I Went off PEDs for 9 MONTHS (And THIS is What Happened)
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0:00 Intro
0:27 When I Started and Why I Went Off
1:08 We Need an Open Discussion
2:18 What Going on Was Like
3:21 Aggression/Assertiveness
4:47 Trade-offs/Obstacles
6:18 My Experience Going Off
8:05 Reacting to My Natty Pics
14:35 Sperm and Testosterone Analysis
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@randomdude71kwnd
Жыл бұрын
Hey, did you make this comment yourself? I know it's yours but it looks way too much like those fake accounts you see so much nowadays. Just thought I'd say it maybe it helps
@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170
Жыл бұрын
PEDs are for losers, way to ruin your health
Alex is such a chad. No bs, straight to the point. Just 71k subs for such a goldmine is criminal.
@AlexanderBromley
2 жыл бұрын
Too kind.
@rh.m6660
2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree. He's not mainstream and therefore has a low amount of subs. If anything it shows he's not selling out with bullshit generic content. A channel for the true fan of strength sports.
@hej9110
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly one year ago he had 10k? So I'm glad his channel is becoming more and more popular
@ED6499.
2 жыл бұрын
Stay natty bro
@7474.
2 жыл бұрын
71K Plus 1 from this guy
Am I the only person that believes once you use PEDS you shouldn’t call yourself a natty even if you quit PEDS?
@utgardkraft1412
2 жыл бұрын
Im taking a seat right here next to ya. Agree
@m-a-t-t6869
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@AlexanderBromley
2 жыл бұрын
Interested in your perspective. Why is that? (Btw, I have zero desire to wave the 'natural' flag or compete in tested divsions)
@DCJayhawk57
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderBromley I think he may be referencing the possibility that the myonuclei gained from PED use don't go away, so you may be more responsive to training or may maintain a higher LBM than you would naturally despite coming off gear. Now, I've never read or heard anything about how much this actually impacts gym progress realistically, and I'm not sure this is something that could even be studied reliably given how much variation there is from person to person.
@AlexanderBromley
2 жыл бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57 I was unaware of that. My gut tells me that the havoc that gets wreaked on your endocrine system and pscyhology more than outweighs that but that's just a guess; would be an interesting study to see if anyone could find a meanginful way to do it. Not that I have any way of substantiating it, but i legitimately believe I would be stronger right now if I never went on; less injuries, less swings in performance, less comebacks. But who knows, maybe I have a big upswing coming.
This kind of honesty is truly rare. The world would be million times better if more people would act like this.
@jdennis867
2 жыл бұрын
Larry wheels and noel were the first ppl on the social media platform that were honest with their use of ped and now suddenly everybody decides to come clean.
@goatbearman514
Жыл бұрын
@@jdennis867 Pete Rubish was the first one. He started talking openly about peds already in 2014
@jdennis867
Жыл бұрын
@@goatbearman514 yea idk who tf that is and I'm pretty sure most ppl don't either.
@goatbearman514
Жыл бұрын
@@jdennis867 Most people definitely know who Pete Rubish is lol. You gotta be kidding
Extremely interesting analysis
Thanks for sharing your journey! I've found Pete Rubish's "after sauce" content to be quite interesting as well.
This is probably one of the most honest (fitness) videos that will ever be on youtube. hats off
@juanpedro9799
2 жыл бұрын
hundred like this one
This is really nice to hear. I am so over hearing KZreadrs that I have listened to for years say so often “work hard, eat right, rest” and leaving out the cold fact that their PED use is fundamental to their consistent muscle and strength gains. I’m not talking about the ones who lie about it, they are not worth listening too. I’m not even talking about the cool ones who are honest if vague about it. I’m talking about the dudes who just fail to mention that PEDs make it so that they are playing a very different game that those of us who don’t use.
@teedee1167
2 жыл бұрын
So true man. Ppl have to be more honest with their viewers
@johntrains1317
2 жыл бұрын
Saaame
@SouthpawJoe
2 жыл бұрын
@@teedee1167 I'd argue people just need to be more honest in general xD
@PhiyackYuh
2 жыл бұрын
Where have you seen any of these athletes being natural doing strength events? They are always on peds. I always knew this guys was on peds. You seen any jacked person as they get older when you start to lose muscle due to ageing. Come on now
@pretty_flaco
2 жыл бұрын
@@SouthpawJoe i’ll counter-argue that they’re not obligated to say if they previously used or currently on PEDs. It’s different if the outright lie and proclaim they’re lifetime natty when in fact they’ve been through cycles
I vote going natty. Having a kid, I think re-approaching your health and fitness in a more well rounded standpoint for overall long-term sustainability and health will have the most positive impact on your presence in your child's life. Cardiovascular health, calisthenics, flexibility, in addition to the weights at the gym will ensure you are able to play and keep up with your child throughout their life in ways that other parents cannot, in addition to improving your long-term quality of life.
