This is the clearest explanation I have heard for power and action and what to use in different situations fishing for bass. Thanks for sharing!

Great video! As a Rod builder I would like to say this sums up a lot of confusion for people. In the same breathe I would like to introduce to you the most underrated and forgotten action in fishing rods..... Mod-Fast! Moderate-Fast actions give you a sweet spot especially for those looking to get more out of a single rod. This is also a perfect action for spinnerbaits and bladed jigs. The one thing not mentioned is there is no standards and regulations in the Fishing Rod market, so each manufacturer has a different definition of what power/action/lure ratings are. They are close but usually never the same.

@txyakfishing

Ай бұрын

Moderate fast is where it's at for spinner baits and bladed jigs for sure. I also love them for fishing soft plastic swim baits with an underspin. It just feels better, and my hookup ratio is better.

One of the best guidance of how to choose rod I’ve ever watched/read. Plain and simple but completely make sense and super helpful. Thank you for the video!

What ever happened to the days of just grabbing a rod and throwing whatever ever lure you wanted and catching fish? Now they say 15 different rods for 15 different lures 🤦‍♂️

@Hiramsfishschtick

11 ай бұрын

They making it so complex that it confuses me

@kylesmith3211

8 ай бұрын

You can still do that, as long as you know what the middle of the road of everything is.. most anglers just figure out what they like and keep with that.. you gotta remember this guy is a professional bass angler, of course they will go to the extremes to try and maximize their productivity. And fishing tournaments it's beneficial to not spend all your time tying and retying. But your average angler just having fun, you can Definitely just pick a rod you like and stick with it

@nickmetz8436

6 ай бұрын

They’re still here. You just grab a ride from the store feel it, and if it feels nice by regardless of what it says.

@rcVastoLord

5 ай бұрын

That's what u do. I honestly just pick a rod I like the look off. And just fish with it. I do however do pay attention to lure weight. I try to not over do it.

@Langley-Outdoors

5 ай бұрын

Medium light rod, spinning reel and 30lb braid... catch everything

You have one of best informative fishing channels on the tube. Keep posting content like this.

I feel old now but my love of angling keeps me receptive vs stubborn when it comes to solid info and tips. This is solid.

This is an awesome video. I’m a 2 month newbie to the sport and this video has helped me to understand rods better. Thanks

Thank you for clearing this up!!! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard people call the power of a rod, the action and it makes me go crazy! I’m like bro what are you saying????!!!

Glad to see someone finally talking about this. Thanks

Amazing and excellent as always!! Thanks Tyler. Your advice is spot on even here in WARM South Africa.

Very informative and great breakdown. Thanks!

Great info yet again sir... Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours...and the KZread folks as well!

Thanks to our fishing professor for making it simple, appreciate all your advice 🎣🙂

Well done. Good video. One thing you may want to touch on in the future and something that drives me nuts is how rod companies all come up with their own idea of what certain actions/powers should be. There is no standard in the industry. Even within a single company it can be difficult across different lines of rods that that company makes. You really have to do your research when looking for that perfect rod for a particular technique. Anyways, I always enjoy watching your informative content. Keep up the good work.

@jonathanlapointe6262

Жыл бұрын

I agree, it kills me when there are no standardized weights and measures. I goes for clothing as well. I wear size 15 shoe but I can range from 13 to a 16 depending on the manufacturer. Same as pants 32/36 doesn't mean 32 inches around. In fact these numbers mean, NOTHING!!! It's time to start a petition to standardize weights and measures. We can start by not holding out as the only non 3rd world country in the world to not use the metric system! Sorry, it gets me worked up every time🤬

The best explanation I have ever heard on rods. Thanks

I would say that a medium heavy, too heavy fast action or moderate fast in at least a 7' rod to a 7' 3'' or 6'' will allow you to still land some monster fish and still be able to fish multiple styles from top water, jig, crank, swimming, spinner, and still be able to do that finesse fishing for that lazy fish.

I understand so much better appreciate all the information that you give us continue the fabulous work

Now that was very educational in a way i understood.. Good job Tyler!!

Nice job very interesting and informative you always make it understandable 👊

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Love the info and clarifications.

