Newegg had these last weekend for $113, could get it under $100 with a zip promo.

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

What a deal!

@christianmino3753

3 ай бұрын

Ugh, I both love and hate this hobby so much. I paid $225 for mine like 6 months ago -___- I just couldn't wait, I had been dying to play Zelda TOTK on Yuzu at a decent frame rate, and my i3-12100f just couldn't give me above 40. I got it on sale at Best Buy for around $225.

@lloydaran

3 ай бұрын

That's insane, it's 200€ here in Italy...

@OfficialCarlsJr

3 ай бұрын

i picked one up with the zip promo. gonna sell my 12400f and basically get a free upgrade

@David_Crayford

3 ай бұрын

Just had a look at Newegg and for the UK shipping is generally £25 - £40 on top of the component's price.

Cool video. Always interesting to see what else is out there. For now I will be sticking with AM4 for awhile and my Ryzen 5 1600 AF was free in a trade so can't beat the price.

Good morning from a fellow Kent person. 😁 Keep the good content coming in, I do use your videos to seek out the best looking FPS type games for my PC and (sssh) X Box Series console.

Thank you this helps me out a lot. I have a i5 12400f and thought I overspent on the gpu when going with the rx 7800 xt. Thanks for showing how capable the i5 12400f is

@alexanders.4591

3 ай бұрын

Dude, that pairing is amazing. Great choice! I’ve actually been thinking about upgrading my 6700XT to a 7800 XT.

@carter7894

3 ай бұрын

@@alexanders.4591 The 7800 xt has been amazing. If you're looking at playing at 1440p or 4k its perfect. Just with the 12400f at 1080p the 7800 xt does not get fully utilized

I’ve got a 12600kf. Decent cpu for sure. I paid $140 around Black Friday last year. A z690 board for about 100 and 32gb ddr4 for 50 bucks or so. I grabbed one of the Thermalright coolers he mentioned and it’s a great cooler. About 330 plus a case and ssd. Not bad really.

@dianaalyssa8726

3 ай бұрын

Have a bunch of Thermalright coolers cooling our 12400F, 12700KF, and 12900KF rigs. Were great B760M and Z690 deals last year on boards and DDR5 deals (probably should have went D4 to save but the boards cost the same at the time I acquired everything).

@Cyprin86

2 ай бұрын

Me too. I ve taken by some daye my 12600kf, with msi mobo ddr5 and thermalright assassin cooler 5 pipes ( amazing cooler). My cpu on full load do not go over 60 degress!. Watching videos on youtube seems, this cpu is super hot, but it s not true! I think depends how good you put thermal paste on it and the quality of it. I used mx6. Love this cpu so much, very economic but very powerfull for that price. No reason to but a 13600k/14600k for double price. I ve invested for a good case thar moneys 🙂

Hey brother, before I comment, I just wanted to tell you that you and iceberg tech are my two favorite content creators. Much love and respect from the other side of the pond! You guys make such great content! I replied to another comment on this vid saying the same thing but anyway ugh. I both love and hate this hobby so much. I paid $225 for mine like 6 months ago -___- I just couldn't wait, I had been dying to play Zelda TOTK on yuzu at a decent frame rate, and my i3-12100f just couldn't give me above 40. I got it on sale at best buy for around $225. EDIT: I got the non f variant as I like to use a quad monitor set up (I'm silly, I know) and I like to use my integrated GPU for my side monitors.

@Chill_Mode_JD

3 ай бұрын

Agreed and IMO Iceberg is criminally underrated

@fallnight

3 ай бұрын

That's nice to hear, what is your GPU ?

@406Steven

3 ай бұрын

They're both a refreshing change from the usual KZreadrs putting a 14900KS and a 4090 in every build for sure! I love seeing just how well older and/or lower-end tech can do. I was running an i7-2600 and a GTX 260 then 770 then 1070 for ages and it proved to me how much performance modern hardware has and how you don't need to drop $3k on a PC to have fun.

