This is close to my current computer. I have an i5 2400 and a gtx 1650 (the non 6 pin card) along with 8 gigs of ddr3 ram. Runs fine but is diagnosed with asbestos

@ZackSNetwork

3 ай бұрын

It’s way more powerful though.

@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137

3 ай бұрын

Mine is i7 2600 and a gtx 750 ti with 8 gigs and still really good at running games at the moment

@drek9k2

3 ай бұрын

@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137I mean I'm pretty shocked what can be run on pretty piss poor graphics cards, you can still game on a GTX 780m laptop pretty good, I think anything lower though starts skipping so many VRAM, Vulkan API, and Dx problems, but ultimately there's basically little sense in getting something less good than an RX 580. Which is still perfectly fine btw, Like I don't get people's upgrade priorities, I seen some people replace whole systems including the CPU and board, this guy got a 2600 to 7600x rather than a 5600x and then went form 5700xt to 6750xt for instance. Then you got people like this guy who still on a 750ti for some reason. I mean, don't get me wrong when you're going as close to "it was Free" as you possibly can a 750ti is fine. Won't run tons of shit, but you'd be shocked what it'll still do at 1080p. But the thing is it gets to a point where like a GTX 980 is under 100 bucks, a RX 580 is like $80, you can more or less get a new graphics card for a day of flipping burgers or waiting tables at that point it's seriously a huge absolutely massive upgrade. For you like a 580 or used 5500xt or 1650s or GTX 980 or something to that effect would go from having framedrops on really old games, like 30-44fps on Witcher 3, to being able to play The Division 2 online.

@itsdokko2990

3 ай бұрын

@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 i take my hat off to that 750ti, HOLY SMOKES that little fella refuses to die

@waldfruchttee

3 ай бұрын

i have my i7 3770 overclocked to 4.1ghz(no not the 'k' variant) with 32gb ram and a rx 580 and im happy with it

Any pc at this price that can play games at a playable fps is a win

@Lurch-Bot

3 ай бұрын

I recently sold a 3770/1650 build for $350 and it didn't have any crappy stick on RGB. But a random GPU tossed in a random old workstation with some random sticks of RAM by someone who is moving large volume is a great way to get a crappy worn out old system. I doubt they spent several hours benchmark and stress testing this PC. So caveat emptor. you don't wanna see what an old Xeon does when it has been running constantly for years in a workstation with insufficient cooling. It isn't pretty. This is probably a B or C grade machine with a cheap remanufactured GPU. I want to know if it will run on stock drivers. I bet it is a frankencard with a mobile chip. ewaste peripherals are for people who hate the environment. Just cancels out any good that comes from repurposing an old workstation.

@usleadershipareliars

3 ай бұрын

Especially if you got kids. It's perfect

@Ssebyt12

5 сағат бұрын

oem ones uhhh

The best RGB is shoehorned RGB.

If $300 is all you can afford this is tough to beat. It gives you something you can really play games with plus do actual work, which you can't do on a console.

@sol-hb8zg

3 ай бұрын

I would say get a console unless you need to work like you said otherwise yeah this build is fine

@oneshot1kill158

2 ай бұрын

Doing work on this would be a terrible idea

@oneshot1kill158

2 ай бұрын

​@@sol-hb8zgdoing work on this would be terrible

@JeffDeWitt

2 ай бұрын

@@oneshot1kill158 If you are just using Office apps and browsing the web it would do fine.

@MB-jh7fy

2 ай бұрын

How? It’s more than powerful enough for browsing, Microsoft office, even video editing wouldn’t be too bad due to the gpu doing the encoding work

I'd grab a used i7-4790k and throw it in there and it would be a way better pairing for that 1660ti.

@lucifermorningstar2154

3 ай бұрын

i am aslo thinking the same thing

Grabbing an i7 Haswell/Devil’s canyon will greatly improve the performance. Friend of mine is still rocking 4790 and a 1070, all he needs for 1080p 75Hz

@3w3Ch00B

3 ай бұрын

4770 and 4790 are great chips. Plenty of cheap cooler upgrades over the OEM ones.

@subbookkeeper

3 ай бұрын

but i7s are fare more expensive just for that i7 badge only. Just get Xeon instead. Same or even better performance for a fraction of a price.

