Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S4:E16
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Welcome to Fix or Flop! We're up to Season 4, Episode 16. This viewer's gaming PC doesn't power on! Can it be fixed? By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.com/fix-or-flop
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@olandersnake
6 ай бұрын
Never use Better Help as a sponsor again.They are actually terrible.
@lurick
6 ай бұрын
@@olandersnake Agreed, horrible data security and protection practices to say the least!!
@JuxZeil
6 ай бұрын
Did you retry with the VRM heatsink fan connected as well as the battery?
@MrBeetsGaming
6 ай бұрын
@@olandersnake Don't tell other people what to do, if you don't like it don't use it.
@notrixamoris3318
6 ай бұрын
Greg did you find what is wrong with the motherboard???
Fix or Flop is easily my favorite PC series on KZread. The amount of knowledge you gain just from watching is priceless.
Even though replacing the motherboard is the most labor intensive, it’s certainly not the most expensive. Great find!
@shadowarez1337
6 ай бұрын
Odd I have the x570 variant of this and it does not include the USB C header.
@ObsidianSoul1
6 ай бұрын
Those mitx strix boards are usually hella expensive though
@dremy746
6 ай бұрын
Labor intensive just means it's the funnest part to replace.
@ShepherdZ22
6 ай бұрын
@@ObsidianSoul1 true, doesn’t mean he needs to replace it with another Strix board
@shadowarez1337
6 ай бұрын
@@ObsidianSoul1 don't look up the new gene board $998 if you can even find one Asus made like 12 then discontinued them they were the perfect match for a 7800x3D
In terms of contacting the seller after the fix, I think the fact that it wasn't a private seller, rather a wholesaler, so honestly, they probably wouldn't care if it was an easy fix. Them being a wholesaler they probably bought the rig for like $150 so they still probably made a profit.
I was holding my breath when you showed battery socket. I wish it would work. Another great episode. Thank you.
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@EhEhEhEINSTEIN
6 ай бұрын
I'd still try a different cmos battery before I pitched that board. Bought a 1 year old aurora r9 a couple of years ago for super cheap because it was having the most random no power/no boot issues. Bad 2032 battery.
@TheGerudan
6 ай бұрын
The seller probably tried to wipe the bios and disconnected the cable for that, I would assume.
@benjaminfphillips
6 ай бұрын
@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN Can't say I've seen a board in recent history that required a cmos battery to boot.
I bought a broken Asus ROG Strix B550-I myself not too long ago, thankfully the warranty had not been registered and ASUS honors warranty based upon original manufacture date, not original purchaser! You have a good shot at RMA’ing it
@sicario1873
6 ай бұрын
I have the same board bought from ebay and last night tried build my pc but the board isn't working how did you get RMA? If you dont mnd sharing thanks
I wonder if they buggered up a BIOS update and tried removing the CMOS battery to try and resolve it. Maybe. Still weird. Great vid Greg!
@macking104
6 ай бұрын
Asus is still supporting the board. There is a Bios update this month.
@Asriazh
6 ай бұрын
If the mainboard has a BIOS rescue mode, like updating the bios without turning the PC on, via a dedicated usb slot, maybe try that? Or, more elaborate, you could try to flash the BIOS with an external programmer. Or change the BIOS chip ^-^; Maybe not reasonable.
@forcem6587
5 ай бұрын
@@AsriazhTo update a bios from a motherboard that doesnt post .. it at least has to try booting. This one doesnt even turn on the power. Its dead Jim .. but not as we know it.
@Asriazh
5 ай бұрын
@@forcem6587Nope. on my MSI x570 board you just have to put a USB stick into a certain port while the board is off, press a button next to it for a couple of seconds and there's a seperate process not related to the board being on or booted into the BIOS which tries to recover the BIOS from a file called MSI.ROM which is the latest or whatever BIOS you renamed. No booting needed :D
@brianb6653
4 ай бұрын
@@Asriazh exactly this. You don’t even have to have a CPU installed from what I recall
It could be that the bios was bricked during an update. That board appears to support bios flashback, It wouldn’t hurt to give it a try
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Motherboards with corrupt BIOSes still power on in my experience.
@YYorle
6 ай бұрын
@@GregSalazar Might be worth a shot to try regardless, you never know. If only to have it checked off the list of stuff you've tried. We seen several times in these videos of yours how you can still be surprised sometimes and who knows, maybe some weird quentum-mechanics are at play here
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
@@YYorle You're right! I'll try to remember to check this next time.
