I've used KDE exclusively for a month, here's my opinion - KDE Plasma Review

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I've been using Manjaro KDE on my new Slimbook desktop for a month now, so here are my conclusions.
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I used Manjaro KDE for the past month. I applied a bunch of tweaks to it, from using Latte Dock to achieve a look and feel I liked, to changing the widget theme, the position of window controls, making windows appear centered, and other small tweaks here and there.
If you want to achieve a similar look, you can follow a video from linux Scoop, I left a link in the description below. I didn't apply everything he did there, I mainly took the Latte Dock and plasma themes.
Now that this is out of the way, let's begin with what I liked about KDE Plasma.
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What I liked
Apart from completely changing the layout, the number of small things you can change is just amazing: from how the task manager looks and behaves, to which notification icons you want to see and when, or the clock style, you can really change everything you want.
I also enjoy the widget system, that you can add to your desktop. I added my Video folder, and a few system monitoring ones,, but that's just the tip of the iceberg here. There are hundreds of widgets you can download from the Plasma, let's call it "store" for lack of a better word.
It was nice to rediscover notification icons, especially how they've been integrated in plasma. They all feel part of the same interface, which is rare. Usually, you get a disjointed collection of icons of varying shapes, sizes and colors, but here, they're all looking nice and similar, and I must admit I had missed them quite a lot on elementary OS.
Having a full-featured menu is also very refreshing. It's not just a list of apps, or categories, you also get access to your favorite folders, your recent files history, and, more importantly, it has file search.
Another thing that I missed, is KDE Connect. I used it on elementary OS, but there is no way to really integrate it, especially since the elementary OS notification system doesn't really support actionable notifications, so there was no way to answer messages, or share files, so it was a glorified remote control.
What I don't like
Of course, not everything is roses and rainbows. There are things that I don't really like about KDE as a desktop environment.
The default theme, in light mode, is pretty bland and looks a bit old, especially the buttons. I'm using the daark theme which kinda resolves the issue, but the default applications theme really needs an update, in my opinion.
My main issue here is with applications. The default suite of applications in KDE is very inconsistent. On the one hand, you have apps that have really simple defaults, and a lot of power under the hood if you need it, like Dolphin. On the other hand, you have applications that really want you to see every single feature, panel, and option available, right out of the box, like the Calendar.
There also seem to be a less sizable community developing KDE apps as on GNOME or elementary OS. A lot of the apps are pretty old, and look it, like Korganizer, or Kmail. I couldn't find a todo list application along the lines of Getting Things GNOME or Planner. I couldn't find an equivalent to Audacity for the KDE desktop.
Of course, you can always install non-KDE apps on KDE, and that's what I did, with the GIMP, Planner, or Audacity.
And that's where KDE grabs the advantage again: it integrates GTK apps a lot better than GNOME integrates Qt apps. The fact that you can choose any theme you want for GTK apps under KDE is great, because it means these things will look a lot better integrated, and not feel so alien.
Using KDE apps on GNOME or Elementary OS is a weird experience, as they really don't look or feel native, but GTK apps on KDE feel just at home.
Now I praised the avalanche of settings before, and I'm not going to apologize for it, but it's also a bit of a hassle sometimes to find a specific thing you're looking for.

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  • @TheLinuxEXP
    @TheLinuxEXP3 жыл бұрын

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  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, I prepared the upload in advance :)

  • @DREDKNOT2063

    @DREDKNOT2063

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm quite new to Linux, as of now I'm currently using pop_os, I'd like to know if while using kdm will tweaks an extensions still work an flatpaks, specifically I need something like vitals to monitor my Temps and greewithenvy an nvidia x server settings for my gpu can I still be able to do that with kdm

  • @MarloMitchell
    @MarloMitchell3 жыл бұрын

    For me the great thing about KDE is how customizable it is, the bad thing about KDE is how customizable it is. All the options feel overwhelming.

  • @duser

    @duser

    3 жыл бұрын

    I totally understand! Dolphin was like that for me at first. hated it because of all the hidden options, but began to appreciate it after learning a bit more and adding shortcuts to stuff i find use of. I guess thats the best way to use KDE. Explore, set and forget.

  • @nootics

    @nootics

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@duser lol this comment could have come from a tiling WM user as well.

  • @dand337

    @dand337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, kde developers don't value importance of a setting. Such an approach ruins everything, even if there are aspects where plasma thrive.

  • @alexweissnicht9545

    @alexweissnicht9545

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dand337 what do you mean with that?

  • @dand337

    @dand337

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexweissnicht9545 That overly customizable desktop is also a bad thing. Even if in fact kde was not to hard to navigate, the amount of options, little tweaks is just overwhelming. Macs, gnome, deepin have proven that focus on the out of the box experience and including only essential options is just better. The perfect comparison would be new and old Windows 10 file manager. The best tool is dead simple/minimalistic on the outside, but also more and more powerful as you start exploring it. KDE gives me an impression of a pile of stacked garbage

  • @gabrieleguarise4129
    @gabrieleguarise41293 жыл бұрын

    KDE, even by default, is so complete I cannot think about another desktop environment. It's so ready to use even for people that don't want to customize anything.

