This was an interesting video to make. Imagine if I took 7 of the 10 wins, kept one close loss, and made a 1 hour video, I could even title it "HIGHEST WINRATE DECK IN TIMELESS". A lot of people would think this deck is amazing. Is that the right thing to do? I can tell you it works better for KZread. I've done that for years. What do you think?

@Kuryux

6 ай бұрын

no outro though? Shaaaame

@CorneliusQvist

6 ай бұрын

@@KuryuxUngrateful and ignorant. Be quiet bro.

@ReasonSama

6 ай бұрын

I want to see the reality. Even if the video doesn’t contain it I want you to talk about the deck honestly and rate it based on your experience.

@splinter8819

6 ай бұрын

Cgb forgetting his own rule...NO QUESTIONS!

@reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366

6 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s my gripe with most videos on stuff like this. Showing the honest gameplay might get less views from most people, but I know I at least appreciate it more and am far more likely to watch the whole thing

I can’t lie, these videos including loses help me realize it’s not just me getting messed over by arena. I enjoy them!

@Bersarker

6 ай бұрын

Very True!

@clarab6092

6 ай бұрын

Totally true. I've noticed there are certain times when certain decks work for me. Sometimes, no deck works at all and I just lose 70% of the time with any kind of deck. Sometimes aggro takes me up 3 tiers easily, sometimes control does. And then there always comes the point after climbing the ladder like crazy that I start losing like crazy. By now, once I lose 3 games in a row after having a super good run, I just close the game and continue playing the next day because I know that if I continue playing, I'll just end up losing all the progress I made, falling back to a 50% win rate. Or I'll try with a different deck and if that doesn't fix it, I continue the next day. Take what you have and stop going for more. That's actually a super helpful strategy to climb more consistently. Once you notice that you go into a losing streak, stop playing and start again another day. I don't know why it works, but it does. Also, the first game after entering a new tier is always a loss. I think it happened only a handful of times that I entered a new tier and won.

@l0lan00b3

6 ай бұрын

Yeah you’re not alone. You might be getting streaked on but remember the won winning isn’t the same player and is probably losing every other game too lol

“This mother fucking mount doom” 😂

@theotheralan5511

5 ай бұрын

I side it out sometimes 😜 and side int two swamps and three blood moon.

I appreciate the straight honesty. Rather than go out and spend wildcards to try and find a deck I like, there's 2 hours of a pretty accurate rendition of learning and playing a deck(also an idea of how long it might take to get a grip of it).

Please dear god CGB play that Oracle of the Alpha, One Ring, Narset, Displacer Kitten deck. I'd love watching you play that. This was like watching you play mono red

@leomeror

6 ай бұрын

I second this!!!

Definitely need more timeless content like this, full runs no cutting of losses!

This video is one of the best I have seen of Arena. Most of the loses were not misplays but just pure bad luck , showing the real nature of the game. Thanks for being honest about the deck performance.

@matthewmoats4304

6 ай бұрын

He kept using bolt when he had skewers active. I would call those misplays. I think one game he might have won if he had had kept his bolt and used the skewer when spectacle was active.

Timeless content! Hell yeah!

Really like the longer, honest videos. I'm finding it harder and harder to watch other content creators who cut the losses because it doesn't feel real

I love seeing losses, same as with your Honest videos, it shows the reality of playing magic instead of as you commented yourself only showing the highlights the low points are important as well

29:52 I LOL'd in real life. Good content. Love the Timeless queue!

Appreciate the honest video! Glad your experiences on arena are so relatable. I definitely learn the most when content isn’t filtered. You’re still my favorite MTG content creator. Keep doing what you’re doing, CGB.

Been watching you for years and I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard you cuss, makes me feel better knowing how frustrating this game can be for other people as well 😂

that Mount Doom rage was so in character XD

I enjoy watching the wins and the losses. It shows what to actually expect from a deck and how to play it better.

Oh god eidolon of the great revel. I played paper magic when that was in standard. It's like a turn 2 sheoldred. So busted

I have LOVED the longer content the past few days, also despite the literal hundreds of hours ive watched you ive only heard you swear fr like 5 times, that mount doom is inescapable😂😂

One problem could be that you are not a burn/aggro player and don't always make the best decision, you tend to think like a control player. Not to mention how many bad hands you kept. Also, the mana base of this deck don't look very good.

@marioalcantara7156

6 ай бұрын

That "no mulligan ever" rule it is quite baffling for a player of such supposed skills.

@thomasbrauer5538

6 ай бұрын

@@marioalcantara7156 he is more used to control mirrors and long games, where every single extra card is super important. A single extra card on average by turn 8 can be as much as a 10% difference in win rate which turns a 55% deck into a 45% deck. Unfortunately he is applying this thinking to a 4-5 turn game which means one or both players usually still has plenty of cards when the game ends.

Happy you made this video. Been thinking I'm a terrible player when I finally give in to craft a "high win rate" deck. Nope, sometimes it's just not for you.

Lolz CGB at 29:52. Right after the real talk section just shows the tilt. Keep it up, still enjoyed watching!