@goopah
5 ай бұрын
I'm assuming you checked the battery itself? Although on a newer rig like this, I expect it would be fine.@@GregSalazar
@jarnom85
5 ай бұрын
All boards i have ever had will power on if they have corrupted or non-existing bios. I suspect the issue is more in lines of power button signal or power not getting to SuperIO chip that handles power buttons and example post leds, something shorted in the board that pulls all signals to oblivion of ground plane.
Hello Gregor! You bought a popcorn machine! (I secretly know its a pc)
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
LOOOL this is an excellent description of whatever this Tt case is 😂
@christiandk09
6 ай бұрын
Looks more like a 3d printer imo, but you’re very right!
@TechWithJohannes
6 ай бұрын
@@GregSalazar At least its unique lol.
@darkofoxx9544
6 ай бұрын
I have the tower 500 case and love it. my next build will be in a tower 200 case.
@BREEZYM6015
6 ай бұрын
Gregor? I didn't know how had a nickname. 😂
I was hoping that plugging in the CMOS would have worked for you. Glad that you got some working components out of this. Nice case that it came with too.
That's why it's important to have an access on spare parts. You can rule out any broken hardware easier. Thanks for the knowledge Greg!
I missed this series. Love your videos.
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for coming back!
My favorite moment.. A new fix or flop video to learn from
If the motherboard is still under warranty with the manufacturer you might as well attempt to get them to replace it as well.
@macking104
6 ай бұрын
Board is from 2020, first bios on website is June 2020…
@mrsrhardy
6 ай бұрын
warranty is from sale date on the reciept, so id used to dummy up a receipt and RMA them back. the best result was M$ dated my surfaseRT from when I REGISTERED it, the day before I RMA it and they must have wharehouses full of these old things as they sent me with in a week a new one and the old one was 10 years old!
@covante4822
6 ай бұрын
@@mrsrhardy I think he said it was a strix. Asus will warranty stuff from the serial number date if you lose your receipt.
@bothellkenmore
6 ай бұрын
@@covante4822 You can see the Strix branding next to the memory slot at 17:00
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS! Please don’t let up on the eBay listing fixes, they’re so interesting!
@bmanrockwell2174
6 ай бұрын
I agree with this, I love the fix videos and love the fix ones from eBay just as much as a viewer. Honestly the fix videos are my favorite that Greg makes.
Hey Greg, love the videos. Have you tried to use the asus bios flash back? Almost all recent asus boards have it and all you need is power to the board and a usb in a specific port on the back and it can recover from a bad flash or corrupt image. "ASUS EZ DIY -BIOS Flashback™ button -BIOS FlashBack™ LED"
@TRD_2zz
6 ай бұрын
I would do this and possibly try a CH341A BIOS flasher if RMA is unsuccessful.
Did you check the CMOS battery itself? Could it be dead?
@EhEhEhEINSTEIN
6 ай бұрын
This was my suggestion as well. Easy test and cheap to replace if it's indeed dead.
Hi Greg, I had a similar issue with an MSI B550 board. Battery voltage was 2.7V and the system won't power on. With a new battery it worked perfectly fine again.
@kelpklepto
6 ай бұрын
Yeah that was my immediate thought after seeing the cmos battery disconnected
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
@@kelpklepto We measured battery voltage at just over 3V. Not the issue here, unfortunately.
@kelpklepto
6 ай бұрын
@@GregSalazar oh, darn, yeah that board isn't worth the trouble then lol
Great fix Greg. definitely more like this. 👍
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Daniel!
@HyoukaAnalystLore3452
5 ай бұрын
? He did not fix it...
Excellent find! I am frequently watching this series for just everything i can learn about troubleshooting and diagnosing systems. I don't have IT work but we have 5 systems here at home that MIGHT break down soon. Also its entertaining to finally discover what the eff is happening to broken rigs! More power to you Greg!
I love to see working parts saved from the landfill.
If the motherboard has bios flashback you could try it. It’s worth a try.
@bmanrockwell2174
6 ай бұрын
Interesting Idea... maybe 😀
Hi Greg, have you checked the battery voltage to see if the actual CMOS 2032 battery is ok? I once had a PC that wouldn't turn on with the CMOS battery connected and it wasn't until I replaced the battery with a new one that would fix the issue. Great video as always!
@MrMannakin
6 ай бұрын
You need to do this to complete the diagnosis
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
@@MrMannakin Yes, battery voltage was measured at just over 3V. We've measured this with our multimeter in several FoF episodes - the test just doesn't always make the final cut. Will try to always include this from now on.