  • @realhumanist71

    @realhumanist71

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love the desktop, too, but small quibble, it's not called KDE anymore. That's the organization behind it. It's called Plasma now or KDE Plasma if you like. :)

  • @realhumanist71

    @realhumanist71

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-th5mp1cv3h Sort of. It's like having a Chevrolet Cavalier and saying you have a GM. KDE is the organisation that makes the Plasma desktop. Plasma is the desktop environment. The KDE organization makes it. Back when it was used, nobody called the Unity desktop Canonical.

  • @ShaunakHub
    @ShaunakHub3 жыл бұрын

    The best part of KDE is its customization. Another awesome thing about KDE is that it hardly ever breaks (customizations) when you upgrade KDE.

  • @trashbeansoup2467

    @trashbeansoup2467

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...oooh "hardly ever" sounds so good! 😁

  • @sologouda6180

    @sologouda6180

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't agree with that. When upgraded from Ubuntu 21 to 22 the whole thing broke.

  • @chromacat248
    @chromacat2483 жыл бұрын

    i've been doing this challenge for over a year

  • @karanvora2674

    @karanvora2674

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep since ubuntu released 20.04.

  • @siontheodorus1501

    @siontheodorus1501

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@karanvora2674 is ubuntu 20.04 that bad?

  • @karanvora2674

    @karanvora2674

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@siontheodorus1501 kde is a desktop environment. You'll still need a distro. I'm using Ubuntu

  • @rubenproost2552

    @rubenproost2552

    3 жыл бұрын

    7 years for me.

  • @rubenproost2552

    @rubenproost2552

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@siontheodorus1501 i liked 18.04 better. And of course I mean Kubuntu.

  • @orrotico1177
    @orrotico11772 жыл бұрын

    KDE is the reason why I use Linux. I was able to build my own workflow thanks to the big number of customizations it allows! Nice video!

  • @ContemplativeCat
    @ContemplativeCat2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent review! All praise and criticisms are spot on, you show where Plasma really shines and where it really could use improvement. You're fair and balanced, and show real depth of knowledge using KDE Plasma which is sorely lacking in some reviews I've seen. Great stuff!

  • @theodoros_1234
    @theodoros_12343 жыл бұрын

    Great video, you've covered its benefits, as well as its drawbacks very well. I've been using KDE since May 2018, and other than trying a couple other DEs for a short while, in the long term I've stuck to it. I've tried customizing it in many different ways, and over I've perfected the configuration for my needs on each device I have it on (basically every device that's capable of running it).

  • @MnemonicCarrier
    @MnemonicCarrier3 жыл бұрын

    KDE Plasma - keeping the desktop sane :)

  • @animegamer3336
    @animegamer33363 жыл бұрын

    Honestly the first time i looked at KDE Plasma's settings panel i said WTF and after 5 minutes i realised it has tooo much power inside it i was overwhelmed in a good way :))

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah once you go past that first impression, it’s really amazing!

  • @prgnify
    @prgnify3 жыл бұрын

    07:00 Is a perfect point - it's easier to let advanced users add things than overwhelm the casuals and have THEM remove the stuff they don't use. You put it perfectly and I hope plasma devs take it to heart. Gosh I feel like I'm repeating myself too much but I can't keep gushing about how well you communicated such an important criticism. Great work Nick.

  • @n1ghtglare

    @n1ghtglare

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheer up then! They're aware of this and have been putting a lot of effort into it recently, especially as part of Breeze Evolution and their common goal of consistency.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much :)

  • @k4everut

    @k4everut

    3 жыл бұрын

    I disagree, to an extent. I think it's easier to have all the features built-in, but have features that are not commonly used turned off by default. Then, let advanced users or novice user who need a certain feature, turn on the features they need. We certainly don't want to turn KDE Plasma into GNOME where users are forced to add buggy and unsupported plugins to an application (or the desktop) just to make it useful. That stuff should be built-in.

  • @kartikeykushwaha3622

    @kartikeykushwaha3622

    3 жыл бұрын

    Easier said that done. It's probably not even possible.

  • @dumbllama8495
    @dumbllama84953 жыл бұрын

    can't remember his name, but a few days ago, a KDE developer was reviewing gnome 40 and he said that it's important for KDE developers to make gtk based apps work alright in plasma.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they did well!

  • @openm1ndead

    @openm1ndead

    3 жыл бұрын

    For now libadwaita gtk4 apps may have blurry fonts when being run under Plasma. Also not themeable.

  • @blackchristiangeek
    @blackchristiangeek3 жыл бұрын

    Great insights in your review and I to have officially moved from Gnome to KDE Plasma as my daily driver because of the theming and customizations. Thanks for your thoughtful feedback.

