I Have Built a Monstrosity

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This is a SuperMac SuperView, a weird eGPU from 1992 that works over... SCSI?!
Let's see what kind of fun we can have with it.
VIDEO LINKS:
🍎 Great thread on 68kMLA about this thing: tinkerdifferent.com/threads/p...
🍎 Drivers: macintoshgarden.org/apps/supe...
🍎 Article about this thing from back in the day: tidbits.com/1992/07/20/superv...
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  • @SalemTechsperts
    @SalemTechspertsАй бұрын

    The Greatest Monstrosity That's Ever Lived

  • @FeTetra

    @FeTetra

    Ай бұрын

    can i be The Greatest Technician That's Ever Lived

  • @TJDunaway

    @TJDunaway

    Ай бұрын

    The Greatest Crossover That's Ever Lived!

  • @TJDunaway

    @TJDunaway

    Ай бұрын

    Always a cool surprise to see you out in other comments sections Mr. TGTTEL

  • @enestekin2

    @enestekin2

    Ай бұрын

    i didn't know racoons liked retro computers

  • @nmac101

    @nmac101

    Ай бұрын

    didnt expect to see you here lol

  • @esseferio
    @esseferioАй бұрын

    The "Why? Because I can!" approach at its finest! Nice to see the return of the beloved Cursed Mac :)

  • @Pentium4Proot
    @Pentium4ProotАй бұрын

    I, as an idiot, read the title as "i built a monastery" Why is my brain like this.

  • @3rdalbum

    @3rdalbum

    Ай бұрын

    Too many hot cross buns?

  • @AgentAsteriski

    @AgentAsteriski

    Ай бұрын

    (Monty Python monks chanting) Pie Iesu Domine... (Mac bonk) Dona eis requiem... (Mac bonk)

  • @JohnVella1968

    @JohnVella1968

    Ай бұрын

    I don't know you, but in my opinion, anybody who misreads monstrosity as monastery is brilliant! 😁😮

  • @johnpetruna8888

    @johnpetruna8888

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@AgentAsteriski That's genius-level stuff right there. 😂

  • @lboston4660

    @lboston4660

    Ай бұрын

    Feels. Last night I read `cannibalism` as `cannabis`. You can imagine how that one went ;_;

  • @BrianJones-wk8cx
    @BrianJones-wk8cxАй бұрын

    What you’ve done here is BRILLIANCE.-Cursed Mac, 65scribe, and a portable television all in one video-BRILLIANCE.

  • @VA3WFT
    @VA3WFTАй бұрын

    That's a nice 90's TV show hacker setup.

  • @LostieTrekieTechie
    @LostieTrekieTechieАй бұрын

    Sounds like the "USB to VGA" adapters we had in the 00's

  • @francoism1926
    @francoism1926Ай бұрын

    In the Monitors control panel you can drag the menu bar to the second monitor to make it the principal monitor. So you can have your apps and games start directly on this monitor even if they don’t have a monitor selection screen

  • @francoism1926

    @francoism1926

    Ай бұрын

    To be clear: it’s the tiny menu bar inside the little display geometry representation inside the Monitors control panel window

  • @lhpl

    @lhpl

    Ай бұрын

    Lovely to read this- I used Macs as a student from 1989 on, and as the sysadmin of the department full time 1995-2000. We had nearly any type of Mac, and all kinds of equipment for them. Video editing with Powermac 7100/70 (and a big external box, can't recall the brand), in 1996! My-our AWS 95 had 4 or 8 GB total for 100+ student AppleShare home folders, _disk space_ of course. It boggles the mind to think about this today! Had so much fun back then, when the Mac was years ahead of anything else...

  • @foxfireglow109
    @foxfireglow109Ай бұрын

    I remember my grade school had one of these in the computer lab hooked up to a large TV so we could see the teacher demonstrate things!

  • @haskellelephant
    @haskellelephantАй бұрын

    Now that the "cursed Mac" is upgraded to the max and all fixed up, is it the "blessed Mac"?

