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@Brok3nC4rrot

23 күн бұрын

I thought 68k.news was the Action Retro endorsed news aggregator?

@mattstone8878

23 күн бұрын

In the year 2087, someone will put the contemporary SoC of the day into the PCI-E slot of a 2024 Mac Pro...😅

@Brok3nC4rrot

23 күн бұрын

I thought 68k-dot-news was the Action Retro Endorsed news aggregator?

@georgesenda1952

23 күн бұрын

My Apple ][E, ][GS can be connected to my 2014 Sony Bravia with RGB cables so I see my games in color. I also can connect my ][C to my strange Westinghouse 21 inch television as well and if I want to drag it out of closet I can use my Apple color monitor so I no longer use green screen. Where do you get the card ? Apple ][ forever.

@mattstone8878

22 күн бұрын

@@northMOFN Can I gently remind you that KZread is a free service and that this content was made by one man for his own enjoyment? 😉

an apple 2 displaying an emulated mac plus emulating an apple 2 had me internally screaming

@JeffGeerling

23 күн бұрын

It was when he launched Windows 3.1 that did it for me

@robertvelasquez823

22 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Not quite, Windows 3.1 has a different startup screen compared to Windows 3.0

@JeffGeerling

22 күн бұрын

@@robertvelasquez823 Augh! Well whatever it was, at least DOS had some relationship to the Apple II :D

You did it, Sean. You committed war crimes.

@benotsilent6703

22 күн бұрын

lmao

@JesBuscus94

17 күн бұрын

I hope he's questioning his life choices 🎸

"Hello" is an Applesoft BASIC program. Errored because you tried to BRUN it.

@SlideRSB

23 күн бұрын

If memory serves, that Hello BASIC program should have ran automatically when the disk booted.

@thavith

23 күн бұрын

That's right. Just needed ] RUN HELLO to run it. BRUN is for binary programs

@Kauffy901

22 күн бұрын

@@SlideRSB It would have to have been INIT'd to the disk originally, I think in this case, HELLO was something like 10 PRINT CHR$(4)+"CATALOG"

@tigheklory

20 күн бұрын

@@thavith Yeah I would imagine that the Apple ][ was past it's prime before Sean was born. I yelled at the screen when he did that too. LOL. Also when he didn't adjust the Kraft joystick centering controls.

@alvallac2171

18 күн бұрын

@@SlideRSB *should have run

This really does demonstrate the versatility of the Apple II design. Kudos to Steve Wozniak.

@Scanjo99

23 күн бұрын

Not really. The program running on the Apple is simply redirecting input and output to the slot holding "another computer". It's not so much different from what happened when installing a modem. The apple is basically turned into a very over priced keyboard and monitor (in the server world you'd call it a "dumb terminal"). The Mac card is doing all the work and just watching the keyboard for input and sending output to the monitor. It demonstrates how far the industry has come that they can put a much more powerful computer on a card, or even just a chip. BTW...Apple did a computer on a chip in the Apple ][gs. The MEGA ][ chip was an entire Apple //e on a single chip to allow backward compatibility with all the existing software for the Apple ][ line. That was 1986.

@basicforge

22 күн бұрын

@@Scanjo99 Okay. Could you do the same with a C64?

@app0the

22 күн бұрын

@@basicforge Easy. Write a program that spits out mouse and keyboard packets in any preferred fashion onto the userport, and have the composite jacks being a passthrough like on this one. It'll be the exact same thing, just in a box sticking out the back of the C64 rather than a built-in card. Heck, you could even use a ZX81 for that. Have to give it credit though, as much as I'm disappointed this is how it's done, I'm equally impressed by how powerful the ESP chips have become.

@alysdexia

21 күн бұрын

not “powerful”

@TechRyze

21 күн бұрын

@@basicforge Should be possible on everything with an expansion port and a video / audio output as opposed to RF. Even some systems with RF output can have the video grabbed over the expansion port, and output to HDMI or whatever. See the ZXHD device, for an example.

Equally amazing is the AOL support number still works

@davidgreen8512

17 күн бұрын

That's the most implausible thing in this entire video.

Esp32 is a great piece of tech that is seriously underrated. I’d really like to see someone try to pull off a full modern slim OS running from one.

