The poison. The poison for Kuzco. The poison specifically chosen to kill Kuzco. Kuzco’s poison.

@TheCjHEntertainment_Plus

11 ай бұрын

My favorite one

@vince1515

11 ай бұрын

That poison?

@TheCjHEntertainment_Plus

11 ай бұрын

@@vince1515 you must not understood the reference

@vince1515

11 ай бұрын

@@TheCjHEntertainment_Plus Literally the next line in the scene

@vince1515

11 ай бұрын

Never question my Emperor’s New Groove knowledge again

In regards to Han in TFA, it shows how Finn and Rey comes from different backgrounds. Finn was raised as a soldier, and was likely educated on the history of the Rebellion including one of their generals, Han Solo. Rey comes from a world in the ass end of nowhere, so she mostly heard stories about the famous smuggler, Han Solo.

@slowjoe0485

10 ай бұрын

That's true but what's weird about that is Han being considered a 'famous smuggler' Han wasn't a famous smuggler in the OT, he was considered a good enough smuggler to be hired by Jabba in the first place but got in trouble with him for failing to complete the job he was hired for. Han realistically only would've been well known as a smuggler amongst the bounty hunters around at the time and maybe some other people in the criminal underworld. I find it hard to believe his achievements as a rebellion general would've been overshadowed by his 'fame' as a smuggler even on a planet like Jakku. The line only works because we, the audience, know Han was a smuggler (he is famous to us in our universe) but in all likelihood his exploits as a smuggler wouldn't be common knowledge to random people across the galaxy 30 years later. Somehow Rey knows Han was a smuggler but thinks Luke Skywalker, one of the men who played a major role in saving the galaxy was a myth only 30 years later lol. A universe so advanced in technology we're supposed to believe that majorly significant historical events can fall into myth within 30 years or less, that's nuts, Imagine a modern day teenager thinking the events of World War 1 or 2 were myth

@slowjoe0485

10 ай бұрын

Also, I know you're just trying to explain what we were given in TFA but the fact that Han had to tell Finn about the Force being real when he saw it being used right in front of him by Kylo probably not even 48 hours before is quite funny. Also he says "Oh you gotta be kidding me" when Poe tells him about the map to Luke Skywalker when the day before he was literally assigned as part of a squadron to locate/retrieve the very map in question in the village on Jakku. TFA's writing aging very gracefully.

@dancingvalkyrie

6 ай бұрын

Who cares TFA is shit

Aragorn: Draw out Sauron’s armies. Keep him blind to all else that moves. Legolas: A diversion!

@TheMBE2003

11 ай бұрын

Honestly I think that ends up being a cute moment. Little Legolas just wanted to be involved in the conversation

Ironically the Jedi droid Huyang could've been the plausible "fish out of water" when it comes to knowing Corellia's current affairs.

@gavinsmith9871

11 ай бұрын

He's over twenty thousand years old. He'd know what Correlia is.

@StarWarsStory

11 ай бұрын

@@gavinsmith9871Emphasis on *current* affairs.

@CraitMerc

11 ай бұрын

​@@gavinsmith9871Thought it was 10,000 no?

@WalkinStereotype

11 ай бұрын

Exactly, he could’ve responded along the lines of “Has the shipyard fallen to a hostile party in the time I’ve missed?”

I also love how in the Falcon scene Chewie replies “I don’t know” to Finn asking about Han being a war hero.

Spaceballs. There is the big exposition dump using dialog between characters that would obviously already know the information. And then Helmet looks right through the fourth wall at the audience and says "Everybody got that?!"

Homer: Well, here we are at the Brad Goodman lecture. Lisa: We know, Dad. Homer: I just thought I'd remind everybody. After all, we did agree to attend this self-help seminar. Bart: What an odd thing to say.

I genuinely thought the line was her pointing out the fact that an assassin droid came from one of their facilities and how thats odd rather then bringing up the obvious

@marckthomaswilder1119

11 ай бұрын

That's how I took it as well.

@troha_halen

10 ай бұрын

Yup me too

I understood it as Hera being surprised that these droids are coming from a place under New Republic juristicion.

“Hey, I think I’m gonna take a trip up to Madison” “The capital of Wisconsin?!?!”

