XR and appreciate the power available via my right rist and feel I can use it more effectively. Great videos keep them coming

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Spread the word Clive. Stay safe.

Haha. Well done Mark. You ended this video with my phrase. One I used with every pupil when I was an instructor. "When you set out on your test you have passed, it's up to you if you fail!" Awesome. Keep up the good work.🙂

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Guy Holt cheers Matey.

Many thanks for such an informative presentation.

Some good advice there Mark. I’m about to do my second advanced riding course in Australia on my GS1200. Enjoying it as it’s partially on the track I rode in 1981 when I did the three week police motorcycle course. Never to old too learn or brush up your skills.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Russell, great skills and hats off to you matey, as you say its never too late to update/brush up on skills. Every day is a learning day :) Ride Safe

Really insightful and enjoying the videos. Having passed my DAS few years ago I've not been on bike since. Looking at taking some refresher training to gain confidence and then at some point do some advanced training in future. These certainly help give a mindset. 👍

I've been to Cornwall twice in the last 2 years (Tintagel) and by heck I don't half miss it. I'll be joining RoSPA towards the end of the year when I have more time, I've done my IAM and got a first, but I know I've got a lot of bad habbits again and lost the finese and swan look of my ride (below water going like mad, but totally relaxed on the top). I'll be joining RoSPA due to the retest procedure. And I'll never forget the make or break ride. Observer gave me a right dressing down for an overtake that required a lot of power on a wet road, I knew the bike could handle it but it looked rused and was too close to the limit of the bike for the conditions, and the only thing that stopped me walking away was when we got back to base there was a blood bike there, the reason I was doing it. Turns out the observer knew the rider on the back up bike and asked him to come down as he knew I was close to giving up. After that it just clicked, and I didn't have a bad ride after that. Then I was passed on to a brand new observer, had a few rides with him where he took me massively out of my comfort zone (country rider into the centre of Brum on a Friday evening rush hour) and passed with a first. I found changing my bike from a sportsbike to an RT12 helped massively as well and the observer said I was much more relaxed on it....then I went and got a zzr1400 and the habits have come back too, to a point I very nearly got my collar felt by the police last week, so time for a step back and regroup with RoSPA

@RiderCamTV

5 жыл бұрын

markgr1nyer Brilliant! You will love the RoSPA course. Its the same as IAM in reality but as you say the retest keeps you current. Ride safe.

@markgr1nyer

5 жыл бұрын

@@RiderCamTV i joined rospa a few years ago but there was a personality clash with the mentor so thats why i went with IAM. Be going back now im a bit more mature

That's fantastic thanks.. first hand account of the differences. Definitely like to learn from better riders whether IAM or ROSPA.. although any training is a "licence" which is a privilege not a right..so probably better to do that test every three years. But I'd do either which is close to me/ possible. Thanks for video. Andrew

Top vid, love the roads around Cornwall, that was Perranporth you passed. Done both IAM and RoSPA, preferred RoSPA as I felt it was more 'technical', but regardless of which one you do, it's a must when you pass your bike test.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

The Travelling Triumph Perranporth correct. Ride safe.

Enjoyed that. I’m about half way through my IAM course and have found it both satisfying and frustrating. However, I have learnt a lot about my riding style and where it needed improving. The observed runs are only part of the learning process its the miles you put in between each session that make the difference. Practice and more practice, it’s the only way to learn.

@markholroyd5365

6 жыл бұрын

Edward Leniston the amount of people who don't put in the miles between rides is staggering but you are correct.

Great info. Very helpful. Much appreciated...

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

no probs David, glad you enjoyed it. ride safe

Nice one Mark and you've convinced me to do IAM training.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

HeadhunterUK007 brilliant news. Consider both IAM and RoSpa. Rider safer.

