The fact that Sidgwick said last week that he cant wait to bury the Wyatt 6 leads me to believe he isn’t acting in good faith. And definitely not when he talks about Seth

@xfacta334

7 күн бұрын

It would look that way, but Sidge has repeatedly said he is anti supernatural wrestling stuff across the board cause to him it fundamentally never works and that's before his thoughts on the bell to bell work of certain members comes into play. Last week was him respecting the content of Bo's segment even tho he knows the Wyatt stuff likely won't get over with him going forward.

Ive noticed that when Wilbourn reads his notes and makes eye contact with Hamflett, Hamflett nods like the guy whos being told a story by a drunk mate 😂 now i cant unsee it 🤣

“It’s just crap”. Great professional opinion on something that someone is totally biased against. “I hate it”. Yeah, we know

Sidge just loves to dig down to an atomic level to find a reason to hate the product. And then will just give AEW a pass on pretty much everything. Oh you don’t think the Wyatt’s are scary? Oohh big brave boy you are. Guess what, kids do! If I was 12 I’d be absolutely loving this stuff and 20 years down the line there would be huge nostalgia for it.

Mere moments into every fed review Sidge can’t help but insult viewers for enjoying it. Pretentious, smug, obnoxious. Can’t let the other two speak at the same lengths he asserts for himself. Groans and talks down to them for enjoying the show. Utter charisma vacuum.

@syedviqar5011

Күн бұрын

Aew fan boy

Remember last week - obviously on an AEW pod - Sidge said people need to start suspending their disbelief when watching wrestling. Obviously he’ll refuse to do it for a second with WWE because of his weird agenda

@Mr_Waffle.

6 күн бұрын

Suspension of disbelief requires the rules of the universe to be consistent and understandable in context. Who is putting out all those smoke machines for the Wyatt 6? Are the members doing it? Are they getting WWE to do it? If so, why would WWE help when the security guards keep getting beaten up?

Yeah grumpy sidgwick is here to take a giant dump on the Wyatt sick.

So according to Sig logic Wyatt sicks is crap but the elite is fantastic 🤦🏼‍♂️😂😂😂

Yesterday’s smackdown and forbidden door reviews were both excellent. Sidge was great on forbidden door and he wasn’t on the smackdown review. Why is he back on the raw review? Why would anybody be hosting a review show of a product they fundamentally hate and openly admit is not for them (which is totally fine)? Would love for y’all to honestly address this.

@merrillmind

7 күн бұрын

I’ll address it for them. Reviews aren’t meant to be wholly positive, they are meant to be honest and never just sycophants praising without honest criticism they feel is necessary to discuss.

@KHWrld999

7 күн бұрын

@@merrillmindyes but to me he feels biased and argues in bad faith. I know there isn’t anyone who’s truly not biased but I rather have someone who is more of a positive Pete than a negative Nancy like Simon.

@merrillmind

7 күн бұрын

I think with Sidg & Ham you get two balanced perspectives that provide the best analysis and of course criticism of the product. It’s why the podcast is so popular and successful within the pro wrestling discourse space.

@DJ_c2x

7 күн бұрын

Needs to be addressed, Hamflett gives a balanced review Sidgwick is just negative cos he cannot stand that WWE is great and his favorite company is struggling to beat NXT.

@bobbyjoewatson4497

6 күн бұрын

Sidge barely can admit that it's not made for him but it's going to go over for other fans. Then talks down on those fans. He's said it before, he's a hater. And lately it's not just about WWE. He's hating on AEW too. But he's said, he's all about work rate and the business is moving off of that, which is leaving him behind.

The guy in the red shirt is gonna kill this podcast slowly. He's unbearable

I don't think Hamflett is on the wrong side of history. I think the Wyatts represents an experience. Not really prowrestling, but you could argue there is a lot of "non-prowrestling" in prowrestling still. Regardless think of the psychology of why something like a haunted house works. Some folks see through everything and find it fun, some legit find it scary even though they know they won't be hurt, kids are likely terrified, etc. It's like a haunted house meets a movie maybe. And on top of that Bray, Bo, the legacy and connection to fans...it makes sense doesn't it?

Maybe I can help. I watch horror movies daily, I haven't been scared by one in decades. I don't watch Friday The 13th movies because I'm scared of Jason, to me, Jason is the hero, Jason is Captain America. Michael Myers isn't scary to me, he's Iron Man in my horror cinematic universe. Freddy is Thor, Pinhead is Dr. Strange, Pumpkinhead is Ant-Man.

@Niain1

6 күн бұрын

Does this make Uncle Howdy the Gingerdead Man?

