I am tired of manufacturers offering models that are not really available and the few they build are nowhere near the advertised price.

@noeno00

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a bronco sport this week and that’s exactly what happened. Not to mention the mavericks marked up 50%…

@park171

2 жыл бұрын

On of the issues is the sales managers seem to order what they think that sells. They buy cars from the manufacture optioned out but they don’t reflect the build on the manufactures website.

@Channel-gz9hm

2 жыл бұрын

@@park171 hey I know what would solve that. An "order here" form on Ford's website where I tick the boxes I want and they deliver me what I ordered at the price agreed upon. Wow! Incredible.

@GreenBlueWalkthrough

2 жыл бұрын

@@Channel-gz9hm Oh even better find the good dealer who give you discounts even uin bqd times... Like I got 9K off a Mustang and only paid exactly the legal requerment for out the door stuff from a dealer here in Flordia march of 2021.. My sister got $1k an Rav4 hybrid from another dealer.

@Channel-gz9hm

2 жыл бұрын

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough I don't know how being badgered by a dealer and go through dozens of hoops and mind games would be easier than putting in your loan info on ford's website and setting a delivery date but you do you. What I want is options. I want to order off of Ford's website and not have to talk to a single agent. You want to go to a dealer and have their free donuts then by all means.

33k miles on my 22 tuscon hybrid (non plug in) and its been an absolutely fantastic vehicle with no complaints. from city to cross country use its been solid, other than the highway mpg not as advertised at speeds over 60/65 since freeways are generally 70-75. space has been fantastic, 6ft tall people in the back never complain, and it gets TONS of compliments from people. bang for the buck this is a great buy. Its a great place to be for extended times. even the base model audio system is very adequate and perfectly good for probably most people. The regular hybrid tuscon can fit a full size steel wheel and tire mounted to it under the false floor, as well as a real floor jack (small 1.5 ton harbor freight one) tire chocks, and some wood, and even more crap. i did it in mine...plenty of room. you will need something to raise the jack and a jack pad extention to get the car off the ground with said jack. i have a king sized comforter under the tire and all along the floor to prevent noises with all the other stuff i keep in there. negatives. the stock floormats are total trash. for the same price get TUXMAT they are the best floor mats i have ever used and dont look cheap at all, and go incredibly perfectly with the tuscon materials inside. HVAC...AC is an icebox, heat is really hot...HOWEVER...you have to get setting on 79-80 for it to start feeling hot...and to get the right temp its hit or miss....this system is really the 2 extremes with not much sweet spot in the middle....super cold or really hot. and heat does cut out if using EV too much. the roof racks....NOISY AF! i took mine off the second day owning the car. waste of money. slight wind noise on drivers door at highway speeds especially more when its windy. infotainment on non navigation model i have lacks features and customability...nothing major tho. i found andriod auto to cut out a lot. not sure if it was my phone, the cable (tried 2 cables) or the audio system itself....didnt care as i only used it on cross county trip anyways. bluetooth for audio works awesome. coming from euro cars for over a decade, im very impressed and for the money im blown away with it.

@Alexanderonline

Жыл бұрын

Agree, have the 22 Tucson hybrid (non plugin) as well and don’t regret it at all. The extra ‘boost’ and instant acceleration from the electric motor is very nice. I’m very impressed with the smooth switching between electric and gas, can hardly hear it The hybrid has a very good value for money, for example the large sunroof which on the non-hybrid is only available in the Limited trim

And available at only $15,000 over MSRP what a steal!

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidehide1 Some of us know perfectly well what we're buying. I've had a Hyundai for a decade without any major problems, and would happily buy another. Consumer Reports rates their brand reliability as above average, if below Toyota. Then again, they also tend to coat less than Toyotas.

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidehide1 They’ve been “improving” since 2010 and I still don’t see any difference in the build quality.

@theairstig9164

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidehide1 it’s a point just not a good one. Buy one in four years after the recalls start and the bugs are ironed out. Not V2G is a non starter for me

@HewroPreez

2 жыл бұрын

shop around, and dont give the price-gouging dealerships any business. I was able to find one without a markup a few months ago; happy w/ the car

My neighbor has a Santa Fe, and it is very good looking in person.

For just my wife and I, we love our 2022 Tucson PHEV. Just wish it had 4 way lumbar support. Thx Alex...

I love the buttons!

The sliding back seat was a real gem. Thanks and God bless,

Love the outtake!

Great review, thanks!

Your rear head must be proud of your front head lol. As always, very nice review! Looking forward to the battery comparison on these.