@TheBrixHub

11 ай бұрын

Tbf, I didn't know that was the capital of Wisconsin 😅

@WhiteWolf496

11 ай бұрын

"No, my friend Madison"

@dustinakadustin

11 ай бұрын

No Square Garden

@cellyzs

11 ай бұрын

A city in Wisconsin, that's a state in the United States of America whose first president was George Washington???!!!!?!?!?

This is true and the Force Awaken is a perfect example on how it could be done. That scene even tho is exposition the funny a quirky way it is done its why we can let is slide. I always laught when She says: "This is the Milenium Falcon the ship thatmade the Kessel Run in 14 par secs" and Han goes: "12! pft fourteeen 😒".

@stormtraitor6545

11 ай бұрын

Chewie shrugging “I dunno” was the cherry on top!

@batfreak1171

11 ай бұрын

@@stormtraitor6545 Chewie live for those moments 😂😂

@stormtraitor6545

11 ай бұрын

@@batfreak1171 Followed by Chewie silently nodding when one of the smugglers tells Han that he owes them “twice”. 😂

@JoanieDoeShadow

11 ай бұрын

Chewie is better at keeping count than Han since Han likes to round down.

Eh, depending on how frequent a piece of media uses it, it's just something I shrug off.

I think Hera was trying to convey that Corellia is under New Republic jurisdiction, not the fact that Corellia is a ship yard. Neither Ahsoka nor Sabine are New Republic officials so they might not know. I do hate the trope you're getting at though, but I think it made sense here.

Tbf didn't she say it was a question, like "The droid's from the shipyards?" It's a kind of question that happens 🤷🏿‍♂️

The As You Know trope is so funny, if done well it can warm up the audience to the characters like in TFA, if done poorly it can feel like everything leading up to the information dump was pure dumb coincidence

Maybe Hera's response could have been: "What would this droid be doing at a New Republic shipyard?"

@nunabisness7191

11 ай бұрын

Yeah just word it a bit different and boom

I understand what you're saying, but to me the scene works because she wasn't trying to explain what corelia is "ha yes, the rew republic shipyard !", she was more surprised " what ? the new republic shipyard ? you're joking right ?"

@DC3328

11 ай бұрын

It's still the trope whether it's a rhetorical question or not

@dancingvalkyrie

11 ай бұрын

Guess the stiff acting didnt help lol

@akumaangelus2999

11 ай бұрын

@@DC3328a trope that works and doesn't cause a problem expect for ego trippers. A lot of people don't know that Corellia is a shipyard, or that it's a republic shipyard, or that it was the NEW republic shipyard, or that was a planet in starwars. Not every character in that scene would immediately believe that the assassin droid from the Old sith wars was being produced in a NEW REPUBLIC SHIPYARDS. People are really ignoring context clues to make content and cry about their imaginary intelligence being insulted.

@kylebookout1789

11 ай бұрын

​@@akumaangelus2999 Great comment!

The ones that annoy me are "lets go over the plan again" or, and this ones a little different and happens mainly in sitcoms, when some thing happens at one location,andthen it cuts back to the characters home or whatever, and then they finally talk about what happened. Like disd you just drive home in silence?

I like how they made the Mandalorian a fish out of water character and it just makes him look stupid lol. Like really man you don’t remember the Jedi it really hasn’t been that long since they were gone.

@afierymess2307

11 ай бұрын

Mando doesn't know he's in Star Wars.

@N120Xeno

11 ай бұрын

That’s the thing about the fish out of water trope. It can work as a way for exposition if one character is out of the loop on the topic at hand but that topic has to be something obscure or make sense of them not knowing in universe. Otherwise the character comes off as a complete dumbass

@SethLordChannel

11 ай бұрын

Han was a literal teenager when the Jedi Order fell, yet he doesn't believe in any of it in ANH. This seems to be a common issue in Star Wars; events from like 20-30 years prior may as well have taken place 200-300 years prior since no one seems to really remember shit.

@xSuperFryx

11 ай бұрын

@@SethLordChannel a lot of things would make more sense if the prequels were 30 years before the originals instead of 20. I like to think there was a big misinformation campaign by the empire calling the force and Jedi frauds and it soon became common opinion in outer rim areas

Love the bad brains shirt

God I really hope they only do the "babying the audience" for these 2 episodes. I'd like to see Ahsoka succeed spectacularly.

