Awesome comments already guys, got the RTX 3050 review dropping tomorrow too, so stay tuned!

@unopposedgammer9099

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I am waiting

@RAHULACHARY

2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for price drops🙄

@KuipersRacing

2 жыл бұрын

Is it good for triple screen racing?

@nmlearnerforever

2 жыл бұрын

Hi @Tech Yes City, I'm interested in getting this processor and pair it with h610 motherboard. I have a query on that which is given h610 does not allow memory overclocking will it run 3200mhz ram at 2400mhz and disable us from running it at rated speed? If it runs on 2400 how much performance will i lose?

@OCDyno

2 жыл бұрын

@@KuipersRacing it's basically 1660s performance with RTX features

Haven't seen one of your vids for a while. Loving the C&C music at the end

Definitely a thorough assessment!

Great presentation and well balanced. Thank you

thanks man. good to see some New World benchies as well man.

As always, good review. I got my i3-10100f with Gigabyte B460 Aorus Pro and 2x8G 2666hhz Kingston Hyper mem in Sept 2020, its still good for me. I need rather get some good deal gpu to replace my GTX1050.

@sixcoregamer9221

2 жыл бұрын

I agree your 10100F is fine for gaming but if you want a little more fps, there are two things you can do. (1) Tweak your memory timings. For example: My 2666 Mhz ram timings are 14-17-17-36-335-1T tRFC timing affects gaming fps. Be sure to lower it. (2) Get a pci-e sound card (not usb sound) A pci-e sound card will give a few more fps, especially when the cpu is near 100% usage

Great video mate

ahh what a bummer. I was waiting for your review to say what was the honest opinion. I was looking up for this cpu maybe was the time I upgrade. ohh well next gen is just another year away :P will wait for a little bit more

Thanks for this 🙏🏻

I recently got a bundle containing: Asus TUF Gaming B660M-PLUS D4 i5-12400F Corsair 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200MHz Asus GeForce RTX 3060 PHOENIX LHR 12GB for 840€, I think that was a pretty good deal considering GPU prices atm. Really feels like the i5-12400F fits perfectly in something like this.

@Nitsua_YT

Жыл бұрын

I got the exact same ram gpu motherboard and gpu lol

@Ramchowdaryking999

3 ай бұрын

Hi are you still using the same pc ? Have you noticed any bending problems?

Thanks for answering my question! I have a Snowman, might see if I can find a suitable power monitor sometime and do a real test, see what happens just for lols. :D I'm sure you're right though, probably just a small difference.

Great review

Can always count on the Tech Yes Man to prioritize that Price/Performance!👍❤

I bought the 12700k over some ryzen options and while it ended up being a better option the price of the motherboards were definitely surprising to me as someone who hasn't upgraded since skylake.

@warrax111

2 жыл бұрын

how are prices of motherboards? High or low?

@vgamedude12

2 жыл бұрын

@@warrax111 I paid 220 for a basic ddr4 z690 ( MSI one) with no wifi and frills. I think that feels pretty high to mme.

@warrax111

2 жыл бұрын

@@vgamedude12 yes. It's quite high, for last years. But... before ultra cheap motherboards it was like that. I've calculated according inflation, how much costed motherboards around year 2000, and it was around 280-400$ for mid range motherboards. The higher one, Abit and Asus costed like 500-600$. So it's still quite cheap, when you compare it with history.

@gurjindersingh3843

2 жыл бұрын

You could have paid just $30 more and get a much better motherboard.

@vgamedude12

2 жыл бұрын

@@gurjindersingh3843 Not really sure what else I would need. I don't need wifi, don't want ddr5 etc.

I'd love to see you get an asrock h670 riptide and test with this cpu along with the non k 12 series skus that are coming in the future. The value prospects look amazing.

