KDE PLASMA 5.27: the biggest, best KDE release yet!
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00:00 Intro
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01:39 Plasma Welcome: good onboarding experience
03:26 Tiling Window Manager: good first step, but...
05:44 Plasma Desktop: usability improvements everywhere
08:54 Wayland Support improvements
10:04 Multi Monitor: finally fixed!
11:12 Settings: of course there are changes here
12:26 Discover: finally lives up to its name
13:26 Final thoughts: it's wonderful!
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The new Welcome app will open after a fresh KDE install. It explains the basics, like how to connect to the internet or how to change settings, but it also presents a bunch of great features Plasma has and never really talked about before.
While Kwin won't replace a full tiling window manager, it now has the ability to create tiling layouts, and then to place windows in the various tiles you created. To set up a tiling layout, you press Super + T, and you'll get that overview, with a default layout, in 3 columns. And then, once your layout suits you, all you have to do is drag a window while holding Shift, and your window will automatically occupy the tiling zone it's sitting above.
The widgets and tools have received so many improvements that even in this lengthy section, I can't list them all. First, Krunner got a, update to surface more relevant search results. When hovering over widgets, they'll tell you what you can expect if you middle click them. The tooltips have also been greatly improved.
The calendar widget now also supports the Hebrew calendar. The battery monitor shows the status of connected devices, the media applet now has 2 layouts, one for horizontal panels, and one for vertical panels, with the album art only.
The color picker can now show up to 9 colors, and clicking a color will automatically copy it to the clipboard, with a notification. The weather widget can now display the temperature in the task bar.
Folder view now lets you show hidden folders, pop up notes will make links clickable by default, and Kickoff now supports separators in the menu. The wallpaper list should be much faster, changing wallpapers now uses a transition animation.
Floating panels will be automatically de floated when a window touches them, and they'll use less padding and less space in that defloated mode. The breeze theme now has an outline around windows in dark mode, which makes them more easy to parse at a glance, trying to use a VPN will prompt you to install the relevant plugin.
Plasma now supports high resolution scrolling under wayland, and they now support content types, which lets the compositor adjust the display's refresh rate depending on what you're doing.
Fractional scaling is also now natively supported under Wayland. When sharing your screen on wayland, the window picker will now have thumbnails to let you decide what you want to share.
And there's also a new setting to let Xwayland application access global shortcuts.
Plasma revamped multi monitor support, so all panels, windows, wallpapers, and widgets are saved per monitor, and restored when a monitor is plugged back in.
Next are flatpak permissions. They have their own new settings page, that lets you review what applications have access to, and give them more permissions, or remove some.
Discover will now show more flatpak permissions on application pages. The homepage has received a new look. The "all applications" button is also now back in the sidebar, and when you're searching for something, if nothing is available, you'll get a message and a button to search the whole store.
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@SergioBocanegra
Жыл бұрын
excuse what Disto will be updating to the new Kde this week and has full wayland support?
Kudos, or better yet, kongratulations to the KDE team for such an amazing release.
@ligmagiga
Жыл бұрын
"kongratulations" nice
@WohaoG
Жыл бұрын
KDos from Konqi
@TheHENOOB
Жыл бұрын
Dude is changing c with k just like Mortal Kombat ☠️
@theonly32
2 күн бұрын
K sounds kooler.
"KDE is bloated now" sounds like something the biggest arch user would say
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Oh and they say it often 😂
@sprinklednights
Жыл бұрын
Well KDE Plasma is bloated, but not in a bad way at least. Software with a minimal feature set can still be extremely bloated. For KDE Plasma, the bloat is fair enough.
@ent2220
Жыл бұрын
That's actually why I went with GNOME. KDE just felt bloated and reminded me of Windows ,which I tried to get away from, not only due to privacy but the whole concept. I absolutely love dconf-editor / gsettings and use it as often as possible. I don't want to go into a GUI app with a thousand options (in KDEs case) and have to click on stuff, drag things, or copy my home folder, where KDE crates a billion "rc" files. Though I'm slowly considering giving KDE another shot given how many more features it has, and GNOME lib-adwaita situation, where you literally have to log out for the new theme to be applied to everything. Plus I already use quite a few KDE/qt productivity and media consumption apps anyway (but flatpaked/sandboxed) and absolutely can't stand the GNOME ones. Few things I really dislike about KDE are how integrated its components were last time I used it. In GNOME I have even uninstalled the software center and no issues. The other is the absolutely weird way in which KDE/Dolphin mounts new devices (in some made up folders that only Dolphin knows about). And the third is the blatenent disrespect towards masterrace users like myself when Dolphin, Kate etc. literally forbade me from running them as "sudo" from the terminal. That's why I said KDE felt like Windows to me. Who do you think you are trying to tell me what to do?
