It's already a miracle that Asahi works this well on Apple Silicon

@MatthewWilliamsX

11 ай бұрын

Bloody oath!

@chloe-sunshine7

11 ай бұрын

No miracle. Just hard work from all the legendary Linux developers.

@jimcabezola3051

11 ай бұрын

I seem to be the only person I know who PREFERS to use his Asahi Linux on his M1 Mac instead of the native macOS. Even though I can only get sound over Bluetooth, I like Asahi, and it works. SAMTIME has got to be much more clever and computer literate than I. I suppose he's just trying to get laughs...

@damnhatesyou

11 ай бұрын

Why? Apple silicon is no different from any other new platform Linux have to work with

@voidmain7902

11 ай бұрын

​@@damnhatesyou No programmer's manual, no vendor kernel that are forced to open source because GPL? I won't really call it a miracle but it's significantly more work than getting say an Allwinner SoC to work for sure.

I love Arch Linux, I use it as my daily driver, but I would never suggest it to anyone other than someone who is already familiar with linux and looking to learn a lot and wants to tinker.

@flarebear5346

11 ай бұрын

100% true. It's just going to frustrate them

@Salvaju29ro95

11 ай бұрын

I agree though in many things, once you learn Arch it becomes easier than the pre set distros

@gorrumKnight

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I run Arch-based as my daily driver (CachyOS w/ hyprland) and on my work system. I usually get newbies starting on something Debian based, sometimes OpenSUSE depending on the person.

@yaroslav7328

11 ай бұрын

​@@gorrumKnightAgree with you. Usually, I recommend Ubuntu/Mint or Fedora/OpenSUSE.

@mathman0569

11 ай бұрын

@@gorrumKnight Yeah, I'd generally recomend KDE neon, I've never had any problems arrise from it and it really feels like it's trying to keep you from needing the command line

He couldn't have failed more spectacularly if he tried. In fact, I think he planned this all along. 🤣

@markusTegelane

11 ай бұрын

I think that's one problem with the video - it's hard to tell if it's a joke or not

@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019

10 ай бұрын

Obviously.

@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019

10 ай бұрын

@@markusTegelane He's a comedian. Take a guess.

@rizkyadiyanto7922

10 ай бұрын

​@@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019zelensky is a comedian as well... its hard to know what comedian do these days.

@MagikGimp

10 ай бұрын

That's just it. He DIDN'T. He knows nothing about Linux and yet this is where searching for what to do took him. Right there is the problem.

You are correct, the audio issues are not KDEs fault, Asahi linux is WIP and it says on their wiki that speakers are intentionally disabled as there is plausible risk damaging them when used with current drivers. ( ah, wrote this before the comment section of the video, sorry :P) Microphone is not implemented yet. On using ubuntu, he can't do that on m1. Only asahi or fedora asahi spin work on that machine natively, however that does not excuse the fact that the video did portray a WIP distribution as the standard of linux as a whole.

@elcugo

11 ай бұрын

Ubuntu would have worked easily in the VM software he wanted to use at the begining (parallels).

Mac user installs Arch Linux with no understanding of Linux and then blames Linux for problems. Sounds about right for the Mac users I know.

@HectorLugo

11 ай бұрын

His channel is parody.

@roxsonixx

11 ай бұрын

@danielhalachev4714 Exactly. Linux isn't perfect but when you go into it blindly like this and then blame it for failing it seems to be an intentional jab from someone who just wants to make their preferred platform look better. "Oh all you silly Linux users out there, this is why Mac is sooooo superior. It just works." I've seen this scenario from iPhone people using an android for the first time and not bothering to take any time to learn how it works.

@eiboeck88

11 ай бұрын

​@@roxsonixx it's kinda frustrating because now a lot of people are gonna see that video and just go linux bad he could have chosen anything else even an arch based distro and most things would have worked that said i have no idea if there even exists another distro for apple silicone

@dominik2327

11 ай бұрын

​@@eiboeck88 There is Fedora Asahi Remix.

@MatthewWilliamsX

11 ай бұрын

​@danielhalachev4714Sam's channel is brilliant. As a Linux fan boy for well over a decade - this is a all humour - possibly satire. His work is never to be taken seriously.