@m8x425

3 ай бұрын

Iceburg has good coverage on the old x99 platform

@christianmino3753

3 ай бұрын

@@fallnight I have been GPU hopping for the past year. Started with an i5 4'th gen/gtx 1060, landed on my goal of i5 12600k/RX 6800XT about a year later from building and selling budget rigs on mercari (that's why I love these channels so much!) and the 6800XT died and I replaced it with an RX 3080 to mixed satisfaction. pretty disappointed with the RT performance, but I got it for $300 and it's a custom modified card cooled by an aio instead of the heatsink, fans and shroud that it came with. Happy with my Frame rate, upset with the 10GB of VRAM failing me in 4k RDR2 while my RX 6800XT handled it swimmingly. RT performance sucks. Can't get a 60 fps average in Elden at 1080p, let alone 1440p, with RT enabled even if I'm on the low preset for everything else. Will most likely never go NVIDIA again! I also can't see the difference between FSR and DLSS once I get to 1400p/4k. Both of them suck at 1080p anyway, so I can't see a reason to justify spending the premium on an NVIDIA card when AMD just seems to outclass them in every way since RT is just pretty much unusable unless you are on the 40 series anyway.

Thanks for the heads up!

Would be a great upgrade for people who went with the 12100f budget build. Atleast from I'm from the AMD 5X00 cpus are around half the price more expensive with the 7X00 series being 2x-3x more expensive.

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

Yeah nice performance boost from the 12100f for sure, though that is still very impressive considering it’s a quad core

@christianmino3753

3 ай бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHD I'll you, the 12100f is a phenomenal chip. If you aren't concerned with the extra cores, it performs almost frame for frame with the i5-12400f.

Really enjoy the content. Keep up the good work. Any recommendations for building a mid range gaming pc for 1080/1440p. I usually go AMD but open to suggestions.

Igpu and quicksync helps the rendering times when exporting projects in premiere pro.

@itsTyrion

3 ай бұрын

not just that, it's also the only thing that can hardware decode footage with 4:2:2 chroma which a many slightly more expensive cameras can record in. consumer nvidia or AMD GPUs just don't do that.

my build from last year features the i5 12400 which i used based on your channel recommendation.:).

So ive been watching your channel for a while, i myself enjoy building my own custom pc,s and i have recently started again reviving my KZread channel after five years lol Im currently working with an older setup its doing me justice I7 4790s 16gb ddr3 Gtx 960 However i use an older editing program and render times is bismal(vegas pro 14) can you recommend a better editing software Im planning on changing from intel to amd later this year just for this reason i was thinking r9 5900x what do you rekon for editing

Great video as both the 12400 and 12600 (all versions) are really good value CPU's especially for gaming and with the 12600 the additional e-cores do come in handly for the semi pro workloads like rendering etc....

had the K before switching to the 13600k, now my son daily drives the 12600k with a RTX3080 10gb, I have a RTX4080 paired with my 13600k, both amazing CPU's, for gaming, you don't need anything else on LGA1700 atm imo, GG great vid as usual :)

@StroggKingu

Ай бұрын

Computation power true, but 14refresh uses a bit less power on the same clocks between 10% - 20% but it's rarely mentioned in the reviews.

I just bought a 12600K for same price as you mentioned. Which I’ll also be pairing with a 4070 or 4070 s depending on how the market moves

Question/advice currently running a 12100f 1440p. Not overly worried about frame rate. Because of the pretty low price of said 12600KF would it be worth the upgrade? Possibly to benefit future gpus currently have a 3060ti. I’m in 2 minds

I have the same system. 12600 KF with 32 gigs of DDR5 RAM and 4070 Super.

I have a MSI B660M-P motherboard, bought it by mistake instead of the B660M-A. Currently using it with a 12100F but I'm looking to upgrade soon. Do you think the motherboard could handle the 12600KF or 13400F?

i was very happy when i found out about this cpu a few months ago. its absolutely amazing, and definitely a huge upgrade iovver my old cpu

Quick question I have an i5 3470 , 8 GB of RAM , GTX 1050 ti and I feel some bottleneck here and there but my question is, does upgrading my CPU to i7 4790 would make a difference or it's not worth upgrading?

I always like having integrated graphics for troubleshooting. Been doing that since day one. peace of mind for me.

Hey Steve! I need your help! I built a pc and when I launch a AAA game it gets too loud after 5 minutes of the launch. I disabled case fans, set silent profiles to CPU/GPU fans and nothing helped!

In germany that CPU costs nearly 300 euro. Prices are crazy in germany. I personally mainly still use a i7 9700k and i5 9600k and currently think about upgrading to a 14700k, 14900k, ryzen 7 7800x3d or ryzen 9 7950x3d.