You are amazing! I felt every loss and win with you. Thank you for crafting so I don't have to.

29:50 is the family- friendly CGB I know and love lol

Brutal. I really didn't need a reminder why I will never play arena again but there it was.

Love the timeless content❤

The beating that you took was hard enough that I had to take two days to watch it all. Love your content though. I'm glad to see its not all unicorns and rainbows ALL the time.

That last game against Grixis control was nerve wrecking.

Love the long video! ❤

Out of curiosity in game 12 how was kitten lethal? Like they could flicker bowmaster for damage or narset for cards but i didnt see outright lethal and you had bump plus skewer for lethal next turn

It's always a good day when CGB drops an f-bomb in the video.

it was the "having mount doom in opening hand again reaction" that didn't for me... chef's kiss

Damn, that last game was wild. I wonder if you would have drawn a land to win if you didn't cast the play with fire. That was what.. 5 draw steps missed?

Was there, watched the whole thing - endured it with you

This was like watching my worst day of Magic.. just painful. Thanks for taking the hit.

man, always appreciate you showing the real stuff... clearly we play in arena and not always win, most likely almost never win haha content's great! thanks

This video marks the second time I've heard CGB drop the F bomb, lol!!! The frustration is real.

1:41:57 when you didn’t bauble, they only had 1 mana open so couldn’t cast bow master?

I loved the frustration at the 30 min mark.

You are the last MTG creator I watch because of this kind of content.

Worth a comment. I like the long video

Have you considered deathrite shaman in this deck? It’s graveyard hate, ramp and grim lavamancer in a single card and it doesn’t die to bowmaster.

This format is so sweaty 🥵

cgb keeping it real, thank you!

Definitely love longer honest videos, and anything but standard.

more 2 hr plus videos. i loved it

CGB - I would love to see you play some world champ decks in the new Timeless format. I think it would be great content. Thanks

10-16 makes me feel better after I go 2-8 on Arena. Appreciate the honesty!

With the right combination of fetch lands, hand smoother gets dumb brain and anything works. After that it's just recreating power creep strategies from yugioh. 2 removal per starting hand with around 50% draw ratio(handtraps), and everything but major engine creatures create tempo even if removed. Tempo got really fast so in this meta things like 3 mana removal are too slow and expensive. Going first became a very important part of meta last few months, and exiling is now useful.

How is this supposed to get Delirium for Dragon's Rage Channeler? It needs to draw either a Bauble or the single fetchland. The Channeler is far better if you can get Delirium reliably. Edit: The Reckoner Raids count, of course. Still seems too hard to get Delirium.

As an eternal format would you say this is worth crafting and getting into as a basically F2P player? It seems like once the initial investment (lighting bolt, bowmaster, fetches, etc.) would be basically set.

@christopherjackson6345

6 ай бұрын

It feels more worth it to me. I mostly play draft and piled up wildcards because I always felt like if I crafted a standard deck, those cards would be useless since I so infrequently dip into constructed. I felt none of that spending 16-20 wildcards on this format because I’ll always be able to play it

Oh man some of these games were brutal.

It was like a slow motion trainwreck

this is what it looks like almost every single day that I play this game :)

Hey that’s my deck - it’s awesome!

so is timeless just like the Arena style of Modern?

But CGB. Tell us how you really feel about Mount Doom?! 😆 Great at what you do.

17:30 in...thats the shuffler at its best

I created a new account in the game, and the other formats besides alchemy are not showing up. Does anyone know how I can unlock the other formats?

@marielebeau2829

6 ай бұрын

Did you finished the whole tutorial part ? Might be time-gated too if your account is very fresh

@tonhodalua450

6 ай бұрын

@@marielebeau2829 I completed the entire tutorial twice, but it still didn't resolve. However, I managed to recover an old account, so for now, the issue is resolved. Thanks.

Maybe I'm a sadist but I kinda like watching CGB suffer... I also can't stop watching timeless gameplay. Love the content!

Timeless content! Abandon ship!

this deck was litterally a historic deck before bowmasters nerf, minus the ragavans

How would this deck perform against white decks, out of curiosity? I feel like white decks would generally suck in timeless, but in a meta dominated by burn, white decks with incidental life gain tend to be amazing. 🤷‍♂️

@kaalesrex2933

6 ай бұрын

I made a mono W d&t deck had some of them unlocked .. and without unfair stuff like moxen, ancient tomb or the initiative it's very hard to win ... however .. a turn 1 stepmom or skrelv into t2 thalia on the play wins more than 80% of the games . I don't think I won a single match on the draw .. but I don't have a good collection and only did a bit less than 20 plays in bo1 plat1 .. was plat2 and geting close to plat3 so i stopped

18th game opponent had a nutty hand

Watching you win vs lose doesn't matter to me nearly as much as whether you're playing a deck I'd enjoy. However, the games I really don't care to see are the ones where one side is massively mana screwed. Even the sweetness of beating mono-red is dulled if they've been stuck on 1-2 mana all game. That said, I mostly enjoy you playing Esper colors for value, so this video was second monitor content for me anyway haha.