@tranarchist6335
Жыл бұрын
Arch user here! Basically all DEs are bloated to some extent, but I don't mind because I like having basic functionality out of the box. Compulsively chasing every last byte of memory is fucking stupid unless you have an old/crappy computer and actually need every last byte of memory
@valerianmp
Жыл бұрын
I used to install KDE on Arch lol
What an amazing release! I always switch between Gnome and KDE every couple of major releases, looks like that won't change anytime soon when both DEs improve so quickly.
@cameronbosch1213
Жыл бұрын
I literally have two Arch installs on the same disk but in different partitions for that reason; one with GNOME; the other (and the main OS) with KDE Plasma.
@wassim-akkari
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 Do you notice any difference in Font rendering between both ?
@harshsrivastava9570
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 why not keep one arch install with both kde and gnome?
@suryaya441
Жыл бұрын
@@wassim-akkari I've found KDE's to be better than GNOME's for some reason, at least on medium DPI screens.
@cameronbosch1213
Жыл бұрын
@@harshsrivastava9570 Configuration of things like file associations gets screwed up that way.
Also a small little detail that I find really useful in this release - you can now drag and drop an image in the color picker widget and it will spit the dominant color of this image to you.
Oh yeah, KDE just keeps getting better and better. I currently have version 5.26 and just recently I encountered a couple of bugs that were fixed in this release. Good job, KDE team. And good job, Nick. Thanks for the detailed video.
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! The KDE team has been awesome for this release, they did an amazing job!
4:15 The "floating" in this context just makes a window tile to any defined place on screen. Meaning you can tile it to a specific area and not just relative to screen edges.
the tiling was already enough for me but they did deliver so much on 5.27, looks like I'm gonna be a KDE user for a looooong time
@thingsiplay
Жыл бұрын
The best thing is, they have an API for the tiling features. So people can write custom scripts and addons to extend the capabilities. In example I would love to see an autotiling functionality without zones and without manually tiling. Looks promising so far. KDE is a power house!
@DavidBerglund
Жыл бұрын
@@thingsiplay I want automatic tiling as well. Was looking at tiling WMs like i3, Sway and others but I realize I'd be stuck configuring my computer instead of using it
@thingsiplay
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidBerglund I switched to Qtile a long time ago, but still follow what KDE does. As it is installed on my bros laptop and our Steam Decks. Can't stress enough how much I like KDE Plasma. And you are right that an initial configuration period and learning the tiling window manager takes quite time. But at least some distros offer a pre configuration of i3 in example, where you don't need to do a lot of work to get it working. But I can absolutely understand your point and that's why I think it's phenomenal that KDE gets tiling features.
@DavidBerglund
Жыл бұрын
@@thingsiplay yeah I'm sure I'd like the setup after some initial tweaking and learning but that time is simply not there anymore. I went "a little crazy" and put EndeavourOS on my laptop this weekend, with the latest KDE no less. It was pretty painless... Until I shot myself in the foot and broke the KDE environment after trying to install Sway/Wayland on there. KDE wouldn't start correctly. Exactly the kind of stupid thing I knew I'd do to myself so I went and reinstalled with Kubuntu 23.04 daily while waiting for the stable release. Feels like home as I'm exclusively working with Ubuntu servers and previously (years ago) used Ubuntu on the desktop. It's nice to use desktop linux again after many years on MacOS and Win 10.
Oh god. I just installed Fedora Silverblue with GNOME and thought: "I'm never switching again" 🤣🤣
I hope we see this version of Plasma make it into Debian 12. Upgrading from Plasma 5.20 will be such a thrill.
I am very excited to get my hands on this! KDE never fails to get me excited for what would be the most mundane of features in the eyes of normal people 🥰
Your HOLD SHIFT while draging on tiling was exactly what I needed to know!
The tiling feature indeed doesn't have keyboard shortcuts. As far as I understand, this feature is mostly about infrastructure and API and we can expect kde-store extensions to appear that will offer keyboard shortcuts and fancy workflow. I mean as soon as everyone figures out the new global shortcut Wayland protocol...
Awesome video and presentation. I gotta play around with all these stuff now!