@nickebert7453

6 күн бұрын

@@Niain1 😂 now that’s a deep cut

The notion that the VHS tape is like Warrior in the mirror is rediculous. The VHS tapes are clearly edited by the Wyatt Sicks to deliver a message. The Warrior in the mirror was "live" and included other people there live. I have no idea how you could possibly make this comparison.

Can someone inform Sidge that REAL people aren't just mustache twirling villains. They can have sympathetic aspects to their characters, but still be dicks.

@KHWrld999

7 күн бұрын

Yeah fr and I always feel like those make the best villains rather than why are you horrible oh just because you are

It seems so nostalgic to have these storylines gripping every fan, great time for wrestling

Can’t wait for Rhea to come back, I’m looking forward to seeing what she’ll do to Liv 🙂

Also did Sidge not like "Fight Club"?

If Gunther wasn't already seemingly lined up to be the next WHC, I would love for Finn to be the one to dethrone Priest and finally have another oppurtunity to hold a World title belt - and as the potential new head of The Judgement Day 2.0.

Just throwing this out there, they likely keep Sidge on because it results in so many comments.. If y’all really want any chance of him going away, stop commenting about him 🤷🏻‍♂️

@KHWrld999

7 күн бұрын

Yeah but idk what I do hurts or helps them more when I see that he’s on I go to the comments I might respond to some or like them and then I close it and never watch or finish it and I’m pretty sure losing retention hurts them but commenting helps so 🤷

The short version IMO is the Wyatt's are essentially a haunted house. You know it's a work but you are signing up to participate to be scared even though you know it's not real.

Sig your just wrong. You are legit hate watching how is this argument favoring you

“Why isn’t this product catered specifically to MY demographic - that being a late 30s white male with better opinions than anybody!”

When he is talking about hacky and crap. Remember Sidgwick talks about the dinner debonair bit as this all time moment of pro wrestling

Michael Sidgewick has a huge blind spot when it comes to WWE, for everything that he hates about Raw and Smackdown, he never criticizes the thing he likes about every other company. Case in point, The Elite are meant to be funny (They aren't), they are meant to be tough (they are softer than ice cream), Yet he will sit for 30 minutes to debate how crap WWE is because he hates the company

I haven't watched WWE weekly shows for absolutely ages, bar bits here snd there; resorting to watching clips on their KZread channel if something perks my interest. But the Wyatt Sicks is really intriguing to me. The attention to detail, even on their attire is top level imo. When the Fiend arrived the first time, i adored that too.

Could the vid of Bo/Howdy be a supernatural thing but actually created by the character for creepy effect? I mean, Bo's character could be so far gone that he knowingly - or unknowingly perhaps - creates these videos, playing both parts as he suffers from schizophrenia. I think it's possibly unfair to suggest that every creepy segment or lights off moment is supernatural, when the latter part of Taker's career all the stuff was billed as mind games. Horror stuff gets into people's heads.

I’m really confused by your unwillingness to suspend disbelief for the Wyatt Sicks but normal wrestling kayfabe works? I feel like you are just trying to hate on it without giving it a chance to grow…

Love y’all guys but the Wyatt talks always brings out y’all’s bad faith criticism. If you wanna know why all the bad stuff happened during brays time then watch his documentary. It spells it out without saying it out right

Bloodline story’s certainly better than anything AEW has been booking these days Sidge

wrestling IS theatre. the ring, ramp, construction is all the STAGE. wrestling is a UNIQUE theatrical experience but either way it is THEATRE, an these characters exist in a world where genre bends, mends and molds into one another. humans want to center ourselves in each story, but there's more we can explore. when u go to see a play you know everything infront isn't real, but you are invested, you dont ask who turned on or off the lights, who turned on or off the fog--its A PLAY!!! just like wrestling IT'S A PLAY!

I’m super into Carlito going the R Truth route.

Sidge needs to leave this podcast I'm over him. sorry Adam love you and the crew normally but cant keep watching him.

WWE is just incredible at making stars, I have hope that they will be able to heat up the Women's division - especially with all the great talents they have cooking in NXT.

Hey Professor Elite, was it ridiculous when Smeagle was arguing with Gollum in Lord of The Rings? They were both the same character yet we could see each of them when they spoke, there are plenty of good examples of characters with split personalities talking to themselves while we the viewers are able to see them both until the conversation is done, then the camera zooms out or refocuses and you see it was just the one character the whole time.... Fight Club, that entire movie was this, are you going to tell me you didn't enjoy Fight Club? Or that fight club reminded you of Hogan seeing Warrior in the mirror at WCW? For once this is something I feel you're being a bit too eager to complain about due to the ingrained distain for early 90's WWF\late WCW content. 🤷‍♂️

@17:40 that's the point Sidge... Something for everyone why are there so many flavors of crisps? To speak your language!