"Asahi Linux, which is basically just Arch Linux but made a little simpler" yeah, he's already dead

@herkatron

3 ай бұрын

😂

>first time user >experimental hardware >advanced, minimalistic, rolling release DIY distro i mean, this just had to go wrong, i'm surprised he even got it installed

@swagmuffin9000

10 ай бұрын

The script? Maybe the calamaris installer? I guess we'll never know. I wish we had a video of the install, that would be interesting

@DMSBrian24

10 ай бұрын

@@swagmuffin9000 yeah i looked it up apparently asahi comes with calamaris so that'd explain that part

@marschallblucher6197

Ай бұрын

It was a train set to go off a cliff. I'm surprised it didn't go even more wrong.

The expose thing he mentioned for gestures is a mac feature that brings up a separate layer of widgets. So he’s trying to do apple things in Linux (while wearing a NASA shirt).

12:15 the mythical "one-click fix button" every GUI users need

@labonnelambda58

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, the one you will never see because if the OS can fix it by a simple clic he would just fix it himself when the issue appear.

@markusTegelane

5 ай бұрын

Windows troubleshooters try to do that and let's just say they don't really work 99.99% of the time lol

First mistake is running Linux on a Mac considering all the hurdles they have currently on the arm CPUs just to get it running, but I mean it's a usecase I guess xD

@IanBetteridge

11 ай бұрын

I mean if you wanted to run Linux on a Mac get an older one... or just wait till Ashai/Fedora is in a better place.

@anon_y_mousse

11 ай бұрын

Of course a lot of that is the hardware being intentionally designed to prevent you from doing what you want with it. After all, Linux has been on ARM processors for decades and working perfectly on a vast number thanks to the Raspberry Pi Foundation. This is why I'll never buy a Mac.

@onejdc

11 ай бұрын

Arch on my 2011 Macbook Air runs like a dream. Granted, I'm running x-org/awesomewm so .... I'm not the typical mac user :P

@swagmuffin9000

10 ай бұрын

If anything, run Linux as soon as apple stops giving updates your system. My laptop was bricked, and now it's 100% usable again

I hope he watches this video 😂😅😁😬🫠

@cexeodus

5 ай бұрын

if he does i hope his response video starts with "EALLLOOO Im Sam Tuckah from the yt channel 'Nicco loves linux' and.."

this is even worse than when Linus tech tips used linux

@joemann7971

10 ай бұрын

The difference between him and Samtime is that Sam at least makes it funny and nobody will take him too serious. LTT is a more serious tech channel and he has a lot more followers. So, LTT is still worse IMO.

@PDD555

10 ай бұрын

​@@joemann7971I think the same

@memovilmx6239

7 ай бұрын

Probably Sam actually knows how to use linux (or any *nix btw) but exaggerates the flaws for comedic and educational purposes and Linus well is just Linus trying to pimp every cent of every view at any price

@TheDeathmail

3 ай бұрын

@@joemann7971 Here is the thing, Linus is actually more tech savy than the vast majority of people. So the fact that he and Luke had so many problems showed the issues of Linux adoption quite clearly... It was actually a fair review....

@TheDeathmail

3 ай бұрын

@@memovilmx6239 No, he honestly gave it a shot... He actually demonstrated quite well why Linux is so hard to adopt for many people.... There is a reason that Linux users are in general better with computers than people who use other OS.... Linux is a confusing mess when you are first getting into it.... But the people that stay do so because they actually have fun. But that's the issue... the people that stayed had so much fun that they don't fully remember all the hardships of the systems because we were actually enjoying it. Linus was trying to join the community as a reviewer and as an average user... He didn't go into it having fun..... So I actually respect that Linus gave his review and think the Linux community probably needs to see what mistakes he made and how we can help people avoid those mistakes....

The problem is not Arch itself, I use EndeavourOS as a daily driver, he just jumped in the worst way possible in Arch :'D

You should collab with him and walk him through a proper KDE experience.

@jesuschristislord6790

11 ай бұрын

@danielhalachev4714 It would be fun for me and possibly other people to watch. Its content, which makes it not a chore, waste of time and has benefit. Who knows, maybe someone learns something as well. Nicco obviously likes him and samtime is pretty funny. It would be a good video. The image linux has doesnt really matter. Its never going to be super mainstream and doesnt need to be. The 2% of people like myself that wants to use it will always find their way there, the others will use windows and mac.

@encapsulatio

11 ай бұрын

@danielhalachev4714 I'm interested. I want to use Fedora properly but I feel their documentation is soo crappy for ACTUAL beginners to Linux.

@ShadowOfTheSPQR

11 ай бұрын

The hardware he wants to use simply is not ready for it anyway.