I personally find it kind of funny and can act as a reminder or also build some hype (ie "omg we are going to Corellia!!!). This is as long as it isn't like a full-on 1 one-minute explanation which to me would just be bad writing (the whole show don't tell thing) lol.

Happens A LOT in medical drama shows. I remember it bothered me in the X-Files series where Dana always explains some medical term or phenomenon

I agree but i feel like they couldve done it way netter if they just took two seconds to make it sound more natural like "how could it be from corellia thats been a new republic shipyard since after the war?" There a more natural sounding line that delivers the same exposition

I know what you mean. As a writer myself, I can confirm that there's a very delicate balance between conveying what is necassary and cutting what isn't needed

I was thinking the same thing! I'm in the Army, and it would be like if my sergeant said, "Pearson, go get the TMP redispatched" and I went, "Oh you mean the orders allowing us to use our government transport vehicle for official business?" 😅 He would just look at me like, "Yeah dumbass. That".

It's like Corellia doesn’t even exist as a real planet to her, it's just one of the New Republic's shipyards and nothing more.

For me this happened, a friend of mine wasnt a native ebglish speaker so they would restate and repeat things to learn better. I did the same learning spanish and their friend looked at me and was asking why i repeated what he said. Im surprised this hasnt been used as a joke in writing dialogue.

A good example of this trope involving a fish out of water character is in the pilot episode of Firefly, when Zoe explains to Simon what will happen if reavers board their ship. And that information is crucial for the audience to grasp the threat they pose. Gives us an idea just how terrified we should be of these cannibalistic space pirates.

“He’s right behind me, isn’t he.”

Realization of shock that an HK Droid came from such a critical New Republic installation. And this may be some people's first Star Wars experience.

Corellia is an entire planet, not just a shipyard. They wouldn’t all know that the droid likely came from the shipyard.

You’ve got to understand that not everyone who watches Ashoka is a super-ultra-mega fan who’s watched every single piece of Star Wars content and knows what Correllia is. Ashoka isn’t perfect but it’s been exactly what the Star Wars fanbase needs: something to unite the fan base. Something that everyone can get behind.

shoulda just said "this droids locator chip was last scanned at a corellian ship yard" and left it at that

The best use of Tell Me Again is in Better Call Saul S5E9 because its actually not the trope that it is. If you know you know... and if you don't... then what are you waiting for, go watch Better Call Saul.

My favourite is: ‘as you know, I am your sister’

I know this specific critique is just one example of the trope, but Corellia is a whole-ass planet, not just "the Republic shipyards". It's like saying, "I'm going to Florida". Everyone's gonna look at you and ask _where_ in Florida. Could be Disney World, could be Orlando, could be Miami, could be HelloGreedo's house, but hardly anyone is gonna immediately know exactly where you're going. I think Hera, in essence, was just saying "The droid could have come from the Republic shipyards", but simply shortened it to just, "The Republic shipyards". That's usually what I think when I see this in shows and movies.

“Cairo… that’s in Egypt”

1:00 I mean, I could absolutely use that explanation lol

The point was Hera was surprised and finding it hard to believe; I mean, it is a planet under the New Republic and core territory of massive importance. In theory, it should be on the short list of where the droid is not to be from

If i have to hear someone in a movie or show explain what an EMP is i'm gonna lose my mind

Another great video from HelloGreedo, the Star Wars KZreadr.

Did you say the INNER SANCTUM OF THE ENTIRE OPERATIONS?! ... yes.

Ready Player One is 2+ hours of this non-stop.

Its a whole planet dog. the entire planet isnt a shipyard

They did it one other time in Mando lmao. It’s not a trope.

It’s not very often that I can agree with something that you say, but this is definitely one of those times. I absolutely hate this trope as well, and Disney loooooooooooves to use it.

I don’t really mind them because usually I’m not really considering this but I guess it is annoying if you are the type to notice stuff like this

As a writer... Yes. Thank you. “As You Know,” “Tell Me Again,” when text says the location the characters are in on the screen… and so many other things. These all treat the audience like they’re morons who can’t keep track of things. Well-written stories shouldn’t have to tell, they should just show. That’s how things become iconic. When you feel you need to explain things many times to an audience, it shows doubt in the writer’s confidence.