  • @corbinq27
    @corbinq27Ай бұрын

    if someone wants to reverse engineer this I would buy the heck out of it (oh! and LOVE the 65scribe reference!)

  • @ewanuno

    @ewanuno

    Ай бұрын

    there's been work on getting this emulated in PISCSI.... so you actually get an hdmi display

  • @MaxOakland
    @MaxOaklandАй бұрын

    0:15 You just need a USB-C to SCSI adapter

  • @jessihawkins9116

    @jessihawkins9116

    Ай бұрын

    I found mine on temu

  • @kenfagerdotcom
    @kenfagerdotcomАй бұрын

    I have been scouring the internet for obscure hardware for over 25 years and it is amazing that there are still hidden gems out there. A SCSI external video device? WHAAAAAAAT?

  • @ericwazhung
    @ericwazhungАй бұрын

    YES!!! This was epic! Unrelated: The SE30's screen is hooked up to a grayscale addon card? Does that mean the original b/w GPU is still on the mobo, just disabled? Could an empty classic with just a picture-tube be used as a 3rd B/W-only display?

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082Ай бұрын

    Cursed hydra setup looks like something straight out of an 80's cyberpunk movie. I love it. Does it work for the IIGS? I... doubt it but.... I kinda feel obligated to ask.

  • @colmiga
    @colmigaАй бұрын

    Reminded me of a US Robotics modem in design. SCSI is cool though how it allowed other devices other than hard drives and CD-ROM's. There were Ethernet adapters too but also not as common.

  • @madvillainelle4009
    @madvillainelle4009Ай бұрын

    Thanks for the slice of perfectly normal computing to start the day! Delicious!

  • @john_ace
    @john_aceАй бұрын

    I once owned the "Outbound Outrigger" monochrome SCSI portrait monitor. It it had its own 512Kb video memory, 68000 CPU at 20MHz and 640 by 872 pixels resolution. It was a bit slow and very limiting in OS choice.

  • @jaimeduncan6167
    @jaimeduncan6167Ай бұрын

    The Flex casually trowing an Eizo monitor.

  • @WizardClipAudio
    @WizardClipAudioАй бұрын

    No shame. This is exactly the sort of approach I take to retro-computing too. There’s two main camps. One is traditional purists,.. the other is,… more about the art of combining new hardware and features and pushing souped up vintage systems to do things they previously couldn’t, or was practically, or financially unfeasible, to do, in the past. It’s the same with vintage automobiles. One can be in one or both camps, or anything in between. I think the threshold from being a souped up vintage computer, to being a different system or machine, entirely, is when you take the original or reasonably equivalent motherboard, and system buss out of the equation of its totality. Everything else, is generally up to the individual’s discretion or whims. ❤

  • @PunkTiger
    @PunkTigerАй бұрын

    "I have built a monstrosity!" So, just another Saturday for you, then?

  • @ChristianStout
    @ChristianStoutАй бұрын

    Being able to add a color display to my monochrome computer back in 1991 would have absulutely blown my mind.

  • @AndrewErwin73
    @AndrewErwin73Ай бұрын

    "...but I have an even better, more hilarious idea!" have to say, I love it when a plan starts off like that...

  • @martyp2138
    @martyp2138Ай бұрын

    65scribe reference was top notch. 🤣

  • @wongles

    @wongles

    Ай бұрын

    It doesn't do anything?

  • @IchRockeInDerDisco
    @IchRockeInDerDiscoАй бұрын

    I like how it's like the OG dongle to compensate for the lack of IO in apple laptops ...

  • @amirpourghoureiyan1637

    @amirpourghoureiyan1637

    Ай бұрын

    some things never change ay?