@TechRyze

21 күн бұрын

If it has an ARM SOC on there, then it can run Linux. The limitation is the composite display, and that 'should' be capable of 640x480 or higher. I think I've pushed 1024x768 over composite on a PC back in the late 90s, but I don't remember how usable it was! ...looks like it's 32-bit RISC-V - so... LINUX!

@Underestimated37

20 күн бұрын

@@TechRyze yeah xtensa or RISC-V depending on what model. So yeah Linux would be great, but considering its low specs, it would need to be slimmed down significantly. I was talking more about a full GUI operating system rather than something text based, and that would likely need a complete rewrite because most Linux UIs are resource heavy

@alvallac2171

18 күн бұрын

*underrated. I'd (to fix your comma splice run-on)

absolutely get what you mean about the 'look and feel' - for me, it's about the feel of the old keyboards and peripherals - and then pushing that as unreasonably far as possible is just fun!

"since we're already using retro-tech with reckless abandon" ~ favorite sentence of the video.

Action Retro: "The Apple II is a better Macintosh than the Macintosh." Me: * thinks about the Apple IIgs * "Well... Yeah..."

@JeffreyPiatt

23 күн бұрын

The GS 16-bit Apple II was the Apple 2 development team giving jobs Macintosh team a middle finger. A developer on the Macintosh insulted the tech demo game Donkey. Bas on the OG IBM PC over its colors. The PC has CGA the Mac was stuck in monochrome.

@Txm_Dxr_Bxss

23 күн бұрын

The Amiga was a better Macintosh that the original Macintosh.

@evertonshorts9376

23 күн бұрын

Everything was better Macintosh than the Macintosh

@WilliamHostman

23 күн бұрын

No, the ESP32 is a better Macintosh than the Mac classic/Mac Plus. The Apple is just a VDT for that The CP/M and PC Softcards are the same way. And GEOS is Gee-ohssss... but there's a GEOS version that ran on the //e natively.

@studiokadaver

22 күн бұрын

I still want a IIgs they’re such a unique machine in that area of Apple

7:20 Tons of 80s kids yelling at the screen “RUN HELLO”!!!!!

@Sisiphe40

8 күн бұрын

Well, in the directory, it’s a A, so you have to use RUN as it’s Applesoft Basic. For B, it’s a Binary file, so, you have to use BRUN. For the A file type, you can use LOAD then LIST to see the basic source code.

The ESP32 is such an versatile little MCU, people have done so much awesome stuff with it!

@alvallac2171

18 күн бұрын

*a versatile (because "versatile" starts with a consonant sound) *MCU. People (to fix your comma splice run-on)

@seshpenguin

18 күн бұрын

@@alvallac2171 Thank you

7:15 "BRUN ELLO" is for when you run it in PAL mode I guess.

@Bluedino549

23 күн бұрын

That's probably locked behind a registration, because I bet it asks "You got a loicense key for that, mate?"

@TheFlyingScotsman

23 күн бұрын

That's for the BBC Micro I guess... Proper Bri'ish compu'er

@Scanjo99

23 күн бұрын

No. Has nothing to do with the video mode. The error was FILETYPE MISMATCH because only binary files are BRUN. Applesoft basic and Integer basic files are RUN.

@givolettorulez

22 күн бұрын

Absolutely, becayse Montalcino is in Tuscany, so the standard was PAL, and don't know if it was possible to receive SECAM broadcasts from Corsica.

@forbiddenera

22 күн бұрын

​@@Scanjo99i can't believe how far that joke went over your ead

That Ensemble 2.0 won me over. Back in the day I am used it in on a monochrome IBM XT and a monochrome 386sx notebook. This enhanced Apple II would have made my day!

I'm calling it right now: shenanigans(); 😜

The ESP32 has more power than the Apple II it's plugged into 🤣

@-x21-

23 күн бұрын

It has more power than the Apple ii and the Macintosh it's emulating combined.

@ironhead2008

23 күн бұрын

That's why I think this kind of thing, as well as all of those Amiga accelerators that use a raspberry pi and that Ultrasound card that uses a raspberry pi, is bit of a dodge. It's not an accelerator card, it's a bog standard Apple II acting as a terminal for the ESP32.

@RobR386

22 күн бұрын

Yeah the ESP32 is doing all the heavy lifting, so its a CPU replacement more than an accelerator card.