Excellent explanation, what is most frustrating and why we miss this is the rod mftrs.are not consistent from one make to another. In my experience very few put the action type on the rod and only the power.

Thanks for all your great tips.

Great instructional video!! A lot of good information to learn from. I picked up a few things myself. Thanks for sharing really enjoy your channel!! Happy Thanksgiving!!!!🦃Stay Safe & God Bless!!

There should be a universal standardization that all rod makers must use to label their rod specifics. I have even seen that some rod manufacturers are confused with power/action. Their labels were all jacked up. Thanks for the video.

Happy Thanksgiving Tyler, and thanks for the great vids we appreciate you.

Love this video haven’t seen any other channel talk about this in the recent years and it needs to be bought back up lol even as a refresher course definitely love this video bro also can you talk more about tournament angling maybe the co angler stand point I don’t see a lot of channels talking about co angling tips and tricks or at least not any new ones

Another great and informative video ! People need to remember that there is no industry standard for power and action . One brands mh is another’s heavy or medium.

I generally use an ultralight moderate action rod for my inshore fishing. I use 1/8 ounce to 1/4 ounce artificial lures. Never had a problem with any fish including up to 30” reds.

You guys rock. Bring us on your vacation with spots to go. Awesome

Happy thanksgiving bud.Would like to hear how you go about choosing the length of your rods and why.

Great stuff Tyler and that really helps clarify the differences between "power" and "action" of the rods, thanks very much and Happy Thanksgiving to you and family.

My favorite rod I use is a 6'6" Ultra-light Fast Action. So much fun fighting even small stuff.

@thegutdiver

10 ай бұрын

can you explain why? kinda newish to fishing like i know how and different rigs and what not but I don’t know much about rod types. i currently have a penn pursuit 3 4k on a 7’ medium but I don’t feel it casts far enough. im thinking of going 7’ medium light fast or moderate action.

@chuck.reichert83

10 ай бұрын

@@thegutdiver what test line are you running? Is the memory out of the line? What weight lure?

@thegutdiver

10 ай бұрын

@@chuck.reichert83 30 lb braid, might drop down to 20. primarily throw 1/8 ounce bullet weights on Texas rigged senkos or 1/4-3/8 ounce jigs on paddle tails. only lures I throw are 1/4 and 9/16 ounce yozuri 3DS Ayus. oh and half ounce to 3/4 ounce spoons

@thegutdiver

10 ай бұрын

@@chuck.reichert83 i fish salt water with the same rod tho, so I don’t want anything too light incase I hit the pier or bridges. looking for an all around middle ground for both, cuz having hella combos is dumb to me, already have like 6 combos n really only use 3

@chuck.reichert83

10 ай бұрын

@thegutdiver different tools for different jobs. Using a sledgehammer to frame a house is exhausting, and Using a framing hammer to pin electrical connections is useless. Different tools.

Good video Tyler this always drives me crazy lol I try to be a student of the game I make sure my rods are exactly what I need

This helped me rate the rods I find when I’m out at garage sales and other places. Not all rods are marked.

A small hint: if there is much vibration (like in the case of spinnerbaits) then it is worth to pick a a moderate-fast or moderate action rod instead of the fast one, no matter the hook type

i remember back in the day that i didn't know rods had action and power. it's still new to me and trying to grasp it. I just bought a rod and that was that. I don't specifically bass fish. If I'm catching bass, I'm usually catching walleye too. I live right on French creek in Pennsylvania. I mostly trout fish in the tribs feeding French creek. The last rod i bought is 9'6" and states it's a moderate fast action and medium light power.I'm trying to make sense of it. I just know that I have no problem landing big trout in lake Erie at a high percentage.

Jättebra förklarat ( swedish) very well explained !

Sup Tyler, makes sense when told intellectually, not other channels saying what have to buy... Happy Thanksgiving to you and family, tyvm tc

Way back when there was no action rating on a rod. I remember my old Falcons and All Stars were just labeled with power.

@brettwillbornsr.8437

Жыл бұрын

Still using my Falcons lowriders. Over 20yrs old !!! And still crossing up the eyes on those Hydrilla Gorilla's!