@sleepyjo9340
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'3, big framed and natty. While I've been training on and off for years, I can now red 100s for multiple reps. I can also do an hour of cardio no issues. Font think I'll ever hop on.
@sec9788
2 жыл бұрын
@@sleepyjo9340 Good on you. It means more. Seriously. Anyone can cheat to look impressive but it’s the day in day out “shnooks” (to quote Ray Liotta-at the end of Goodfellas 😁) that grind and put in the work for even the smallest gains and DON’T take the easy road that are the most impressive.
@tomomasta3254
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds boring
@Pepe-pq3om
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomomasta3254 It does
@MrGoranPa
Жыл бұрын
Or selling soul to the devil who will come for check when least wanted. For couple of pounds on the bar...
Alex, there’s so much value in this video. Thank you for the true transparency. The good the bad and the ugly. It shows a tremendous amount of acceptance and maturity on your end to be so transparent. It’s worth the praise.
Cool story. I was tempted to use so many times back in High School and in my 20s. I was lucky and had a pretty good natural build and could lift fairly well. What got annoying was watching my friends who naturally I was far stronger than matching me and then surpassing me due to steroids. Still before this I did a large research project that was all about the dangers of steroids and I had interviewed many users that warned me it was not worth it. I am 47 now, I think I look a bit better than I did in my 20s and still have never used Peds. I will never be as strong as you are Alex, but I am ok with that. Hope all is well with you and your family.
I'm 31 and I've never been on gear before. I train and diet consistently but I was having issues. Back in November I got tested and my total testosterone was at 186 ng/dl and my free was at 11.1 pg/mL. I was put on 25mg of Clomid daily starting in January. When I got tested again at the end of April my total test was 893. I feel way better and it resolved the issues I was having. Its been a life saver. I had a semen analysis done in April as well and everything came back great. I wish I had one before January so I could have compared results. I'm reasonably certain that my count would have been low prior to Clomid. It made a huge difference for me, my training, and hopefully we can get pregnant soon!
@AlexanderBromley
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! Good luck
@abner2193
2 жыл бұрын
Are you just on clomid or other medication? It does have some side effects like eye issues which you should look out for.
@total6502
2 жыл бұрын
what was the cause of that?
@DaBrute
2 жыл бұрын
Any idea what caused your levels to tank? Mine dropped over 30% in the past couple years but the dr doesn't seem concerned since it's still "normal" at 460 ng. But I can see and feel the difference in my body
@schraderade
2 жыл бұрын
@@DaBrute I'm not sure, I had never had them checked before so I have nothing to compare it to. I'd been consistently training and dieting for 3 years which should have brought my levels up. I never thought I'd have low T. I found out my uncle also has low T so maybe is hereditary?
Thanks for making yourself vulnerable, open & honest! Stand up dude in my book!
Dude I found your channel recently and absolutely love it. You’re honest, accomplished, educated, and communicate very well. I can’t do any form of gear because of my job and love seeing this honest analysis of your experiences both on and off gear and your lab numbers. Subscribed.
it is SO refreshing to finally here someone speak about this openly. thank you so much
This is awesome information that I don't see being talked about. Thank you for putting this out there
One of the most straight-forward, no bs personal opinions on the topic I've seen. Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate you sharing your personal experience, genuinely
Appreciate your candor on a variety of topics that aren't easy to talk about. Love your content and what you're doing for the community!
Recent subscriber, love your channel already. I think the most valuable thing we can learn from lifters like you is your mentality. It speaks volumes that you can go through the highs and lows of life and mentally stay in the pocket regardless of the struggles you face. I struggled with obesity in the past and yoyo-dieting and I remember the mental toll it took when I tore something in the gym and binged back a bunch of weight I had struggled to lose in depression. It's really motivating and inspirational to see you set your goals and simply handle the problems that come up with stoicism and a can-do mentality. When we see champions online it's easy for people like me to say "Oh, this guy is just a specimen and I suck, I'll never achieve anything close to that so why bother?". Videos like this demonstrate real strength and holds people that aren't accomplishing what they want responsible to do better, because it humanizes people who achieve a lot in life. Regardless of what you go for I think your success in your endeavors is inevitable with your approach to life.
