The real problem of modern SW is that most of the people involved in Disney’s productions, doesnt like SW at all

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

That's just not true tho. Filoni clearly LOVES star wars. Jon Favreau clearly does too. I think if Leslie does from what I've seen in her interviews, I'm just not sure she likes what other fans like.

@NgVene

17 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbiz that's why I said MOST, not ALL of the people involved in the matter 🤷 yet the mediocrity of the screenwriting in the sequels and the way it constantly breaks canon on such stupid ways just shows a lack of knowledge and of respect to the original material. I can argue the same about The Acolyte or Kenobi.

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

@@NgVene filoni is the creative director and Favreau is the main writer for most recent live action star wars projects so who are you talking about

@trollogic1505

16 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbizyou love eating shit eh? Enjoy that shit get the peanuts too ffs

They haven’t allowed themselves to understand what they did with TLJ. I left the theater with a friend and we both felt sick and depressed. Expectations subverted. The acolyte feels the same way, Kk hired an unqualified person to oversee this major franchise and they set about undermining the story from the opposite end of the timeline.

@takuid

16 күн бұрын

destroy the age-old underpinnings of the story, you get not-Star Wars. That is all Disney ever accomplished.

Don't blame the community. If the creators we'rent busy trashing the franchise then the community wouldn't be this way.

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

Everyone needs to be held accountable. The community bullied the actor who played jar jar until he almost ended his life. That's not acceptable for a community to behave

@nathanmalick8048

17 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbizamen bro

@Hanoua2

14 күн бұрын

The media came hard on him because they said his characrer was a racist stereotype. Its not just the viewers

@persephone342

7 күн бұрын

@@Hanoua2but the media is just other humans writing opinion pieces. A movie review is usually subjective.

The insane part is that all Disney had to do was adapt some parts of the EU and they would have had a (at least mostly) satisfied fanbase It blows my mind that they insist on spending all their time and money trying to draw in audiences that will never be devoted to star wars, while simultaneously shitting on the fans that made it successful in the first place

When ahsoka was announced i nearly shit my pants. When it came out it took me over a month to finally watch it

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

Why

@trollogic1505

16 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbizbecause it’s obviously dog shit lol

@takanara7

6 күн бұрын

I just watched it a couple days ago, just because I was curious what people were saying about it. I found it sooooo boring. Ahsoka wasn't anything like what she was in the clone wars, they tried to make her 'stoic' but she's just so boring now. Obi Wan was a fun, charismatic character even in the A New Hope. Yoda was fun in ESB. Why is she so bland now? Also why did they cast a 45 year old woman in a role that requires so much physicality? So many of the characters just talk in like fortune cookies.

@TheDCbiz

6 күн бұрын

@@takanara7 because Jedi are boring. Compare return of the Jedi Luke who is so much more stoic than empire and new hope Luke. The 3d animated clone wars series did show fun Jedi but only because they weren't behaving like jedi. It was the clone wars and the Jedi acted completely different than in phantom menace and beginning of attack of the clones. It's why the high Republic is boring and most fans seem to prefer old Republic before Jedi became boring

Star wars is obsessed with fan service but they do it in every single wrong way. We want a good show not cool shots of random lightsaber ignitions

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

Are you sure? What do fans actually like about star wars? Imo some fans only want cool lightsaber action.

I totally understand your point, but i am personally not ready to let go. I love star wars so much, and it just pains me to see what is becoming of it. I really wish i could just move on, or just stop complanining, but when i talk to my homies about star wars of course we are going to talk about the newest thing that came out, and if there is nothing good to say about it, that means we are going to talk about how bad it is. Its really sad for me because i really wish they would make more things like Andor but it just doesnt seem to be happening.

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

But what do you like about star wars? Is the franchise just out of gas over nearly 50 years of stories being told?

@p_nerz9995

17 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbiz Nostalgia

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

@@p_nerz9995 wdym?

@p_nerz9995

17 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbiz it has been a part of my life since i was a kid, i have a lot of great memories with this franchise and thats why i love it.