  • @dezmondwhitney1208
    @dezmondwhitney12083 жыл бұрын

    As usual, an upload with a genuine review of KDE with great points made. Many Thanks.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @andysam1192
    @andysam11922 жыл бұрын

    one of best linux review i seeing...i have using kde for years and continue to using it as daily driver.

  • @AaronCunnington
    @AaronCunnington3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I struggle with KDE due to its inconsistency and messy interfaces. I will keep trying it every year or so to see what’s happening though!

  • @nsa3967
    @nsa39673 жыл бұрын

    I love KDE! And great videos as always!

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @jd31068
    @jd310683 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 100k subscribers!!

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @andmoreduro
    @andmoreduro3 жыл бұрын

    I recommend to you the materia theme for both kde apps and gnome apps, also the kvantum-theme-materia (and kvantum) is needed for the buttons, the papirus icon theme is a nice pair with the materia theme.

  • @Naeidea
    @Naeidea3 жыл бұрын

    Been using it as my laptop's daily driver for a while now and love KDE. Love using KDE Connect as well it just works great.

  • @dummyxl
    @dummyxl3 жыл бұрын

    I really really like the lamp and dodge animation in kde. I share your criticism

  • @zeniktorres4320
    @zeniktorres43202 жыл бұрын

    Changed over from years of Ubuntu to Kubuntu 21.04. KDE is just so much better. I have it mostly stock but with tweaks here and there some installs for a few features that integrates well KDE. It looks smart, it's well presented. There are many improvements waiting to be made of course.

  • @KdeOrg
    @KdeOrg3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this great review!

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome :)

  • @celestialadministration
    @celestialadministration3 жыл бұрын

    I like your setup, I've been experimenting with twm.

  • @bobwong8268
    @bobwong82683 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Perhaps it's time for me to take a re-look into KDE. Many many many Moons ago, I will only run KDE b/c it was more customisable until it crashes my production system a little too often. I had no choice but to use something lighter. I finally settled on xfce. Thanks again, you reminded me about my 1st love desktop of choice. Time to rekindle tt warm tingerling sensation.

  • @DWatso
    @DWatso2 жыл бұрын

    I'd been using Debian 11 with Gnome for the last few months, but about three weeks ago did a reinstall on a machine and decided to try KDE with Deb 11. Its a keeper! Its nicely traditional but nicely modern, fast, seems quite lightweight and hasn't impacted Deb's legendary stability.

  • @watsoft70
    @watsoft702 жыл бұрын

    I'm totally with you on the "it's easier to add than take away". That is my major gripe with Windows and many Linux distros with regards to the bundled apps (not so much layout within, but I see your point). I used to be a fan of KDE when it was one of Linux Mint's offerings, but after they dropped it I tried many other KDE options. Being less than happy with them (Manjaro amongst them) I decided to try other front-ends and finally settled on Linux Mint's xfce offering. I did not select this because of it being lightweight, but because it feels like a consistent experience backed by the robustness the Mint team are legendary for. I do wish that the file manager was more Dolphin like and I would even consider installing the KDE stalwart, but I've read that it's flaky on anything other than KDE (because of its integration) and that's not what you want to experience from a cornerstone of the operating system.

  • @maksympletiuk5311
    @maksympletiuk53113 жыл бұрын

    As always, great video. I like KDE Plasma and use it. I agree with each of your statements. It has some problems, but KDE is really growing fast. I just want to give credit to the developers. Keep going!

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they’re doing a great job!

  • @BoDiddly
    @BoDiddly3 жыл бұрын

    I love KDE and Plasma! I run Kubuntu with Ubuntu Studio installed and it is fantastic and has most of what I need as is. I am not a big fan of Arch and it's derivatives. I prefer a Distro that makes things easy for me, but also gives me the Option to dig into the details if I want... but mostly, I just want things to work smoothly and efficiently with few hiccups. KDE and Plasma make this a dream!

  • @smishyt
    @smishyt3 жыл бұрын

    In addition to the immense amount of customization, KDE is incredibly fast, powerful and smooth which is something extraordinary. Other desktop environments that don't even offer half the power that Plasma does, but yet they're choppy and somehow heavier on system resources. This ambitious project never fails to pleasantly surprise me.

  • @sainathsingineedi2922

    @sainathsingineedi2922

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's definitely not fast atleast not on my laptop. It crashes multiple times. Very long boot times. But love it's customizability.

  • @GamerBoy705_yt

    @GamerBoy705_yt

    2 жыл бұрын

    It definitely takes some time to boot but it is pretty snappy

  • @munadilshafat
    @munadilshafat3 жыл бұрын

    A happy user of KDE. I don't know how they manage to read my mind and deliver exactly what I was looking for....