@ec285

3 ай бұрын

Nope it costs 170€ + shipping

@Drumonymus

3 ай бұрын

Maybe you should consider other vendors. CPU prices are really low atm in germany.

@detmer87

3 ай бұрын

Only the fanboys are still considering a Intel these days. Just go with the Ryzen 7800x3d.

@TheSpotify95

3 ай бұрын

If it was me, I'd choose either the 7950X3D or the 14900K. Maybe even the 14900KS if available.

@m8x425

3 ай бұрын

are those the prices at mindfactory? At Mindfactory, AMD processors outsell Intel processors by an insane margin. It's not even 2 to 1. It's more like 8 to 1

What are your thoughts on running windows 10 with 12th gen? P+E cores?

Greetings from Bahrain! During black friday last year, 12600k is cheaper than 12400F and 5600 in newegg (and also cheaper than this 12600KF) so I grab it to replace my i7 3770 system. It's great and I really need the iGPU since I'm using it as encoder in OBS so there is no stress to my 3060 during gameplay recording.

@tenchuZsenran

3 ай бұрын

Noice catch, hey I am looking to upgrade my CPU (i5 7600) and eventually GPU 1070 What CPU/Mobo/Ram did you go for? I think I will have to set up a deal alert or something 😅

@tenchuZsenran

3 ай бұрын

Oh and one more thing, did you play for higher fps or better GFX usually? I tend to lower res/gfx in favour of fps. (Even story games)

@masherjoker25

3 ай бұрын

@@tenchuZsenran the motherboard I got is MSI PRO B760M-A DDR4 WIFI. I originally wanted an MSI PRO B660M-A since it was reviewed by Hardware Unboxed but It's not available at that time and the closest one is PRO B760M-A and on sale. Just don't get LGA 1700 mobo without vrm heatsinks. The ram I got on sale is a kit of G skill ripjaws V 3200 cl16 (2x16GB). I prioritize sustaining 60 fps so I will lower settings if performance can't sustain 60 and I will increase settings if I'm over my refresh rate. for my setup usually DLSS is enought to reach 60fps while using high settings.

@tenchuZsenran

3 ай бұрын

​@@masherjoker25I see, so you aim for 60 only. I personally prefer 120, but I guess 60 with nice graphics is nice too

@tenchuZsenran

3 ай бұрын

​@@masherjoker25i am going itx will need to check mobos, I do have an MSI now as well :) Is there any issues with heat that's why I need to go for ones with vrm heatsink? (Currently my setup is basically open case and will do an inside the desk pc)

Love that cpu, currently using it

What should i pair with rx 6800 for 1440p? What mobo fto choose? B760 msi p dd4 d4 asus prime b660 plus d4 or asrock b760 pro rs d4

How does it compare with the i5 12400f?

I just bought this for $140 on Amazon (there was a instant coupon) and I paired it with an Radeon 6800 that I paid $320 for on Newegg with 32GB DDR4 3600 Ram for $55. I’m getting about 16000 score on 3D Passmark testing. Happy with my build, 1440p gaming is no issue and 1080p really smokes.

What do you do with all these parts you keep getting? You must have enough to build like a few dozen systems by now.

1:53 the way NPC got up made me laugh lmfao 🤣

Depends where You live, but in here can buy (in stock) Gembird huracan x500 cooler for like 25 eur. Nothing comes close even on noticeably more expensive range :)

Friend’s using the 13400F which is basically this I believe. Was lucky enough to help him snag it when it suddenly went on a flash sale, making it cheaper than the 12600K. Strangely no longer the case though but we take those deals when we can.

@amadii8768

3 ай бұрын

yeah the 13400f is basically a lower binned 12600k but damn is it a good performer, been using one myself

@teku0000

3 ай бұрын

@@amadii8768 These 12th-14th gen cpus have been pleasantly surprising imo, I have a I9-12900k, its a beast of a cpu but even like the i5s are performing as well in terms of games

@m8x425

3 ай бұрын

They're similar, except the 13400f is clocked 400MHz lower on all cores

@FIIIIIIP

3 ай бұрын

Can't OC 13400F tho.