Great video! I am in the process of starting up a PC recycling/repair business and have gotten a lot of information and inspiration from your content! Much love. ❤
You could use the parts you "harvested" from this purchase in other FoF videos, as give-aways as you mentioned or for upgrades for family/friends. Love the series.
@goopah
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have a feeling Greg will put these parts to very good use. If I had to bet, I'd say he'll likely use every last part (except the motherboard).
The last two things I would have tried would be clearing the CMOS and trying the flash back option (if the board has the option).
Great vid. Enjoyed seeing the troubleshooting process.
great job, loving the content. this is why I watch this channel. just watching the process you use to diagnose the issues.
Loved this! Happy things turned out good in the end for you. Thank you for the content.
This was a great example of troubleshooting, and a real nice find for you. I hope your next repair benefits from your good luck.
POPCORN MACHINE LESSGOOOO great vid!!!!
I love your channel it's so relaxing watching you troubleshoot and update computers.
love your work mate and love orlando to been over to Florida many times over the years.keep up the good work.
Great episode and comeup! Keeping notes to check every component before calling quits on your pc.
I envy your luck when it comes to these finds, Greg. Nicely done.
have you checked cmos voltage? or replaced for a new one? just peel the black plastic on the original cmos, pull the terminal (spot welded on the cmos), replace a new cmos, just tape the cmos touching its respective terminal.
Great content! Hopefully you can get the board working!
Great vid! Always happy to learn with you, Greg!
Great video Greg, love the 'will it wont it?' mystery quest.
I really enjoy the troubleshooting videos thanks Greg
Is it possible that one of the owners disconnected the CMOS battery in an attempt to reset the BIOS config? If it's assumed they were disconnecting the power switch cables in an attempt to troubleshoot, it seems reasonable they would reset the CMOS battery. Although it doesn't make sense why they wouldn't reconnect the CMOS battery before giving up on it. Unless they tried another CMOS battery?
@mrsrhardy
6 ай бұрын
Might be a bad BIOS flash
I really love this kind of video, always a treat to see you investigate and in this case to put a gamble on an online buy !
Love the series! Please continue with it. Cheers!
So hype, another idea I'll have to try in the future. Thanks for the vids, always lots to learn for troubleshooting.
Great result Greg, love fix and flop video's, but I wonder did you check the battery voltage? Or tried a known working battery?
Great video Gregg! Fix or flop is definitely my favorite series.
21:39 Toss a coin to your Fixer, Lolz
You walked into Vegas with $500, walked out with $700-800 and parts to spare on different test builds/videos. A Net profit if there ever was one in this industry. Great video as usual, GS 👍🏼 Oh, and a nice tempered glass container, too. Or whatever that thing is 😅
Previous owner had trouble with it powering on so they probably pulled that CMOS battery cable out of the motherboard to try & clear it just like why the CPU cooler was loose to check for bent pins or debris. Then they gave up & put it on Ebay to cut their losses. Nehoo ya that was a good pickup Greg. You quite possibly turned a fix or flop into a future flip. Congrats on this little gem of a find & thanks for sharing. :)
@martym-sd7qr
6 ай бұрын
Was about to make the same comment about the seller pulling the CMOS battery connector to clear setting. I would say given how other connectors were left disconnected this seems to be the obvious scenario.
Another great video i was watching that exact pc for a project but it went higher than i wanted to spend crazy
Love these fix it videos!! Also, I love that case. Built one for my sister and she turned it into a claw machine theme. Also, It had similar components.
I have on a few occasions gotten very lucky with different companies RMA process. Often times only a small charge is applied if it's out of warranty, other times they just send a brand new one or equivalent , it never hurts to try. Great video and great score with that 3070 working.
Greg’s been hitting that late night EBay search as of late for sure, lol. Love the content as always!
I really enjoy these videos, so please do not give up on them. All your various series I find very enjoyable Greg. Thanks!
I like this kind of episode as a possible "parts harvesting" episode for fix or flop. One at the beginning, middle and near end of each season would be cool. I doubt you will get very many like this. But even a few working parts per episode might be worth it.
keep up with the good work, mate honestly liking the switching up of content with some variation, always keeps things fresh and exciting
@bmanrockwell2174
6 ай бұрын
Yes variety is very nice
Great video, shame you didn't get it to work and here is an idea, if possible try to use an IR camera when trying to start the motherboard looking for hot spots for shorts, maybe if that is fixed, the motherboard could be fixed that way, keep up the great work.
Great buy! I was waiting in anticipation for what you would find to fix it.