That is exactly the best point you guys have finally made. You cannot WWE every promotion in the world we’ve seen them try it and we see it fail time and time again. They try to do it with NXTUK and it failed miserably. AEW needs to be AEW and not be WWE light.

Why is Micheal Sidgwick even watching WWE when everything is crap an nonsense. Damn if doent like anything then just dont watch it

Wait this guy cant get over a show but likes wrestling something we know is entertainment and predetermined???

I have a humble collection of football shirts and sometimes when I go out I don’t wanna be seen wearing a shirt I’ve been seen outside in. Sidge and this Netherlands shirt put all these worries to rest tho😂 I mean it’s a banging shirt and I’d do the same

Where’s Mic Raphone when you need him?

I really want Lumis to meet sidge, Lumis is 6ft2 230 and not fat like idc wbo you are thats intimidating not even mentioning he looks like a murderer like a lot of the stuff he says absolutely no way hed say it to any of their face theyd eat his dad bod for dinner

@markleewillis9920

7 күн бұрын

Sidgewick is critiquing him as a wrestler don't forget.

@yoljuma4431

7 күн бұрын

@@markleewillis9920 okay but would he do that to his face if he could/does fair enough but he's not gonna say to Dexter you're not scary when he's supposed to be

@markleewillis9920

7 күн бұрын

@@yoljuma4431 it's irrelevant imo. I mean, I think the Undertaker is a dick irl. Am I going to say that to his face? No. Doesn't mean I still don't think it or even that he is one. I hear what you're saying, but I just think if you can't say anything about someone because of fear of being intimidated or confronted by them it's not right. If Lumis stood there and was willing to take criticism for his job, then I agree that someone should be able to say it to their face as they would anywhere else.

@judshuttie70

7 күн бұрын

Strange he can't be scared of Dexter lumis but he will do aew review and act like bucks n jungle jackass are threats, I don't have an issue with anyone who says Wyatt sicks isn't for them, I think that's totally fair it's not for everyone, but the weird way he buried lumis a big unit in great shape whilst creaming in his pants for osprey a guy that's so clearly on steroids to gain weight and as result as massive fat arse, and tell me how hurricane runners actually hurt, if you can't suspend disbelief that Dexter could be dangerous don't put over dweebs in wrestling be consistent that's all I ask.

@markleewillis9920

7 күн бұрын

@@judshuttie70 again, I hear you. But you're being disingenuous now imo. Sidgewick criticises the Bucks as authority figures, and a threat is different from being intimidating. With regards to Ospreay, it's your prerogative if you think he's on steroids. Personally, I don't think anyone would get away with that in this day in age. But comparing Sidgewick's love of Ospreay to his dislike of Dexter is like apples to pears if we're focusing on Sidgewick's criticism of Lumis being intimidating. Sidgewick doesn't think Ospreay is intimidating; he thinks he's skilled in the ring; something he thinks Dexter isn't. The only time I've enjoyed Dexter as a character is in comedic moments; not his wrestling. So I'm with Sidgewick on that. But, aesthetic wise, I'm intrigued about this character and the lore to do with the Wyatt Sicks.

I get where Sidge’s opinion is coming from, the problem is the fact that he wants wrestling to feel as real as possible and the reality is can’t because the logic of it would be like college wrestling. It’s all based on hold and twist and that’s not the spectacle. Sedgwick just doesn’t like the over-the-top stuff and I get it and that’s fine, that’s why he’s there.

@glydoughnut9432

3 күн бұрын

“Real as possible” yet on AEW we have characters like Orange Cassidy 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Sometimes I think sidges issues with wrestling are based on his own inability to suspend disbelief

The dude in the red fútbol jersey is always hating with the garbage coming out of his mouth

@WCSGolf

7 күн бұрын

Are you colour blind ?

Bronn is not going to win Saturday or Sunday whenever it is because Sammy is the only baby face that has a belt right now on raw and I doubt they’re going to sacrifice that

I used to look forward to watching you guys take on wrestling; but lately Sidgwick has become unbearable. Ill take my viewership elsewhere for awhile

@jonoldfield5713

7 күн бұрын

👋👋👋

@danielrogers6928

7 күн бұрын

Bye mate. All the best

Where is the RAW Preview?

Listening to you 3 shred the Wyatt stuff this week is precisely why I didn't want WWE to do this. Your stomping on Bray's grave and tearing Bo down and it's disgusting. Support them or just skip Reviewing it.

I think sidgwick just needs to stop being on wwe content, he obviously dosent like any of it and just has negative remark after negative remarks.

@ricowilliams3696

7 күн бұрын

You mean sidge

@thegazanator

7 күн бұрын

@@ricowilliams3696 I do yeah, oops

Oh, this one is a super throwback. Back in the early 80s in Texas. There was the missing link who was just basically some dude with green face paint and the evil manager dude used him as a weapon to try to take out the good guys. He was listed from parts unknownand he just came into the ring and just beat the living shit out of you. That was scary. They didn’t have spooky lights or anything like that.