I really love the integrated infotainment layout and interior of the Tucson as well as the exterior styling and that's why I bought and love my Tucson AWD Hybrid. Most of these newer cars look like they just stuck a big old tablet on top of the dash and I never got into that awkward look

i think both are great. For me the Santa Fe would be my pick. I am used its size more. But my the Tucson has gotten bigger. The room is the attraction for me in the Santa Fe. Hyundai has really done so much for their vehicles. It is good times if you want choice and an alternative to the Toyota Rav 4 for instance.

Lots of good information! thanks

My big issue with every phev I've looked at, they're like "oh, you get a tax credit for this, we'll just raise the price by the amount of the tax credit." I own a Santa fe now, not quite big enough for me to transport my hockey bag without putting down the second row. I might give this new one a try though, I was going to look into the sorrento.

@GreenBlueWalkthrough

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah those are just bad dealers... keep looking and you'll find a good one eventually.

@srfeger

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a lot of truth to that. Average markups right now on the the Santa Fe PHEV limited are around $3k (which is what we paid) and markups on the Tucson PHEV appear to be around $2k. Compare that to the Santa Fe Hybrid where the markup is closer to $1k - $1300. I hate it, but when you consider that the tax credit is getting you the bigger battery and plug-in capability, you’re really paying $1,500 more than you would if you just went with the hybrid. The credit really is the price of the plug-in capability. The rest is the same, generally speaking.

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

I’d consider a different manufacturer altogether, TBH.

@raleedy

2 жыл бұрын

The tax credits are intended to subsidize the manufacturer, not the buyer.

@5DollarHoller

2 жыл бұрын

It's a customer issue as much as a dealer issue. The financial prowess of America is really on display (/s). People paying thousands overmarkup... the soonest you might sell is 3 years from now and by then the industry will be back to normal. All that cash over MSRP you might as well have set on fire. On the other hand, if people refused to pay markups, dealers would have to sell at MSRP.

Very informative

Loving the designs of both.

Santa Fe hybrid is definitely my pick

Would love to see your Head to Head on Tucson PHEV vs Sportage PHEV

Excellent overview of both. We bought the Santa Fe PHEV in late February. We love the comfort, love the car. The two biggest "flaws" for us were both mentioned which shows how thorough Alex is on these reviews. The first is the lack of a Calligraphy trim in the PHEV. The interior colors are bland to be polite. Would have much preferred the Calypso Red exterior and the Coquina Beige Nappa leather, but you can't get that in the PHEV. You also miss out on the improved interior lighting (important in a dark black interior) and the HUD. The second is the slower charger in the Santa Fe PHEV. Honestly, plugging in the Santa Fe outside of the home is kinda pointless unless you really have a long time to stay plugged in. I don't find it to be practical. But home charging is certainly fine. One suggestion for the full review of the Santa Fe PHEV that no one points out.... put it in Sport mode and tell me there's not a significant difference over Eco or Smart mode. The car has some real punch in sport mode. It's so quick off the line. You may not go 0-60 in 5 seconds, but you're getting to that next stop light super quick (LOL). Granted, your fuel economy is going to drop considerably. But it's pretty nice when you want more responsiveness. That was a nice surprise. Also, it charges the battery quickly when you do that (not fuel smart, but if you wanted battery power for some reason later in a trip, that's the way you do it). With regard to the Tucson, we looked at it too and it's really nice. Ultimately, the price was so close for both vehicles (at that price range) that it just made more sense for the extra space and comfort in the Santa Fe. We relied heavy on our purchasing decision from Alex's earlier review of the Santa Fe hybrid. It was spot on when we did our shopping.

@jsfbay1

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the detailed response. So wait - are you saying the Hyundai Santa Fe PHEV does *NOT* have a HUD, but the Tucson does? Somehow I missed that in the reviews. That's a big issue for me, and I appreciate you pointing it out. Assuming I'm interpreting what you said correctly.

@srfeger

2 жыл бұрын

@@jsfbay1 I was only saying that you can’t get a Heads-Up Display on the Santa Fe PHEV because that feature only comes in the Calligraphy Trim and there is no Calligraphy Trim sold for the PHEV version of the Santa Fe (or the Hybrid version). If you wanted the HUD, you would need to purchase a Santa Fe with a different engine. That said, I went and looked just now and there is no HUD available on the Tucson in any trim with any engine type (at least here in the North American market). Hope that helps.

@jsfbay1

2 жыл бұрын

@@srfeger - Okay, thanks very much for that information. I sure hope they do a PHEV Caligraphy! I need that HUD!