Very nice. Great and lucky buy for you. I went and bought a RX 6800 on Monday. Loving the card.
Great find Greg. Since I am cursed with curiosity, I wish you would have measured the CMOS battery's voltage on camera just for fun. Please keep up Fix or Flop. Love it!
Nice win, I am sure the parts will end up in a viewers broken PC soon enough. Keep up the good work.
Nice find! I have watched your videos almost as soon as you posted them, but for some reason I didn't get them in my feed in the last month or so. Hopefully now I'm gonna get them cuz I binge watched like 6 videos :D
Great PC troubleshooting video!
Man that CMOS moment was fun lol Great find and Great vid! Thanks!
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
I love these types of videos because you show what is wrong as well as what could be wrong. As well as the financial aspect of it.
Awesome video! What do you personally do with the bad computer parts?
congrats. good find/repair
22:17 may fortune ever be in your favor... nice vid congrats on being lucky and thanks for the informative content
Love this serie, you can connect a speaker in the motherboard for the beep codes, also you can clean the connectors with alcohol
Good catch on the CMOS battery. Makes me want to surf eBay more for deals like these! Also, if you want to repurpose the Tower 200 a m-ATX board should fit in there even though TT doesn't list those as compatible.
Its incredible how you can keep the audience excited to wait the result, as for me tho. Great series! subbed!
Always looking forward to watching your videos right before bedtime ☺️ Much love 🙌♥️
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@chubajamir2343
6 ай бұрын
@@GregSalazar every single one 😍👏 God bless you you to bless us with more of your videos
Love your channel bud. You've inspired me to build my own gaming rigs.
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
Love your videos just waiting for your new entry to series.
I just noticed KZread stopped recommending me your videos. I’m glad I have lots of videos to catch up on haha.
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
Welcome back!
Nice find Greg, especially with that 3070 too! Also is that a Datejust 41 I see👀
Been there and done that. Sometimes it's totally worth it to roll the dice. Recently got an Asrock X570 phantom gaming 4 motherboard for 25 dollars including shipping on Ebay and it works aside from missing the cooling fan on the southbridge heat sink. Cut the frame off a 40mm fan and used 2 sided tape to stick the fan on and it fit perfectly. It has a new home in my htpc atm.
Great find
keep up the good work. really enjoy your content
I actually really like this case. Great find Greg.
You hit the jackpot! What a find!
Loved the Ayrton's helmet at the back.
You could most likely RMA that motherboard. I did just do that last week. Got a motherboard, did not work, I knew that, I did however load the bios flash, just dead after that. Put in an RMA ticket with MSI and was supposed to get it back today, but you know less than one snow flock and all deliveries are stopped. Hoping for tomorrow. See I paid nothing for the board, paid 25 for RMA (I had to pay to send it in, fair enough). Board is repaired, I think they just stuffed a new board in the box or it is a common issue.
Fun change up of the F or F formula, love these videos.
Is that battery connector definitely keyed? It most likely is but I wondered if it wasn’t and it just needed to be tried the other way round? Probably not but might be worth a quick look/try? Great video as always!!!
did you get a chance to do a stability test on the gpu and cpu? Good find and great video!!
I hope you do more videos like this, obviously it would be expensive as heck to do it often.... but once in a blue moon, maybe a mini series idea?
@bligh1156
6 ай бұрын
Well, it cost nothing here, a 3070, 5600X, RAM, PSU and case for 500 bucks + monetization of video? There is risk, yeah, but certainly not "expensive" so far, he'd be on the positive side on this one.
That's a for sure steal.... great find!!!
Really cool tower. Maybe a future re-purpose or donor build. Great video
Excellent content as always, Greg! Great PC parts and most of all, nice watch.😉
@GregSalazar
5 ай бұрын
Thanks again!
Nice vid mate, I'd do a forced power on using an old power supply bypassing the pins.
Subscribed to the channel, came across a few days ago watching vids about pc fans lol. Seems like cool vibes all around. Looking forward to more
@GregSalazar
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate it!
Gambling Greg 😄living on the edge ..love it
a great episode. thanks for sharing.
Good stuff Greg!
Great find, you lucked out on this one!
Good stuff man!
this was interesting. It made me wonder how many dead mobos ive had actually had a cmos battery issue. i cant recall more than once finding a dead battery on a board, even after sitting for years. i wonder if a dead battery would be enough to cause a power on fail? really good video!
Amazing find!
Hey Greg, great video! Have you tried a different CMOS battery? Not the first time an almost perfect one tricks me. Also, did you check the Clear CMOS jumper?