  • @3rdalbum
    @3rdalbumАй бұрын

    0:17 I *love* this reference to 65scribe

  • @JaredConnell

    @JaredConnell

    Ай бұрын

    Damn! 😂

  • @ajmoo

    @ajmoo

    Ай бұрын

    Doesnndonnyythnng? I lost it ❤😂

  • @kasimirdenhertog3516

    @kasimirdenhertog3516

    Ай бұрын

    0:14 rather

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643Ай бұрын

    SuperMac was quite the company back in the day. I remember buying a SuperMac NuBus video card new for my IIci in 1990.

  • @MichaelAStanhope
    @MichaelAStanhopeАй бұрын

    oh. my. god. becky! look at that screen! 🤣

  • @minty_Joe

    @minty_Joe

    Ай бұрын

    It is SO big! 🤣

  • @ShinzouKatsune

    @ShinzouKatsune

    25 күн бұрын

    Baby. Got. MAC!

  • @680x0
    @680x0Ай бұрын

    The more chaotic and random shenanigans are my favorites!

  • @spazzman90
    @spazzman90Ай бұрын

    Ahhh, takes me back to the pains of the early 90's and trying to figure out why I couldn't display my PC on my 27" tv and vice versa. They're both CRTs, right? lol.

  • @johnpetruna8888
    @johnpetruna8888Ай бұрын

    "This would be an affront to everything we hold dear . . . . "Okay. Let's get started!" 😂

  • @MWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWWWMMMWMWMWMMWM
    @MWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWWWMMMWMWMWMMWMАй бұрын

    "Does this do anything" cracked me up.

  • @malibugrove
    @malibugroveАй бұрын

    In 1991 I had a Mac SE/30 connected to both a Radius Pivot Display and a Sony 16 inch Trinitron, to produce MacroMind Director (before Macomedia) videos for interactive police training courses.

  • @Astfgl
    @AstfglАй бұрын

    Yay! The cursed SE/30 returns, to become even more cursed than ever!

  • @FloppydriveMaestro
    @FloppydriveMaestroАй бұрын

    imagine having this set up back in the day. you would have been the envy of all nerds

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124Ай бұрын

    This is what 90s and early 2000s TV shows and films think hacking looks like.

  • @Raletia

    @Raletia

    Ай бұрын

    By the original intent this is exactly what hacking is hah, lol, making things do stuff they were never intended for, or even thought possible.

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pzАй бұрын

    Cursed Mac be like "Mooore Power!!"

  • @Drucklufttroete
    @DrucklufttroeteАй бұрын

    Normal composite monitors can't sync to a signal with VGA timings, but if you connect the composite output to the Y input of a TV with YPbPr, it might work. You could also try plugging it into something designed for one of the "HD composite" surveillance cameras that Cathode Ray Dude made a video about.

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Ай бұрын

    I came here to say the same. Plug that RCA output into the component video input of an EDTV/HDTV.

  • @Matt-oq4jq
    @Matt-oq4jqАй бұрын

    I can't believe I got to see this thing in action! Was great chit-chatting with you for a minute outside of Consigment yesterday, you fulfilled my KZreadr quotient for VCF east.

  • @NdxtremePro
    @NdxtremeProАй бұрын

    Now we know we need someone to make a PiVideo SCSI adapter that we never knew we needed or wanted. And here I was thinking making a Pi into a PCI/-X/AGP Video/other adapter for PPC Macs was an insane idea.

  • @seanwieland9763

    @seanwieland9763

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly what I said! We need open-source hardware SCSI e-GPUs now!

  • @ewanuno

    @ewanuno

    Ай бұрын

    This already pretty much exists in rascsi

  • @NdxtremePro

    @NdxtremePro

    Ай бұрын

    @@ewanuno Very cool, now I guess I can wish for using the Pi as a PCI/AGP card in my Power Mac G4 MDD now.

  • @burts06
    @burts06Ай бұрын

    Me : I have one screen Action Retro : I got three screens. Totally Normal!