I always love your work always brother

Had been really cool to see a video with the 12400F/12100F and a "der8auer non K OC" compared to the results in this video

@thepezfeo

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I'm surprised he didn't OC it, one of the first TechYesCity videos I watched was about BCLK overclocking non-K first gen. intel Core (and Xeon) CPUs.

@floorgang420

2 жыл бұрын

Non K OCable Mobo cost as much as Z690 so it's better not to OC at this moment. Focus on memory still the top prio.

@mladendenni7062

Жыл бұрын

@@floorgang420 i come from future and B660M Rog Steix bclk chip unlock cost 150 bucks

Great video! Lets hope that ASUS starts making DDR4 Mobos capable of overclocking. der8auer made a great video about non K OC for Alder Lake on ASUS mobos. That is really gonna change the budget cpu landscape.

really happy with my 11400F, it was cheaper than ryzen 5 when i first bought it and ive been very happy with it

@Tonyx.yt.

2 жыл бұрын

I get a 11400f, few days after 12600k launch, i know 12th was a nice improvement, but a decent motherboard is so expensive, i get a Msi b560m bazooka for 115€ brand new but a comparable lga1700 would cost at least 60% more

@gionieves2646

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonyx.yt. that's actually the ONLY 11th Gen Intel chip worth buying. 15-20% better IPC performance and a better box cooler (copper slug) to boot!

@Tonyx.yt.

2 жыл бұрын

@@gionieves2646 i dont even touched the box cooler and i used instead my old but good hyper x 212 evo. despite completly unlocked power limit of the cpu, the temperatures are quite good, because unlike ryzen or 12th gen, the cpu die is very large and has an easier dissipation of power.

@gionieves2646

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tonyx.yt. surprisingly if you use the stock PL1 and PL2 the box cooler does perfectly fine. About 60-70s in gaming.

@christophermullins7163

2 жыл бұрын

@@gionieves2646 15 to 20% IPC over 10th gen?

Me who invested in a Ryzen 5 3600 back in July 2019, smiling in the corner knowing it was a worthwhile investment.

Now the value of these CPUs comes with the non k overclock capable motherboards der8auer presented in a review. I'm going to be building some new work PCs to accommodate a couple new workers and opted for waiting these mobos paired with locked i7s and it's going to be more performance and cheaper than Ryzen 5800x

I got the 10105 for $99.99 USD. What a deal for a work and school PC.

@supersop1367

2 жыл бұрын

Ggs congrats

I used a Asus Prime B660M-K which works fine. Didn't destroy my budget like the Z690 mobo does. The stock LGA1700 cooler is just horrendously loud. It keeps the cpu degrees away from thermal throttling so i got a Hyper 212 evo V2 and now the temps are amazing.

If you go for this the b660 that can bclk oc is a must! It will perform like the 12600k

Attention to those who want to buy. Intel 12th Gen non-K CPU SA voltage（VCCSA） is locked at 0.92V, This causes the RAM to unstable under DDR4 3600MHz Gear 1 or higher , Even some RAM with XMP will not be able to boot. Gear2 will introduce higher latency, which will result in lower framerates for gamers. I don't know why Intel did this, maybe to give the K-series CPUs an edge,maybe it's to force users to buy expensive DDR5 RAM. I just bought the 12700, I don't want to overclock, just want to use cheaper DDR4 RAM, But Intel takes away even that. I'm very disappointed now. So I would like to remind people who want to buy Intel 12th Gen non-K CPU. Don't waste your money on DDR4 3600 memory. DDR4 3200 is the limit. If you want better memory performance, buy DDR5 memory. Or zen3 5600x+DDR4 3600 or higher.

@eclipsegst9419

2 жыл бұрын

Faster RAM isnt worth it for gaming anyways you are better off with 32gb 3200 than 16gb 4000 in the long run.