It may not occur to some people, but Frank from It's Always Sunny is a perfect example of a fish out of water character. He is the most recent addition to the group, whereas the rest of the gang had years building their friendships and experiences. Whenever the gang has to explain something to him, that they all know, it's a useful conduit to the audience, and it actually makes sense.

Or Maybe Hera was making sure the hologram wasn’t distorting what she said. ??

Old Lady: Who are you? Rey: I'm Rey Old lady: Rey Who? Rey: ...Rey Skywalker Old Lady: Like Luke and Anakin Skywalker? The protagonists of the previous Star Wars trilogies? Rey: Yeah *End Credits*

Ya know in real life conversation when somebody says something that doesn't sound right people will often repeat what was just said, or rephrase it so it's less ambiguous. Just because everyone in the room knows something doesn't make a statement someone else said any less ridiculous. I hate this trope where because you the audience member knows something means EVERYONE in a scene knows it or that EVERYONE in the audience knows all of this shit.

I know a lot about Star Wars, but am not as up on it as I used to be, and much of what I knew is Legends now. So, New Republic shipyards wasn't my first thought when Corellia was mentioned. I thought of Han Solo. I guess I knew they were known for ships, but that predates the New Republic. Hera saying that didn't seem out of place. She may have been stating something obvious, but as a question to clarify if everyone else is thinking the same thing as to what the source could be. Now, if she had said, "Corellia? Why, that's where the New Republic shipyards are!", then you might have a better case against it.

Also, the entire point of the character Basil Exposition in Austin Powers

Reminds me of nostalgia critic’s as you know rants.

I don't have a problem with it. My problem is more with the stupid non-lethal lightsaber stabbings. As soon as it happens you know: This persons fine. Just got impaled by something that can melt heavy doors as seen in The Phantom Menace, but its fine. No harm done here. And even IF they are not that lethal... Disney already established that if as soon as it happens, the person will be fine. It happend way to often already...

They wanted to ensure no one was confusing Corellia with Karelia.

Ah yes, the "as you know" trope.

I can really admire how George Lucas seemed to purposefully avoid this trope in his writing. In A New Hope people are namedropping left and right but they respect the audience to be smart enough to understand the implications just from the tone and context of the conversation.

There are literally 10 thousand planets in Star Wars. Who’s to say the planet is famous 🤔

While the trope is annoying, Corellia was an Imperial shipyard prior to this. So it does make sense for the exposition.

Yep kind of like Poe to Finn when the audience doesn't know stormtroopers now have jetpack, THEY FLY NOW!!!!! stormtroopers have been flying since TFU.

I understand the trope you explain, but I don’t understand the example in ahsoka. Is it a known thing that there’s a new republic ship yard on corellia?

Agreed the as you know problem comes up a lot in Star Trek and Stargate as well and it bugs the crap out of me.

I'm mostly fine with exposition if it's only a line or two. What I can't stand is when the entire scene is nothing but regurgitated exposition.

It definitely brings veterans to a halt to do "As you know" storytelling, but its an important trope for kids. Because it's clear there is Star Wars entertainment not for kids established and so fans are spoiled when it returns to the goofy fun of Star Wars rather than the gritty and thought provocative way of storytelling.

I’ll one up you even more on this trope, almost always when a droid who doesn’t speak English talks in Star Wars, the person talking to them always has to repeat every other one of their sentences back to them just so the audience knows what their saying.

I think it’s more the execution than the actual trope, it’s the fact that she so bluntly says “the new republic shipyard” that throws me off. My fix for the line would probably be “Corellia, how did it get off world? Corellian droids are only manufactured for the shipyards”. It’s not a perfect fix, but Ive turned it into a line that advances the narrative, and it’s also a way to tell audiences that Corella has a shipyard without saying the obvious to the characters who already know in universe

Well what would your solution be

Amazing

There’s a name for this trope. It’s called ‘maid and butler dialogue’.

Nice shirt, fav song?

show, don't tell

I hate tbis trope too, it sticks out so much

I actually don't know what Correlia is

Well perhaps it's a technique that goes along with lazy or not imaginative writing.. what can I say, it's a good show (i.e., Ahsoka), but the writing isn't Shakespeare, etc..