  • @edcdad1124
    @edcdad1124Ай бұрын

    See new action retro while on vacation stops everything to watch

  • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    Ай бұрын

    I would love seeing him manage to jerry rig a rtx 4090 into that scsi egpu enclosure🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nickpalance3622
    @nickpalance3622Ай бұрын

    I was at VCF East today (Saturday) and yesterday. I will be there tomorrow (Sunday and be on the lookout for you). I schlepped to where Usagi Dave was supposed to be to find a sign saying he’d be there on Sunday. I was just ping ponging all over. As said on The Office: my dogs are barking!

  • @dwarftoad
    @dwarftoadАй бұрын

    So used to SCSI as just a storage device interface, it blew my mind to see it used for video.

  • @absalomdraconis

    @absalomdraconis

    Ай бұрын

    You can hang all sorts of things off SCSI, like sound cards, and _other_ computers. And by extension, you can hang all sorts of things off any other interconnect that properly supports SCSI protocol. Like a soundcard over IDE.

  • @xerzy
    @xerzyАй бұрын

    this video is just making me wish Apple had kept the compact Mac line alive for a bit longer... imagine a PowerPC Takky with video output, all plug and play... could have been a legit work setup at an affordable price

  • @retropuffer2986
    @retropuffer2986Ай бұрын

    IIRC scsi video card existed as far back as the 80s. Too ahead of it's time!

  • @cathrynm
    @cathrynmАй бұрын

    What you need is a 1Ghz+ eMac. Actually has decent 3D games, competitive with DOS at the time, and you can get MacOS9 on it, which just runs brilliantly.

  • @nonenowherebye
    @nonenowherebyeАй бұрын

    If you think that's weird, there were entire monitors that connected via SCSI. I remember reading reviews of them in MacWorld and/or MacUser.

  • @hayder0687
    @hayder0687Ай бұрын

    this makes the cursed mac look even more cursed and im absolutely all for it

  • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    @SaraMorgan-ym6ue

    Ай бұрын

    imagine building a new mac classic like that one with all ne parts today😨😨

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeoАй бұрын

    This was really interesting. I didn't know there were eGPU solutions that early on. Love the small camping TV too. It's just so cute :D

  • @crestdazoltral7705
    @crestdazoltral7705Ай бұрын

    Have you tried to hook it up to a Quadra to check how much difference the I/O subsystem, memory bandwidth, etc. makes when pushing drawing commands and bitmaps through the SCSI bus into the old TMS34010? How did they even glue that chip onto a SCSI bus?

  • @absalomdraconis

    @absalomdraconis

    Ай бұрын

    The SCSI bus supports a very wide variety of thongs...

  • @temetka
    @temetkaАй бұрын

    That EIZO screen is just gorgeous.❤

  • @JVHShack
    @JVHShackАй бұрын

    The Cursed Mac is very impressive, especially in person! I just wish there were more of the SuperMac EGPUs out there or there was a way to clone one for more enthusiasts to enjoy it.

  • @PhAyzoN
    @PhAyzoNАй бұрын

    Wild to have seen this in person before coming home to watch the video. Shame about Wolf3D not working right, but good to know it wasn't just me failing to use a computer properly ("properly") at the show!

  • @jacobmckenna8661
    @jacobmckenna8661Ай бұрын

    It's not a monstrosity, it's a masterpiece!

  • @KzintiCV
    @KzintiCVАй бұрын

    The Outrun background on the flickering TV screen is probably a "retro aesthetics" peak.

  • @Kyle-xv5kv
    @Kyle-xv5kvАй бұрын

    A close up of that tiny tv with that wallpaper on it, would itself make an amazing wallpaper.

  • @bradlaue7433
    @bradlaue7433Ай бұрын

    I had an Aura ScuzzyGraph II which I has the same GPU. At the time we didn't have a lot of money so paying $700 for it and another $400 for a VGA monitor was a big ask. But I saved up so my Macintosh SE could get a second display - loved it. An interesting feature of QuickDraw is that it has 8 built in colors that the device will actually let you output even if you have a non-color QuickDraw Mac. With sufficient dithering you could actually (sort of) view color images too. I loved that thing, still have it. Wonder if all the capacitors are blown out...