Paired this with 3200mhz ddr4 and a 3060ti a couple years ago and its running flawlessly. Zero issues in gaming and 3d content creation. Also its crazy cool with a noctua redux.

saw the 12700kf at 199 a couple of times (2 or 3 weeks ago was at 199 but now came back to 250 or so), feel it would be a beter choice for 30 or 40dls more, especially for those 8 real strong cores, some games were having problems with e cores and having those extra 2 could help later on...

I don't do Intel, but great video.

I just bought it Monday!

Bought one for $75 at microcenter. These chips are becoming the new budget king. Only a year ago i bought a 12100f for the same price.

I'm still using a 6600k paired with a 1070 Mini from Galax, and the 12600kf is now a good CPU, because as you said, spending that money of a 13600kf on a better GPU, like a 4070 super or a 7900 XT. Very good review!

I have to say, entry level and mid range in 12th gen have quite good performance compared to their value. Still on a 10700kf so far.

@brando3342

3 ай бұрын

I have a 10600k and I see absolutely no reason to upgrade any time soon. It's keeping up just fine with my 3070.

@bearfm

2 ай бұрын

@@brando3342 i also have a 10600k, on a 7900 xt, and it's crawling. going to upgrade soon.

@brando3342

2 ай бұрын

@@bearfm Really? What is it crawling for?

@bearfm

2 ай бұрын

@@brando3342 for gaming: struggles even at 1440p (though the bottleneck is alleviated at high settings). mostly struggles with video editing and general use.

@brando3342

2 ай бұрын

@@bearfm Interesting. I play mostly at 3440x1440 and haven’t managed to max out my CPU. Although, I think Red Dead 2 is probably the most CPU intensive game I’ve played. That game taxes the CPU quite a bit. My home PC is mostly for gaming. Maya is used for work, but through a remote connection.

Question: For 1080p 60fps, should I rather go with 12400f or 12600kf paired with my RTX 3060 12gb? Can't really decide between those two(as well as Ryzen 7 5700x, but that's another dillema).

Currently running the 9900k with arc a770. It does pretty decent. I can't utilize the arc controller because it needs a 12th gen or above. I just ordered a 12600k and mb that uses ddr4 ram from amazon. I will get it tomorrow. Plan on selling my 9900k and mb to recoup some of my money on the upgrade.

I think if you are getting a motherboard as well it's a much better idea to go with an am5 cpu. Considering how long am4 has been around and they're still making new am4 chips, you're much more likely to have an easier time if you decide to upgrade in the future

Upgrading from Ryzen 5 2600, can't wait to get this, it looks like it's amazing.

Not overclocking a K part feels like a bit of a waste however you spin it, imo.

Would love to see an overclocking video on this chip, these overlock quite nicely :)

Would be nice to pair it with an entry level GPU, if they bothered releasing one or the previous gen entry-level cards were any decent.

My setup is also a i5-12600kf which I got last December for about $120 and a 4070 super but with 64gb of 3600mhz ram. Definitely a great cpu for rasterized games, in Raytracing it does though start to become a bigger bottleneck and below 60fps in some games like Darktide.

@dianaalyssa8726

3 ай бұрын

I prefer RT off when it's an option. I found Raytracing disappointing even with 12900KF 7900XTX in Avatar last December. Am sure it's also not good on my 12700KF 7800XT.

@jerzyjerzykowski1281

3 ай бұрын

The bottleneck RT is probably not the processor but the graphics card.

You should check out the Ryzen 3500X. 6 Core 6 thread Chinese exclusive version of the r5 3600. Not a 3600g with a broken gpu so it has the full cache of the 3600x

i am thinking about upgrading my i5 3570k cpu setup to i5 8400 is it a good idea ?

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

You’ll definitely notice performance improvements for sure

I5-14500 or Ryzen 5 7600x for OBS, Adobe premiere Streaming at 1080p in Twitch?

@NathanBinks

3 ай бұрын

If the i5 has the igu built in as QuickSync is a must for AP and Streaming.

@misterhoudi2824

3 ай бұрын

@@NathanBinks will the 14600k work on B-series MOBO?

@NathanBinks

3 ай бұрын

@@misterhoudi2824 you can check the cpu support list for your motherboard on the manufacturer's website. You might need to a BIOS update for your motherboard to support the 14th Generation i5.

Please do a video on the RTX 3050 6gb model

My friend was upgrading from a 9700k and got a 12700kf off amazon for $200, seemed like a pretty good deal.