@stephensmith9934

Жыл бұрын

@@brettwillbornsr.8437 I still have some original Falcon Originals I bought in the mid 90’s. Compared to today’s rods they feel like lead but still good.

@richerwin6397

Жыл бұрын

Way back when (Late 1970's to early 80's) the rods we used were in the 5 to 5 1/2 foot range for baitcasters, and 6 to 6 1/2 footers for spinning. Those rods were too short to incorporate variations in wall thickness and shaft diameter to create a variety of actions.

@franksancimino1297

Жыл бұрын

@@richerwin6397 remember? Pool sticks 1970's think how stupid this was 10lb. Stren 5 1/2ft. Pool stick 1/2 oz balsa Rapala 10oz K Matt Diawa Millionaire BAITCASTER.....joke .Eckard drugs South end sp8nning combo lol....Now 45 casting 16 spinning. And I cought way more Bass on the70's.on the old junk. They have destroyed 80% of my state (Florida) On TV they fish the same 10 lakes You won't see them on all that's been filled in or destroyed by housing development s. Enjoyed your comment . Tyler has great vids but 2% feedback sadley

@NaahilNafiz-yz4xo

2 ай бұрын

Mine was labelled with powercat 😅😅

Ive lost some big bass not having the right rod , line set up good video looking at going with tatula dawiwa mh one piece for senko fish no weight on the line. Spinng combo

I just started and have 4 rods for everything I need so far. Got the all different power and action for 1/16 to 3 oz maximum lure or swim baits reel 6.1 to 7.4 ger need faster one sometimes. I was only going to get two but seen your video on rods so I got 4 rods medium light to medium heavy works great 👍🏼

Great info. I have also found that different rod manufacturers will have different ideas of what fast and moderate fast action means. You really have to find the rod that feels best to you.

Lack of industry standard confuses this issue. For instance one major manufacturer has rods that are typically slower and softer than those of their competitors in the same action and power.

Working in a tackle shop for years I feel like this was something I'd have to explain this at least 4 times a week. Power is simple, its the amount of weight that it takes to bend the rod and that can be partly determined by lure weight but also for fisheries where long back and forth fights are normal the power is important with regard to the pressure the bend of the rod puts on getting the fish's head up. This is even more important where you aren't casting or worrying about the ability to cast a certain weight of lure. The percentage of the rod that bends is the action as described, one part of the idea of different sensitivity is that the faster action will leave more of the rod straight and is effectively making a longer lever which means you'll feel the hits, bottom type, lure performance and even the way a fish is hooked or is fighting more easily for the same amount of force imparted.

Hey I watch your videos pretty frequently and I just picked up a new lure which is a big 7 inch swim bait. Would you mind making a video on how to use hard plastic swim baits or at least touching on it in another video?

LOVE this content...so fascinating! Meanwhile, I'm fishing mostly with a Zebco 33 Tactical combo with 10 lb. mono...lol. Clicking all the links bud!

Nice video Tyler. Sterling Gray Outfitters (custom rod builders) would like to invite you to collaborate on a more in depth video, involving what goes into building a technique specific rod.

Happy Thanksgiving bro. Hope you have a great day

thank you for the video is answered a lot of questions for me now myself realizing I need more rods and reels I now understand why I lose a fish catch a fish lose a fish catch a fish. It would be cool to do a followup video on length of rod why that's important. I put a 4lbs largemouth in my kayak and when I laid him in the boat he flopped a couple times while grabbing him the hook came out and he flopped in the water. I think it has a lot to do with my rod because a properly set hook I think it wouldn't have mattered how much he flopped around and another video just talking about line type and diameter and why its better depending on your conditions what to use

@ericl2969

Жыл бұрын

It is most likely that you lost that fish due to bad luck and not due to your choice of rod. There are many places in a bass's mouth that are quite delicate, so that the hook ends up tearing a hole which is too large for the hook to remain "stuck". In that case, the only thing that will ensure that the hook stays engaged is tension in the line. When the line is slack while the fish is laying in the boat as you described, a hook that has torn a large hole in the tissue of the fish's mouth can come loose very easily. A slower (softer) rod action will make it less likely to lose a fish hooked in that manner during the fight, but it won't make any difference at all once the fish is laying in your kayak. A lot of times you can spot this problem while the fish is still in the water and take extra precautions, but other times there's no way to know until that moment when the fish shakes loose and gets away.