@adriandzwonkowski801

3 ай бұрын

Yup, just recently I have build PC with i7-4770 and GTX 1660S + 16GB 2400Mhz RAM and it's rocking. But - gtx 1660S is probabvly like the best GPU that this CPU can handle

@toufusoup

3 ай бұрын

@@subbookkeeperi7 4790s are usually $30 on eBay. That shouldn’t be too bad

@corneliusantonius3108

2 ай бұрын

THIS ! and the mobo can handle 32 GB

This PC takes the $15 E5 1240 v3. Worth buying and selling the i5 for an equivalent amount.

@safn1949

3 ай бұрын

E3-1240 V3, it also has an ATX psu and can be upgraded with an inexpensive adapter cable.

4:30 - Great placement of the sticker, blocking 90% of the exhaust port.

@dizy82

3 ай бұрын

That does not exhaust anything. It is not a turbine video card.

@miguelmodesto8677

3 ай бұрын

@@dizy82 Some air will come out there, if you notice the aluminum heatsink at minute 3:45 some aluminum fins are directed towards the GPU backplate. On a 1660 ti it may not make any difference, but if it were a more powerful GPU it could add a few degrees.

@GregSalazar

3 ай бұрын

Figured most would know to remove such trivial stickers prior to first boot :-)

That technically a win in my book, I see pcs like this alot. It's a soso base to start on, lots of *cough* room to grow

@soccerguy2433

3 ай бұрын

room to grow how? What better CPU can that mobo support? what kind of RAM can it support? 14:50 Greg even says that criticism points out there is no upgrade path 15:10 greg says you shouldn't prioritize an upgrade path

@DerpScout

3 ай бұрын

@@soccerguy2433 WOOOOOOOSH

Please, Crystal Mark disinfo or something similar so we can see the amount of hours used on that hard drive and any smart errors.

@Pasi123

3 ай бұрын

That HGST Ultrastar is an enterprise drive so it likely has a lot of hours

@GregSalazar

3 ай бұрын

Will do for future videos!

A cheap Xeon E3-1230 v3 upgrade would balance this old PC out quite nicely. That being said I literally picked up that HP without the GPU with a Xeon E3-1271v3 for £70, and has a 256GB M.2. SSD and 1TB HDD.

Thanks Greg ... this video was really well done and I appreciate the fact you kept referencing that this a budget gaming PC that just gets the job done for the money.

Here we go again down the old rabbit hole of pc lol

Thank you for covering stuff like this Greg, always interesting, and always a pleasure.

You know its a good video when Greg buys a PC from amazon.

Nice video Greg great value for your money.

I enjoy these videos for the nostalgia element. There was a time when I had to "Budget" my computer setups like this one. They did the job as needed. Glad I am much more fortunate now but know a lot of people can't afford custom systems. Happy people have a place that is affordable to jump into my passion for PC's. If all you have is $300, why not?

Enjoy the content keep it coming Greg!

I have done this multiple times and came out on top BIG TIME. No issues what so ever in any components. I need to do something like these videos.

Good video. The computer was better than expected.

Nice video. Nice performance for the level of machine this is.

I bought one a year ago. Mine had a i7 4770, 16Gb ddr3, 1660 Super, 256SSD, and 3TB HDD for $330 + Tax. As long as you know what you're getting it's fine. I'm primarily using mine as an HTPC. I added a Blu-ray drive and 4TB of SSD storage...and I swapped out the OEM PSU. No complaints.

This is like a slightly upscaled Optiplex refurbish.

Not sure why, c but did NOT expect Greg to be driving as TRX RAM lol Nice truck, dude!

I actually really like the hp prebuilds. My girl games on an elitedesk that came with that cpu. Got it local for super cheap. Does really well for what it is

I own a bunch of those HGST drives. I use them in my NAS. Good drives, just loud.

It absolutely has an upgrade path. You could put a Xeon of i7 strength, probably go up to 32gb RAM, definitely newer storage, a 1080ti will run most anything you can throw at it. 4th gen is shockingly solid still, today.

@drek9k2

3 ай бұрын

I mean at that rate what good is 32 gigs lol. I mean yeah if you can avoid the CPU bottleneck on old enough hardware that becomes a serious issue, a 1080ti is freaking amazing you can literally play the newest games at 1080p. Not sure how DDR3 is gonna do it for yah, I mean DDR3 is fine, what I meant is 32gb isn't that important for what you're doing.