@squirlmy

3 күн бұрын

@@ironhead2008 It took the MiSTer project a while to get the Apple-IIe core running, but it has, for lack of a better term, more integrity.

This is why the Internet exists. Boy do I love this channel. Thank you!

DOOM on a monochrome monitor is the most amazing thing I’ve seen in a while. And boy howdy-that keyboard sound? Take me back 30-ish years!

@GYTCommnts

23 күн бұрын

I had to play Doom in a monochrome VGA back in the day because it was what my family could afford at that time. It's an eerie experience, with a mood, but the only problem is that "red" and "blue" are almost the same on screen. Soo, have fun searching keys and doors... I did. 😅

@BrianJones-wk8cx

23 күн бұрын

@@GYTCommnts my PC at the time was an already vintage XT, so DOOM wasn’t even a possibility, too funny to think back now-we’re so spoiled today, aren’t we?

@cvt8353

20 күн бұрын

@@GYTCommnts Actually I use the NTSC luma conversion formula (grey = 0.299 * red + 0.587 * green + 0.114 * blue) to avoid this problem.

Imagine having this back in the day !

Reminds me of the Apple II and DOS/PC Compatibility cards Apple would later offer for some Macintosh models.

@Ragnar8504

20 күн бұрын

Oh yeah, what I'd have done for something like a Performa 630/DOS, let alone a PM 6100 with a DOS compatibility card when I was a teenager! Realistically, getting a used 486 or Pentium was much more realistic if you wanted to mess around with Windows and that's what I did. I did eventually get an Orange Micro Pentium card for my beige G3 but that was horribly unstable running Windows 98, not sure if it had hardware issues or if that was a general issue with those cards.

@squirlmy

3 күн бұрын

@@Ragnar8504 You could use the DOS compatibility card on Quadras, little bit nicer than Performas, although the 486 card didn't run any version of Windows nearly as well as real 486 or even 386 PCs, and there was no sharing or inter-operating. When running the card, it was a DOS machine, regular mode was a Mac. I think maybe at least you could get DOS files on Mac floppy that way, and no other. the floppies were normally incompatible

An Apple IIe clone was my first exposure to the Apple ecosystem. In fact, it was my first true computer (as opposed to a glorified word processor), I taught myself how to build spreadsheets on it using Appleworks.

@mercster

23 күн бұрын

Laser 128?

@bryans8656

23 күн бұрын

@@mercster I think you're right but it's been a long time. Sears was carrying them at the time, around 1989.

@mercster

23 күн бұрын

@@bryans8656 Yep that's Laser 128! It was my first computer, my parents got it from Sears. Wikipedia has an article on them.

someone: what's operating system running on this apple II ? sean: yes

@Scanjo99

23 күн бұрын

It's either DOS 3.2 or DOS 3.3 since the catalog says volume 254. ProDOS didn't use volume numbers, but rather volume names. I don't think it's possible to tell exactly which without a bit more info. DOS 3.0 was never publicly released. DOS effectively started at version 3.1 (sometime 1978) and it wasn't out long (a year or less) before being replaced by DOS 3.2 (Feb 1979). 3.1 actually never even had a manual. ProDOS came after DOS 3.3 but it was significantly different. Can't see the Floppy EMU clearly but it might say DOS 3.3 on it's screen.

Cool product. The Apple ii emulator running in the Mac emulator was the perfect touch.

Software emulation within hardware emulation within software emulation. Its emulators all the way down. Amazing.

@RetroDawn

8 күн бұрын

What hw emu are you referring to here?

Sean, you are jaw-droppingly *amazing*. Really, between coming up with insane shenanigans to doing tons of research to working your butt off to make things work to awesome editing to informative and humorous presentation . . . you get the idea. Thanks so much!

This is insane. I'm fixing up a Mac Plus right now, I'll have to emulate an Apple II on it (even though I have a REAL apple 2!) This video is full of SEANanigans!

@andrew.nicholson

23 күн бұрын

I love it. Petition to make a “SEANanigans!” T-shirt 📋✍️

@charliesretrocomputing

23 күн бұрын

@@andrew.nicholson yeah we need that!