  • @stevencarlson5422
    @stevencarlson5422Ай бұрын

    love it !!!!! this is so cool, would've liked to see you hook that up to that PowerBook though

  • @TyTytheCat2004
    @TyTytheCat2004Ай бұрын

    I wonder if a vintage Windows PC could make heads or tails of it over SCSI.

  • @selzzaW
    @selzzaWАй бұрын

    "I don't care because this is epic"- words to live by lol

  • @monkeyman767
    @monkeyman767Ай бұрын

    As much as i love the translucent case on the Cursed Mac, I do miss the black case sometimes

  • @NickLetsom
    @NickLetsomАй бұрын

    My favorite feature of this setup: the hubris of man

  • @kenzito6753
    @kenzito6753Ай бұрын

    Dude, you have some of the coolest sh!....stuff!! So much envy! lol Keep having fun!

  • @jiggle_counter
    @jiggle_counterАй бұрын

    This looks like most setups where money is tight and you have a graveyard of computer parts laying about

  • @Nukle0n
    @Nukle0nАй бұрын

    While Noctuas make less noise, they also often move a lot less air than the fans people replace them with, so be aware that there might be some temperature issues.

  • @FioFirefox
    @FioFirefoxАй бұрын

    I genuinely look forward to seeing what shenanigans will be happening each week and this one didn’t disappoint!

  • @suitandtieguy
    @suitandtieguyАй бұрын

    This is great. Thanks for the content!

  • @pseydtonne
    @pseydtonneАй бұрын

    iCab! Yesssssss! I've missed that hand-drawn taxi heading along the Information Superhighway.

  • @vilhalmer
    @vilhalmerАй бұрын

    So glad I got to see this in person at VCF, my SE can only dream of having this much raw computing power someday.

  • @kenbmiller
    @kenbmillerАй бұрын

    This was awesome! So cool to see this ridiculousness on Saturday and meet you at VCF East, Sean! Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

  • @robertsissco2439
    @robertsissco2439Ай бұрын

    To quote the legend Himself, “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.”

  • @ur1friend437
    @ur1friend437Ай бұрын

    Love these shenanigans😂

  • @HotelUser67
    @HotelUser67Ай бұрын

    this was sooooooo cool omg i had no idea you could do this!

  • @oscillationcommunications709
    @oscillationcommunications709Ай бұрын

    This was great! I’ts so great to see the internal colors represented! I found an se30 on the side of the road about 4 years ago,and it powers up but looks like it def needs a cap job,now I just gotta find a decent keyboard and mouse and go from there,but I’m def hyped to get er going. Always wanted one when I was young,and I’ve been wanting to explore the se30’s sound possibilities in regard to possible digi synth tones of the era. Are there any programs or hacks to utilize it in this way?

  • @borislab8153
    @borislab8153Ай бұрын

    really a mad construction! Thank you very much for this 'terminator like' invention !

  • @Sevenfeet0
    @Sevenfeet0Ай бұрын

    Back in college I was brought in to digitize the school newspaper and we used Mac SEs with Radius monitors. The crazy thing was that the Mac's basic ROM was so flexible in terms of screen handling that Radius didn't have to do much to get MacOS 6 to handle the external monitor correctly because the bones were already there from the Mac II which debuted at the same time.

  • @AaronHuslage
    @AaronHuslageАй бұрын

    I used one of these to output graphics from MacroMedia Director to a video switcher off of a Mac IIsi and an SE/30. It was fabulous.

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegraАй бұрын

    0:14 Loved the 65scribe shoutout.

  • @puwazatza
    @puwazatzaАй бұрын

    Wish their external graphics box was successful so many drivers were released for many MacOS versions.... thank you for this review!

  • @eugiblisscast
    @eugiblisscastАй бұрын

    🤣 Epic computing here! 🖥

  • @michaelouz
    @michaelouzАй бұрын

    ah, using the clear power cable from the iMac G3 on the egpu - i knew Sean was a man of culture (I use the same power cable on my gaming pc lol)

  • @Xpurple
    @XpurpleАй бұрын

    These are the kinds of videos that I come here to see!