@zkbskcwi2320

2 жыл бұрын

@@eclipsegst9419 Under the same capacity gear1, 4000c18>3600c16>3200c14

@ZackSNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

@@eclipsegst9419 Faster ram definitely is beneficial as well as having more of it. There is a diminishing of returns in performance in Ryzen when you start to go over 3600mhz just like the amount of ram you have when you go over 32gbs depending on your use case. 3600mhz with 32gbs is the sweet spot for the majority on Ryzen.

@eclipsegst9419

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZackSNetwork I've ran the numbers and the difference between the best and just regular rated-speed ram is not worth the dollars spent in my book. It will not give you any sort of difference you can see on your screen with your eyes, and next year a new cpu will render your "advantage" irrelevant. Or you could get a new GPU, also render it irrelevant. Now, if you already have the rest of your rig at the level you want and you have extra in the budget anyways? 1- I envy you but 2- sure get that last 5fps good on you. But i wouldn't recommend anyone on a budget worry about ram speed as any sort of main priority.

@eclipsegst9419

2 жыл бұрын

@@zkbskcwi2320 32GB DDR4 4000cl19 Trident Z costs 330 dollars. 3200cl14 costs 240 dollars. Thats just one brand but whatever, it's a 37.5% increase. You aren't going to see anywhere near a 37.5% performance increase, in anything. That's my point. Sure it is "better" but that doesn't mean it's worthwhile.

Thank you 👍

I’m doing a cpu upgrade in the next few weeks because my old 4690k just can’t handle halo infinite above 60 fps and discord at the same time. And as much as I’d love to get the 12400f because it’s the newest and the fastest etc etc, the fact that I can get a 10400f for $198 and a decent b560 mobo for $179 completely wipes the floor of the value proposition of the 12400f which costs $299 (not that bad, but still not great) and the equivalent b660 mobo which costs $349. $377 vs $648, the 12400f + mobo just doesn’t seem worth an extra 71% of the price of the 10400f + mobo imo. Especially considering I still have a GTX 970 so I doubt I’d see any performance increase in games with the 12400f over the 10400f since my GPU is so old so I’m almost certain to be GPU bound in everything I play

Seeing how close the 10400F was in the gaming benchmarks I completely agree with your conclusion. I've found the stock cooler is fine for the lower powered 10400F, however I did order a few 11th gen stock coolers as they have the all black look, but any cheap air cooler will do.

@propeldragon

2 жыл бұрын

My 10400 gets to 72c max with the stock cooler.

@rathstar

2 жыл бұрын

@@propeldragon How many fans do you have in the case and does the case have good airflow ? 72 degrees at max temp is not going to do any damage to the CPU, but you can always get a cheap air cooler if you want to lower those temps.

@propeldragon

2 жыл бұрын

@@rathstar it's on a open air test bench. I'm not worried about the temps. Theyre perfect. If anything, some better thermal paste might help a bit.

@rathstar

2 жыл бұрын

@@propeldragon Sorry I misinterpreted your replay as suggesting that 72 degrees was hot, and now rereading it I see you weren't.

I think ill get this. I am Upgrading from an athlon 860k. Cpu ram and Mobo are getting a swap and its will cost me under 400 for an upgrade and thiw review just answered exactly what I want this cpu to do

Brooo i played with you when you did that apex bench mark!

I watched other videos and the benchmark result with 12400 use far less wattage (almost half) when compared to 5600x. Which one is the right one?

10th gen still a solid buy, keep up the good work! 👍

i got a 12400f cpu on christmas 2022 for gaming and editing and a gtx 1660super and its awesome! thank you tech yes and i got a overkill cooler from thermalright (peerless assassin)

@tommycoperture7784

Жыл бұрын

What mothedboard did you choose

@Ramchowdaryking999

3 ай бұрын

Hi are you still using the same pc? And have you noticed any CPU bending? Can I buy?

What cooler would you recommend for this? I'm looking at simple 120mm rad AIOs and maybe even that Ventroo 5, you have any you've tested you like?