  • @MyReviews_karkan
    @MyReviews_karkan3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the light, brother. lol To me, KDE is, hands down, the best DE out there. KDE connect is even better than apple's airdrop or whatever they call it.

  • @arizapathan613

    @arizapathan613

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use iphone, they still dont have support for that

  • @MyReviews_karkan

    @MyReviews_karkan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arizapathan613 And I don't think they'll ever be able to. Apple's ecosystem is locked down very tightly to work only with other Apple's products. Have you tried installing Linux on a newer MacBook? 2016 and newer are a nightmare. My fault, I should've specified that kde connect works well for Android.

  • @mrcvry

    @mrcvry

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MyReviews_karkan It has nothing to do with „locked down“ if just nobody was interested yet to write an app for it. Just a case of supply and demand.

  • @arunparolikkal4674

    @arunparolikkal4674

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrcvry There's just little incentive to. Given it isn't possible to implement the whole feature set KDEConnect offers on an iOS device.

  • @mrcvry

    @mrcvry

    3 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps Nextcloud could be an alternative. I am not using the KDE (yet) and have not seen connect.

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_3 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone who isn't shy about customizing the desktop :D This and the amount of functionality in bundled apps is where KDE really shines.

  • @errorsofmodernism7331
    @errorsofmodernism73312 жыл бұрын

    Great analysis, my experience with KDE matches yours. Great configurability but the heavy workload with the constant tweaking and trying to find an obscure setting is exasperating

  • @TheSianhulo
    @TheSianhulo3 жыл бұрын

    Good video, some of kde's program really do need to simplify their default interface a little so they aren't so daunting to new users. My biggest issue with gtk programs, particularly the ones that use CSD, is integration. Programs with CSD don't (or at least normally don't) export a menubar through dbus, which means a globalmenu setup won't work with said programs, and something like plasma-hud, which lets you search for any item in the menu bar, won't work either. I also used a script to generate a per-program title bar color, and my top panel changes to match the title bar color of the active window, but because CSD programs draw their own decoration the color scheme doesn't get applied to them. This makes CSD programs look like the odd duck in my setup.

  • @HikingFeral
    @HikingFeral Жыл бұрын

    I have installed KDE plasma full desktop environment alongside UBUNTU and I love it so much! it looks amazing and the customization options are nothing short of outstanding, i will still check back in with UBUNTU and the Windows 11 I am dual booting with but this is defo my new goto IDE

  • @pascalvorbach6829
    @pascalvorbach68293 жыл бұрын

    That was a great video about your experience Nick 👌🏻. I "life" in gnome since about 2 months again, i still have no complains, well I use pop OS, that's a bit different than the vanilla gnome on debian or something comparable i suppose 😅👌🏻

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will do others with GNOME and other DEs as well :)

  • @pinheirokde
    @pinheirokde3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the review, I must say I agree with you on most accounts... At least on the style front I hope you will have even more options soon :) Yeah options is something we love to offer in KDE. And yeah some apps seem a bit old.. and some overly complex in default land.. we could/should improve that...

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nuno! Yeah I’m expecting the new oxygen with very little patience hahaha How has it been going?

  • @pinheirokde

    @pinheirokde

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLinuxEXP style is done design wise but struggling way to much about the icon style. The plasma/Qt style begs for simplicity as far as icons go and that is easy, but then apps devices folders places etc I can't stand the overly simplistic bland thing... So I'm stuck there... Need to star working on code implementation, I have a working prototype in qml but needs to be made into a real theme...

  • @felipekinoshita
    @felipekinoshita3 жыл бұрын

    KDE Plasma is really great! The changes to the Breeze Theme are coming, slow and steady, all changes should land on Plasma 5.23! The apps problem is true but I'm seeing more and more Qt apps being created, like Haruna and some smaller projects, Plasma (and KDE as a whole) is getting way more attention recently, that could change the amount of apps made for it as well, but on the bright side cross-platform apps generally look more consistent on Plasma, and even some GTK apps look better on Plasma! One thing i think is great on KDE as well is that it feels way more welcoming to contributions and ideas! Great video as always, Nick! :)

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @luisalvarez6196
    @luisalvarez61963 жыл бұрын

    I was a Gnome user until Chris Fisher (yes, of Jupiter Broadcasting fame) showed me the power of KDE... In a chat during a livestream (how I miss attending Linux shows!), but nontheless...

  • @BaldeepSingh24
    @BaldeepSingh243 жыл бұрын

    KDE feels like home everytime you take the time to make it your home... While Gnome is getting a pre furnished apartment which you can't change much! I just love KDE for that and there are talks going on regarding the feature where you can even export all your settings in afile and import them in another KDE env with simple steps... Imagine seeing something like that linuxscoop video and just importing it to use it in a single click.. just amazing!

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good comparison!

  • @sandeepvk
    @sandeepvk2 жыл бұрын

    Only a frenchman can make such a comprehensive video - facts facts facts.