Thanks for the great rundown! 😀
great overview :) Plasma is now really mature desktop
Great video! I'm excited to get this release on my laptop soon!
Thanks for the summary!
I'm finally trying to get serious about ditching Windows for Linux but in all the many different distros I've tried, I've just never been happy with the look and feel. Yesterday I stumbled on the video about installing Tuxedo Linux on a none Tux laptop so I gave it a try on my old Dell XPS. Man, I really like this and it has Plasma which I'm seeing for the first time. I really really like it and it is a keeper, at least on my laptop. It's on Plasma 5.24 and it looks like Tux has not offered 5.27 yet but I like what I see so far. I haven't gone down the whole self hosting bit yet but I have switched from MS Onedrive to pCloud ( Switzerland servers ) so I am slowly trying to get away from big tech. I'm trying!
@Quephara
Жыл бұрын
Welcome
dude your all KDE news coverage is the best in class! Thanks for putting up so much work on this!
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s always a pleasure to showcase what they’ve built!
Wonderful video! My only wish is for someone to file the proper bug reports for the section with the new tiling mode. It has some good ideas! But they need to be seen and heard by the devs. The "one more click kde is bloated now" bit is def my favourite 😆
Excellent demo of the new features.🙏
I seriously enjoy your linux videos! Keep up the great info
That tiling system is very cool! Seeing it in action it's less like a tiling WM or Pop's tiling system and more like the Fancy Zones tool in Windows. Except a lot more powerful and flexible. This is a great thing. I really loved Fancy Zones in Windows, but it was always a bit of a messy implementation. It's also great to see KDE add some much needed spit and polish. Seeing Wayland finally become a first class citizen on KDE makes me smile. The transition is finally falling into place. Also, Discover is really coming together. All of this is getting me really excited for KDE 6. We really are spoiled for choice when it comes to excellent DEs on Linux.
Let's fucking go! Already in Opensuse
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
WoW they’re fast!!
@act.13.41
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLinuxEXP Yes. Quicker than even Arch. 5.26 was the same.
Jikes! Love the update! I now use the tiling. ^^ hahaha
I'm very much looking forward to this release! The word I'm hearing is it may make it into Debian's next stable release. I'd definitely be down to daily drive 5.27 for a few years!
This tiling system works similar to MS Fancyzone, I quite like it. But totally agree about ability to save your own custom layouts as presets.
Thanks for explaining the tiling feature. I tried dragging windows with Super-key when I was supposed to hold down Shift. I'm sure making it easier to discover and understand will help with adoption and hopefully bring more feedback to the devs. I've been away from desktop linux for many years but I think I picked the perfect moment to get back into it!
@DavidBerglund
Жыл бұрын
I remember installing the very first Plasma release and seeing so much promise. But it needed some time to develop obviously so I stuck with XFCE back then.
Oh yes oh yes, it's worth the wait! I'm now awaiting it's arrival on Debian's testing branch. Things might get messy for me as the installation I have started on KDE Neon with Plasma 5.9, them I switched to Debian's testing branch in between releases 9 and 10 and Plasma 5.10, but I'll probably try searching Debian repos for any packages I might be missing, and update my third-party customisations (including those I use to make Plasma 5 look like older KDE Desktop (pre-Plasma) releases.
3:00 personally they really ought to keep it there in settings. Most people wouldn't go out of there way to look up "telemetry" in settings, but if they stumble across it they might think to change it. Telemetry is one of those things people won't ever really go out of their way to act on, but will usually act on it if they just see it passively.
I love ya rants Nick.... they always seem to be spot on.
I was already on the beta and the experience has been amazing so far! Thanks to all the KDE team, exciting times ahead!
Great release KDE! I like many features I just prefere Gnome for its menu and simplicity but I am alway looking over to KDE and it is awesome to see so much support for it and cool new implementations. Gnome and KDE can learn from each other and push each other to be even better and both of them are on top of the Desktop Game.
Those tiling layouts look amazing.
Great review! Thank you team KDE!
This look really good!
Looks great!
I like the new font and presentation better than what you did before, it's more coherent.
I would have been excited about this two years ago when I started using Linux now I do just about every thing with the terminal. MIT has a great video on basic operation of the terminal I recommend people who are ready to watch
I love the fact that there is someone covering all of this
Wow that's massive :) I want the ability to customize trackpad gestures now :) Yey gonna switch!
It so happens that I have just installed KDE plasma on Debian11 (...after I was appalled by the horrible default Gnome UI) and I can say that the new KDE is a piece of ART! Functional and beautiful at the same time. I love it!