Reason for taking the advanced course was no 2. to ride faster but then qualified that we have to always ride within the speed limit. It doesn't mean that one has to actually exceed the speed limit say 60 mph on a country road but that one could ride well below that speed but still ride too fast and at an inappropriate speed depending on circumstance.. Such as a bend that would be safe say at 40 mph but not at all safe at 45 or 55 mph. Both speeds still within the speed limits but still inappropriate and at an increased risk. This also applies to overtakes where we would fail in the exam if we actually exceeded the speed limit whilst overtaking but might committed to and at an excessive or inappropriate speed anyway but one still below the limit. There is another reason for taking the advanced riding test and that is rarely spoken about to those in charge and that is the the benefit of a life reduction in insurance premiums. particularly with the IAM who I believe do not retest. Lower premiums for life. That's not to be sniffed at. That said I know of several bikers who are advanced riders and did it for that single reason. Some however have not renewed their memberships of such organisations because the cost of that annual renewal was greater than the lower insurance premium. They still get the lower insurance cost but are no longer members.

Hello Mark great video. I love the advice, calm and comfortable way you explain why to ride safe. The landscape is amazing! I would like In which part of England are you riding?

@markholroyd5365

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the really late reply… We are based in Cornwall. Ride safe

Very good summary Mark and I’d say you’d be a natural at the mentor role. One thing I’ve been wondering is why the “speedo reading” instead of the more accurate GPS verified speed? My speedo, like most, reads about 10% under actual speed. The only reason I can think that using gps is frowned upon is lag time. Can’t really see any other reason for not accepting verified gps speed? I intend to start my IAM course this year after wondering if it’s worth it. I’ve been riding 35 years and was taught by an advanced police driver using the Roadcraft manual. I guess you’re never too old to learn new tricks though. Must admit, with age comes an increased sense of self preservation and hazard awareness. It’s slowed me down from my early days for sure but I still make progress. Some things stick with me after all these years and the three main ones are continual hazard observation, the use of vanishing points (some call it converging verges) and the principles of IPSGA. It becomes ingrained to ride and virtually do a silent running commentary about what’s ahead, continually adjusting your riding accordingly. One thing frustrates me when riding with others is occasionally someone just will not overtake slower traffic when safe and will be content to queue. I rode 160 miles a few years back with two guys who refused to cross 40mph which was hugely frustrating. Making swift, smooth and safe progress whilst enjoying the journey is what it’s all about for me. The only thing an observer and I once disagreed on was the use of brakes into tight corner apexes in the dry. I argued that the safest way to corner was to load the front suspension to maximise grip. He argued that it should always be slow in fast out, with all the acceleration done before the bend. I still disagree with that except in wet or adverse conditions or for adverse cambers which you treat a little differently. Keep up the good work Mark👍 You and Toby are the most amiable and personable bikers on You Tube and always have something of interest to say.

Nice video , very interesting.

I recently passed my DAS (With North Coast) after nearly 20 years of driving a car & was astounded at how little i actually knew. I wrongly presumed it would be a breeze & whilst the lockdowns meant it would take 6 months with cancellations etc, i did get there in the end & it has transformed how i act on the road. I still know nothing in the grand scheme of things but i owe my renewed respect for the road to the trainer. I hope to move on to advanced rider training in the Cornwall area if & when things start to return to normal.

@RiderCamTV

3 жыл бұрын

that's brilliant Rylee. We are always learning and we say that when you stop learning it is the time to stop as riding is so fun and we make mistakes and learn from them all the time.. You will love the advanced riding :) check out the Cornwall RoSPA group

@markholroyd5365

3 жыл бұрын

Rylee have a look at the Cornwall RoSPA website. We are starting training again on 12th April. Come on now is the time to get some extra training. Toby and I are both part of the mentoring team. Ride safe

Great video :)

Great video, a course i am definitely going to do. 👍👌

@RiderCamTV

5 жыл бұрын

thanks Nathan. It is, no matter which one you choose, IAM or RoSPA you will have fun and meet a whole group of new people too. Certainly helped me get out there and enjoy the bike with new friends :)

Great video definitely going to be signing up this year which would you recommend

@RiderCamTV

5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff Leigh, you will love it :)

Excellent blog 👍👍

Enjoyable video. What was going on with that van at the entrance to Perran Sands? (27:03) Looked like someone was led in the road.