@johnchristianson515

18 күн бұрын

I have a apple 2 plus and I'm thinking of doing this as well

@charliesretrocomputing

17 күн бұрын

@@johnchristianson515 I meant Mac Plus (just edited comment) but that's cool!

HELLO is a basic program (note the A file type), so RUN instead of BRUN.

@petec123456

23 күн бұрын

I came here to say the same thing. I always understood the A stands for "Applesoft (Basic)" and the B stood for Binary.

@joe--cool

23 күн бұрын

@@petec123456 Same. I was just heading to the comments to berate Sean, lol. I hope he never changes. This content is just too good. File looked small so maybe LOAD and LIST would also be interesting.

@Scanjo99

23 күн бұрын

If you actually did a "RUN HELLO" it would be underwhelming. It's just a program that runs automatically at boot and displays the catalog so you don't have to type "CATALOG" to see the contents of the disk. In other words, it would simply redraw the screen you're looking at...

@whophd

23 күн бұрын

@@Scanjo99wait, so you’re saying it DID already run?

@Scanjo99

23 күн бұрын

@@whophd That's the way DOS 3.2 and 3.3 worked. When you formatted a disk, you'd have a program in memory and issue the command "INIT filename". The disk would be formatted and the program in memory saved to disk with the filename specified and set to run on boot. In this case they did a "INIT HELLO" and the program in memory issued commands to do a catalog of the disk contents.

Very cool. I remember years ago working on a Quadlink board which emulated an Apple II on an IBM PC.

I think the craziest thing is how powerful the Esp32 is. You can do so much with it without ever needing to use a raspberry pi.

Soooo cool... I love living vicariously through this man and his shenanigans.

This would have pissed off Steve Jobs on sooo many levels, lol 😁

@coldacre

23 күн бұрын

cmon, he’d be loving it if he was still around 😄

@drewzero1

18 күн бұрын

​@@coldacreHe hated the Apple II, even though it was popular and paid the bills he felt like it was holding the company back.

me : It's too cursed. Make it more jank! Action Retro : Sure thing! *runs apple //e on macintosh on apple //e*

I will say is walking Mac OS more than running it 🤣 but it's a fantastic shenanigan 🤣

@ClearComplexity

23 күн бұрын

As the benchmark showed, this is actually running a lot faster than what it was supposed to be emulating. Base model Mac’s were the definition of slow with low hardware specs. Kind of why I never understood why people like them, the OS is beyond slow. I prefer my IIgs running GS/OS over the early monochrome Macs.

@kyle8952

23 күн бұрын

@@ClearComplexity They're slow but very polished. The IIgs feels a lot more computery, if that makes sense.

@SarcasticTruth77

23 күн бұрын

The IIgs is a very cool Apple II, but it's simultaneously kind of like a Mac II, but also like an Intel machine, trying to run Windows on top of DOS. Very technically cool, and much cooler than an 1st generation Mac. Very versatile. Not nearly as easy to use.

Plug in a massively faster processor into an older machine, can create awesome results.

*looks up and stares at the Apple //e on the top shelf*

@dave928

22 күн бұрын

do it.

LOL, thanks for the shoutout at the very beginning. Amused by this as always :)

the Apple ][ is the greatest computer of all time.

@saszab

23 күн бұрын

ZX Spectrum is greater!

@HotChocolate-cu7ei

23 күн бұрын

Nope PC XT 😎

@coldacre

23 күн бұрын

@@HotChocolate-cu7ei eww! have you no taste! 😜

i'm surpised that the AOL number still worked

I have done some fun projects with ESP32, but holy cow. This is impressive! 😮

This is probably the coolest thing that I've seen yet !!!!!!!!!! amazing that you can do something as cool as this is makes me wish i had an apple 2

Possibly the greatest thing I’ve ever seen

This was pure genius

Just got my first Macintosh it’s a 512k this channel inspired me to buy a vintage computer and work and have fun with it!

Sean,how and why you have a bulgarian "chalga" music(17:30 - 17:31 the image with the women one) on video selection ? I mean,did u download n put it in or ? I was shocked when i see it,btw greetings from Bulgaria

Look at that! It's Adrian Black ... in color!

i appreciate how you always cater to a wide audience!

Very cool ! Thanks for sharing

Heck yeah GEOS is awesome!!!!