Damn I am so glad for these updates, now I will patiently wait for them to come into OpenSuse
Thanks for the video! Actually, my experience with multi-monitor support (laptop + external) was much better than on Gnome , when I switched a couple months ago.
I can't wait for 5.27 to be shipped on Fedora - I've been stuck with Gnome due to the multi-monitor issues, and I can't wait to switch back!
Linux user since 2001 and arch/KDE user since 2014, never came across such review, great work, keep it up.
Nice that the multimonitor support has been fixed and works normal at least.🙂 With previous version of kde I had a broken desktop icons in dual monitor setup after restart.🙄😥
These new tiling features are a godsend for me! They work sorta like the microsoft powertoys ones and I've been trying for years to make KDE behave like that because it's very handy and fast. It's a great improvement in my opinion.
@hermespymander9167
Жыл бұрын
I think its better than the powertoys, for some reason, not all windows worked with tilling on windows 10.
@Sjoerdschouten
Жыл бұрын
@@hermespymander9167 It's really not since Powertoys include more features than just Fancy Zones (That's how the tiling is called in Powertoys.) I also consider Powertoys to be more mature than what was shown in this demo. I like the progress though. A decent PowerToys/Fancy Zones inspired tool (that is not full tiling) is more than welcome and needed on Linux DEs. I personally am not a fan of Pop!_OS's approach because you can't predefine grids and its either on or off.
The tiling reminds me a little of the tiling in the windows powertoys (good thing not a bad one) with the way you can split zones
Right, but can we duplicate panels onto other monitors now?
@3:20 That is so spot on! 😅🤣
Thanks for another great video! I really can't decide in what I want to use 😄 fedora with gnome or KDE plasma 😂
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’m in the same boat, I kinda want to go back to KDE in my desktop
Nick thanks much for making these video. You have really stepped the game as an influencer. Linux community
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@AdamDymitruk
Жыл бұрын
Agree. 1M subscribers is closer than you think.
that is awesome
This is a good way to send of Plasma 5, lots of new changes, but still polished and well done. I can't wait until Plasma 6 though. I don't mind waiting a bit, but I can't wait to see what new features it will bring. Will there be a fresh coat of paint and lots of features, or will 6 be more stable and smoothing out Plasma? Will X11 still be supported beyond Plasma 5, and if so, for how long?
@EonNShadow
Жыл бұрын
Looks like Plasma 5.27 is an LTS release so it should get a fair bit of support.
Did they add finally in File explorer Group by type ( and other option like in Windows) in ICON View and plus with the gaps and lines between different type of file ? Did they add possibility to change any key on keyboard > example F13 that doing nothing but is recognized by the system and you can assign this F13 to like on My Windows > be a Caps lock but work only with the Discord to do a voice key.
Let's gooo
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the release!
It’s a culture shock to see people excited about new versions like this vs the caution (fear) around new Windows.
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Hahah yeah, on Linux, new releases are cool, on Windows, they’re a cause for fear 😧
Great release, thank you for the explainer. Can I finally have the same taskbar on all monitors with pinned icons updating all at once? It's always been my main gripe with KDE and the reason I'm currently using Gnome.
This is outstanding. Kudos to the KDE Plasma team.
tiling window manager is awesome!
I'm going to miss KDE Plasma... Until KDE Plasma 6 comes out! 😂 Seriously though, I can't wait for all of the changes in KDE Plasma 6!
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, me too!
@alexatkin
Жыл бұрын
Makes me nervous though, every major version number seems to re-introduce major new issues.
@cameronbosch1213
Жыл бұрын
@Alex Atkin KDE Plasma 5 was not KDE 4 (even if distros pushed KDE 4 before it was ready). KDE Plasma 5 was actually much more stable, and while it was missing some KDE 4 features, they came back with KDE Plasma 5.1, which returned them. I think it's going to be more like what going from GNOME 3.38 to GNOME 40, a refresh with moderate improvements, but nothing like GNOME 2.32 to GNOME 3.
@spl420
Жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 yeah, it looks like they're working on upgrading current plasma experience, so what i think they gonna do is improvment of tiling, maybe some redesigns, and a lot of usabilty improvments.
@cameronbosch1213
Жыл бұрын
@@spl420 I do think there will be a theme refresh to Breeze, as well as further customization options and (of course) the move to Qt 6. But yeah, it's more of a moderate update; bigger than KDE Plasma 5.26 to 5.27, but smaller than the move from KDE 4 to KDE Plasma 5.