That i7 vs i3/i5 fact is why I got 4000Mhz DDR4. It might not be as good as 3600 with a lower latency but people see a higher number.

@PuppetMasterdaath144

Жыл бұрын

speed trump lower latency so your argument makes less sense than other stuff written on KZread - kidding, its all crazy dumb

@PokèMyBalls

Жыл бұрын

@@PuppetMasterdaath144 If you say so. That's why DDR5 is SO FAR ahead of DDR4. Lol

wow, that 12100 is up there with the big boys

Hey Bryan, In your bar chart from I9-12900k until I3-10100F where does the E5 2699 v3 sits?

Alright! Once again, the Tech YES Man brings us the good stuff to help us make an informed purchase decision. Keep up the great work, good sir!

Thank you so much @Tech Yes City. I have a question regarding your final thoughts. If one were to wait to buy an I5 12400 and an H610 motherboard, wouldn’t you be giving up memory overclocking ability? I haven’t looked at the specific differences of the newest chipsets for the 12th generation Intel Alder Lake platform. I’m going by what I know from past generations. Also does that make much of a difference with a CPU like this?

@vMaxHeadroom

2 жыл бұрын

Yes on the H610 no overclocking and it is severely cut down in other areas as well. But on the bright side the 12100 and 12400 non K CPU's can be overclocked on some B660 motherboards through FSB overclocking. der8auer did a great article on this. Still I would not go down to H610 no matter what. Get the B660 at the very least to get the best out of 12th gen...I have a 12700K and I am more than impressed and happy as competition is back... kzread.info/dash/bejne/domup9qonqubhLA.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/apiduqaehKepktI.html

@IamMarkSmith

2 жыл бұрын

@@vMaxHeadroom thank you!

That's funny. My stock cooler with the 3600 would always peg at 95 degrees full-bore and clock down to almost base clocks at all core workloads (3.6-3.65ghz). I got a Snowman and got it down to 70-80 at peak utilization, with boost clocks now in the 3.9ghz range - thus I did still lose performance by using the stock AMD cooler.

Good value. 👍

The 12600K only adds 10% faster clock speeds and 4 ecores which adds a few frames only when you're CPU bound and already above 120 frames. It also slurps more power and runs up the thermals. The 12100 was going for almost the same price, so the extra 2 cores of the 12400 was only $40.

@gurjindersingh3843

2 жыл бұрын

12600K is much smoother, gives better 1% low

@areamannamesyoutubechannel3139

2 жыл бұрын

@@gurjindersingh3843 can you be more specific with what you mean here

@kuronoch.1441

2 жыл бұрын

@@areamannamesyoutubechannel3139 Means that there will be no noticeable stutters. Which will be crucial in gaming.

@cmoneytheman

2 жыл бұрын

@@kuronoch.1441 well a person doesn't need to get that chip for less stutters

@cmoneytheman

2 жыл бұрын

@@gurjindersingh3843 wrong cause lots of people have these 11th and others and have no stutters

My best value cpu is the friendships I’ve made along the way with my other tech yes city brothers 😎

Running 12400f on b760m ds3h and rx 6600xt plus 5200mhz 16gb xpg ddr5. Whatever game I throw at it, it does the magic.

i bought this CPU yesterday and paired it with MSI PRO H610M-B and with a tower fan CPU cooler, I upgraded from Core i5-3470 but because lack of funds so I only upgrade the Motherboard, CPU and RAM, so the GPU is still my old 1050ti and 2 HDD and 2 SSD (I saw an m2 slot on the motherboard maybe will consider trying m2) I hope I made the correct decision with this upgrade

Just to note: you’ve got a C0 stepping 12400 there (SRL4W S-spec), that’s the large die, same as 12900K for instance. There’s also the H0 stepping with a smaller die (SRL5Z S-spec) that consumes less power.

@Nickayz2

Жыл бұрын

That's interesting information. Where do you see that?