  • @ClifffSVK
    @ClifffSVK3 жыл бұрын

    Also, for more UI consistency, install the "gtk3-nocsd" package. It splits the new GTK headerbar into the traditional titlebar + toolbar layout.

  • @ryukusu_luminarius

    @ryukusu_luminarius

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much! It doesn't work with new Gnome apps but at least it works with some other non-Gnome Apps. That is great!

  • @enermaxstephens1051
    @enermaxstephens10513 жыл бұрын

    Well I've been using it for a year and it's awesome. Easily the best DE in all of linux land. People think xfce is light, when it's not light at all. KDE is so well optimized that it actually is light, using only as much ram as XFCE does.

  • @yoman9446
    @yoman94463 жыл бұрын

    Ah! He finally did it! Do try more customization, I've made mine look like MacOS haha

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine kinda looks like it as well :)

  • @bintangazhar7798

    @bintangazhar7798

    3 жыл бұрын

    I combine ubuntu gnome, macOS, and windows look into my KDE setup, and I love it.

  • @StaceyAyodele
    @StaceyAyodele2 жыл бұрын

    I always end up installing KDE on my Linux Mint install. I LOOOOVE KDE so much. It's so customizable and fun to use.

  • @Marcos_Guitar
    @Marcos_Guitar3 жыл бұрын

    Not also powerful and with lots of customization, but still can be lightweight. I love that!

  • @ioanpirjolea6283
    @ioanpirjolea62833 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, I am using Redcore Linux KDE Plasma from release...

  • @reveninja5252
    @reveninja52522 жыл бұрын

    Plasma has also amazing resource management. On some systems I had it consume around 400-500mb of ram. which is dangerously close to what xfce uses (of course everything vary from distro to distro) I ran it on 32bit old netbook, and it was almost always snappy. I almost consider it a ligthweight de. The lightest experience with Plasma I had on Q4OS and Debian(although I havent tried anything arch-based). Now I use KDE Neon as it cutting edge of KDE and has integrated snaps and flatpaks out of the box and all in one place in Discover software center. Super convenient.

  • @BorislavMitsov
    @BorislavMitsov3 жыл бұрын

    I've been using KDE Neon on my workstation and personal machine since years and I would say it's features and capabilities are made and great for increasing productivity, like you showed on your video. ✌🏻

  • @amaralbc

    @amaralbc

    3 жыл бұрын

    How do you evaluate Discover for getting apps and system updates? I moved away from Neon/Kubuntu because of many many issues with it not being able to install updates.

  • @BorislavMitsov

    @BorislavMitsov

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amaralbc I didn't have any issues, except for updating icons, but I do it from settings - install new icons - find installed icons package and press update. That's for updates. For finding and installing apps I usually use terminal because in my case Doscover offers me with higher priority flatpack or snap packages and it is hard for me to find native Linux apps, which I prefer. It is not the best software center, but that's not an issue for me.

  • @dedoyxp
    @dedoyxp3 жыл бұрын

    I really agree about finding setting, its just a hassle for a system that relies so much on customization

  • @temari2860
    @temari28603 жыл бұрын

    I think KDE is really good. It's customizable, effective, smooth and have very good performance. But GNOME looks so simple and nice that i preffer it even tho i think KDE is objectively better in everything else.

  • @RedSaint83
    @RedSaint833 жыл бұрын

    As someone who tested out Linux 15-20 years ago and know how much love Gnome got over KDE, and favoring KDE personally, it's really nice to hear how far KDE has come. Maybe It's time to go back to Linux and leave Windows behind.

  • @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    @lawrencedoliveiro9104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to an OS that can only handle 26 drive letters?

  • @3nails3days1way
    @3nails3days1way2 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I too love KDE Plasma, I love to tweak and customize. However, Feren OS [also KDE Plasma] works way better than Manjero. Tried Manjero twice and deleted it twice. Feren is much better. It doesn't have Dolphin, but easily changed! Much quicker.

  • @Ratich
    @Ratich3 жыл бұрын

    Haha Legend's beard is fabulous as always

  • @duser
    @duser3 жыл бұрын

    I tired to switch over to PopOS from windows and Gnome felt weird. The feel of gnome was good, but it lacked some polish and the way it was intended to be used clashed with my windows muscle memory. This kept me from fully transitioning to linux for a long time. After installing KDE along side PopOS's Gnome, i was suprized. KDE felt a lot like windows, but i could do so much with the interface. KDE allowed me to fully transition to Linux and i feel so much at home here. The power behind KDE is its customization. you can emulate pretty much any desktop environment out there using KDE apps. There may be limitations to how configurable it is, but i have not yet found a limit myself. The granular control it gives feels very liberating after years on windows.