Nice shirt

Show dont tell.

i understood it more as Hera saying it as a place on Corellia as it's a whole planet so she was narrowing it down to places of importance on the planet

HelloGreedo? The Star Wars channel?

You're really nitpicking here. Characters in stories don't talk like real people, and this is done to help the audience. It's as simple as that.

@jlev1028

10 ай бұрын

They should.

This is a… weird thing to get this hung up on. You must REALLY hate this trope I guess.

@chrisdaniel1998

11 ай бұрын

To me, it comes across as the show thinking the audience is dumb, it comes across as patronizing. It takes you out of the show a bit since you feel like you're listening to a script, instead of a real conversation. Also, it's an interesting topic to make a video and start a discussion on. Bit of a... weird thing to call out. You must be REALLY annoying to talk to ;)

If you don’t know who Han Solo is… you shouldn’t be watching these movies!

My guy. When people do that, its because they're in disbelief and want verbal confirmation that what is going on in their head is correct. She didn't think a shipbreak yard would/could be the source of a sect of Imerial sympathizers. You could think thats dumb if you want, but the act of saying something aloud that everyone already knows in that situation is actually done in real life too. Its not bad writing. Its lazy writing.

For me old Star Trek is similar. They have this extensive techno babble, pretty much everyone on board knows they they mean but still be like "Oh so we're going to use gravity like a slingshot and shoot the ship past!" Literally all of you were just nodding like you didn't need this reiterated. For all its faults that is a benefit toward new Star Trek (specifically Strange New Worlds over Discovery or Picard). They aren't afraid to show that everyone has specializations and because of that they might not have general but extensive knowledge on all topics (like next gen or voyager). Most science/medical personnel wouldn't know how to turn the ship's engines into a portable nuke. The engineers would, but on the flipside the engineers wouldn't have the ability to perform a surgery on a species they just met, but one of the ship doctors might. So they might have to explain things to each other in layman's terms.

Don't they realise that most people will put together what the shipyards are when they arrive at the shipyards.

Here I am in the comments, the comments of KZread where I can write my opinion on your video

Disney Star Wars 🤭

*Somehow.... we have to state the obvious again.*

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Funny thing is you're complaining about this here, but there's an example in episode 5 where this is done with purpose and it's very funny in a good way.

look I get it if the show isn't your speed but wowee this is nitpicky

Oh i should hit that like button. You mean that thumbs up symbol below the video? Exactly.

This seems like a very, not much to post, post lol

I loved the later half of this episode, but other than that, this show has felt dull and lifeless….. almost like the Prequels. You know what wasn’t dull and lifeless? The Sequel Trilogy. Many people claim that Star Wars went downhill when Disney bought it. I claim it started when fans started bitching about The Last Jedi and now we’re getting more stuff like THIS.

@jlev1028

10 ай бұрын

The Sequels are the most corporate Star Wars content ever. They were the epitome of soulless.

@MediaLoverChris02

10 ай бұрын

@@jlev1028 Those aren’t the ones where the actors felt like emotionless cardboard cutouts and the effects looked fake as shit. That was ALL the Prequels.

Lol that little line irked me too I can't lie.

Corellia is a planet, not a shipyard. So to me it felt like Hera deducing the connection. It is more like saying "they attacked Washington D. C." and another character thinking: "are they after the White House?"

For fuck- It was a statement of shock. As in 'This Sith/Imperial droid that attacked you, and likely participated in the massacre of a New Republic ship, came from Corellia? A NEW REPUBLIC shipyard?' Hera is expressing confusion about the accusation because she doesn't want it to be true due to the implications. The POINT of the line is two-fold. Yes, exposition to set up a coming idea. But also to set up that it's incredibly weird that this would come from there. Which it IS weird. And we FIND OUT why and how it is weird. Because it was infiltrated by First Order/Empire people. As if yall would not ALSO be bitching if Hera said nothing and they went to Correllia and the guy in charge talked about all the stuff he talked about. Every last one of you would say 'Why didn't Hera or Ahsoka mention this?!'

@lucashampton6269

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, this is such an asinine nitpick. It's not a perfect show, but the video topic feels like it's trying to find something to complain about.

@MatchstickMan

11 ай бұрын

Been a fan of his vids for a long time. But.... damn he's oddly hypercritical of this show.

Yeah I feel the same.