I got a msi Z690 + i5 12400f + 16gb of ram all for $300. If you can get a deal like that the price to performance ratio is insane

Hey Tech YES City great video as usual i wanna ask can u do a review on the i9 11900 ES QVYE its 190$ banger atm what do you think ??

Thank you

Thank you.

just got this for $160 and motherboard for $100. Should be amazing with the 3080. Cheers!

Don't forget the $40 Thermal Grizzly CPU Contact Frame for the new LGA 1700 boards.

Just getting back into gaming on pc since the 90s I happen come across a good prebuilt it has this cpu, with 3060rtx 12gb ddr6, ram is only 16gb one stick gonna add more there and then 1tb HD and I can run all modern new games that I play on highest graphics settings and still get 120fps good setup for 1080 I’ll upgrade here in future for gpu and stuff but yeah good cpu for what I do warzone, fortnite games like that

Did someone say value? Instant like

My 12400f has been amazing coupled it with a RTX 3060ti and honestly I regret the GPU more than the CPU. But I'm waiting for the 5 series to come out.

Wow can't believe you didn't talk about the overclocking of the 12400f and other non K overclocking possibilities of 12th gen. Thanks Yes Man!

@SVW1976

2 жыл бұрын

Not worth 3% gains

@mladendenni7062

Жыл бұрын

@@SVW1976 44% in AI bench ca n single core to 5.3Ghz and all core 4.9Ghz

How did you mount the snowman on the 12th gen proc?

I just got the 12400T off eBay for $129. Cheap, AND low heat/power draw.

Oof. I guess I never put the two together that you are sponsored by scdkey. That or I just never made the association. I use that from time to time I'll make sure to use your code from here on out.

Which API do you use for your Fortnite benchmarks?

I bought it in combination with an rtx 3050 (gigabyte h610 mobo and 16 g 3.200 ram). but it's my first time building a pc so: should I apply thermal paste? the cooler I think has a layer already... but the less I do the less I m confused. suggestions?

I just got an i5 11400F that I wan to use in an iTX build. Only reason I got it was that I got it for Intels recommended sale price: around $150 USD

I think the i3-12100f is even better value than this for budget gamers.

@tanmaypanadi1414

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it stutter in some games in the frame time graphs.

@gionieves2646

2 жыл бұрын

It is for E-Sports titles. Once you play a CPU intensive game the 12100 tanks performance. The 12400 CPU will last 2-3x longer, so the associated cost is well worth it if you're a gamer.

@mormakill

2 жыл бұрын

only 2630v2 ;)

@budgetking2591

2 жыл бұрын

@@gionieves2646 2-3x longer lol, sure

@SVW1976

2 жыл бұрын

Gonna go out on a limb here. 4 cores is just barely going to do it these days.

The associated costs are not a problem, because you meet them in both amd and intel worlds... For example, amd's factory coolers may be adequate but they sound like a helicopter, so yes, you'll need an aftermarket cooler for intel and amd cpus. Now, about the motherboards, the new b660 and z690 come loaded with new technologies and they are still new in the market. It is expected to be much more expensive than the 560's and the 590's... Wait some months and their prices will go down as happens always (let's leave aside the chip "shortage phenomenon"). Always the new technology, the first months, ask for more money... The same can be said for the DDR5 too. So I don't see any disadvantage on 12400f. Besides, you have not any other alternative option in the amd world... Whatever new part buy NOW in the AMD platform , will be obsolete in a few months when series 7xxx come out, because then, for the new cpu, will need new motherboard, new cooler and new RAM (only DDR5) and they will be more expensive (as new technologies) too ... But with 12400f you can keep the motherboard and the DDR4 for one more generation next year...

That 12600 is wild

Ive bought It with z690 UD ddr5 because Will use same shocket as Next Gen raptor Lake and It will last more time. Got one slot ddr5 16gb because It supose to be dual Channel It self. I think its smart

12400f 179$ + B660M-A D4 139$ = 320$ best value on the market

11:15 Does the Snowman cooler work for LGA1700?