This update is incredible!
Impressive stuff, and that's only because you made a video on the topic a few weeks ago 😛 Did they fix the bug, that's been existing for yeaaaaaaaars, that happen when you create a custom mouse shortcut, with conditions, and then you click the [Detect automatically] button to select the window/app you want to apply that shortcut to ? -> You can't select a window outside of the KDE Settings program 😕
Yeeeesssss! All of this is great.
I legitimately got excited for a split second that KDE had a DnD plugin widget or something
I didn't know I could do tiling in kde other than just dragging it to the top to full screen. Thanks man.
Wooow, congratulations to the KDE team, they have done an amazing job.
This is a literal "holy $hit, this is crazy" release. Give it a couple of more years and plasma will be everywhere.
@LoneWolf_11-11
Жыл бұрын
Yeah "Krazy"
I went with KDE Fedora on my first graphcal linux desktop last month (daily driving chromebook for half a year already, long story, it was painful but made me learn terminal) and i was curious why gnome seemed to be all the talk with kde as a second choice. Didnt know that the glory i witnessed was not even 3 months old. Incredible stuff. I even convinced few windows users with its prettiness and customisability
I love this update (as a KDE user). #KDEneon #KDESteamOS
@TheLinuxEXP
Жыл бұрын
It’s really good!
@HShango
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLinuxEXP Yep
Absolutely amazing release!
Nice new Plasma release!
I have a question about Discover and Manjaro. When you start Manjaro KDE the first time you can install apps with the Manjaro Hello screen and also with Discover and the default GUI packet manager. But what is the best way on Manjaro? Should I use discover or the default GUI? With Manjaro Hello I am a bit sceptical.
I'm still more of a Cinnamon desktop guy (both Mint and Garuda) but have grown to appreciate Linux OSes with KDE Plasma desktop UIs.
I never thought I'd hear that Wayland support was actually complete on something
i seriously tried to click the updates button in discover when you were scrolling lmao
Just a note about Wayland's scaling. KDE can use the native scaling methods in the app's toolkit. This is an important detail because neither Qt5 nor GTK4 implement this scaling yet. Qt6 has it, meaning we won't see much benefit to this change in practice until Plasma 6 or until that scaling mechanism is back-ported to Qt5.
What is that window manager called? ty for the video!!
what distro did you use to showcase the new kde version?
Where can I find the wallpaper with the mountains please?
Super Key + T doesn't do nothing for me, neither holding Shift while trying to tile any window. Another thing, on desktop effects, there is no such thing as Tiling Editor. I have have the fresh install of today's version. Does anybody knows how to activate them? Thanks!
Playing with it now on my laptop. It looks nice. I just have this feeling... Thinking back to how great KDE 3.5 was and then 4.0 dropped on us and we all said, "What fresh hell is this?"
@bragefuglseth3505
Жыл бұрын
KDE 6 is pretty much «just a port to QT6» to begin with. The changes won’t be as jarring :)
Looking forward to getting this on EndeavourOS, btw.
Kickoff search - that does indeed use the krunner search implementation.
I'm on Arch with 5.27 and I do not find tiling in the settings...
im on steam deck socurrently on kde 5 so when kde 6 comes out will i be able to get it? or will i have to buy it as a seperate distro
What is your experience of KDE on tablet? Have you tried testing the KDE's touch screen version on tablet? I'd love to see you covered these window managers on the tablets.
Hi. What's the distribution?
lmao, i needed to ask in the kde foruns how to use the tiling because it's so hidden, they could put in the welcome center about it tho but they also said it's an infancy feature, or something, so it's possible in the future the tiling gain it's on tab in the setting menu
@cameronbosch1213
Жыл бұрын
I mean, it could be coming with KDE Plasma 6. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't make the final cut for Plasma 6 due to time constraints, but I _would_ be surprised if it _wasn't_ added soon (as well as Wayland touchpad gesture configuration).
KDE Plasma 5.27 is such a great release. Looking forward to using it in Kubuntu 23.04.
which linux he is using for showcase?
What a freaking Banger of a release, oh my god.
Waking up from sleep still occasionally breaks the login page if you have a multi-monitor support
How's the animations here ? I used kde a year ago ! How's it now ?
Wow insane ! I hope valve give my steamdeck the new kde version and the new lts 6.2 kernel
I always watch your videos from 1:40
3:17 😂, very true.
Man, KDE looks so good. The tiling only lacks tabbed layout and I would be considering switching from i3.