That was actually my choice for my current build, but those would go out of stock fast when on sale! So I ended up with a 12400 and an extra cooler instead.

is it a decent upgrade from a 12400k?

I have i5 13600kf. Would anyone here know why intel xtu speed optimizer overclock option gets grayed out and says doesn't support xtu 2.0. It worked for me a month ago but there was an update and now it gives me that message I mentioned above and doesn't work.

12600kf is worth every penny over 12400f if you own anything stronger than rtx 4070/ 7800xt and 240hz screen for online shooters or games like Asseto Corsa comp. etc..

thank you Sir.

Got this for my sons build for $154 new about 8 months ago and it felt like a steal then.

hi are the highest i5 14+ worth. little more money or go straight up to i7?

i have i7 12700kf and 3070Ti for 2 years+ and i will only upgrade the GPU to get more fps/vram and keep the rest of my pc as its still solid enough

@i-Envy.

3 ай бұрын

4070 ti super would be great since it has 16gb of vram

@remstesthd6784

3 ай бұрын

@@i-Envy. True but its a bit too expansive for what it is (70Ti Tier) if i have to put this much money i really want a huge jump in performance. i dont appreciate newer games really the next big one is gonna be GTA 6

@i-Envy.

3 ай бұрын

@@remstesthd6784 Well a 4070 ti super is 1.6x the performance of a 3070 ti but I understand the price is bad, I had an asus tuf gtx 1650 g6 and went to an msi ventus white 4060 2 weeks ago and it was amazing seeing 3x the performance of my old gpu ik it’s not the best choice out there for a price of almost 330$ but i wanted a card that would be good for streaming and recording in general since I’m planning to start a youtube channel really soon this month so i went with that instead of the 3060 which was actually a little bit more expensive or the rx 6650 xt which was the same price here in my country

Makes sense!

I was looking for a CPU upgrade but I already have an i5 12400f on a b660 msi mag motherboard so I think I need to go a bit higher to get a good fps increase, pairing with a 7900 xtx btw.

@dianaalyssa8726

3 ай бұрын

You can BIOS flash for 14th gen also an option if you want to drop an 13th/14th gen into that board to upgrade. My 12400F is paired with a 3060 12gb. My 12900KF is paired with a 7900XTX, 12700KF with a 7800XT. If you play highly cpu bound games you might notice a difference in upgrading cpus. My 12700KF can't raid and discord without microstuttering when I heal the floor during raid. Your B board does limit the TDP on the CPU, some performance loss if paired with a K chip, not huge. I did test 12700KF with 7900XTX also. I play 1440P but your resolution/use case will also be something to think about. I might pick up a 14700K for one of my rigs to upgrade. Casual gaming I found 12700KF fine really just a shame every time I have to consider upgrading again.

overclocking on these is kinda crazy i got 5.2ghz p cores and 4.2ghz on e cores without much messing around

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

That’s awesome I’ll have to test it out

@minglee4207

3 ай бұрын

What load voltage?

@Lurch-Bot

3 ай бұрын

This new Megahertz War isn't any good for consumers. At that point, you are burning a lot more power for very little performance increase.

@Frozoken

Ай бұрын

and, its still +15% performance from the stock 4.5ghz all core. Thats pretty good man who cares about power get solar​@Lurch-Bot

Just got this cpu and ready for my first build, pairing it up with z790 tomahawk wifi MB and a 2nd hand 2080 super ,ore upgrade than newbuild tbh. Whats your thoughts or anyone in comments.

@dianaalyssa8726

3 ай бұрын

Z790 has better memory support assuming DDR5 speeds, Z690 I patched them for 14th but ending up shuffling around the computer ram kits so each is QVL now, that seems to be good. I've spent more time than I cared to tuning DDR5 on B760M & Z690 boards, I start with 4800 supported speed for 12th gen and try XMP on/tune the memory on each machine, 5600-6000 seems to work most times. Sounds like a solid build. There is more performance in Z board pairing with K chip, not limiting the wattage to the CPU (as a B board does). I've used the 12700KF and 12900KF is my main still (might upgrade a machine to a 14700K). You can always upgrade the GPU later if you feel the need. Pairings I have B760M with 12400F 3060 12gb, 12700KF with 7800XT, 12900KF 7900XTX. Upgrading from a 9600K originally to a 12700K it was noticeable how much more snappy the desktop and game felt, 1440P didn't stutter. Only gripe I have 1440P 12700KF has some raid microstutter that the 12900KF doesn't. But it games fine outside of that highly CPU bound scenario. P cores E cores has been a great experience, I was worried about it coming from the 6 core 9600K with game compatibility and whatnot. I actually found with 12700KF & 12900KF some games I have to cap frames.