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

@@p_nerz9995 that's cool and I'm happy you have great memories with star wars.

My disinterest actually started with rebels and Bad Batch, season 4 and 1 respectively were the textbook definition of "nobody dies"

I loved Star Wars, I didn’t hate any trilogy and I thought the prequels were the best. I played the kotor games and they were so good. After, when I watched the sequels I thought it couldn’t get any worse, but it did

Its not the fans job to like product because brand name... the ones complaining are the just the one who haven't given up yet.

@Joe-Przybranowski

7 күн бұрын

Nah I gave up long ago.

All I want is a pod racing show that has nothing to do with the main galactic conflicts. They could just adapt all the major storylines in modern F1. Could be so dope.

I've been interested in Star Wars since watching the original trilogy on VHS. As I aged, I've watched the prequels, watched the clone wars shows (two of them), read some comics, and played the video games that caught my eye. By the time Disney announced it's so called sequel trilogy, I wondered how it will play out. Sadly, they're disappointing to even think about. That, and the latest media Disney dished out is so messy that only a child who doesn't know better would understand. Am I sad at how Star Wars is now? Yes. Am I gonna throw my interest in it away because of that? Hell no. Disney Star Wars is dead, but the Legends and EU Star Wars will live on in our hearts. No matter what, I'm going to keep the memories of the good Star Wars stuff right where my brain and heart is, because those memories are a part of my childhood that I got left.

the moment i saw ahsoka in clone wars, it was very much over for me; call it an additional sense (it may be lingering blatant racism tho)

@achaudhari101

7 күн бұрын

How stupid of you.

@nera424

10 сағат бұрын

same, I love clone wars but ashoka just ruins it for me, that show would be perfect without her !

@achaudhari101

5 сағат бұрын

@@nera424 That’s a BS answer.

Money is talking - not passon for story telling

0:17 Like Jedi Council background

I feel this…I’m legit prepping a video very similar to yours. I’m just getting tired of Star Wars

Bro WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT, BRO, STAR WARS IS PEAK RIGHT NOW, I MEAN.. R U KIDDING ME? HOW COULD U POSSIBLY FORGET THE ICONIC SENTENCE "SOMEHOW PALPATINE RETURNED" I MEAN, IT WAS PEAK CINEMA! I COULDNT WAIT UNTIL THE MOVIE WAS OVER TO GO SHAKE VINCE GILLIGAN'S HAND! AND MY GOODNESS, THE LAST JEDI WAS AWESOME TOO!, JAMES GUNN DID A WONDERFUL JOB PORTRAYING REY AS A TEST SUBJECT WHO WAS IN HIGH INTELLIGENCE AND FELT FOR OTHERS! I CRIED AT THE END!!!

Only thing i'm still hopeful for is Andor season 2. Rogue One and Andor are the only things left holding my interest. ...which hurts me to think outside of it. All roads lead to the sequel trilogy.

If you never did, watch The Expanse. Best sci-fi show of all time, excluding Star Trek IP.

I have been a Star Wars fan since 1977, and I still watch and enjoy it to this day. I can't understand all the hate that it gets.

@Joe-Przybranowski

7 күн бұрын

Who hates the original starwars? This modern crap is what we hate- Bc it's nothing like that old stuff

@ian-flanagan

17 сағат бұрын

My core complain after the Acolyte is: it used to be very simple morality: Dark bad, Light good. It’s also fantastic for us to have more mature, morally complex stories, but to squeeze that into SW is stretching in original skin far more than ever intended, and it reframes (and imo devalues) the original movies. The OT and the Acolyte should be in the same genre, not the same story. Greed has devalued both. Of course, it’s fine if you have a different value-system, but does that at least help you “understand all the hate” a bit?

Nailed it

Yeah modern star wars doesn't feels like star wars anymore. It has the Jedi, lightsabers, lasers, spaceships... but something feels wrong. It misses the soul of Star Wars. The basic idea that it was build around.