  • @Foggy404
    @Foggy404Ай бұрын

    Looking forward to this!

  • @rickkarrer8370
    @rickkarrer8370Ай бұрын

    Great video! Pretty sure he played with us at VCFE, but didn't realize it was outputting to the other monitors 🤣. I'll have to figure out a way to send you the videos of my Pismo's fan mod. I've long since deleted all my social media, so I'll have to look into it when I get a chance.

  • @ActionRetro

    @ActionRetro

    Ай бұрын

    oh yeah your fan mod was really cool!

  • @elbiggus
    @elbiggusАй бұрын

    Always nice to see the curséd Mac making an appearance.

  • @NJRoadfan
    @NJRoadfanАй бұрын

    If you have an AppleColor RGB from the Apple IIgs laying around, it'll likely work with that adapter when running in composite video mode.

  • @theformerkaiser9391
    @theformerkaiser9391Ай бұрын

    I love that 65scribe reference

  • @boydpukalo8980
    @boydpukalo8980Ай бұрын

    Really interesting. I have never seen a SCSI video adapter before.

  • @quirble
    @quirbleАй бұрын

    it was a treat attempting to use this thing at vcfe! if someone could redesign a version of that graphics expander so it was INSIDE the (pretty much full to the brim) compact shell, that would be truly next level. (then the immense heat inside would just cook everything like the toaster mac it is)

  • @nickpalance3622
    @nickpalance3622Ай бұрын

    I again was at VCF East .. today (Sunday) .. like yesterday. And even though it was just before exhibit close time, I finally you and that Mac and scsi you. Great meeting you! Again I schlepped to where Usagi Dave was supposed to be to find .. Dave this time ! So today was a win 🏆 win! Now I gotta watch the video he released today and comment about how he cool he was with the VCF lanyard fiasco. But shhhh don’t bring it up with Jane.. I mean June .. she is still livid at VCF. But I suspect BilL “double L” Herd is cool with it all.

  • @DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
    @DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACsАй бұрын

    That is Crazy Sean that is pushing that device

  • @TheDigitalOne
    @TheDigitalOneАй бұрын

    That is actually pretty cool, believe or not. How does the device work on a modern VGA and beyond computer? @ 1st I thought that somehow the graphics of the computer were going to be enhanced, replaced by the device, regardless, so cool to see the extend the display function in a classic computer and installing the controller drivers for the device to function, ehehehe. Catch you in the next video! 😺🖥️💻📺🥰⭐️💎

  • @JCLoony
    @JCLoonyАй бұрын

    I wonder if 2 of those boxes would work at the same time? I have 2 radius version of that box(one is shrinkwrapped new old stock still), might be time to break the seal and try both.

  • @shadowj5639
    @shadowj5639Ай бұрын

    Marathon probably would have worked if you moved the menu bar over to the external display in the Monitors control panel. That SCSI video box is amazing though. I had heard of them but never saw or knew anyone who had one. I always imagined that it must have been too slow to really use.

  • @WolfTheDog
    @WolfTheDogАй бұрын

    I love it. Especially the cursed Mac.

  • @LabCat
    @LabCatАй бұрын

    Sean: I wonder if there's any CRT that can display this Sean off-camera: Oh DUH I forgot to switch it to Channel 3!

  • @EvilTurkeySlices
    @EvilTurkeySlicesАй бұрын

    I have to say, after seeing all this today at VCF East, it's even more cursed in person.

  • @probablyanadult7354
    @probablyanadult7354Ай бұрын

    6:30 It is so... Retro. I like weird things and I cannot lie

  • @basicforge
    @basicforgeАй бұрын

    LOL What? Again? 😲 Keep it up man!

  • @CubeAtlantic
    @CubeAtlanticАй бұрын

    Frogfind looks like a amazing vibe in my POV :D

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