@matthewmartinbooksbymatthe7193

23 күн бұрын

Geos on a commodore 64 was my first exposure to a "modern" computer with an operating system

@CommodoreFan64

23 күн бұрын

@@matthewmartinbooksbymatthe7193 Nice, and I can't say that was the case for me coming from a school that had Apple Mac's fairly early on around 86(When you live 5 minute from the gates to a now former Nuclear warhead plant the US Gov. tends to give your school system extra grants, and funding), but at home yeah this was the first GUI OS I had as well for my C64, and later C128, as my Apple IIe was mostly stock, and I even had an uncle who helped run a Commodore users group(how I got lots of Commodore hardware/software lol), so he sent me a modem for my C64 so I could use the included Q-Link service since I had 1 local number in my area, and that was my first gateway to being online at 7 years old in 88 around the time I moved over to a C128 after a faulty PSU killed my original breadbin C64.

@DanielMReck

23 күн бұрын

I used Geoworks Ensemble for years at home. It really was better than Windows and Office in so many ways. We liked the option for extreme high-quality prints out of our dot matrix printer -- It would overprint the each line about 9 times to get it almost as dark and crisp as laser output. It surely burned the ribbon but it was cheaper than a laser and toner in 1992!

@CommodoreFan64

22 күн бұрын

@@DanielMReck Awesome, and back 1992 I was just finally moving away from my C128, and onto a 386 with Win 3.11, and when Win 95 came out my mother helped me upgrade a used 486 with a Pentium overdrive chip and extra ram so I could run it, and also dual boot OS/2 Warp.

It's incredible how good the ESP32 is, considering it's so cheap and not only has wifi but bluetooth as well! An amazing SoC

I have one of these in my Apple IIe and it's so much fun. Highly recommended. The developer is amazing, always fixing bugs or adding new features.

It's absolutely brilliant. If only it had an optional HDMI output as well, it'd be perfect! I'd love to see these expansions for other 8-bit micros, as this is seriously usable with a Linux distro running on it. We're even going to end up seeing Windows on ARM running on these things before long.

Amazing!! I had an Apple IIc "back in the day"

Wow, cool video! I want that on my C128! What an awesome project! Thank you!

I have seen some shenanigans on this channel but sweet jumping jeebus... Now get BeOS running on it!

This card reminds me of an old Macintosh accessory called MacCharlie, which was a sidecar for the Mac that contained a PC clone system and allowed it to run DOS software using the Mac's display, keyboard, and mouse. The IIe card for Macintosh LC also comes to mind.

@squirlmy

3 күн бұрын

There were DOS Cards with a 486 CPU for the Mac, straight from Apple. You could get it in a Quadra 650, and also a Performer or two. The MacCharlie sounds like overkill. unless it had it's own floppy, because Mac floppy drives were mechanically unable to write Dos format, if you wanted a floppy to use in an ordinary PC, you were stuck.

@drewzero1

3 күн бұрын

@@squirlmy It had a 5 1/4” floppy drive built in, as well as a keyboard add-on that slotted the function keys and numpad on either side of the Macintosh keyboard. It was absolutely ridiculous, but that's why I find it so fascinating... It looks like it was introduced in 1985 and (unsurprisingly) discontinued within a few years.

Sean takes us to an alternate time line once again!

This card is awesome. I have some shorts showing off some of its features, too.

Apple II in Mac Plus in Apple II. This reminds me of when I found a Z80 Spectrum emulator designed for MS Dos. In order to use it on Windows 10 I run it is DosBox. The Z80 Spectrum emulator also had a dos shell within it. So I ran an emulated emulated emulator.

I saw your short the other day when DOOM and assumed it was running on another machine with video pass through. Turns out it was, only the other machine was in PR#7. What a great project. I wish I had an Apple //e.

This gave me a case of the giggles I'll be enjoying all day!

in all my years collecting I've never seen anything more cursed. I love it. Perhaps unsurprisingly the ESP32 is out of stock currently.

It's a 21st century take on the PC addon for the TI-99/4A. That was actually a full PC which had an adapter box to plug into the side port to use the TI as a keyboard for the PC. An ESP32 card like this apple ][ one could be made to plug into the side port or in the expansion box of a TI-99/4A and do all this same stuff.

Wow. The ESP32 is way more powerful than people give it credit for

Just awesome on so many levels.