@leppard98

2 жыл бұрын

We bought our Santa Fe Calligraphy during the height of the pandemic. Wife was insistent on the Red with Beige interior, which is an awesome color combo. We placed a deposit and had to wait about 4 months for it to arrive. I also have a Chevy Volt PHEV and would have loved the PHEV Santa Fe, but as mentioned, no Calligraphy trim. As for the above mentioned SPORT mode, I know for a fact on the PHEV Chevy Volt, when putting in Sport mode, it does absolutely nothing to car performance, all it does is remap the accelerator pedal. It certainly feels much faster, but that is due to the faster response from the pedal. I don't know if that would be the same on the Santa Fe.

@srfeger

2 жыл бұрын

@@leppard98 I’m jealous, great choice. Question for you. What do you think of the dual clutch transmission? I was not comfortable with it. Not based on any experience, but more gut. I live in a suburb, but traffic never gets better and the stop-and-go traffic I thought would not be helpful with a DCT? But I also didn’t know anyone who had one. Tell me what you think. My brother is looking at the Santa Fe as well, but maybe not the PHEV or Hybrid. That would put him in your camp.

7.2kWh charge power for Tucson gives me a clear answer, thank you so much for the vital info.

My family bought a Santa Fe plug in hybrid. They love the car but the 3 kilowatt charger is pretty disappointing

I've looked at a bunch of small and midsize SUVs and decided on the Santa Fe PHEV. If I can ever get one. No word yet on when more will be available in Canada. Anyway, it has the combination of tech, comfort, ride, power and fuel economy I'm looking for.

@Mosern1977

2 жыл бұрын

Just so you are aware, it heats cabin by the petrol engine only. So you can pretty much forget running short trips on electricity during winter time and you have to wait for the engine to get warm to get any cabin heating. Major downer in cold climate. (I'm from Norway, but I guess Canada is at least as cold).

looks good

Спасибо, хороший обзор!

PHEVs are the way to go.

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, at least for the transition to better battery technology. It offers the best of both worlds by giving owners the option for EV for short trips/commutes and ICE for long road trips or rural living.

@Mgoblagulkablong

2 жыл бұрын

no

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

For many people they make sense, especially people with a moderate commute.

@Gooftroop45

2 жыл бұрын

EV from home for the slight savings and being green, easy to find and fast to refill gas for long drives.

Was that tommy from TFL in the background?

It would be nice if they could put that hybrid system in the santa cruz

I like your red shoes mr. Cameraman. 🤓

Had my Santa fe phev for 6 weeks now. Last two weeks of daily driving and commuting and I got 100mpg!

Santa Fe front grill looks really lovely design wise. I wonder, is it just me, or anyone else thinks there are at least three design teams on every recent Hyundai vehicle? Front (new design), back (5yo design), sides everything has a different design glued together.

Thanks for this. I've been trying to decide between these for my next purchase. Are the rear sills the same size for loatding, and do the rear seats fold flat in both of them? Also, do you know when they'll be sold in all 50 states? The Hyundai website shows them only being offered in certain states.

@bfish9700

2 жыл бұрын

Flat-ish. I'm an ice hockey goalie and ride around in the santa fe with my second row folded about 50% of the time.

@911aaron

2 жыл бұрын

I have the 2022 Santa Fe PHEV. its almost flat. there definitely is a small angle. Flat enough for me to sleep on folded down though.

Does the gasoline engine have a dual fuel injection system like a Toyota or port fuel injection and run on the Atkinson cycle?

Is the battery capacity the same between these two PHEV models?

With vehicle plugged in, Can we turn on in-cabin heat without running engine ? Like you mentioned for chyrsler Pacifica plug-in hybrid.

@Mosern1977

2 жыл бұрын

No you cannot. There is no electric heater. Cabin heating is from the petrol engine, like a normal petrol car. Makes it impossible to run these on electricity only on winter (turning on the heater, will turn on the petrol engine). It also prevents them from preheating while parked. (You can remote turn on the engine with the key-fob, and as with any petrol car, when it has idled long enough, warm air starts flowing). So I would not recommend these if you live in a cold climate, and drive a lot of short trips, hoping to do those on electricity.

Wish they were available in TX.

Absolutely baffled by the difference in AC charging both here and across the industry. The last Chevrolet Volt should have been equipped the Bolt AC charger from the get go. Why does the Pacifica Hybrid fully charge in nearly half the time as Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV? The BMW X5 xDrive40e should absolutely charge 2 times faster. The sweet little Honda Accord plug-in hybrid was done in 60 minutes, but MINI Countryman SE is almost 3 hours. Strange.