What lures would you recommend for a Medium Power Xtra fast action baitcasting rod? Thanks for what you do and Happy Thanksgiving!

or better yet....just get a good quality middle of the road rod in both power and action and don't worry about any of this....or better better yet, ignore all this noise and just go fish with you have.

@NineteenEighty8

13 күн бұрын

Exactly. Unless you catching big ass catfish, just get a medium-heavy then youre set. You can even catch cats with medium-heavy. They are over complicating fishing on purpose.

In England the power was called the Test Curve. The lb or part to bend the tip 90 degrees. You can also gauge the taper buy wherevit bends.

Love the content

What rod action is best for a medium power all-round setup for Beginners? Usage: Mostly shore casting and little bit boat fishing.

I HOPE you are HAVING a GOOD thanksGIVING

You were going strong until 5:50.

Excellent video very informative....🇬🇧👍

The old Allstar, Loomis and Fiber Star Composites used a number system to designate power. Basicly from 1 to 10.. 10 being the heaviest ( actually " unlimited" is the heaviest) models like 1266 = 126 inches, 6 power. Action and power are created by taper and material layup of blank. Terms like slow, moderate and fast to determine action is only a way to describe a bend but there is NO standard so company A's fast action might not be like company B's fast action. That said, there are many variables that make a fishing rod or golf shaft do what it does. Many influences along the design to make it do what it does when pressure is put on it.

You forgot to mention that "slow action rods" usually cast farther, but aren't usually as acurrate. It's why surf rods are usually slow action & up to moderate action. Tip: ugly stik's do NOT have "Power Ratings" Ever. They only usualy ever have "action ratings".

Ya right now i set up a st.croix mojo bass 7'1 MH fast action on a ABU revo LP that throws 7.48 baits

I finally feel comfortable talking about my rod! Happy Thanksgiving!

Thank you son you really explained it. And I actually understood it. 💯

What weights for what action and what about hook size? Bigger hook more power?

good video. don't for get to factor in power rating also based on how you want to fight the fish, you have to pull though cover like frogging, you want a heavier rod. also the sensitivity isn't as big as a factor now like it was 10 plus years ago, when comparing extra fast vs moderate rods with most rods being graphite now and super sensitive, this is what caused everyone years ago to jump on the extra fast band wagon, but in the last few years people are starting to realize that a fast or moderate fast action has same sensitivity with modern rods materials and construction, and better fish hook up/ landing ratios if you only have a couple rods you can always cheat action rating a little bit by using a bit of a lighter rod if you already have one. where lure weight is at top end of the rod spec. allowing the rod to flex more. say for a crank bait if all your rods are fast action. There's a big thing about actions that wasn't mentioned here, one thing that makes extra fast actions sucks, is if the fish jumps a lot, you only have a foot of rod loaded up, so its much easier to end up with a slack line and loose the fish when he jumps or when trying to retrieve the fish at the boat or shore when you bend down. a mod or fast or mod fast, gives you twice as much rod bent over so a lot more room for error to help you keep line tight when fist jumps or you are collecting the fish when bent over.

Great video... Thanks.

Great video

Great video. But i am still not sure if moderat and medium action is the same thing

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

What do you think of a Shimano Expride medium/heavy rod, on a Stella fk 4000 reel with 15lb braid?

Ty, are you using moderate as the same as medium?

Thank god you said this… cause I hear people say it all the time, and it kisses me off. I’ll hear it’s a heavy action rod… and I’m like wtf is the action… moderate, fast, x-fast?!

What would be the best power and action for a bfs reel?

I just got a G.loomis 965 Med/heavy swimbait rod and paired it with a Shimano Scorpion 300 MD will that be decent for throwing swim baits?

Med hvy fast & med. Moderate are the only two u need!