I love the addins these old computers have been getting. I've almost gone broke expanding my Amigas lol.

Great vid. I'm not personally into seeing an Apple II turned into a keyboard/mouse for a microcontroller, but I love the fact that people are doing things like this. And as mentioned in another reply, it shows how cool the design of the Apple II is... I'd be more interested in using that card as an ethernet adapter or storage device for the the Apple II... Fun stuff tho...

There is a IIe in my Computer Room sitting next to a CBM 8032 and a PET 2001 series unfortunately I don’t have any drives and there’s also a period correct monitor from Apple as well. This looks like a fun project to play with. I have the same excitement about what’s going on in the Amiga world with all the PiStorm stuff. They just recently added Wi-Fi, which is definitely a cool thing to have on an Amiga.

You forgot the semicolon at the end of line 10 to make it run the width of the display.

This is dead-on detailed & good computer project for retro Mac's.

You need to upgrade the Apple IIe to an "enhanced" one to auto boot the Yellowstone and other Smartport devices. Involves a ROM swap and a CPU swap to a 65c02. Running minivmac in 480i mode actually makes sense on a Monitor ///. It has extended persistence phosphors to reduce flicker. Also, I can taint any Apple II with Windows 3.0 thanks to the Applied Engineering PC Transporter.

That is insane! What a cool card!

love it!!!

This is the video that made me subscribe to this channel.

Why I'm not surprised that there's a Doom port for ESP32, the thing that runs some of my smart lights...

That is something else Sean That is amazing

HELLO is the program that ran when you booted the disk image.

Can it emulate an Amiga and then run ShapeShifter on the Amiga to get back on MacOS?

the A next to Hello means Applesoft Basic, as you do not put the B in front to the run command. It'd just be "RUN HELLO", but Hello is the boot file, so there's no need to run it.

@ActionRetro

23 күн бұрын

ah, thanks!

In front of HELLO you can see letter A. That means that is an AppleSoft BASIC program. So you would need to do ] RUN HELLO ..instead of BRUN

That's a pretty neat little piece of hardware! NGL, I kinda wana get one!

Yes, but can you emulate the esp32 inside the apple2e inside the mac inside the apple2e?

Interoperability at its finest

*looks at ethernet jack* Is that going to short out the card next to it?

absolutely love Ground News, been a paying sub for about a year now

Really cool.

This is easiest one of the most bonkers hacks I've seen in years and I had an Apple ][+ in high school.

When I use cards like the pistorm etc I think of these more as co-procesors which is ok by me

Wow! I might have not sold my IIgs a year ago for this! I assume this would work in a IIgs if it works in a IIe. I had the IIgs and a IIc+ but I just didn't have the use for / connection with them like I do with my retro PC's, even though the IIc+ was my family's first computer and I played with that long before any PC. The first computer I fell in love with was a 386dx.

**adds Apple II to the list of "can it play doom?"**

I know the Mac Plus isn’t exactly the fastest machine in the world but I was not expecting a microcontroller to be able to emulate one with any kind of speed, let alone 2x faster!

The left column of the Apple directory tells you filetype. If it's an A, it's applesoft, B is binary. Only binary files use the BRUN command. Applesoft programs use the RUN command, not the BRUN. IIRC, I in the left is Integer Basic, which requires you to fire up integer basic before running it.

Now lets hope they bring out versions of this for other retro machines

If you hook up the composite 480i to a modern LCD TV video in, it should be able to do interlacing that looks good.

Woz would love this I bet!

Simply unbelievable Apple // and wonderful. I miss my Apple from the 90s until mid-2001, it was my companion.

@RetroDawn

8 күн бұрын

Interesting! You got an Apple II in the 90s and used it regularly until 2001? What model, what year, what age, and in what country, if you don't mind me asking?

so are there ways to create a Mac using a similar board with that chip especially if it is faster than the real thing? I think BMOW the maker of Floppy EMU has built something like what I am thinking about.

Apple II strong 💪

I'm using the ESP32 more and more in production.

I assume you’ll be bringing this the next time you’re at a computer convention.

So can the Mac emulator see a 3.5 drive connected to the Yellowstone? This is better than the PC Transporter from what you have shown Also reminds me of a project called Duet by CirTech which was going to let a IIGS run Mac software but was cancelled before it was completed