@mitsuhh

3 ай бұрын

4th gen CPU will bottleneck a 1080 Ti so much

@narwhal9852

3 ай бұрын

don't waste your money on 32gb of ddr3 there is zero point. you'll max out any cpu of that age gaming before you run out of ram lmao. and a 1650 is more a match for this rig as you could see the CPU bottlenecking the 1660 ti Sure 4th gen was still used when the 1080ti came out but I don't care what argument you have it will bottleneck a 1080ti like no tomorrow unless the game is 99 percent GPU dependent and Windows isn't checking for updates

@thedungeondelver

3 ай бұрын

@@mitsuhh I have that same setup and it sure doesn't.

@mitsuhh

3 ай бұрын

Explain how I got massive framerate boosts going from a Ryzen 5950X to a 12700K with a 1080 Ti. Lies.@@thedungeondelver

Best youtube tech chan so under rated

Nice crunch sound from the mouse. 11/10, would run over it again. Also the pc is pretty nice. for 300 dollars, thats still alot of pc to make use of. Looking forward to the next video.

@GregSalazar

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! :-)

I use to have a PC like that as my gaming rig. Got an old optiplex from Free Geek with i7 4770 in it for around $200 then slapped a GPU in it. Was good to go. I've upgraded far and away since then and converted it into my home server till the motherboard finally died.

Nice truck Greg

Hi Greg! I appreciate videos like this not just because it's better to re-use older equipment when possible but also because most people looking for something to game on are on a budget. I mean, my son is happy running roblox and minecraft and something like this would be perfect for those titles.

also consider that if you have a quest 2 and a link cable, you can do some more in depth VR stuff, like VRChat not in quest mode. (more worlds/avatars full game access ) I have a similar setup , "prodesk G1 hp" same case and motherboard but a I5 4670 and i have 1050ti, still does what i need, but leaves alot to be desired . CPU and the slow ram is a big hit I feel, and yeah 100% you really would have to replace everything, to get into a newer platform. maybe save some sata ssd 's ? or if you have any like usb hub/audio cards installed those can be some what use full in newer systems depending. awesome video, felt like it was aimed at me and my dumpster fire pc. thanks greg

This is a good find. You did it again.

Hey Greg, I love the channel and content! I guess you can talk about upgrade paths although from a prebuilt perspective, check out the Lenovo P520's preowned if you don't know about them already. There is at least some upgrading available. There is a little configuration needed but well worth the price. I had come across this and picked mine up off online for $212 w/o HD, GPU or OS. It was manufactured in 2020. It is Windows 11 compatible as well. It's a Xeon W-2135 6 core 3.7ghz - 4.5 processor with quad channel memory support with a 900 watt platinum power supply. It supports M.2 and PCIE 3.0. I was able to get 32GB ECC DDR4 2666 ram in quad channel included. This was a few months ago so keep this in mind. I paired a Samsung 980 M.2 1TB,$50 on sale and Zotac 1080 card $50 off of online. I know this is a tad over the $300 mark, but worth noting. This is just something to think about that can run AAA titles. If you can or have the means, I would love to see this thing benchmarked with a 4070. Keep up the great content!

I have something similar, but with an i7. Currently running all my homelab docker containers.

Thr bad frame rates could also be a result of mixed ram speeds. Just one ram chip being slower even by just a few mhz could also give you the stutter you experienced

I really enjoy these cheap purchase videos.

Can you guys do a video of budget game controllers for PCs? (Currently I'm looking at one called Fantech gp13 pro but I don't know if it's good or bad. PS I've never had a PS or a Xbox this will be my first time using a controller)

Could you maybe include a bios settings check to see if any improvement is possible in future videos of this type

With such a powerful video card you really need some kind of frame-limiting to help keep frame pacing in check. These older games were not run back in the day with draw distance so far or at such high resolutions, so you need a really fast load/decompress to get the assets in quick enough. You may see best results in future by running on Proton/Vulkan/Gamescope because a lot of work is done to get frame pacing even. You know this is the way because with ARC Intel is supporting DX12 native, and then translating everything else to DX12. And it makes a ton of sense, it's way more compatible and much less work.

I feel like Greg really wanted to show us his truck.

Really enjoy these videos. I thought I was getting a great deal when I was getting a desktop for around $200 until I started to play games. Keep up the great work and thanks.

@GregSalazar

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

3:45 Did a bit of searching online and the 1660ti seems to be an oem lenovo model.