I genuinely appreciate the brutal honesty when it came to the aggression/assertiveness. Not many guys would talk about it like that
Friendly word of advice. Keep off, at least until your first kid is born. IVF tends to fall far more often than not, and a lot of those pregnancies end up as late miscarriages. This has just been my experience, as well as the experience of many people in our support group.
I appreciate your candor Bromley. Glad you can use your platform to do some useful self-reflection
I appreciate your story, hope everything works out awesomely for you, subscribed.
This is without a doubt the best video on this topic.. Sir you've always delivered the most articulate and well thought out videos on training and fitness..Please keep it going..
Glad to see your doing well Alex. I met you at your gym back in 2018. Love your content and I wish you the best. The gym you built is still going strong!
Thanks for this video! Your honesty just got you a new subscriber and I'm hoping that it will get you a lot more 🙏🏽
I think you need to look at this also from the perspective of a father, which you already plan to be. Your longevity and health should be a part of the equation for what you do in the future regarding gear.
Totally impressed with your openness. Thank you!
You are really well spoken and very easy to listen to. You told this story very well, great video
Much respect Alex! Can’t wait to watch this new journey! Much love and best of luck sir!
A very brave, informative video Alex. As someone who recently discovered your channel, I am truly glad to have found this great source of information. Keep up the good work and wish you and your family all the best!
Thanks for the info and great honesty.
Thanks for the honesty! Hope the IVF turns out well and the channel grows -- you deserve it. Refreshing to hear about your journey. I stumbled onto your vids by accident but continue to return since the integrity is apparent. All the best.
Thanks for the honesty, good luck with your numbers
Dude this is awesome! Really cool to see how you’re getting on!
Great video I absolutely respect your candor and your utmost honesty no lies no BS no dodging what you took props for being upfront and honest 💯👍👍💪
Fantastic video. Thanks for the openness and honesty.
Thanks for the honesty. It’s refreshing to hear some actual information about PEDs
Buddy thank you as allways for your sharing and the honisty that is what this industry needs! Fitness, Bodybuilding, Strong Man, All of it!
This is the first post I have seen from you and it is good stuff. Thanks for putting your story out there and being so open. I really think with how influential these platforms are this kind of honesty needs to happen. I don't care who uses but they shouldn't pretend like they don't.
Very inspiring! Thanks for the video! I’m now subscribed!
strong content. I'm more of an endurance athlete, training for a marathon und trying to keep some strength and this is the only strength/weightlifting related channel i regularly consume. Wish you all the best
Appreciate the honesty bro. Wish you well man
Those in the know recognize this channel as gold. Dave Tate has name dropped him a few times in conversation. His base strength book should be required reading.
Great share bud. This was as honest as I have ever seen.
Another great take. Not glamorizing it, but not pretending like it doesn’t have its advantages. Thanks for the perspective
congrats man, I only started training again after my college years because I had my daughter and realized I wanted to be the best I can be, and I know that training brought that out of me. Having a kid will make you ID what's important and why, and I'm pretty sure that you'll figure out what your ideal training and PED use kind of stuff will be. for me I know it's just not worth it, but I'm not a competitor, and it's far from such a simple choice there. I can tell you though that something actually meaningful ironically AlphaDestiny (yes really) said about bodybuilder deaths actually is that John Meadows, for example, was loved and respected not for his maintenance of his physique but because of who he was and the knowledge and care he brought to everyone. Basically, you don't have to be who you *were* to be valuable and important as you *are*. It's ok to change- frankly, it's the most important thing, and it's ok to recognize what really matters, and what doesn't. Whatever happens you'll kill it, for sure, and best of luck
This is an extremely valuable video on this topic!
thanks for this honest insight !
I look forward to this content. I haven't really considered gear yet, but with my goals that decision will come up eventually. I would like to see the after effects that you deal with. Thanks for doing this.
What a great, honest analysis.
I don't strength train competitively, but I truly appreciate this information. To the point without the fluff. Thank you.
Love the honesty, hope all is well.
PHENOMENAL VIDEO Alex. I really appreciate this video and I'm sure others do as well! Thanks!
Thank you for the honest talk, Alex. Censoring topics is venom for advancing knowledge and wisdom.
Super honest conversation, im new and I subsribed!
This was really interesting and informative! Thank you
Great video. Very powerful message.
I respect your honesty and wish you all the best in your journey. Maybe others can learn from your mistakes.