I get this CPU for $172 and paired with $131 B550M motherboard. I think with just $303 this CPU has best price to performance right now (even compared to 12100f I guest). There is no CPU under $175 can beat this level of performance, Everyone called this CPU Budget King for a reason.

@bertracoon1884

2 жыл бұрын

but if you are on a tight budget and dont mind used parts, then i would go for a 10400/f or ryzen 3600x.

Could we please have a used cpu 2022 guide ?

this cpu is insane i wished 12th gen mobs weren't so expensive in my country cheapest mob for 12th gen is 200 eur and for amd 5th gen is only 65 eur

I think for a good all around mid level gaming system, the 12400 and even the 12100 are actually very good value especially as DDR4 is so cheap so all told $400 gets you a decent platform with the 12400/B660 and DDR4 ram at 3600 and that will allow for upgradability in the future. Problems as always, right now is the GPU prices have thrown everything into a tail spin and thus going second hand like 10th gen Intel, AMD 3600 etc really comes into play as the more you can save towards your GPU the better right now. Still if you are buying NEW right now then 12th gen is the stronger platform. I wish AMD would seriously drop prices of the 5600X/5800X etc and they need to produce low end CPU's for the next cycle as right now Intel have that all tied up with a bow!

I have a GTX 1070, and ordered this over an i3 12100F. I was looking for an upgrade from a B460M-A Pro and i3 10100F, and was recommended B660 and an i3 12100F, cause of my budget, and I ordered both, but ultimately decided to cancel the i3 order and splurge and get the i5 12400F after seeing it was recommended by benchmark over the i3 for gaming. My issue at the time, and right now while I wait for the parts, is I am CPU bottlenecked in MWII. Would this be okay to be paired with a 1070? I just want to stop the bottleneck lol. I do plan on getting a Hyper 212 EVO v2 as a nice budget cooler, but that's not for a week or two. Would it also be okay to use the stock cooler until then for gaming?

got the i5-12400 at Microcenter for $170 beginning March. Best buy period. Not using it for games really, just as a server/plex/nas/programming/ML

ye i already had a zed 490 and saw teh gaming pearformance of alder lake and its pretty much teh same as rocket lake so i ordered a i7 11700k for really cheap.

And how long will the associated socket be around?

I bot the 12400f and paired it with a Gigabyte b660m hs3d DDR4 motherboard. It works great with 3200mghz memory. The most its drawing with stock settings at full load is 54 watts and a cinebench 20 score of 4707. At full load stock cooler keeps it at 71c. I put on a shadow rock 3 cooler from Be Quiet and can't get it above 54c at full load. Love it.

@azharriaz14

2 жыл бұрын

Are you satisfied with your mobo i heared bad reviews about it and i m thinking about buying 12400 and this mobo

@cerescop

2 жыл бұрын

@@azharriaz14 I am, Cinebench score is 12200. The memory is running at advertised speed with XMP on in BIOS (3200 mghz). The cpu is running at 4.3 single core and 3.99 all core. Temps are running at 54c under heavy load with a Be Quiet shadow Rock3 installed. 70c with the included cooler installed. No problems so far and it's running everyday 9+ hours for 3 weeks.

@azharriaz14

2 жыл бұрын

@@cerescop so this mobo is good i jave 3200mhz rams 2 8gb sticks cl 18 i think and coolermaster ma410M cooler waiting for this mobo though. I was concerned by the performance of this mobo thats why i asked you

@cerescop

2 жыл бұрын

@@azharriaz14 My ram is 18-18-18-38 cl16. Could I have done better with the mobo, yes, for more money. I have had no complaints so far with the motherboard. It is functioning and doing what I wanted. The chip doesn't put out a lot of heat about any aftermarket cooler will do well. Good luck.