  • @darXcore
    @darXcore3 жыл бұрын

    Very good review, bummer you didn't try out (or mention) KRunner, I personally couldn't live without it anymore.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t need it at all during the month I spent with KDE, the menu filled up every need I had to search, calculate, or open things :)

  • @ianwar85
    @ianwar853 жыл бұрын

    I've been using KDE for fiew years and every year it keeps getting better FYI KDE have full integration GDK (Gnome) apps built-in so it's like KDE-GNOME power joined together in my hand

  • @DirkDierickx
    @DirkDierickx3 жыл бұрын

    The gigantic amount of settings/configurable options was the thing that always put me of KDE. Trying to find the thing you need, for people new to the platform, is just like looking for a needle in a haystack.

  • @Aepigon

    @Aepigon

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is something you can learn in a day or two ... An afterwards you will be amazed what you actually can do with your desktop and os in general. The stupid simplicity has been something that has always been turning me away from gnome desktop. And it is getting worse with every release.

  • @DirkDierickx

    @DirkDierickx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not using gnome either, because that is the extreme opposite of what KDE is, which also isn't good! XFCE for me...

  • @Blueeeeeee
    @Blueeeeeee3 жыл бұрын

    Posted 32 seconds ago ! I think Cinnamon or XFCE would be worth a shot, too. They sure aren't as customizable as Plasma, but I think they really have the right amount of options to play with, and they offer very sane defaults out of the box, especially for old Windows users.

  • @myslav1805
    @myslav18053 жыл бұрын

    One of the things I miss about Plasma is a native blur transparent theme. Sure, the default ones do have some transparency with blur but it's nowhere near a custom theme. But then those have poor contrast with letters in some situations.

  • @jarod3371
    @jarod33713 жыл бұрын

    Simplicity of Gnome 40 is where its at...

  • @SChristianCollins
    @SChristianCollins3 жыл бұрын

    You can hide the gray background on your desktop monitoring widgets to make them look extra slick.

  • @sebastianblei1604
    @sebastianblei16043 жыл бұрын

    Hi Nick, thanks for your videos they are just great. To search files in elementory the app fsearch is fantastic. kde is a fantastic desktop but I never got it as clear as Pantheon.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank a lot :) yeah Pantheon is just amazing!

  • @CesarPeron
    @CesarPeron3 жыл бұрын

    Everything mentioned above all customization is what seduces me the most about (K)DE and that is why I use it almost always, when I step on another DE I feel that my hands have been cut off from all sides in terms of personalization / productivity, while what I hate the most is that its windows environment is not as solid as Gnome. Plasma usually has some annoying bugs at the interface level and the worst thing is that many (popular) apps open and save their files with the Gnome Files explorer, instead from Dolphin and also sometimes the windows are not fully integrated, like Timeshift that does not respect the dark mode ...

  • @jrdavis1992
    @jrdavis19922 жыл бұрын

    I have started to use KDE on my Raspberry Pi 4 B with Raspbian Lite, and it actually works under the 32-bit mode. Just make sure to turn the desktop effects off, and you'll be fine. I've also reset my Debian 11 installation with KDE as well.

  • @mizhimo
    @mizhimo3 жыл бұрын

    For me, a really nice feature is the Dolphin capability of thumbnailing and previewing raw images. Makes my workflow so much easy. Also, something I usually dont like about DEs is how they manage keybindings. However, Plasma at least allows to import all the keybindings with a simple file, so in that regard is more similar to WMs. The thing that is really annoying me with Plasma is Kwin. It randomly crashes or misbehaves sometimes. I think Kwin is the finickiest part of the whole KDE Plasma environmet.

  • @MirceaKitsune
    @MirceaKitsune3 жыл бұрын

    I hope KDE devs can see this video and the critiques; Those negatives never bothered me but now that you mention them, I can definitely see and agree with them. That being said, I use KDE for a decade and it's what allowed me to switch from Windows to Linux, I couldn't imagine myself using any other DE.

  • @putugedesemaraputra5919
    @putugedesemaraputra59193 жыл бұрын

    Maybe i think that the disadvantage on plasma is the lacking of gesture support by default, although you could install fusuma in it. Its just wont be like what gnome 40 gesture did. Overall i love what kde did over this year: D Thanks for the review :D

  • @wrenchdisroot2451
    @wrenchdisroot24513 жыл бұрын

    Hey Nick, about the todo-list and task management application, actually there is one specifically made by the kde team and which is part of the Kontact suite : Zanshin (and d'you see that? No K in the name :P) It's complete, featurefull, and is perfect for syncing your nextcloud tasks with your desktop.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ll take a look, thanks a lot :)

  • @tassaron
    @tassaron3 жыл бұрын

    I set up my Plasma with two panels on the top and left, sort of like Unity was. The layout seems to scare people away from using my laptop when I offer it to them, so last week I made a second user on my laptop with a MacOS style (WhiteSur/Latte/Kpple). Took a few clicks and 15 minutes, and the theming is completely separate from my usual user. The ease of customization in KDE Plasma is seriously impressive!