@fishcake.1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for clearing that up even with the video I was lost😂 I’m just trying to see if my mhf 7’0 rod would be good on a pier

Happy Thanksgiving 🦃

Happy Thanksgiving to all!

So how do you break down the mega bass rods?

I used to get some heavy action from the bars back in the day... On that note, what kind of rod should I use for trolling for pike and/or bass?

So am I right in thinking the med heavy mod action rod I just got should be for chatter baits and crank baits mostly? This vid came a right time I got a black Friday deal now wondering what to throw on this particular rod

@buckeye830

Жыл бұрын

According to what he said, yep.

So I bought a 7’3 medium heavy fast action rod but want to know what reel to get that is good. Line weight 10-30?

I have some ( older ) medium light class glass rods that are parabolic taper . I guess you can also call it slow action ? A regular action could be a composite rod ( crankbait , treble hooks ), Not really a parabolic taper but a progressive taper . Building up from the top trough out the blank. I wonder if you can make a regular action from only carbon or will it always be a blend if you want a bend ? Also the type of resin and the amount used will play a part. There seem to be a lot of different weaves of carbon type material & also different grades based on thickness & quality ( lightness ). There are so many parameters playing when a rod is made and if you believe all the rod companies , that each of them has several type of blanks that they developed them self. That leaves a lot of combinations only for the blanks. The outcome simply means that a medium class rod regular action from one company can never be the same as from another company , unless they do it all the same . It is so confusing...haha

@Psykout

Жыл бұрын

Each brand usually has a common theme though. Daiwa usually have a faster tip, St Croix is a little stiffer, just takes time messing with all their rods to get a feel for it. Go to a pro shop on a slow afternoon. Play with a ton of rods and chat up one of the staff and you'll learn a lot.

I own the David Fritts glass rod it's 1991 glàss. Have had all butter the blank replaced due to father time. Wifie caught a 9+ Largemouth on it for action saved her this Bass thought she was a Tarpon !...released asap Greatest fight from a Bass I ever witnessed.Had micro guides put on blank ....nice n light amazing difference. Great vid.I tell weekeners Power = bend from lure weight Action bend from fish weight in rods ;-Not scientific but it gets um on the right page. Ever se the 1970 rod specs on blanks? Joke. The worst part of action /power is every co. Is in their own world. I own MH that are 100% Meds.

@franksancimino1297

Жыл бұрын

Tyler not big on responding. That's about turn off...just saying.

What’s a best rod to throw as far as you can?

Tyler thank you for the content. Could you address what’s lost in a 1 piece versus a 2 piece rod . I like building my own and just don’t have the space to do 1 piece. Thanks

@mikewest712

Жыл бұрын

2 piece is heavier,less sensitive, doesn't cast as far,, balance can be off with a 2 piece. If you absolutely have to use a 2 piece it works great. But a 1 piece will always perform better. IMHO

@jonnicholas8028

Жыл бұрын

@Mike West thank you Mike someday I hope I have the space and jig to handle 1 piece

Question from a guy who’s just getting into it. I bought a rod that’s for 1/4 - 5/8 lures. Can I throw lures that are 1/8 oz, or at least 1/8 oz jig heads plus a swim bait? I’m thinking the total weight would make it okay and in the range, correct? Or should I just buy 1/4 heads and stay in that area? Same thing would apply to the higher end, I’m assuming, correct? I’d probably not want to go higher than the 1/2 oz with something on it bc that would send the lure past its top weight of 5/8, right? Lol. I’m I over thinking this, or am I on the right track? Thanks in advance. I’d just like to be clear before purchasing some new tackle/lures. 😁

I wish you would have shown the label on the rod as you explained the types of rods to help understand what you were talking about.

Finally! Someone who knows the difference!

Spinning talk** Some people say that extra fast action doesn't hood the fish well and you missing many fish. Do you agree with that? I have the Oceanic Spider 2 10g - 50g and it's a great vlf rod also works lures very well.

I wish u could elaborate on The elusive, medium light, fast action rod! and what it's actually good for?