I suspect they don't make the EPA numbers on the highway. Could you test this and let us know?

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

tuscon hybrid 30-32 on highway doing 70-75. 27ish doing 80mph. 60-65mph will get you pretty close to epa estimate of 37. this was tested by me on a 2500 mile one way trip across the usa in mine. at temps below 30F, i got as low as 19mpg at the highest above noted speeds and averaged about 22mpg at 75. once above freezing it was consistent for 30-32mpg.

Is there any kind of pull-out shade panel for the moon roof?

@airstreamc8748

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and it is powered.

@Alex Please start discussing auxiliary power in hybrid/PHEV reviews. Very few reviewers do, but this is the #1 factor in car camping. For example in a Prius you can use climate control or plug anything into the aux power and the engine kicks on in as-needed cycles, but not true in the Tundra. Some hybrids turn off after a period of time or otherwise don't allow climate control when the engine is off. Some kill the 12v. Most hybrids and PHEVs work well for car camping but it's very difficult to know which ones. A simple thumbs up/down on whether or not the electrical design supports car camping would be great. I know the RAV4 and Escape PHEVs are good for it, not sure about Tucson & Santa Fe.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

That's a complicated question, as so much depends on what you expect to power. I grew up sleeping in the back of a station wagon without needing any auxiliary power. My brother still does in his minivan. It all depends on what you expect to be powering from the car. On the whole Hyundai/Kia has been good about powering external devices, but I'm sure they vary by model.

@911aaron

2 жыл бұрын

I have the 2022 Santa Fe PHEV and I've gone car camping a few times with it. I take my car for hiking, backpacking, camping, rock climbing, snowboarding, fishing, etc. This is from the perspective of a weekend warrior car camper that mostly goes with my girlfriend. Here some of my thoughts and notes on it: 1) The heater and a/c will kick on the engine at about a consistent 1500rpm until you turn climate control off, so if you are hoping to run climate control all night off just the battery, that is not the case. 2) There is one auxiliary power outlet in the front by the drivers knee and one in the rear trunk on the passenger side. Both support up to 180W. Car must be turned on at least to auxiliary power mode to use either cigarette ports. 3) From my understanding (I may be wrong on this one), using the auxiliary power outlet drains the 12v Battery. As the 12v Battery starts to get low, the EV battery will transfer its energy to the 12v to keep it topped off. If the EV battery gets really low than the engine will kick on to power the battery. To be honest, never really tested this aspect of the car and pushed it to it's limit because I mostly use my portable power station for my electrical needs, but this is what I gathered from reading other people's comments and reading the owner's manual. Maybe I'll more thoroughly test this part of my car during the summer. 4) As Alex mentioned, it is a gas mitigation PHEV meaning that as you drive, even in EV mode, it will still use a small quantity of gas. On the flip side if you wanted to drive just pure gasoline, that is not possible either. The best it can do is Hybrid mode, which will use some electrical battery throughout the drive. If I am trying to conserve battery to save for camp, I will drive in hybrid mode and through electrical regen I will get to the campground with fairly close to the original battery %. Of course depends a lot on how far you drive, how much downhill there is, traffic, etc. Generally, don't expect to still have all of your battery once you reach the camp area. 5) It folds down flat enough where you don't really need a build/install a platform. I just fold down the back chairs, put my sleeping pad on, and my bed is ready. 6) I'm 6'2 195lbs and my gf is 5'2 and we sleep in there comfortably without bumping into each other width wise. Length wise, the front chair needs to be slightly scoot up to accommodate my height, but with my gf so short, her passenger seat usually is scooted up enough where I don't need to adjust anything for bedtime. 7) When sitting up straight in the trunk, crossed leg, without the sleeping pad, my head barely grazes the roof. Makes it nice when trying to change clothes in the car. 8) I can keep some car camping items like my sleeping bag permanently in the under compartment (2:33), aka I can have a trunk that looks clean/empty while still carrying certain camping items. 9) Rolling down the windows to sleep, but leaving the sunshade up (10:09) is useful. 10) Only way to open the trunk from the inside is to pull the emergency lever. Overall, I like my car for car camping/outdoor adventures. Lots of cargo space for all my gear. Lays flat enough where I don't need to build fancy platforms, which makes it a lot easier to convert it from weekend warrior/car camping mode to city/regular life mode. Fuel economy is pretty decent for it's size for long road trips; with current California gas prices ($5.75) I can drive about 350 miles for about $60. There's a spare tire on the underside of the car, which gives peace of mind in the backcountry. AWD is helpful when going up icy mountains. Seems like your primary concern is auxiliary power usage for car camping, which I can't give you the exact best answer. I'll try to test for you in the coming weeks and let you know my findings. Send me a reminder if I forget.