@currymuncher9814

3 ай бұрын

@@dianaalyssa8726 Fantastic reply TY so much for this, appreciated .

Hi Steve!

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

Hi!

@mikkodoria4778

3 ай бұрын

SO he is also 1 of the steves?

@nicane-9966

3 ай бұрын

@@mikkodoria4778way to many steves man...

@mikkodoria4778

3 ай бұрын

@@nicane-9966 not enough steves 😆

I don't get the value of this. Note: I'm in Australia so prices may differ greatly. I'd be looking more at the i7-12700kf or other variants. Even if the performance isn't needed it's way easier to sell when you decide to upgrade. I actually ended up getting an i5-14600k instead, just to be on current gen and the price was quite competitive. Cheers!

I have this paired w/my 4080SFE and it's awsome

The 12400F in my country is the same price as a 5600 and cheaper than the 5600x, I might pick up a 12400f to replace my i5 4460 which I have paired with an RX 6600 that I got as a gift(hence the weird pairing) since I can No longer play any modern games with this CPU. Cyberpunk can barely go past 30FPS most of the time. BTW will an H610 motherboard support a 14400 with a power limit? Also love your content.

@DaCicatrice

3 ай бұрын

I've got an rx6600 with an i5 4670k. Definitely thinking about that juicy 12400f upgrade. Nice rig

@ashenwattegedera

3 ай бұрын

@@DaCicatrice Yep I'm forced to upgrade now, B85 motherboard died yesterday. I don't wanna spend more money on this platform so I just put my pc aside for now until I save up money to upgrade. I'll just sell the 4460 and DDR3 ram for some extra cash.

How about an i5-13500?

12th and 13th gen are pretty much similar performance and aliexpress has had a few good deals recently on intel processors.

Don't these use a lot of power? I also remember Hardware Unboxed showing most of the budget B660 boards they tested being unable to run the 12600k full speed.

I wonder if this would be a worthwhile upgrade for someone currently on the i5 10400...

@mrshinobigaming8447

3 ай бұрын

In productivety yes worth it In gaming depends on gpu This cpu max supports rx 7700xt without bottleneck on 1080p

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but remember you’ll need a new board too :)

@inGameweTrusted

3 ай бұрын

​@@mrshinobigaming8447 Wrong information..7700xt not for 1080p Also 10400 bottlenecking check tests bf2042 and The Finals....

Is this cpu good paired with the RX 7600?

Got this paired with a 3080ti for 4k gaming - works really well for the price

It's at a good price however the i5 13400f is similar and has half (65w) the base power draw and a similar performance. That 125w base draw is not needed now it's spring and the heating is off

@chovekb

2 ай бұрын

They both draw almost the same watts, and one is 125W down to 65, while the other is 65W up to 125 LOOL and both have 150W PL2, just that the K is unlocked, has an unlocked SoC voltage too and unlimited PL2 Tau Limit, also the igpu is better, so in general the 12600K is better.

Good comparison. I'd buy the 12600K (not the KF variant due to a lack of iGPU) and pair it with a good motherboard. H610 motherboards are like the AMD B series: they won't have the greatest feature set, won't run multiple sticks of RAM at their highest speed available, and in some cases won't even support 4 sticks of RAM at all. I'd also possibly get the i9 version of the stock cooler, on somewhere like eBay, because why not. And besides, the stock i9 cooler (for the 14900 non-K) would be far more suited to cooling this, rather than cooling the i9 it was intended to do. Of course, you could get a Z690 or Z790 board, get this chip, then upgrade to a 14900K or even 14900KS later on down the line.

7500F was 107USD on Aliexpress anniversary promo, am5 is not the best budget friendly platform, but price performance ratio seems okay 100usd 2x16 6000cl30 120-150 decent b650 board

The problem I have with calling these 12 series and later "budget" or even "mid range", is that one must replace their entire platform just to get one of these chips running at all. Which means the rig is going to cost a lot more than building something from earlier generation platforms.