The range is extensive. It depends on what you want to catch and how much challenge you want. I played with ultra lights, lights, medium light and medium heavy for over a few decades. Your fishing art and equipment combination plays the role. With proper setup and depending on your skill level and ability to manage your drag and choosing line weightage all comes into play. So, it depends on how wide a range you have at home and decide on what setup you are gaming that day. Action: such as fast and regular/moderate action is the range most people prefer. However, I do get on ex fast rods at times… put it this way; I had some successful mad times: 2-6lb regular action spinning rod with 4lb line landed 20lb fat groupers. Sometimes, it is how light you can get with your equipment to hit the bit ones. You need to be lucky with the fishing terrain/space and skillful enough to handle the “fragile” set up. This is extreme fun! We call this madness! Give the fishes a chance to test us on lighter equipment. That’s the challenge. I would laugh at anglers for using heavy equipment on certain terrains where most are perches! Just tell him go to the supermarket to buy a fish😅. Stop wasting money on equipment and time by wanking fishes out of the water. Fishing is an art. A challenge and a fight where anglers need to provide them fishes a chance to battle our equipment and skill. That is fishing!

In my 50 years of buying bass rods,,not once have I heard anyone say they've got it are wanting a "moderate action rod" those words simply aren't usé among the bass fishermen,,we either buy a light, medium or heavy action rod..

With the explanation of the amount of weight to bend the rod, what weight is the standard for “Heavy” power?

@ericl2969

Жыл бұрын

The short answer is that there is no standard. Here are some details about that. Surely there are ways that the manufacturers measure how much line tension it takes to put a certain amount of bend into a rod (and the angle of pull relative to the tangent of the rod's curve at the tip of the rod would need to be defined as well), but this information would be completely useless to fishermen. That's why power of a particular rod is described according to the ideal range of weights which can be cast. But even that isn't the final answer because it will be different for rods that are used for different kinds of fishing. For example, I have a few general-purpose bait-casting rods that are "medium-heavy" and a musky rod that's the same brand which is also "medium-heavy", and yet the musky rod is much stiffer and is rated to cast lures that are three times heavier. The thing that matters when choosing the power rating that you need, is NOT what the power rating is labeled as, but instead, that it is right for the weights of lures (or bait rigs) that you'll be casting (and as others here have pointed out, sometimes being able to pull a fish out of heavy cover requires you to use a rod with a power rating that is "too heavy" to be ideal for casting the lures you are using. Also, when choosing the power rating for trolling rods, the lure weight is not even a factor).

Good info, but I'll stay with my fast power heavy action rod

Lol I fell like this is a bit nitpicky, though valid for sure

And all the while a world record largemouth was caught on gear we'd consider "all wrong" by today's standards...

So if you can't buy a lot of rods, what would be the happy medium? I don't have the money to buy moderate & fast action rods with various power so should I go with something like a medium heavy fast and a medium power moderate?

@longpointfishmaster947

Жыл бұрын

if you have to buy 2 or 3 rods, first would be a 6,6" - 7ft medium fast or medium moderate fast spinning this covers all smaller lures, cranks jerks, drop shots, ned rigs, inline spiners, smaller plastics. 2nd 7,2" -7,6" medium heavy fast/ bait caster (this can cover all your big single hooks, plastics, swimbaits, senkos, buzz baits, chatter baits, buz,baits, big spinners, spinner bait, frogs

Fantastic information, cannot thank you enough for sharing your knowledge.

I don't understand why I see professionals all the time say "it has a super fast tip look how much it bends and how soft it is". As a tackle junkie, statements like that just confused me. Because what they are describing isn't what there's actually verbally thing correctly

So I think the confusion you hear is from older anglers when the industry only used “action” as a description. If you look at rods from the 80s and 90s that was the industry standard because that’s all the consumer was given or wanted (ultra light,light, medium, etc.). The action was the word used to describe what we call power today (I still find myself doing it). Fast forward to the 2000s and we started to see changes to what you are talking about. Power and action as two separate descriptions and two separate meanings. No idea of what that was driven by; the industry to help anglers, driven by anglers and the industry complied, or just a marketing tactic. Either way, I think we all agree the degree of action and power options these days is nice to have.

So if I’m using a 2-1/2 in 1/8 oz jerk bait what is a good recommendation