I have been a Star Wars fan for decades, or maybe I should now say a George Lucas era Star Wars fans for decades. I tried very hard to like the Disney version, but I just kept getting more and more disappointed until I could not reconcile it all anymore. The introduction of a female clone in The Bad Batch show and turning Clone Force 99 into daddy daycare, finally killed my interest in Disney Star Wars. I'm now simply keeping to the magic of Episode I-VI and The Clone Wars.

@achaudhari101

7 күн бұрын

That’s very foolish to quit on SW over Bad Batch.

after one too many mediocre star wars productions I phased out of the franchise completely for about a decade. Saw Andor of late, it was a good piece of story telling for once. Still don't have much faith in the producers.

Cool brother at least yoy dont watch something you dont like anymore, like a lot of haters that just watch to keep hating

@deanog2577

17 күн бұрын

💯

@DentEdits

17 күн бұрын

💯

It is honestly sad that Disney has destroyed Star Wars, they have been a company which is canablizing itself for years. They killed their fairytale movies with the new live action movies and they killed the Marvel movies after Inifinty War, I'm not really surprised that this is happening to Star Wars as well because if they don't respect franchises that they created then how would they respect ones that they bought. I thought my feelings about Star Wars and the like was that I'd grown up and they were things that only appealed to my child self, but that is unture. The original movies had some issues but they still hold up even as I've grown, it was Disney who killed Star Wars. They murdered one of the greatest fictional works of the 20th century.

@theelitebattleangel

Күн бұрын

Then they said George Lucas killed the franchise.

The standards have fallen so low with Disney it’s satire now. Apathy has truly set in. I don’t think this generation we will ever see Star Wars again at its peak in terms of good writing, directing etc until KK and her cronies are out of LF. Until then the utter annihilation of Star Wars will continue.

@achaudhari101

7 күн бұрын

Your apathy means nothing.

I’m starting to like more Jurassic park and the Monsterverse then Disney Star Wars

Its the exact same for me. Andor, mandelorian S1 and clone wars was amazing, but the rest was either just uninteresting or borderline insulting. I stopped watching after Kenobi and have regretted nothing, there are other shows i can watch. Its pure apathy now. I dont even care if they start butchering the star wars canon anymore. The only sad thing is to see how much potential literally EVERYTHING had, but still most of it all failed

@seynpurrp

12 күн бұрын

@@ChopSueyyy rogue one was awesome too, in my opinion i loved the characters in that movie, i mean a blind old man thats obsessed with the force and a person whos there to save him from his mess with a machine gun IS GENIUS XD

@ChopSueyyy

12 күн бұрын

@@seynpurrp True, i forgot about that. Rouge one was really good

@seynpurrp

12 күн бұрын

@@ChopSueyyy oh mb did i say rogue one? Oh my apologies, i meant rise of skywalker. That movie was PEAK! The way palpatine returned was insane! I ran out of the theater to shake vince Gilligan's hand as soon as the movie was over!

Do you want a Rey Movie? Rey Movie, huh? Or a little bit more of the Acolyte? They cant let the Skywalker era go. It has to be a piece of Skywalker. They fumbled the skywalker era so hard, that i feel repulsed watching Star Wars now. Now that the reveal proofed that Darth Plagueis is really only Harvey Weinstein, we should just stop accepting Disney as Canon.

They should stop making most franchises. Milked to oblivion with no end in sight. Desecrating pre-established lore needlessly, blaming fans for their shit show, and calling them "ists" and "phobes." Not a very smart move but hey what the hell....who cares now....

It’s all opinions I guess. Bad Batch, I absolutely love.