@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019

10 ай бұрын

@danielhalachev4714 Samtime is definitely nerdy and interested in tech. But he is also a comedian and is coming to Linux from that angle. Hence probably also the weird choice of hardware. It's the same shtick as with "Top Gear". But noone would say that Clarkson and May are not "car guys"

@meckerhesseausfrankfurt4019

10 ай бұрын

@danielhalachev4714 Oh, FFS, he's a comedian. He's done other linux content ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/emSmmraHmq7YddI.html ), in which he pokes fun at linux stereotypes. Just like he portrays apple users as smug money slaves to their ecosytem overlord, who censors all kinds of criticism ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4NmxaOHkrG_iso.html ). Or how Windows always crashes and how Windows 11 is horrible (it really isn't worse than Apple's walled garden). It's a comedy bit. It's not meant to be accurate. That's why he intentionally chose the worst hardware / software combination out there, even though he is obviously aware of other linux flavors ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKyozbNvebLZg6g.html ). And regarding the "actual problems with Linux": I agree with you that his comedy targets actual problems with other companies, e.g. Apple's horrendous environmental record ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4Ot182KcqqtadI.html ). But that is our OPINION. An Apple slave would say: I don't care! It's not a problem for me. I have the money. I just don't have the time to get informed and choose the right linux distro. For me it's just a humorous shtick trying to make an unfinished distro run on sub-optimal hardware. And I would love to see a Nicco / Sam collab. I wouldn't be very insightful for linux nerds. But it would be funny.

"im gonna try linux" installs beta quality distro

@Lu-Die-MilchQ

11 ай бұрын

More like Alpha, as its also mentioned on their website

At least he didn't roll with Gentoo for his first distro.

Lol, I love how Nicco's Italian really comes out when he starts doing his hand motions "it's YOOOU!" 🤣

@Bob-of-Zoid

11 ай бұрын

As long as he doesn't send a few goons to snuff out Sam it's all good!

@PrezVeto

10 ай бұрын

His accent has always sounded French to me.

3:00 my classmate heard that I use Linux, and she immediately asked if I use Kali Linux

TLDR he used mac with apple silicon that's shit and used distro for experienced users as a beginner

Expose is a Mac specific software feature. It has nothing to do with gestures except that it can be invoked that way. Not sure why anyone (technical or not) would expect that to work on Linux. You can very easily map a similar feature on KDE or Gnome to that gesture.

One thing KDE legitimately does badly is not having app names that make sense

@chrisxdeboy

11 ай бұрын

That's just the *nix community in general.

@chaoticpanda6272

11 ай бұрын

Come on bro dolphin name for file manager totally make sense.

@alexb8969

11 ай бұрын

Well good luck distinguish the various "file manager" or "video player" etc if they all have the same name !

@ShadowOfTheSPQR

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, this isn't a kde problem per Chris.

@swagmuffin9000

10 ай бұрын

Whenever opening my software menu, I'll have some apps in each letter, but when i get to "K", it's like 80% of everything on my computer. Not complaining, I just think it's funny

The irony is that Intel Macs actually works surprisingly well with both Linux and BSD these days. Now I want to see Samtime try out OpenBSD´s M1-version. For some strange reason I want to see Mr. Tucker get his head around FVWM.

@christianknuchel

8 ай бұрын

I used FVWM a long time ago. I liked how it's one of those pieces of software that actually do as configured.

Asking an Apple user to get out of his comfort zone is like a baby crying for his pacifier.

@diwaalejandrogalvez796

10 ай бұрын

You can ask a Linux user to get out of his comfort zone to try Mac OS and Windows You can ask an Android user to try iOS and, heck, even a Symbian or KaiOS phone You can ask a Windows user to give Linux or MacOS a whirl But an Apple user, whether MacOS or iOS user to try others? Yeah you'll have better luck at the Earth stopping from spinning.

@tmbrwn

9 ай бұрын

​@@diwaalejandrogalvez796 Honestly, I think y'all say things like this to feel better about yourselves. Personally, I've been running Linux (Arch, Gentoo, etc.) for two decades. During that time, I've known lots of Mac users who use Linux and Windows. Shit, most of the STEM students/professors I knew were dual booting MacOS and Windows, while shelling into headless Linux servers they built themselves.

SDDM always looks that way on a fresh installation on arch. You just have to go apply the theme once you login.