This was the hardest video to watch from CGB. THis deck sucked the life out of all of us.

you should try one of the lotr creature combo decks in timeless turn 3 wins

Ex Modern player, and level 1 judge here. Just now getting back into Magic, after a 4 year hiatus. So, Timeless is practically Modern for Arena, right? That's the vibe I'm getting lol. However, there's no ban list? Just wanna make sure I know what to expect lol. So glad to be back, though! I missed this game way too much lol

Mana base was crazy painful

1:26:37 ain’t no way 🤣 That was brutal

CGB, this deck was bed, they just got lucky with the winrate.

with burn being a thing i kinda wanta try a soul sister deck in timeless

@lucscorpion24

6 ай бұрын

in a world with orcish bowmasters, lot of fatal push, L.bolt.....she isnt survive

@drenth27

6 ай бұрын

@@lucscorpion24 one can dream

Legit was about to turn off the vid at 29:14 lol just cause I got bored and wanted to watch a different cgb vid. Then you said that! Lol.

Timeless is cool! But, 2 hours is a looooong video. Personally, I watch the content for the Content™, and I pay attention in the intro & outro for your opinions on the deck.

So the 1-land keep: With 16 hits and 8 looks you only have a 68% probability of hitting a second land. The hand-smoothing algorithm in Bo1 only provides a probability of getting the average distribution of lands and spells. A 7-look 2-land hand is only 60% to have one in the opening so, yeah, don't keep a 1-land hand. The curve on this deck is very low but it's centered around multi-spelling and getting extra value off of the Eidolon triggers so if you keep a 2-lander you can at least start pushing through extra damage and bonus looks at your third land but if you're stuck on one land then, as we see in the video, it's really difficult to get that momentum the deck needs.

Just wanted to say I like watching CGB lose horribly, play poorly and make tons of mistakes. Because it's all well and good seeing the highs (and it's fine not to see the lows as they don't mean much) - but seeing the fight is something we don't get to enjoy often. Much appreciated :)

Are we sure this isnt a BO3 deck with a good sideboard? Cuz in best of one it looks mid.

2:07:00 Bro was complaining about Mount Doom the whole vid and then forgot to use it when it would have won 💀

Please bring a land destruction deck, I really want to see if it's viable in the format!

@christopherjackson6345

6 ай бұрын

It’s playable but not particularly competitive

Please try an azorius ctrl in timeless

Why is it called Radkos?

Timeless!!!

Yay, legacy light ^^

Rags dash cost gets around eidolon so hes not a trash as you think.

Salty CGB is my favourite CGB

@18:57 LOL

Luurus is totally free to play in the deck surely it was just missed

I swear the smoothing algorithm is broken, in a three consecutive Bo3 matches on the 2nd round I get 0 land hands in a 23 land deck

16 lands might be a tad low

im a standard only player so the idea okiba over kumano is crazy but im sure theres a good reason

@LordZurkov

6 ай бұрын

Three reasons I can think of. Kumano *needs* a creature on chapter 2 to be decent, and without it's strictly worse than Okiba IMO. This deck is not as likely to have a follow-up creature as RDW (and all the creatures it has are best played before your noncreatures). DRC also doesn't have haste, which makes putting counters on it a lot less valuable. Okiba pinging on the second chapter lets you enable Spectacle for free the turn after you play it. Being able to cast spectacle cards precombat matters a lot with DRC and swifty, and the more mana you have available the less likely you'll waste an impulse from LUTS. And last, drain is superior to burn in the mirror. In a racing situation, the first two chapters are a 4-life swing versus the 1-life swing from Kumano. Uniquely, it can also hit through The One Ring's protection.

@alexwoodbury8484

6 ай бұрын

@LordZurkov that was an extremely comprehensive answer that actually helped a lot lol. Rare youtube comments W.

MFing Mount Doom 😂❤

really doesn’t feel like eidolon is working in this deck. it punishes you for having aggressive turns where you want to drop a lot of spells with thing like light up the stage. it also doesn’t make sense to be burning yourself in a meta with so many mirror matches.

I like seeing the losses.

I am so sorry that you had to play that game man, I felt so bad for you having to put up with such a trash deck as that one. I would never play that one again if I were anyone in existence. Giving this one a like cause you suffered through this mess.

No questions! I do these things so you don't have too...

I know you were playing the deck as constructed, but the mana base seems terrible. For as often as those pain lands may help you (ie mount doom) more often than not they are costing you games.

Eidolon singlehandedly cost you the game in game 5. Prevented you from using your own cards to finish off the opponent and it dealt you 12+ damage without ever hurting your opponent.

Eidolon just seems so bad in a lurrus deck. Like I get that the deck's strategy is to close close close, but this deck has so much trouble pulling ahead for that.

I watched a little bit because I enjoy your content, but timeless is a format that I’m not really interested in. Hope you had a good holiday!

deck might get a certain win %, but you still need to play the deck. here, as usual, taking best of 3 deck and playing it in BO1. maybe cgb could learn to burn well and make it positive in BO1 too. he just needs to commit with his toilet time.

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