It took me a while to remember, but here we go here’s another perfect example, Abadon on AEW. Her whole gimmick is she is some weird, scary chick that you don’t know what her deal is and there’s no smoking mirrors and and weird lights and all that stuff she comes out literally crawling out, spewing blood Out of her mouth and then proceeds to beat the shit out of you because she’s fucking tough and her whole point is to scare the shit out of you. That is scary and I no point in time do they say that oh she’s a zombie no they just call her the undead girl because that’s what she calls herself cause she’s a psychopath, that’s scary wrestling

It’s all fun and games and just basically TV stuff but hopefully the idea is that bow has not mystically transformed into uncle Howdy but the fact that it’s bow and he has chosen this persona to his vengeance. In other terms, he is so emotionally distraught that he created this persona to focus his rage and anger. At least that’s what I think they want to go with this. It’s just like the whole idea of face and the screen franchise. It’s not an unstoppable killer. It’s just some psycho guy who thinks that he can get away with killing people by using a persona

I think I understand where Havlat is trying to go, and Sedgwick is also right on his point as well as far as reality versus what they’re trying to do with the WyattS. The only thing I can come up with right now off the top of my head is Lucha underground. The world that they created for that show was specifically saying this is not the real world and we’re trying to convince you that spooky things are happening in the real world, what they did was they created this weird world and wrestling happens to be in it. It’s just like the old Mexican wrestling movies where they had spooky supernatural stuff happening and the wrestlers had to fight vampires and zombies. To us it’s ridiculous but in the world of the movie it’s real and it’s supposed to be jump scare scary. The problem with doing that with WWE is once you start down the road you cannot break the reality and unfortunately, there’s too many factors involved for them to actually really get away with it.

Let me be the reminder that the whole reason you guys started crapping on WWE was because they were taking wrestlers from other promotions that you liked, and they turned them into the cookie cutter of doing wrestling in WWE and you hated it. So Tony needs to get his shit together and realize that doing wrestling WWE style with his wrestlers won’t work. Let them be the wrestlers that they are.

Cool thing about the world is that the pretentious, self important dude in the left of the screen can voice his 'I'm the smartest person in the room' opinion.....smartest person in a wrestling content podcast.....and I can leave. I choose to not listen to what culture when this dude is onscreen. Freedom!

@PeterCFeeney

7 күн бұрын

And I know no one cares. And if you do, inward look is important

I say don't have Howdy wrestle at all...Keep him at a distance and to turn the tide for his henchmen(women). More like a mystical manager. The others can suffer loses and still be "creepy" and worthy of attention. Howdy/Bo sends his followers to do his dirty work, sometimes they will succeed other times the babyface will triumph. In the end the will still look "cool" and Howdy/Bo will be able to keep some/most of his aura

@gregdelenaspencer4792

7 күн бұрын

And while we are at it, can we just put Zelina and Andrade back together too...(Bring back the managers)

Really it all really comes back down to what I had said earlier in the comments. The scary monster part of wrestling only works when they exist outside the normal existence of wrestling. What I mean by that is it’s a character that’s there for the purpose of only to beat the crap out of the baby face, because they are literally monster who is there to do that they’re not there to win belts there to create deep storylines. They are there as a weapon to use against a baby face and a story. Yet another perfect example Kamala. His whole purpose was to come in and beat the Everling crap out of the baby face because the evil manager dude is trying to get over on the baby face that’s it. Bray was trying to create something different and fun for the audience, and it would’ve worked if they did not have him involved with title stuff that’s where things go wrong. If you have an unstoppable killing machine, you have a B and unstoppable, killing machine and a story.

Great review as always guys

The defenses of the Wyatt 5 are awfully dumb; it's not meant to scare you, it's meant t scare the characters on the show. That's utter nonsense especially since most of the roster acts like they don't exist.. Cole isn't scared but Olympic athlete and wrestler is... got it. WWE brain rot.

The biggest problem with characters like the Wyatt when it comes to being in the arena is that they’re trying to build scary tension and that is really a mood killer. The only way that you can really work with the Wyatt six to scare someone is that they come out of nowhere when you least expect it to scare the crap out of you. That’s why on television seeing it on television doesn’t work. It only really works when you’re in the arena and you’re into it but as a medium, it doesn’t.

Sig you need to stop reviewing WWE your to bias against WWE and pro AEW which imo you should only talk about... You have no idea what your talking about obviously...

Y’all shit on aew but who da fuck made wwe the arbiter of what wrestling is supposed to be?

@glydoughnut9432

3 күн бұрын

Vince did when he bought out all the competition