@albatross7

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 bla bla bla

@Osdamart

4 ай бұрын

​@@albatross7¿?

Love your sense of humor : ) Enjoyed this and the laughs. I am a daily Arch + KDE Plasma user so this was all quite funny !

It took me going through like 20 distros until I finally landed on arch and, yes, it's really hard to get going properly.

@happygofishing

11 ай бұрын

I don't really get why people say that arch is hard to get up and running. You can install the plasma group package and it basically setups the entire DE for you.

@STNKbone

11 ай бұрын

@@happygofishing agreed, Arch with KDE was my first distro and aside from a more involved install process (and there are ways to make this easier), It's really not that hard to use.

@Marcos_Tired

10 ай бұрын

But it's also a very rewarding learning experience, once you get it to work, there's no going back. And it's not even that hard, you don't have to anyting different from the wiki, so it's not really hard, it's just time consuming, I guess. I'm an Arch user for almost 10 years now

@KoopstaKlicca

8 ай бұрын

​@@happygofishingfacts. Initial installation is hard but kde makes it hella easy

So he uses a WIP Arch based distro that is also beyond his skill level, doesn't configure what he needs to correctly out of box, and has problems? Color me shocked I say, totally shocked. Jokes aside KDE works great OOB on Intel based Macs. I set one up per a customer request at work and they were blown away by how great it felt to use (I gave them Kubuntu because they're a Linux newbie).

Trying to put myself into Samtime's mindset, I could see him having some incentive to go with Arch over any easier options because it would make for a more entertaining video. It's a whole lot more fun when things go wrong than if everything went exactly as they were supposed to. Btw I'm using Manjaro/KDE.

I absolutely LOVE KDE Plasma! I had previously used XFCE, I tried KDE out just to see how it ran...and haven't looked back. Thanks for the work you all put into it!!!

I think one of the situations you can run into is that if you ask a random number of people which distro they use, often they'll not be using the more user friendly options, and perhaps they'll recommend the one they're using instead. Similarly, guides on how to do things are often written by experienced people, and the guides can similarly show how to do things in another distro and leave it to the user to figure out the differences. This is a situation that windows users and mac users don't have to face.

I'm actually surprised that Asahi is running that well on Apple silicon -- it's still really early for it, and you still are living on the cutting edge running it.

@albatross7

6 ай бұрын

If you call it “running well” you Linux people have a pretty low bar for what you consider acceptable.

@5fr4ewq

6 күн бұрын

​@@albatross7 "you linux people"? it was literally 1 comment. Can you kindly stop generalizing pretty big community?

Much love Nico!

love both your videos

Nicco are there any fixes with placement of windows, on 5.27 windows spawn pretty weirdly when using two monitors, and do not follow mouse

If I understand it right, with Arch Linux you only get Linux itself and a command line and package manager and that's it? Because I've heard it from many people that Arch Linux is like this minimal starting point from which you start to build your own actually usable system.

@5fr4ewq

6 күн бұрын

Kinda yeah, but 99.9999% of Arch users installs the same packages in order to get system running.

you actually make quite good videos. Keep it up! question: in the new suit of mail/kontact/kalendar is 365 going to be supported natively? Meaning MFA support and authentication, not just imap/pop3

I lulled all the way through this video. Thank you. 😂

is there a sound equalizer in kde? you seems to turn the volume up and down. with a sound equalizer it will be good

KDE taskbar clock - can it be done to increase the font size ? Like in the Puppy Linux ? Why some KDE distros completely removed Konqueror and others still include it ?

Nico do you know why packagekit does not manage flatpak and discover sucks so much at it (fails when updating especially when multiple installations are present)

This has the same energy as the woman watching every shape getting put in the square hole of the shape sorter

I'm on Fedora and it installed gnome by default. How do I switch to kde plasma?

I am a die-hard Fedora user and a Linux enthusiast with years of experience. I've never tried Arch (except Manjaro, but it's not the same). Why do some people attempt to drive a semi-truck after a Toyota Corolla and then wonder why it's much harder than they expected?

On knowing what I'm doing with Arch, I was able to recreate my boot partition using a live usb, so I _think_ I'm good? Then again, I deleted it in the first place 🤔

@12:00 But... if it can tell it is on Arch and using pacman why can't it also just in the very least show the command to install what it needs if not give you the button to kick it off (with the instructions as a failback)?

this video was hilarious. cheers to both of u for being good sports though lol

Hi, I am experienced Arch Linux user and software developer, but also someone who does not claim to know everything. But that default size thing in KDE is definitely an issue. And how it works in general, most notably with the VM experience. After resizing apps always jump back to default sizes. But also after connecting and disconnecting monitors to a bare metal system. Is that auto resize aspect something I am supposed to configure better?