There are 3D-printed universal I/O shields for motherboards that you can buy, mainly from eBay. Takes a while to snip the holes for ports, but at least you have something there rather than nothing, and the cost is a price of coffee (maybe 2 coffees, the second one for you to drink while snipping)

SWBF2 really requires 4 cores 8 threads or more, so not surprised

I'm still using one of my HDDs from around 2013 in my current build as a data sink, and it is doing perfectly fine, showing no signs of nearing the end of its life.

Those prebuilt computers are awesome for surfing the net, watching videos, downloading and storing drivers for other builds, email, retro games, going to not so secure sites etc. Just never enter important data and burn a disc with all the drivers for simple restoration when needed. I have some hard drives that are 20 plus years old that are still running. Just back up data on optical media or thumb drives. build one for the kids and let them play and learn the ends and outs of pc building, maintenance, etc.

I had a GTX970 in a Medion prebuild that also didn't have MSI branding but it did show up in hardware info as MSi (SuperTechGroup)or something like that. I guess it's pretty common to find hardware that's none descriptive and yet still mysterious when you dig deeper.

That RGB on the first start up had me blown away.

Greg is the motherboard able to handle a little better cpu? I mean for like another $40 maybe bump to a higher one in that family?

Nice PC for the price. V-sync is must have option for systems like this. I use it even in my RTX 3060 Ryzen 5 5600 build. FPS is SO stable.

HP power supplies ARE top lol. Great vid 👍

I would be curious to how viable this is to target for extra gaming computers, such as for a family, how do you target the ones you do, include the EBay or Amazon process would be good information.

main upgrade for this would be a matching 16GB kit vs the random sticks they tossed in, and dropping in a 4770/4790 would open some things up. In all if that's what you have in budget, it's not that bad to get started as a jumping off point.

I watched a free Greg Salazar video. It was great!

Did i get ripped off......probably. i love it man. Great videos.

The mouse crush was satisfying 🙏🏽

@bmanrockwell2174

3 ай бұрын

I think he improved it 😉

Nice work Greg. These project can be a real gateway to hobbyist pc work. Learn to fix these old pre-builts, realize there's a good cheap market of 115X parts and systems out there, collect and build and tinker. Oh! ddr3, that's gonna be the hard part soon unfortunately.

Greg do You think the i7 4790 would have done better with the 1660ti? I have one here an HP Pavillion with a Memphis 2 uATX motherboard, this one has an io shield and looks like it would fit a bogg standard ATX case, I was thinking of making a cheap computer for someone and selling it.

i still own a pc from 2015, still going strong. HP Envy 700 Series with an Intel Core i7 4790, RTX 2060 Super, and 12gb RAM. made some minor upgrades to it and still happy with it

What was the SMART info using crystal disk info for the HDD?

All that needs is a cpu it takes with hyper threading and i,d bet that utilisation would come down alot on the cpu and let the gpu run slightly better...

@GregSalazar I think you nailed the conclusion. Spot on in my personal and professional opinion. Although, I will say, in this particular case, that HP does have a few upgrade options. For example an i7-4770 is not expensive and would give a reasonable boost to performance. Also, even though this system is very CPU bottlenecked, an RTX card like a 2070 or 3060, would be doable as the workload would mostly be on the GPU. A bigger and faster SSD and HDD would be possible too. Each of these upgrades could be done over time and would be inexpensive. Last point, that HDD is fine. Many of the HGST line up sound like that. They work fine. I have a 6TB model that "sounds" even worse. Been running it for years, no issues.

Good evening Greg from the Netherlands can i ask you a question ? I have a Asus b450m KII motherboard its the micro board what kin off cpu cooler must i use is it the AMD am4 wraith stealth cpu cooler 92 mm ? Ore maybe an other one

Hey, Greg I hope you’re okay. I have a problem with my old Sabertooth x79 motherboard . I have an intel i7-3960x processor and I want to change it for an intel i7-4960 . That’s where the problem is because the computer turn all the light up but I have no boot or beeping, I already tried 2 i7-4860 . I have the lasted bios 4801. The computer works flawless with the i7-3960x.😮 What could be wrong with? Are the 2 processors bad?

That 1660 is one that Lenovo manufactures, I have the same one.

You're curiosity just saved someone's $300 Greg you're a hero!