  • @psifidotos4798

    @psifidotos4798

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or you can use Latte in multiple layouts mode and you can have different panel, docks layouts in different Activities so you dont need different users at all.

  • @TristanGrimaux
    @TristanGrimaux3 жыл бұрын

    Dolphin has incredible things, like kservices that let you extend the creation of previews (i've programmed mine to show STL and SKP previews) or the ability to change the icons of the folders to show a poster of the movie inside. I even added a special action to paste the content of the clipboard as a file ─which Dolphin already has─, so the images copied from the web have their name, comment and source added as an EXIF information.

  • @jeremyst37
    @jeremyst373 жыл бұрын

    Hi thank u for this video. I have question though, it's been bugging me and can't find any solution in google search. Once i customized kde, whenever i reboot, the panel settings are not saved, big panel icons and the calendar has large font size, and the application launcher too is not saved. I installed the PlasmaConfigSaver but still the same upon login. However when i logout the computer, the settings i made are back. Do you know the fix for this? Thank u in advance.

  • @AlaKernel
    @AlaKernel3 жыл бұрын

    great video ... really enjoy it ... too much blinking hhhh 😅 .

  • @galtthedestroyer
    @galtthedestroyer3 жыл бұрын

    for sysadmins, or developers who use vagrant, you can edit KDE settings including cosmetics from the command line. It's not the easiest thing to use, especially because they sometimes change how things work, but it gets the job done.

  • @YannMetalhead
    @YannMetalhead2 жыл бұрын

    Good video.

  • @andromydous
    @andromydous2 жыл бұрын

    KDE has come a long way since I originally used it. When I first encounter Linux, it was around the time of Ubuntu 7 or 8. KDE back then looked cartoonish, but had some interesting desktop animations. Now, it looks more professional and polished.

  • @maasteeve
    @maasteeve3 жыл бұрын

    Besides an odd kwin bug I sometimes have(restarting kwin fixes it) kde is almost perfect. I also just love some of the applications specifically okular and dolphin.

  • @alvesvaren
    @alvesvaren3 жыл бұрын

    you didn’t even show krunner, IT IS AMAZING! Alt+Space: type something like ”10 usd” > converts to other currencies “!g the linux experiment” > google search for the linux experiment in your default browser “firefox” > start firefox “xkill” > run xkill from the command line “window rules” > open the window rules settings page “34+13-(4^2)” > 31 “my-file.txt” > open that file in a text editor

  • @afborro
    @afborro3 жыл бұрын

    i didn't think you stick with it to be honest, but more power to KDE that you did :) It will be interesting to see when you go back to elementary 6 if you will go back to KDE full time. Can't wait for that video, I'll have the popcorn ready but how long ... At this rate elementary seems to have stalled badly. If they stick with the current base version (ubuntu) even that will be old if it is not out soon. I would hope for an elementary user it better had a lot of improvements/additions to offer given the aeons it has taken.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    They haven’t stalled, they’ll just release when it’s ready :)

  • @blackstar_1069
    @blackstar_10693 жыл бұрын

    2:26 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @azatecas
    @azatecas3 жыл бұрын

    I have switched from windows to linux to macos over the last 2 years, mostly because i wanted to be well oriented across all OS and i can honestly say it doesnt matter what you use youll always adapt to it. Same logic for desktop environments

  • @davidwayne9982
    @davidwayne99822 жыл бұрын

    AMEN on that being easier to ADD apps rather than try to REMOVE ones you don't need-- (and screw up dependencies, etc.)... I usually download the MININAL versions just for this purpose- on those distros that offer that.. because I CAN just ADD what I want.. works MUCH better..

  • @Cerbereus
    @Cerbereus3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your sharing of Plasma desktop is a great desktop with their pro and con, I really like it, the only downside to me is as you said some programs must be less option basic option and then let you show those options if you need it, also something I did never like it, what is the deal to put K to all the program, thanks Dolphin show the right way.

  • @RobBCactive
    @RobBCactive3 жыл бұрын

    KDE has always been super customisable, some people even complain about the overwhelming options presented when you pick options. Myself I look learned to live with most defaults on every system, because very often I have to find my way around other people's boxes, so relying on customisation is something I gave up after going from Apollo's Domain to Sun's BSD4 based SunOS. Actually KDE theme ought decide the look of apps, that's the whole point of an integrated desktop. Saying Kmail doesn't fit might be due to past over customisation, like many I stopped using mail readers after switching to Gmail. KDE has always been surprisingly efficient, so long as the box has enough memory. I ran plasma on the then KDE4 on a dual CeleronA 300Mhz box, finding it acceptable, while Firefox would crawl. At the time, KDE file manager handled HTML pages as well as ftp and many of us were upset when it was dropped in favour of Dolphin, which was clunky typical fm, rather than the efficient deceptively powerful but unique KDE one. An example of better being worse because it didn't fit casual users expectations.