9:50 kontact is the best, was always using it for caldav, carddav and other accessories. Now im on gnome since it runs better on my machine with wayland, and I miss kontact sooo much

When I watched his video this was my exact thought process 😂

Maybe you should invite Sam for a QA tester :), apparently he has spare free time.

what distro do you use KDE with?

I run Arch but Im a experienced poweruser , Arch is a hobbyist distro. i like fixing broken things. it mostly works. but it doesnt sometimes when i tinker with it, but thats fun for me to fix problems because I want to learn EVERYTHING . this video was an amazing video

@catchnkill

10 ай бұрын

I think that it is not a particularly Arch problem. It is a general thing for rolling release distros. They do not have the time available as regular release like Ubuntu to test everything perfect. Rolling release breaks things. I agree with you that Arch is a hobbyist distro.

Is there a distro with android emulation configured out of the box?

11:18 "you should have use ubuntu" meanwhile the panda is breaking the keyboard its so funny to me im crying

Thanks for your Amazing Reaction Mr Nico Good Old SamTime Didn't Know How To use Linux properly And Is it ok for Me To Keep Using Kubuntu Without Snaps

I started with endeavorOS and then went to straight arch as a beginner and honestly it was very smooth for me

He's trying a three finger swipe up, which on macOS is "show all windows + desktops"

sddm defaults to that theme on Deck when you enable it by default---you need the Breeze SDDM theme set in your conf to load it

the way Arch shows how to setup SDDM doesn't use the Breeze theme by default

I hate how so many people just don't research how to ACTUALLY do what they want and what it actually is. Like they literally don't care at all

It's first time I'm seeing your channel You sound Finnish.

i use arch btw ... and there is a reason people say it. It requires driving-license levels of efforts to be able to use arch linux ... as in i believe anyone of sound mind is probably able to do it, but its not just "free"

Hey Nicco, Great video, per usual 🙌🏼😃 I thought you would be using Arch Linux. I started with Ubuntu and other Debian/Ubuntu based distorts, now I’m only using Arch Linux with KDE and I love it. I also like Samtime, he’s funny and takes the pis on all tech related, so it’s not only Linux/KDE.

Kubuntu 22.x and 23.x works very well on Macbook Air. There are specific instructions on how to get the wifi drivers after Ubuntu install on a Mac (by cable), and for the rest any hardware-related bugs are as common as for PCs (very few I mean).

Im running Fedora KDE on an older Win 10 laptop and I love it.

i am sooooooooo exited for kde 6 so so so exited

Arch was my first linux distro and i still use it. Do i recommend people to do that, no but it can be done. just how willing are you to spend time and effort to learn.

Linux distributions were always for creative people with extraordinary curiosity. Thank you for your great work and your creativity! Floating panels are amazing!

Using Linux since the late 90's, I'm about done with distro hopping. I cut my teeth on Gentoo and Slack, but now I'm more interested in getting work done more than tinkering as in the "old days." The first GUI I used was the first iteration of Gnome, then KDE2, KDE3 then after the disasterous KDE4 I switched to Gnome again, but since 2018 I'm back with KDE, which to me is the best DE of them all. I have settled on Q4OS distro, Debian based and it "just works." I'm happy!

But... isn't Asahi/Arch the only thing he can run on his machine? He can't choose Ubuntu can he?

isnt there a version of fedora that uses asahi

Yeah, i also installed Ubuntu after hearing about what Linux was back in the mid 2000's. I used it regularly for fun, there wasn't much you could do, Wine was far from perfect and I was just experimenting with different DE's. In 2020 i finally switched to Arch Linux/KDE and it's running fantastic! Can't wait for KDE6!

A friend of mine studies in an university where there's a fellow student which uses voidlinux from a corebooted macbook eradicating all proprietary apple code downto the chips. He said the profs ain't happy helping them because it's physically impossible to install certain stuff they need for their research. It is a wonder that this even remotely works.

I agree with you, I felt everything wrong while watching that video 😅

I just figured Sam was goofing around and having a good laugh about it. He certainly got me laughing. 🤣

4:54 I think it was from editing BUT we need a login sound for Plasma now! It's a small detail that's really nice and would give Plasma an identity. Also, you could make it configurable same as switching wallpapers, accent colors, etc.