Mark, thanks very much for sharing your thoughts and comments on this topic. I got a question releated to it. Does it make sense to take this advanced training just after I do my license? Currently I am doing Mod1 and beggining of Sep Mod2 so I was wondering if skills learned during standard training (that will allow me to pass the exam for A licence) are "enough" to start on the advanced training? I assume if its good enough to grant me a license it theoretically should be enough for this as well, but from the practicall point of view, I guess it would mean a lot more work from the Observer side on the basics to get them up to speed to the level of someone who already rides for a while. Or is it just my perception? What are you thoughts on this topic?

@RiderCamTV

5 жыл бұрын

He Michal, thanks for the comments and the question. I'd spend a few weeks getting to grips with the riding after your initial test,, although there is no bad time to start the advanced training, as it would stop bad habits creeping in (we all have them) and start you on the journey to more enjoyment. I would get hold of your local group and pop along to see them if they do open days (like they do in Cornwall) where you can meet the observers and chat to someone so that they know your skill level and can advise you accordingly. Youll find a great group of people that will help you with all aspects of your riding, and as you say may mean a few more observed rides but if there are no bad habits to iron out, theoretically it should be easier in some ways to guide you in the right direction for advanced riding. You will love it.... you could also have a look on line for your local BIKE SAFE which is run by the police which would give you a practical insight into the advanced riding... but eveyone is there to help no matter what your experience level is, its all about riding safely and having maximum enjoyment at the same time.... best of luck

Very good points, please get more young riders into the course.

@markholroyd5365

3 жыл бұрын

I wish we could. Ride safe

Mark you and I need to have a chat about the DVSA test to give you a better understanding methinks. Suffice to say it's a lot better than what you and I ever did (ride around the block) 😎

Hi Mark excellent video totally agree with what you have said, passed my IAM test in 2002 best thing I did, made me a far better rider. Still learning though, every time I go out. Just for interest, love your new bike, any idea of fuel consumption? My GS TE standard according to the trip and gauge says 58 to the gallon mostly (how I ride anyway) looking at the GSA next. Good stuff excellent channel.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

thanks Johnny. Glad that the training has helped. every day is a learning day indeed. The fuel consumption for the new bike is great, along the lines of the old one really and seems to get about 58mpg. happy days

There is a another big difference between a car driver and a motorcyclist. Basically the car driver will have spent quite a lot of money on something like between 40 and 60 hours of instruction so he/she can be more likely to be guaranteed to know more than someone who spends half a day or 6 hours with 2 hours on the road on a CBT. They say that initially they are learning the controls but they may not be on a bike that they will eventually ride.

Did a bikesafe course yesterday and am now about to join my local iam group, been riding 30 years

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Simon beal brilliant check out IAM and RoSpa. Rider safer..

This gentleman is a wonderful communicator. I would love to have HIM comment on my riding skills and dangerous habits. I don't think one could ask for a better guide.

I have to say this but it is with respect. Numerous times you rode with your left hand not on the handlebars. Sometimes it was waving about making points. It occurred not only on A and B roads but also on a main arterial dual carriageway with a 70 mph speed limit..Sometimes ir more than once, in an overtake situation? I am sure that if you had followed a candidate for advanced riding and he or she waa doing that you would have pulled them up on it. Everyone does it to some degree so its a common occurrence.

Hi ,I’ve just got back into biking, and am an ex paramedic car and bike rider, does IAM have any exemptions due to past training? Great videos, very informative.

@markholroyd5365

3 жыл бұрын

Hiya! Sorry for the late reply. Both groups will take your past history into account. Ride safe.

Shame you’re in Cornwall I’d love to have you mentor me Mark. Fascinating video, thanks for the thorough explanation. 👍🏻

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks DervMan.

Best video yet, cant believe i watched it for 30 mins . Would be a good insight if you were mentoring someone and pointing out things in a 'live' running commentary. Just a thought.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Bates thanks Robert ride safe.