  • @kortaffel
    @kortaffel3 жыл бұрын

    8:58 I use my super key to switch between desktops. Super+1 switches to desktop 1, super + 2 to Desktop 2 and so on. And then I put super+shift+#number to move the active window to the #desktop. Try it out, my workflow improved alot

  • @bennypr0fane
    @bennypr0fane3 жыл бұрын

    One thing you notably cannot customize in Plasma is you can't freely arrange the icons, like e.g. in clusters. They always "snap to grid" (options are to arrange them in lines or columns). In the issue that was filed about it on KDE, it is said such a feature whould require a complete rewrite of some big component :-( I miss that feature

  • @IGqy
    @IGqy3 жыл бұрын

    I had to set up one of my old laptops for someone who didn't have a computer and were used to run Windows. I chose KDE Plasma for that, since I knew I could make it look like windows and I could, but I felt like the options were a little much for someone who wasn't used to plasma, så i hid most of it away for the new user. My own brief experience was, that the setting weren't as intuitive as they are in other systems. I like that it's there, but I found that it was not the easiest to navigate and to set up. Edit spelling

  • @tibssy1982
    @tibssy19823 жыл бұрын

    I used to use KDE many years ago. My only problem is the windows like behavior, I mean the OK, cancel, and apply buttons are exist. Is it possible to turn it on gnome like behavior?

  • @Ratich
    @Ratich3 жыл бұрын

    LegendofTotalWar here and today we've got a rating your desktop video.

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahahah

  • @technogeekshoaib
    @technogeekshoaib3 жыл бұрын

    Please make a video on MX Linux KDE... I would love to hear about your perspective on it

  • @victorjohnson7512
    @victorjohnson75123 жыл бұрын

    When using KDE, do you lubricate before insertion?

  • @little_forest
    @little_forest3 жыл бұрын

    I might even question, whether one can actually speak of a "default" Plasma layout, since the customizability is so hard wired into the DE, that it is almost expected one configures it in a way the user needs it to be. So you might say, what makes KDE Plasma unique is that it does not have a default layout :) And what I was also wondering about recently, whether Plasma might be (in theory ;) ) an interesting choice for a company. Cause in the end, each employee has a specific job that needs a specific layout for the best workflow. And that is what you can easily do with KDE. And at the same time, if for example someone has trouble setting up their printer, it is still the same settings and thus the same solution to the problem, no matter what layout it is. So definitely Plasma is not perfect, but it is so versatile!

  • @anon5258
    @anon52583 жыл бұрын

    my experience with kde was pretty damn amazing light weight, smooth, extremely flexible but uninstalling it gave me ptsd still have some leftovers that kde installed

  • @briansrcadventures1316
    @briansrcadventures13163 жыл бұрын

    I must admit I'm swithering between Cinnamon on Mint, and KDE on Kubuntu. Sometimes I find the lack of customisability on Cinnamon, a little frustrating, other times I find KDE a bit too overwhelming! However I've found recent versions of Cinnamon (on Mint 20), somewhat sluggish compared to earlier versions on Mint 19.

  • @byteheadx
    @byteheadx3 жыл бұрын

    krunner is one of the best features in KDE plasma and it can improve your workflow in many ways

  • @n1ghtglare
    @n1ghtglare3 жыл бұрын

    I agree with your thoughts about KDE apps. Dolphin and Kate are what every KDE app should be but most other apps are over-complicated and over-all just not worth using. Things are changing though, there are a lot of pleasant Kirigami-based applications coming now like NeoChat, KClock, etc. Then there's the Maui apps like Index, Buho, vvave, etc. KDE is getting better everyday and I love it. The theme being too bland will hopefully soon be solved once Breeze Evolution is complete. Btw, I work on and/or contribute to 3rd party GNOME apps like Dialect, Wordbook, Komikku, etc but I use Plasma while making them. I think it's easy to feel comfortable using GNOME apps in Plasma but not the other way around. So I'd rather build for a Linux-only platform (GNOME) than a cross-platform one (KDE). But even in my Plasma setup, I use Foliate, NewsFlash, Komikku, Authenticator, etc (all GNOME apps) and it all works fine, so why not?

  • @TheLinuxEXP

    @TheLinuxEXP

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can’t wait for more « modern looking » apps to be available, or even made default :)

  • @guicasazanin
    @guicasazanin2 жыл бұрын

    I like Manjaro with KDE, it's a beautiful system, I also think KDE has a lot of options, but a lot of them get confusing in the context they're in. Really the search for them could be better

  • @JacobP81
    @JacobP813 жыл бұрын

    4:27 How did you get the "Safely remove" text, mine just has the icon?

  • @nash475
    @nash4753 жыл бұрын

    Hey Nick, how KDE deals with multitouch gestures? Did you tried to use it? Nice video, btw.

  • @openm1ndead

    @openm1ndead

    3 жыл бұрын

    libinput-gestures

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