@christopheriman4921

11 ай бұрын

I mean I currently have a login sound setup in KDE but the setting is so obscure that even I may not be able to find it a second time.

@0.Andi.0

11 ай бұрын

I think they are implementing sound themes and customization for plasma 6

@Bob-of-Zoid

11 ай бұрын

Sound themes are really few and far in between in Linux through the board, just like I don't remember ever seeing a well working screen saver either. Not that they are needed, or didn't waste energy, but seeing your PC doing something when you walk in the room, is like seeing your kid playing, instead of just face down and motionless on the floor!😜

So, when we use Windows beta versions, they make sure user's know that. Mostly they put that on the desktop all the time. Linux distro's like Asahi Linux is in Alpha. So, I think it's a good idea to put something like that. Because somepeople can be put off because these kind of things.

As someone whose first Linux was Slackware and who used Arch for years (btw), i'm legitimately, genuinely impressed that a Mac user who has never used Linux before was able to get a booting, semi-functional Arch Linux install put together is amazing to me. It's really impressive!

Actually installing SDDM on Debian, Gentoo and Arch fallsback to this default theme instead of Breeze, but it's installed

4:22 once i unistalled python from my system and the sddsm looked like this, i had to re install the os, luckily i had a separate home partition with my data.

This is sort of how I imagine Mac users going through daily life.

Well that was painful :) Asahi's website should probably say somewhere that Arch is not beginner friendly. He really should've waited for the Fedora variant. Regarding Discover, would it be too much work though to detect the OS and have the Fix button there to run the pacman commands? I get that the user is wrong but just saying "the user is wrong" doesn't help much and just makes the user hate the entirety of linux.

@vishp47

11 ай бұрын

The reason it's not enabled by default is because discover is set up to do incomplete upgrades as opposed to updating in the terminal. So by using discover to update your packages, you could break your system.

That SDDM theme is what I always see as default on Kubuntu, Pop!_OS, Fedora, etc. I've always had to change the theme myself

I mean, telling him to use Ubuntu is all nice and all, but... Nothing outside of Asahi would work on his machine so that's a mute point.

I love your content, it is nice to hear that you are working on some of the fixes that are needed. I love KDE but sometimes things seem to be more complicated than they have to be.

12:00 in this case, the USER is the fix it button.

Arch based distro that still in its early days with comparatively small dev team, on M1 silicone made by apple using Apple hardware that's notorious for being locked down as much as they can, installed by a complete beginner using KDE which compared to something like Gnome isn't as user-friendly (especially for a mac user it feel closer to that). Yeah, what could go wrong, honestly I more surprised it booted up and mostly worked.

This is helping me understand Linux more than a lot of things, like tutorial videos and technical explanations. Context is important, and I feel like I'm gaining that, with this and the one with LTT. I guess maybe it's making more sense why Linux is the way it is, but tbh, it's also a little like.. understanding why governments are the way they are. It seems hard to fix things. It looks like a lot of developers are just people with widely different opinions, and having to democratically design something is a very slow, difficult way to, well, design. And that's on top of just having very different preferences, background and use cases from the end users coming in, and how after living in Linux for a while, what's obvious becomes a very different thing to each. I guess after all, Linux really is something that uses up a slot for hobbies/projects. It's not just done on the side like Windows, you have to sit down and properly be into it, unless you're just doing very basic things anyways. Something you have to have or make room for, to have time for. I don't know if it's an answer to Microsoft.. Microsofting (they've really been turning it up to 11... get it?). I miss Windows 7.

This was so much fun to see! But watched Sams Video when it came out and it had me in tears! Especially his Preboot joke was Gold! If there's one thing I wish I knew how to do in KDE, it's having the same swipe Gestures as in Gnome, because I hot used to that Workflow so badly and I only work with a Trackpad (yes even when my Laptop is plugged into a Monitor, I use my Magic Trackpad). That said, KDE is really awesome and I love how customizable it is!

and you're again, not realizing he's trying to record things without knowing how to manage packages or that he doesn't have a capture card or that setting up display mirroring wouldn't be automatic or how to record before login or just assuming that OBS on Apple Silicon would be accelerated

SAMTIME should have used a machine compatible with Linux with Linux preinstalled.