@edwardleniston1076

6 жыл бұрын

Robert Bates Robert look up seaflyfisher and Back2Thebike on KZread.

Hi Mark Interesting video, it will definitely get people thinking about improving their personal skill levels. Seeing as you're an advanced rider, would it be possible for you to make a video on road positioning whilst being out on your bike taking in everyday situations like how best to prepare for a corner, should you take the apex or follow the corner on a single line? Some people say to turn in late and make an L shape etc, it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this along with other situations you find on the road. How many numbered positions do you use for your lane? I've heard of people using just three positions, some use up to seven numbered positions for the lane. I'm sure that people will find your knowledge on this subject very interesting, as I will. Cheers Geoff

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Geoff. Thanks for the kind words. Mark is amazing and Toby has just recorded a video about practising cornering on unfamiliar roads which will be out in a few weeks. Depends on who you speak to in terms of numbering, the IAM Roadsmart use 1, 2 and 3 (1 being offside, 2 in the middle and 3 being the nearside) while others use 1,2,3,4 and 5 which splits the road even more. Keep an eye out for the video and we hope it helps. Toby

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Geoff Milne Hiya your suggestion is already in the pipeline all we have to do is just make the video. Seven positions! Amazing, I struggle to count to seven! Ha!

@GeoffreyMilne1

6 жыл бұрын

RiderCamTV Ha ha, I'm sure the guy who mentioned seven positions must of been including overtaking positions on the opposite side of the road! Three is enough for me! 🤣 I look forward to watching your video on road positioning, I will learn some more from examples in your video, every day is a school day on a bike! 🎓 I'm just back in the saddle after a fifteen year layoff, it's like learning to ride all over again, I'm getting more and more confident every time I venture back out with things starting to click back into place slowly. Thanks for your reply. Cheers 👍

Heed to find a local group and do a course great video Thanks

@RiderCamTV

5 жыл бұрын

You will love it... will meet a whole host of new people and put some techniques into practice and i bet you find your ride becomes more enjoyable too... good on ya... ride safe buddy :)

Passing your test only gets you your licence, its good experience makes the rider.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Those are very true words there!

I struggle with the interpretation of making progress when a national observer asks me to do something illegal to achieve it. The syllabus seems too loosey goosey depending on the observer. I have read reviews where a guy failed his test for not overtaking at NSL, and passed his retake by overtaking and breaking the speed limit by considerable margins. How does that work?

@markholroyd5365

Жыл бұрын

That’s very disappointing. I’m a member of both IAM and RoSPA and have never asked anyone to break any speed limit. The examiner in our area would consider speeding a fail and rightly so. Ride sfae

Blue car going 80mph breaking the national speed limit 18:51. By the way whats your thoughts on automatic bikes? are they safer?

@markholroyd5365

3 жыл бұрын

Steve I have ridden a couple of scooters and love them!!! The Africa Twin and the Honda AXDV are awesome. I would love one. Ride safe

Speed can be dangerous if taken to the excess and we are talking about exceeding the speed limit. Many riders and drivers really do believe that they are the safest drivers/ riders cos they don't exceed the speed limits but they could be the most dangerous road users as they have no or give no consideration to others and take advantage of others at every opportunity. and use the roads with inappropriate speeds. .More collisions and incidents occur as a result of inappropriate speeds that are or could be well below the NSL.

Do you really suggest that a Rospa Gold is the same as an IAM F1RST? I'd suggest that the Gold is more akin to an IAM Masters.

@markholroyd5365

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! Praise indeed. Ride safe

This is April 2024 and I( believe that the IAM are now charging some £225 or £250. for such a full course of instruction. When I say a full course I also may say that I am aware that someone within that organisation says that its usually of a 6 to 8 week duration only. Which is between 12 to 16 hours. Not a lot of riding time then? So not bad monies in some ones pocket . As the instructors or rather advisors/ assessors., as they may be called, are not being paid, that monies certainly will fill some ones pockets in admin or above. Not a bad annual income for their head or whatever names he gives to himself.