@marc2638
2 жыл бұрын
What mistakes?? Let's call them choices and decisions. A mistake is getting a girl pregnant you didn't mean to get pregnant that's that's mistake, hitting a brick wall full tilt is a mistake, running from the cops is a mistake, marrying 4 times is a mistake shit getting married once is a mistake taking gear is a choice. I hate how people say taking gear is a mistake,,,,, it's not a mistake it's I suppose like everything else in life a choice.
Hey man I just want to say as a student who cannot afford to buy a programme your videos mean the world to me. Thank you❤️
Content never disappoints
really insightful and interesting, appreciate you sharing this.
Very wellspoken. appreciate all the info that you shared
This is fascinating. Excellent video
This is a fantastic video. 👍👍 Thank you for sharing all of this.
Very great and informative slaute for this work
Great vid!
So cool to hear ppl talk about it.
Once I hit my late 40's, I'm 57 now, I was tempted to start doing TRT etc but after research I just didn't want to get caught up in something I'd have to keep taking the rest of my life . I know enough about replacing something the body makes , and just finding ways to stimulate the body to make it on it's own. I think Western medicine is too quick to take the first route. Now I don't compete so just talking staying in shape and feeling good. And I'm doing great in both categories without any PED's. I have changed a lot of my diet and added things to my workouts that are advised to raise T levels and seem to. My energy is great, all the "plumbing" works same as always and I can put on muscle easy so life is good for me.
@ChazZen
Жыл бұрын
the drop off in T after 40 is very slow and minimal and probably due to lifestyle more than age its self
I’ve never heard this honest of a conversation.
Finally someone with the balls to be honest about the use. Years ago I used roids for a bit being deca and ganabol not at the same time and ended up hurting my shoulder even more than I actually had. Great video and cheers from Canada.
excellent video. I appreciate how honest and open you are. Very informative. It would have been great to hear about your compounds and dosages but I understand why you may not have included those details.
I really appreciate this 🙏 I just subscribed. Keep up the great work.
Appreciate the honesty!
I always enjoy your channnel- very informative and professional! I respect your candor about your PED use!
Fucking great video man. Really appreciate you putting this out there. I’m definitely someone on the naïve end of the spectrum around this stuff, but this was quite revelatory. My own journey is natty, but this is a decent confidence boost. It eliminates some of my disappointment in my lack of progress 💪🏽. Lastly, it should be mentioned, you’re very well spoken and a great communicator. This deserves high praise 💪🏽.
Excellent video thank you for your honesty.
The BEST self-description of all time there Bromley. Lord I lol’d on that one 😂
Great info man. thank you for the honest insight
Great video man. Thank you.
Great info! Honesty in the fitness space is few and far between.
Aye, I greatly appreciate you putting this out there and the openness about such! Going to have to follow more of your videos now! That's quite impressive that you were able to rebound, I'd figure after so many years that self-castration had occurred, so it's impressive your numbers still came back (even apparently before hoping on the clomid from your doctor for the test recovery). You are right in that testosterone doesn't always dictate strength or size... before I got back into strength training I was doing a lot of full body conditioning and got an amazing physique, meanwhile my test levels were only about 380 which I consider to be pretty low on the scale...
I like your honesty. Subscribed.
Appreciate your honesty, and love the content. It feels like I am PR'ing every week on Bull Mastiff. The topic also hits close to home. I've considered PEDs, but with the idea of starting a family soon, I've held off.
@CalvinCandieMO
Жыл бұрын
Cry more. Stay natty and insecure and continue have guys like me make you look tiny.
Amazing, you'll come back even stronger,but also wiser.
this is a banging video to have done. well done.
Great video man!
Thank you for the honesty.
Good luck with the family attempts Bromley, they can definitely shift your perspective on what’s important
@chrisvig123
2 жыл бұрын
When you realize you want to live past 40 for your kids and don’t like walking around huge and feeling sick all the time 😯
@stevenkingsley7781
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisvig123 my big goal was to be able to tie my shoes and breathe at the same time! Fed up of having to choose one or the other!!
Nice video and good luck with the kid!
First video I've watched of yours. You're hilarious! Love it!
Thank you for sharing your story.
Respect to you Alex
You gotta remind yourself what you are training for. Well said.
Love this. Thanks for sharing. I vote you stay natty and and be an inspiration for middle aged men like me. Good luck whatever you choose. And good luck with building your family.
Great video!
Accretion disk of carbs and cakes... I'm dying over here :)
Nothing compares to having a family. Kudos for LIVING, Mr. Bromley.
What I’d like to see - A come back with new PR’s to be made, sounds like an awesome challenge to push the ceiling of potential. To also see what being bigger, leaner, conditioned and stronger than you are now does in improving your test levels and general health over time.