@azharriaz14

2 жыл бұрын

@@cerescop In my area i m getting Gigabyte b660 ds3h not hs3 what should i do

Can you make a video how to install snowman cpu cooler, I bought this cooler an year ago based on your recommendation and I'm impressed with it's performance, using it on i7 8700(non-k) recently upgraded form i5 8400 and 8th gen processors are quite hot. So it will be useful for many of us if you help installing this cpu cooler which saves us little bit of money instead of getting newer cooler fornLGA 1700. Thanks keep this wonderful content coming. 🙏

I am veerry fine with my 5600x which gets around the same fps in reality as the 5950x and a little bit less than the 12900k in a few games...Although the 5800x for 340 is clearly the better choice against the 5600x for 270 (in Germany) when it comes to multicore and synthetic benchmarks in terms of price/performance, more than 95% of my time spent on ma Gaming Rig I dont even fully need the 6 cores on the CPU, Gaming (+ Streaming) is usually the most demanding action taken by myself. In addition to that my 5600x is more efficient and has lower temps in the same tasks...the same story could obviously be written with the 12400F ;)

12100 is calling my name. Even with B660 pricing i can resell my 3300x/B550 for most of the cost of 12100/B660. I made a call when i bought my 3300x. I placed my bet that single threaded gains from this performance war would be so high that 4c/8t would be plenty enough for gaming again very quickly, and i could ride those gains for a small cost per year. I feel like the 12100 playing AAA "quad core killers" with better fps AND lows than the 3600 speaks for itself.

@jurpo6

2 жыл бұрын

Ummm... why not just... upgrade to a better amd processor and not buy all new stuff?

@eclipsegst9419

2 жыл бұрын

@@jurpo6 AM4 is dead, there is no 5300x, and even if there were the i3 would still beat it. Not to mention, my Ryzen has crashed and needed dumb driver issues worked out way way more often than my Intels before it so ill be done with AMD for awhile anyways even if they can make a fast CPU they need to make a stable one. Also their idea of overclocking is a joke you can't set the ratios separately for each number of active cores, so i'd rather just not even waste my money on the feature anyways, everything is over 4ghz out of the box so why bother? When 13th gen i3 comes out ill plop one in, then when meteor lake comes out ill resell the mobo at a small loss again. I'm glad to have a small loss every few months for a jump in single threaded performance, thats all that matters for 99% of things anyways.

Will this cpu be good for one pc gaming/streaming builds?

I really love my 10400f it was bargain buy at that time.

@tilapiadave3234

Жыл бұрын

"AT THAT TIME" ,, yes but the ram speed limitation hurt performance ,,,, I waited until B560 mobo's became cheap and then run a cheap 10400 with 3200 ram

I want to build a secondary PC! I think I'll get the 11400f instead especially because don't have many compatible coolers with the 12400f. I want to combine with my RTX 2070 Super

4:56 thanks to this chart. this still confirms my suspicion that Intel's 10nm is not equal TSMCs 7nm. Alder Lake definitely has better IPC than AMD but power consumption is behind the older Ryzen

@zodiacfml

2 жыл бұрын

​@Amoled then that would lower boost clocks/performance. other media shows the same power usage because they use higher graphic settings which puts a gpu bottleneck unlike here where he used low/medium settings

Since a decent Motherboard cost is really high in my country i think going on older gen cpu is the option for me. i was tempted to get the i3-12100f but i still dont know if i really want to get that since the cost of the i3-12100f and cheapest bare bone motherboard in my country is the same as going Ryzen 7 2700 and a B450M Mortar Max. but still im not really rushed either since the GPU Price is still not looking great either in here.

@StevenSteves

2 жыл бұрын

Also my montly salary is only $110 so its really hard for me to spend money even if its just another $5-10

Nice... watching intel reviews and an AMD advertisement is the first to display.. Nice work AMD. :D

YESMAN hows that Asrock z690 Taichi board on overclocking>?