I often hear the saying: There are no new stories. Everything was tried at least once. Judging by my reading experience, I agree. This is why modern writers, the good ones, do not try to create an original story. They, more often, switch genres. Placing, for example, a typical fantasy story into a sci-fi environment. Or go deeper into a matter, exploring the usual tropes from a new Point of View. However, it takes skill and knowledge of existing material. It is not enough to wish to subvert expectations; you need to know what those expectations are and be capable of coming up with an alternative. This is where Andor succeeds. They took the worldbuilding of Star Wars and explored the implications. They dug deeper into the flimsy premise and created a human story everyone could enjoy. This is where Return of the Jedi fails. The movie looks like someone has thrown a bunch of plot points on the whiteboard, stuff they wanted to happen, and never bothered with connecting those and analysing if they make sense, particularly in the SW universe and for human viewership in general. They always avoided asking if the characters act according to their... well, character. Or occupation. This is why we got Luke, who is not Luke, and a Purple-haired Vice Admiral, who is not an admiral at all. This is also why most Star Wars shows and movies for Disney fail. I can agree or disagree with the direction in which they take the Star Wars universe. This is more or less irrelevant. But I expect them to take their freaking job seriously. I want to see an effort put into the creation that exceeds an average amateur writer on Royal Roads. How could it be that I know fanfics with better stories, written with infinitely better understanding? They have budgets for hiring a team of development editors and fact-checkers, which would stay under the catering allowance for their productions. I expect professionalism from people earning per project more than I earn in a lifetime cranking out computer code.

@DentEdits

17 күн бұрын

I would say that there would always new stories to tell just most modern days writers aren’t creative

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

​@@DentEdits I disagree. There are only like 5-10 stories you can tell but the remixing and reimagining of those stories appear endless. But imo star wars is out of stories. It ran out of gas for nearly 50 years

@takuid

16 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbiz "There are only like 5-10 stories you can tell" yeah buddy, I will go even further and say that there are basically 2 stories you can tell, A story involving a human and a story not involving a human. There, reduced it further for you. you are welcome.

@TheDCbiz

16 күн бұрын

@@takuid that doesn't narrow it down. You can have stories with humans and non humans. So 3 technically speaking

@takuid

15 күн бұрын

@@TheDCbiz stories with humans and non humans, contains humans. So, it is covered under the "A story involving a human". There are 2 stories you can tell and I gave them to you :) It is over, no more stories to read, no more stories to write. It is all very much over.

Acolyte is the first star wars show I easily decided I won't watch.

@seynpurrp

12 күн бұрын

@@Whocaresfrfrfrim same, lol

What a great video definitely deserves a like and a sub

I have been a Star Wars fan for about 10 years since the force awakens came out And after that I started getting really into it like the lore different Planets, creatures, animals, technology, languages, Weapons ships, vehicles, quotes etc. And For the past months or years, there was a time where I just wanted to Give up On a franchise that I love since the force awakens just because of how the fan base is it was just too much for me to handle Because not only here I see it On youtube put facebook instagram etc. But then I tried my best not to let go of a franchise because if I did let go of a franchise that I loved and I wouldn't watch all these newer shows Especially the movies as well. But I could totally understand where you're coming from And why star wars has been pretty disappointing for you and you guy's as well and i fully respect on that. But for me though I'll still continue to watch star wars because again I don't want to let go this franchise I want to keep continuing watching it just without the toxic Getting in my way.

You’re part of the problem if you refuse to come back even when SW is back in its glory days.

@ShumaiTheDetective

16 сағат бұрын

What do you mean glory days? Star Wars is in its stale toxic Disney phase fans too Both claim to be each others enemies instead of love for Star Wars there is hatred from both sides

@achaudhari101

5 сағат бұрын

@@ShumaiTheDetective Because both are stupid.

Reject Disney Wars and accept Star Wars ended when Lucas sold the franchise. It'll take some getting used to but you'll be better off for it.

The problem with your post is that many people also had a problem with the prequels when it came out just like you have a problem with Disney’s Star Wars. There are plenty of bad lines in the prequels but people still enjoyed them. And the complainers of the prequels were eventually relegated to the sidelines, as a future generation grew up with them. Same will happen again

@guidoivanmendez2354

15 күн бұрын

I don’t know. The OT and PT generations grew up more or less the same way: movie theaters, video games, TV, books, comics, and going outside with your friends, VHS. No social media. Now, all interactions are made through a PC: Steam, Twitch streams; you name them. Also, streamers and youtubers are taking the place that belonged to Hollywood stars in the past decades. They know the names of their favourite content creators, but i doubt they know who Harrison Ford is (the younger people i mean) Everything changed. They don’t held cinema in the same regard as past generations. They tend to forget quickly content they saw recently once it is finished. We, Millenials and Genxers, are the last generations that used to held things in high regard for decades.