Nah to be honest I don"t think there's a more user-friendly desktop than another one. It really depends on how you take your time to learn it. For example I find KDE really user-friendly, and GNOME not so much, but that's just because I didn't take the time to learn to learn GNOME. I was just using Ubuntu back then as a newbie and I distro-hopped a lot, until I found KDE (and later Arch, then I used KDE on it), which I immediately liked and wanted to actually learn it (and even though as a newbie I didn't understand a lot of things about Linux in general). So yeah. Depends on if you want to learn how to use of a desktop or not

@Fiveward

11 ай бұрын

This is a great take. The "beginner friendly" distros do get out of your way more than ones you have to set up though. It is 100% up to how you take your time to learn it like you said, but I completely understand if jumping in with Arch first is a bit much for some people. That said, you don't need to be an expert to run Arch. If you are willing to take your time to learn it can be a great starting point. It's funny our paths were so similar starting with Ubuntu and distro hopping until we landed on Arch. I landed on Gnome instead of KDE and feel completely comfortable with it, yet I am not comfortable with KDE because I haven't spent the time to learn it, which further proves your point.

@Fiveward

11 ай бұрын

@@arjix8738 The last time I used Ubuntu it was using Gnome 2 lol. I learned Gnome 40 on Fedora and Arch which do start with default experiences. Either way you can still learn how to use a DE if it's preconfigured.

@pepitomlg

11 ай бұрын

@@arjix8738 Well, I find that Ubuntu GNOME is relatively close to GNOME vanilla. But I understand it's not the default GNOME experience

I think the point was that the help for Arch Linux from the Arch Wiki is pretty good, albeit a little confusing. But as you said, its for experienced users. I ran it and im back on Debian KDE. Another point that i would like to make, is that installing KDE on arch is not like installing Debian (or other distros) with KDE. It is my belief that Debian has tested and possibly tweaked KDE to run very smoothly on their OS. I don't think we all know the tweaks or black magic tricks to tweak ARCH properly to run KDE. cheers

Watching Niccos reaction video is actually more fun than Samtimes original. 😊

I am no expert but before I switched to Linux I read up and watched as many vids as I could. I learned very quickly that ARCH was for experts only and was steered towards Mint or Ubuntu to start with. Only a fool would jump in at the hardest level and expect success. It is like learning to drive by jumping in high powered sports car.

@STNKbone

11 ай бұрын

I also watched many videos before switching to Linux, but I chose Arch as my first distro and it was fine. It really isn't hard to use. The command line install is more involved, yeah, but it just boils down to following some instructions on the Arch wiki. And besides, there are scripts and custom ISOs that make the install easy. Beyond that, using Arch with KDE is no different than using any other distro with KDE.

@Bob-of-Zoid

11 ай бұрын

Then I'm a fool, because I got so pissed at Windows one day, I switched to Linux (Ubuntu) cold turkey. No dual boot, no Windows machine for backup, and I even destroyed the CD's! Best decision I have ever made! I had to go through Linux boot camp, and so dug in and took it seriously. I was on Arch and KDE plasma (Antergos) a few months later and have been with it for over a decade now! I am on EndeavourOS which rose from Antergos's ashes via the Antergos forum community.

ironically the only time i install linux on a mac, imac to be exact is when apple deemed it to be obsolete to the point youtube wouldn't even work, the only problem was a wifi driver, but guy was using ethernet so that was not a problem, oh and imac still runs to these day, probably lol

How did he mess up the app store and such on arch? I don't want to be elitist but like kde basically installs itself after you install it through pacman. I'm guessing it must be an issue with how Asahi Linux install configures everything.

@Plueschtroll

11 ай бұрын

​@danielhalachev4714 "Missing" is relative. It is an optional package. It's really not Arch's fault that Discover is almost worthless without it. However, pacman works just fine, so there is always an alternative.

12:20 bro really lost it 😂

This reminded me of something I keep hearing Arch users mention when discussing updating arch.... more often than not, they are so worried that updates will break their system, I hear (on podcasts etc), experienced arch users comment that they do updates perhaps every 2-3 months incase of breakage... For someone who is running Arch to be bleeding edge, how is this logical?? I am running rolling Ubuntu, and Debian Sid,... and I update at least every day... doesn't that suggest that being a few weeks behind arch leaves you mostly ahead if arch users generally don't update often?... bizarre.

iirc asahi now has an option to install fedora. It wouldn't have worked perfectly either (because asahi doesn't have full hardware support yet) but it would've been much better