Whats the minimum motorcyle cc to get rospa&iam pin?

@RiderCamTV

2 жыл бұрын

there is no real cc lower limit but you need to be able to maintain the national speed limit safely, so a 50cc would be too small

I have a technical question. My bike is DCT, I always ride it in auto mode but I can use it in manual mode using the thumb buttons to change gear. Would that be acceptable for IAM?

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

DervMan, of course your bike is OK for the advanced test regardless of DCT. Ged on and do it!! Stay safe.

@TheDervMan

6 жыл бұрын

RiderCamTV Great stuff. I’ll get down to the next Super Sunday 👍🏻😬🏍

@TheDervMan

5 жыл бұрын

Signed up for IAM today and had my first assessed ride. :-)

@TheDervMan

5 жыл бұрын

RiderCamTV hey guys, had my first observed ride Sunday. The chap who took me out is a national observer and couldn’t find much I needed improvement on, I was pleasantly surprised. You guys have some bearing on that due to your videos around vanishing points and road positioning. So a big thanks from me 👍🏻😬

@reasonsvoice8554

4 жыл бұрын

This is something I've only just found out about saw it on a mv agusta at the bike show I was like...... That bikes got a "handbrake" right Where's the bloke in the mv gear let's chew his ear Amazed don't think I'd use it personally so just an expensive extra but wow interesting idea/system

I have completed RoSPA training (twice) yet not entered myself for the test, as I just do not see the point. The skills practiced, knowledge learnt and the ability to ride in a safe manner is what that matters to me. IAM will match insurance quotes but otherwise there is no benefit to completing an IAM test which is valid for a life time ? Yes, you can renew every couple of years but again no point. RoSPA do not have any benefits and require a retest every three years. It seems to me the only point of doing the actual test is to say I am an advanced rider, unless like yourself you want to be a blood biker.

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

kind of agree with you about the learning and that its all about the knowledge. what you do get from the IAM and RoSPA tests is confirmation that bad habits havent crept in and also a subjective perspective from an examiner/observer to help even more learning on technique. I think that the test is to confirm your standard, which of course is a personal thing and like you say some see no point in it, but every day is a learning day. By completing the tests you also have access to the local group (as with our local group say you have to be a member of IAM etc to remain a member of their group), with this in mind it opens the doors to a whole new friend base as well as being able to ride with like minded people. We all do it for different reasons and for us it is to try to remain as safe as possible, enjoy our ride as much as possible as well as meeting new people too. Ride Safe Matey

You mentioned the IAM is the institute of advanced motorcyclist s surely you mean the institute of advanced motorists?

@markholroyd5365

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Johnson the organisation is officially called IAM Roadsmart and has two sides to it, cars and bikes.

Is IAM or ROSPA recognised by the DVLA?

@markholroyd5365

Жыл бұрын

I believe they are. Certainly insurance is cheaper if you have either of the qualifications. Ride safe

@amyk9813

11 ай бұрын

​@@markholroyd5365 I have both and no discount on insurance (on car and I am under 25). My particular insurer only recognises IAM and the first test got me a fiver off but now with Masters and ROSPa gold, nothing! 😭

Are you allowed to ride one handed on your test? ;)

@markholroyd5365

Жыл бұрын

Nope. Ride safe

1 - OK. 2 - Maybe. 3 - Hopeless.

IAM appears to have become a cash making enterprise, they officials Want a big salary and have converted the organisation to doing that. Since my wife and I were involved with it as members and observers. It has changed for the grab it is now.

Regrettably, in the UK people are not taught to drive but, rather, how to pass a test.

Fat old men in Hiviz on BMWs :-)

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Kryten L Ouch!! Have you done one of the courses? Your perception would change guaranteed.. Stay safe.

@krytenLister

6 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunately how they are perceived by the target demographic ....and you know this fat old BMW rider ;-)

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Kryten L will be that fast bloke then with broken visor?

@krytenLister

6 жыл бұрын

and dodgy hip lol

@RiderCamTV

6 жыл бұрын

Kryten L but stretching helps....

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