I had i7 3770 and upgraded to 12400f, my lord the difference is UNREAL, 3770 came out in 2012 i think, so thats to be expected

@garrymcdonald5456

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Similar although your chip is a bit faster- i5-4460 8gb ram and a IDE Drive to a 12400, 32gb ram and m.2 4.0 drive. Man I am looking forward the build, just waiting for my motherboard.

No mention of the game changing overclock possible currently on the 12400, once this info becomes more widespread this CPU will most likely go up in price than down.

@Dexiefy

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Are you reffering to overclocking of base clock available on certain madly expensive z690 boards? How does that help if the MB that allows it is more expensive than CPU itself? Someone buying board like taht just gets 12600k or better cpu. Unless ofc there is some b660 board oc I am not aware of that surfaced in the recent days.

@mladendenni7062

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@@Dexiefy you mean B660 mbos that cost 150 euro? i came from future tho Rog Striz B660M -G and MSI B660 Mortar thanks me later

@Dexiefy

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@@mladendenni7062 It was shown first time on z690 boards by de8auer and at the time of my comment those were the only boards cappable of overclocking non-k cpu's. They also at the time were way more expensive than they are now... In case you are too daft to see it, my comment was written 8 months ago. So... cool story bro.

Idle power consumptions please. Important nowadays. The 12400 is the best for idle and moderate loads. Full loads are really important for final power consumption.

12100F good enough for my 60 fps gaming on a cheap H610 mobo with stock fan. The GPU matters way more!

OC 12400F 👍🤩

What about testing this chip with a H610 board or a cheap B660 board. The "forever boosting" is not unlocked on all motherboards. From what I understand from Intel it isn't unlocked at all on H610 and is only on some B660 boards. This means that only Z690 has full boosting capabilities (unlimited time PL2). This also destroys the value of the chip relative to its performance. Especially considering that the 12400F + a B660 board is about the same price as a 5600x + B450/B550 board.

review the 12700f ? for 313 usd its pretty much 5600x msrp / 12600k msrp and it still has that 8+4 cores! it may be only 2.1ghz but thats to match the 65w tdp and the weak stock cooler. What if we dumped a cheap after marker cooler? could it boost itself to 4ghz if it has the thermal headroom?

9:43 isn't the 11400f even more power hungry than the 12400f ?

Hi, I'm planning to get a new PC. Need your kind advice about the PC specs below:- i5 12400F + RTX 3060 8GB _____________________________ Intel I5 12400F 6c 12t @ 2.5~4.4ghz MSI PRO B660M E Motherboard Zadak 8GB 3200 RGB DDR4 Inno3D / Palit RTX 3060 12GB Invasion / Silverstone 600W 80+ Power Supply MSI Vampiric R100 Casing 240GB M.2 SSD Toshiba 1TB HDD With Games = Total cost USD 1068. Do you think the total price is worth it with the specs above? Need some suggestions on this. Thank you.

I like the 10400, 10600 and 10700 variants better too, honestly. Get a cheaper mobo, and an even better value CPU. Sure, IPC and clocks are lower, but if we are talking budget gaming, you need a pretty big GPU anyways to make even a 10400 bottleneck it.

Can i use this cpu with a rtx 3080?

How much of a difference in performance is there on DDR4? I don't believe for one second a budget builder will be or should be buying DDR5 for that build. I would imagine good 3200 or 3600 would be 3-7% less performance, depending on the use. Depending on the use case, going up a CPU tier or doubling the Ram would be a better idea than DDR5. Obviously DDR5 would show its value, once you migrate it to a future build.

@darthwiizius

2 жыл бұрын

DDR5 is not worth buying yet because it's too new so it's not reached it's optimum performance and price. Software is also not coded to fully utilise it. I'll go to a DDR5 machine in a couple of years when prices and supply are standardised.

Did you enable turbo boost?