@yuvanraj2271

3 ай бұрын

Most don't upgrade for many years. And at that time, you would have gotten a new platform anyway.

I wish price changes happen here where im at. The 12400, 13400, and 14400 are around the same price with like 10-20usd price difference

Love to see a comparison betwen that n the R5 7500F,with a $700+ GPU n a sub $300gpu

Please, do a video about the i7-12700K.

@chasethefeel

3 ай бұрын

its pretty much the same performance you should go for 13700k instead

@dianaalyssa8726

3 ай бұрын

Solid CPU, Picked mine up last year $215, still see the deals around 200-215 USD. Granted 14700K(F) exist now around 400. But you can pair 12700KF with Z690. Used a B board before I upgraded mine. 12900KF is stronger than my 12700KF. But 13th/14th might be a better buy as improvements were made. We have a 12400F in the house for office/NAS. The price matters a lot you could make a reasonable cheap 12700KF for sales if they stack. A 13700K/14700K if you have the budget would be slightly better in how long it will last before wanting another upgrade for gaming.

@saricubra2867

3 ай бұрын

@@chasethefeel Not the same (extra cache, cores and clocks), the 13700K is pretty much a better 12900K, 25% higher multithread perfomance vs the 12700K while pulling 60% more power. It's an overrated CPU.

@chasethefeel

3 ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 350$ for 13700k that has 30mb of l2 cache or 200$ 12700k which has 12? 12600k and 12700k are the same product for playing games. 13700k beats 12900k in gaming.

@nicane-9966

3 ай бұрын

yeah it would be very nice, the 12700kf is 190dls right now, i dont think there is anything better for workstation cheap, and solid for gaming.

Good video but I have questions. Was this 12600K tested the way a K CPU should be? What I mean is, was all that garbage power saving stuff turned off? C states, speedshift, thermal monitor, speedstep and whatever else they've invented? To me, buying a K cpu while leaving all that garbage on defeats the purpose. Unless something has changed since I had a K series cpu (have the 12400f now) then you should be able to get full speeds out of that K cpu with all the power saving garbage off? I ask because I'm not impressed by the performance jump compared to my 12400f and the price difference between these CPUs in the past has easily been $100 or more and that performance difference in gaming was laughable for that price difference.

@toddwerther188

3 ай бұрын

My 24/7 o/c is Pcore 5.0 and Ecore 4.0 on all cores. It can do 5.3 all cores but then I have to downclock RAM from cl16 DDR4 3600 to 3500 due to ring clock. I'm running it on a Z790 that I got a good deal on refurbished. I purposely bought older gen for this new build due to bang for buck. My 12600KF was $140 pre black friday in the states.

@Frozoken

Ай бұрын

Lol you already know the answer is no although i completely agree these features just neuter performance.

Micro center has a bundle, 12600kf, 16gb ddr4 and msi MB for $250, can’t beat that for brand new parts.

Got this CPU for $74 at Micro Center today. They gave me discount because I ordered the CPU with certain DDR4 memory. I just returned the memory before I left the store because I had DDR4 memory already. Feels like I stole it. Got a Z690 mini itx mb and a i5 12600kf for $242 total, tax included. Super happy with my purchase.

Been looking at a i5 14500 to replace my R5 3600, myself. No idea why, as I don't do anything CPU intensive outside of Football Manager. I think it's just my "new computer every 4-5 years" mindset kicking in.

@Dag242Films

3 ай бұрын

Generally speaking, if you have a decent cpu you can get closer to 6 or 7 years before you’ll notice a difference. I’d also recommend looking into a 5800x3d and keeping your same motherboard and ram, that thing is a beast

@danimayb

3 ай бұрын

You have a bunch upgrade options on your AM4 platform, Why change everything? But obviously the new computer mindset playing a part here lol

@fattomandeibu

3 ай бұрын

@@Dag242Films The motherboard seems a bit problematic(certain BIOS options, such as virtualisation will cause blue screens every hour or so, and yes, the BIOS is up to date, really hurts for emulating old games from when I was a teenager), and I like the idea of having e-cores for background tasks, as well as DDR5 RAM.