I agree you shouldn't think about an upgrade path too much at this price point. But I would try to avoid systems that use proprietary components. Even being able to reuse a case would help in the future. Admittedly at that price point you probably stuck with a pre built from Dell or HP or something similar. Your only other option is to buy used stuff. Might be fun to see you try to put together a budget system from ebay/facebook marketplace. A lot could be learned from it.

Adding xeon with 8 threads to this build may do ressurection.

tip for anyone who buys something this cheap load nvidia control panel go to manage 3d settings go down to max frame rate turn on and limit it to 60FPS. no matter the game you will not see over 60fps and as you seen in the GTA test it will help a lot. some game's do not have vsync or a fps cap and my way will limit them games as well including minecraft. I have my i9 12900k rtx 3080 limited to 144fps the same way because my monitor is 144hz so anymore than that is useless.

@shadowwolf3098

3 ай бұрын

i have my games hard limited to 160 fps with gsync on because my monitor tends to get gsync flicker if i go above 160hz. In games like minecraft though, i like to keep my frames unlimited because having the game locked at 160 gives me frame time spikes when i would usually have a buttery smooth 500-600 fps with no latency or spikes my default settings in most games are vsync off but using gsync to hard cap to 160

Kingfast makes okay-ish ssd:s. I've ordered a few from aliexpress and they're a fine, low cost option for testbenches. IDK about the 512gb one, but the 250gb can often be found for around 13€

I wonder what the bios settings (if any) are. Granted, I wouldn't expect much.

Wonder what kind of performance uplift you'd get from spending another $20-$40 on Ebay for a 4770 or 4790. Same TDP, both have hyper-threading so 4 core/8 thread, and the L3 cache is boosted from 6mb to 8mb? Could do a whole nother video...................

I have one upgrade which would make a pretty significant impact in gaming performance. Chuck that i5 and spend $40 or so one an i7-4770, or even better a 4790. It will have slightly higher clocks out of the gate, and the added hyperthreading can make a pretty big difference in CPU performance when gaming. It also has I created L3 cache (8MB vs 6MB). I did something similar in two of my older Haswell systems and it gave them new life. 4 cores without hyperthreading just does not as not cut it anymore.

I have a HP 6305 cause the only thing I can’t afford I was just curious since the supply is small and sucks and I can’t change it out in the case is there a case that will fit the motherboard from my computer?

Sick truck

I have hard drives from 2009 that still work. Can it be upgaded, cpu, gpu, ram?

I have an i7 2600k and a gtx 1050 , i mainly play e sports titles don't see myself upgrading and only use pc for those games and nothing else and they run pretty good ngl

There is an upgrade path - a 4c/8th xeon, and an Aliexpress RTX A2000 with the frankendrivers.

8:20 bro's just casually flexing his TRX 😂

that GPU has the power plug facing to the front! Some weird company no one ever heard of before gets it correct while the big players still put the plug facing towards the side panel...

As far as dead platforms go everyone loves AM4, I went the 2nd hand Intel B560 route and got an i3 10100, an Aurous B560M Pro AX motherboard, EVGA 600GQ, 64GB (32GB x2) DDR4 3600 Patriot Viper, Silverstone NAS case, and a couple of Optane SSD on fire sale, Oh and don't forget the ARC A380 LP from ASRock, A beast of a server/NAS for quite cheap. Even got a google TPU in the wifi slot. For Storage I went with high capacity CMR HDD's, high-capacity consumer SSDs, and mid capacity HET enterprise SSD's along with an industrial SSD, a 32GB m10 Optane and a 118GB P1600X Optane. I bought all slowly when everything was on sale or second hand/ EOL products. I can upgrade to 10 cores on the same Skylake architecture, or I can upgrade to Rocketlake with gen4 PCIE + extra lanes and AVX 512 support. Not bad for a dead platform.

Honestly this is dollar for dollar better then my first PC was as a teen if inflation is taken into account. For a teen or someone on a budget looking for a decent rig this is not a bad choice. Its usable in newer titles with some graphics fiddleing and will still rock older titles beside. For $300 you would be hard pressed to find any gaming system console or otherwise on par. Bout the only thing id be leery of is the HDD as that sounded like it was pretty close to going kerdead. And seeing as you can get a brand new 3TB drive for around $40 they shpuld have just upped the system price $20 and done that.