@jerickquanas

15 күн бұрын

I thought the same thing when I was making this video, wondered if the future generations would appreciate the sequels. I do think the prequels aren’t as good as the OG and have a lot of flaws tho

I have been an obsessed fan for 25 years and Ive never felt so disfranchised with Star Wars. Its not just some mediocre to bad content, its the rabid fanbase. There is alot of good things about Star Wars still to enjoy and discuss, but the community doesn't do that anymore. Most channels that aren't lore specific channels, are just grifters now. With a handful of exceptions the lore channels act like nothing after 2008 counts. I don't want to leave, but I guess I will just have to enjoy it alone.

People are becoming less and less interested in SW because that's Disney's goal by making slop. Blackrock is going to give them the money either way as long as their shows are woke. If you are interested in real SW content, you can find it in the old Expanded Universe. Not really shows or movies, but rather books, comics and games.

At least there are the pre-Disney books to consume, I was pretty meh when Force Awakens came out, but The Last Jedi was just insulting and Rian Johnson is a prick, made me sick watching an interview after the Last Jedi had come out where he said, with Mark Hamill in the room, “Well no one liked Empire when it came out either” The man is full of shit. Anyway just as Disney tossed all the great canon they had to work with, I tossed this stuff and went back to the original canon. I know George never put his blessing on all the books or anything, but they at least have so much more respect for the source material. I’m holding out hope that fans will eventually make fully fleshed out versions of the Thrawn Trilogy, individuals on KZread have already taken a good crack at it.

@achaudhari101

7 күн бұрын

EU wasn’t Canon.

Star wars was never a good franchise never did it in the Prequels and I do not like them. Because they're not good movies, and it doesn't now. Star Wars works best as a TV series.

There is no Star Wars anymore, it’s star woke

Star Wars fell off in the same way Guitar Hero and Rock Band did. Way too much stuff too quickly that wasn't good enough or interesting enough to be worth your time and money.

Stopped caring about star wars like 20 years ago yo

@achaudhari101

7 күн бұрын

That’s dumb.

Rogue One really wasn't that good and Solo was terrible.

@DentEdits

17 күн бұрын

Never Never speak again

@motreys

16 күн бұрын

​@@DentEditsit legitimately took me 7 attempts to get through Rogue One without falling asleep

@DentEdits

16 күн бұрын

@@motreys how it’s amazing in my opinion

@Leitis_Fella

15 күн бұрын

Rogue One could have gone from a good film to an excellent film with better character progression from a few extra scenes. It also gave us the masterpiece that is Andor. Solo was fun but not great.

@motreys

15 күн бұрын

@DentEdits I guess I just didn't buy into it? Visually it was good but, especially Vader's hallway scene. I'd often try and watch it before bed but it was just never compelling enough to make it all the way through in one sitting 😅

The moment kylo ren got introduced it was over for me, the originals is where its at the rest is a political shit fest of tantrum child like men and injected female power pushing

@TheDCbiz

17 күн бұрын

Which films do you consider the original?

Do you think we are your therapist? I don't want to know another man's 'feelings'. Analysis, insights, make connections, deepen our appreciation for a work of art. Most Star Wars whiners have nothing useful to say, and you too the cake. Get useful, or get lost!

@SunShine-xc6dh

16 күн бұрын

Take your own advice...

it is ok.. there are still many many shows for people who want to see their white homies in every scene.

@DentEdits

17 күн бұрын

Huh?

@niklbauglir

16 күн бұрын

@@DentEdits Just ignore the racist pretending to be anti-racist. He's probably a fascist in anti-fa too