@fattomandeibu

3 ай бұрын

@@mozzjones6943 It's literally turning on virtualisation in the BIOS causes my computer to blue screen every hour, once I turn it off it stops. Plus, the main issue(for some reason I forgot) is that the board only has 1 NVMe socket and I'd long(I mean 2 years here) run out of space on my C: drive and everything is being thrown onto SATA drives, which are also getting increasingly full. I do have a free PCIe socket to plug an extra SATA controller and enough power cables to handle it, but that sounds like a cable management nightmare.

I’ve had this cpu for awhile with an rx 6700 10gb and it provides a nice gaming experience

I have the i5 11600kf paired with a 3060ti.

I will never again buy a CPU without an iGPU. Never. NEEEVEEEEEEER. It's not just for troubleshooting purposes, but the iGPU, at least Intel with quick sync, can help in video editing even when you use your dGPU for it. Still good video though. :)

@xuimod

3 ай бұрын

How big of a difference does QuickSync make in video editing?

@TrusteftTech

3 ай бұрын

@@xuimod I don't have specific numbers to give you. The overall experience is smoother, as long as the software supports quick sync of course. Even if you use an editor which supports GPU rendering, there is always some off loading to the quick sync. Now if you also do other things, say you are rending something with the GPU and say watching KZread videos, this makes it smoother too.

12600 seems to be the better performing for more fps and clock speed than the 12400 to save $10-$15 usd spend the extra for smoother gaming with better system latency and a higher fps is in some titles good review earned my sub

Nice performance at the price, but I think I'd still choose the Ryzen 7600x and maybe get a drop in upgrade down the road.

Here in canada a 12700kf sells for 165 usd

I have 12400f is it worth me upgrading to the 12600f ? Or 12700f ? 16 gb ram Rtx 4070

@Q-bazZ

3 ай бұрын

I would go for a 12700...

@LurkingLarper

3 ай бұрын

You shouldn't really upgrade into either unless you get a really cracking good deal and can sell your old part for change. The performance difference won't really be all that noticeable and you'd be much better off waiting for Zen 5 release this summer or Intel Arrow Lake by the last quarter for some real CPU performance gains.

@inGameweTrusted

3 ай бұрын

If you have B660 or Z690? ok ..If H 610 not recommended

I feel like 13th 14th gen i3s are not worth it for 4-5 fps increase, got myself a still guranteed i3-12100F for 53 dolars which will satisfy me for for sure and bought like a NZXT 210i Mini Itx Case for 40 bucks new they were liquafying their stocks bought the last one And Now I'll get like a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT for 155 dolars Overral I know the CPU will bottleneck the GPU I'll get like a i5-12600KF maybe in the future to close the gap within them. How does my budget gatherin sounds ? any good ?

@RandomGaminginHD

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s a nice combo maybe see how much different rx 6000 cards are in price

@leasshurp

3 ай бұрын

@@RandomGaminginHD they are roundabout same price but 5700 is 10% more fps overall in the games with faster VRAM too

Would've liked you testing the i5-13500 or x500 Intel CPUs more in general. The 13500 is significantly stronger than an i5-13400. It's almost a 13600 for way less money, at least in Norway where I live.

People often discount the e-cores on these chips, but they're pretty darn good. Sure, they're close to like a zen + part, but that still means you have a ryzen 3 2100 glued onto your Ryzen 5 7600 equivalent The i5-12600 gets a thumbsup at the right price

Get a 13400f/14400f over the 12600kf. Very similar performance only with a slightly higher price. Your temps and power usage will be much lower too (I say 13/14400f since they’re the same price rn in my region)

Currently have this cpu and it’s not enough for my rtx 4070 looking for a 13900k

The 12400F overclocked to 5ghz+ offers similar performance but if the 12600kf does drop down to less than 160$ it could make a decent buy/upgrade especially for productivity… the 12600 is still well over 200$ here and the 12400 can be had for less than 140$Cad

Dude, before I've seen your video, I came to the very same conclusions. A 5700X + a decent B550 + 32Gb DDR4 ram is still more expensive here (Brazil) than a 12600KF + B660 with the same ram. While the 12600KF delivers more performance than the 5700X, there is room for a future 14th gen upgrade, as the 14700. In reality, the 12600KF is closer to a Ryzen 7600, even with DDR4, while its mobo+ram bundle costs around 200usd less... so, in this scenario, Intel was the best choice for me.