I laugh so loud when the video switch to you getting in your truck 😂

This one interested me specifically because I'm in the market to replace an old Inspiron 660. Knowing support for Win 10 will be ending in 2025 makes a Win 11 system the must buy in my mind. Got any opinions or feedback on that, Greg?

Even with AM4 (in Canada) a ATX board and cpu bundle is around $200. Then RAM, case, and video card and you're well over $700.

The drive is probably loud because its a data center enterprise type drive, not really meant for desktops.

@xDownSetx

3 ай бұрын

I have a slightly newer 4TB HGST Ultrastar and it is very loud indeed. It's fast and has been very reliable, but loud.

Upgrade path, 32gb of ram, better psu as this is an ATX and only needs a $20 adapter cable, it will boot off a Nvme in the pci slot using clover boot and it also will run Xeons so you can get 4 cores ,8 threads and 4ghz on turbo boost.Solid and reliable.

Those old HP systems are surprisingly stable and play games well. I have an HP 800 G1 SFF that I swapped into a new case with a larger PSU and a GT1030 (GDDR5) and I am very happy with the operation. I probably would not have swapped into another case but picked up a very nice AZZA case for $30 (tempered glass) which was a bargain.

i have a question, should i sell parts individually or as a complete build? i have a box full of new unopened pc parts that were to build a system a few years ago but i never got around to it and now the outdated (only used parts) cpu, gpu, mobo, are too dated i think for the system to be worth opening new parts and building it just to sell. USED ebay parts: cpu 1600AF, gpu rx580 8g 2 fan msi, mobo x570 wifi asus tuf, the rest are brand new still in box unopened parts from amazon and newegg. case deepcool matrexx55 v3, psu evga 650w 80+gold modular, storage kingston m.2 500g, fans 2 3pack 120mm inwin sirius loop, cpu cooler deepcool 120mm tower cooler + the stock cooler, ram 2x8 corsair vengeance?mhz. i bought everything around 2020-2021.

Easy upgrade path for this: upgrade platform entirely but keep the 1660TI, then upgrade the GPU later to accommodate the platform upgrade, simple as that.

My son is using this model of pc but it has an i7-4771 cpu and a zotac 1650 that runs off just the bus power. He plays minecraft and roblox so not very demanding. I swapped out the hard drive for a ssd and he's been content with it.

I'd be curious to see if upgrading to a 4790k would help much

Not a bad deal especially of an e-sports gamer or a younger kid wanting to play Roblox or Minecraft. Will be able to do those tasks for a few years, and it's still a pc to get work done for a job or school. Overall, not terrible maybe replace the hard drive.

Sounds like a washing machine's agitator in the spin/drain cycle !!

It would be cool to compare something like this and a used steam deck or ROG Ally for the same price.

Honestly, I thought the front RGB was really charming. It's not sleek and modern but that wouldn't fit the rig anyway. The way the front panel diffuses it almost looks like it was made for it, I agree it was a good choice. They didn't just chuck an RGB bar somewhere on the case and call it a day, some actual thought went into it. My "rig" is an Asus G551JM laptop turning 10 this year. It has an i7-4710HQ and a GTX 860M, I upgraded it from 8GB of RAM to 16GB a while ago. 128GB SSD boot drive and 1TB HDD. I think it cost over 1000€ new, but it has served me well for many years. When it started slowing down I opened it up to dust it and reinstalled Windows, started running almost good as new. I've since learned more about computers and intend to actually take apart the cooler and clean it properly and reapply new thermal paste to see if that might help it more. But I have still been regularly gaming on this, Warframe runs pretty smooth at 60fps and it does actually run BG3 on low graphics averaging around 35fps (sometimes even going up to the 75fps limit of my monitor), which I think is pretty impressive given its age. (Though in act 3 it drops to 11fps at times, but act 3 seems to have performance issues in general.) My only real gripe now is it being a laptop since the RAM and harddrive are about the only things I can upgrade, but a laptop is what I needed when I got it. All this to say, you shouldn't discount older rigs for gaming, they might surprise you. If you just want a computer that is able to run games and won't break the bank, something like this could work just fine. For $300 this is not bad at all.

Greg, did you SMART test the hdd to see how many hours and how many power cycles it had on it?

@Pasi123

3 ай бұрын

Probably a lot of hours (likely 40k+) but not many power cycles since it's an enterprise drive

Definitely a WIN baby! $300! Incredible. Pretty clean system too. Love seeing these retro's come back to life again!