@myfitfootsnug5455

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 What's hard about it? Some hybrids use the hybrid system to provide aux power (so the engine only powers on a fraction of the time, to replenish the battery as needed) and other hybrid systems require the gas engine be on at all times. For example, in a Prius you can plug a 100-watt heater in and the engine will only kick on for about 30 seconds every 10 minutes, but in the new Tundra hybrid the engine would run full time. I'm not sure about the details of how the electrical systems differ but it really just boils down to "does the engine need to be running for climate control & aux power?" -- to which the answer is sometimes yes and sometimes no even across the lineup of the same manufacturer.

@myfitfootsnug5455

2 жыл бұрын

@@911aaron Thanks, perfect. That rules out the Santa Fe PHEV for me -- no overnight climate control. The Ford Escape PHEV and RAV4 PHEV both offer climate control. Unfortunate because the Escape PHEV isn't AWD and the RAV4 PHEV is too hard to find for a fair price.

One is bigger the other is smaller but knows how to use it. Which should I choose?

We just got the santa fe. Amazing but remember folks its not a race car..😂

Well you did it, that is in one take........more or less.

As long as both my rear head and front head is comfortable, Santa Fe would be my choice too! Lol

Not enough EV range for me to be interested. I'm looking for 50+ miles.

I love the styling of the new Tucson but would really like a word with whoever at Hyundai thought its rear end turn signal location was a good idea.

@edwardbaker1331

Жыл бұрын

I followed one and surprisingly found it more noticeable since it was in an unusual location down low. Maybe they researched it.

@124thDragoon

6 ай бұрын

@@edwardbaker1331(I realize this is an awkwardly late reply) I’ve been behind a dozen or so at this point, and I feel that the turn signals’ placement makes especially poor sense in a state like the one I live in (Texas), where lots of people own trucks, and nearly all of our daily goods are delivered by tall 18-wheelers. Especially in stop-and-go traffic, the turn signals are low enough to be easily missed. I wish they’d have integrated them into the “Ford Mustang-esque” taillights, or have implemented them as vertical pillar shapes in the D pillars. Both options would have allowed them to remain functional with the lift gate open, which has been the reasoning given by Hyundai for their abnormally low placement.

Very important (that was briefly mentioned) is that these cars do not have electric heaters. Heating of the cabin is via the petrol engine only! Meaning if you live in a colder climate and you travel short distances a lot, you will not be able to run on anything but petrol and will have a cold car until engine gets warm. To a large degree reducing the point of having a PHEV in the first place. It also prevents the app from preheating the car (only way is to remote-start the engine with the key-fob, guzzling petrol while it idles to heat up the cabin). So I think Hyundai dropped the ball there, but if you live in more temperate climates, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

the heater in the tuscon does cut out when using hybrid mode for too long...its a bit annoying. and the heater doesnt seem to feel hot unless you put the temp at about 79.

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

Can instantly tell you live in a colder climate... you're not from the US... no American would ever say "Petrol Engine". FYI, that's how the Nazi spies dressed as American GI's operating behind American lines during the Battle of the Bulge got caught... they asked some Americans where they can get "Petrol" for their Jeep... No American says PETROL... HANDS UP NAZIS!

@Mosern1977

Жыл бұрын

@@wolfshanze5980 - correct. I'm from Northern Europe :)

What’s the EV range of the 2 PHEVs?

@zaataravi

2 жыл бұрын

Tucson is 33, Santa Fe is 31.

I'd get the Tucson PHEV today at MSRP or below. Unfortunately, very few are available and they are all marked up. The RAV4 Prime is more efficient on the highway and has a stronger electric motor with a longer electric only range. The Hyundais will kick the engine on when the pedal is pressed far enough. Still, the Tucson PHEV is less expensive than the Prime.

@fr373969

2 жыл бұрын

I think Prime have a more robust driving system, plus to Toyota's reputation on hybrid; Hyundai's turbo + plug in hybrid is way more complex, but with current Prime's crazy markup (10k) and even less premium overall interior, Santa Fe is still a very attractive option if it is available in your state

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

the gas pedal DEFINTELY could use better range settings to keep EV on longer. it is also adaptive to your driving habits too. when im agressive it doesnt kick on EV as oftern and my MPG will suffer down to 33. but when im messing with the pedal more often, ill get to 39-43mpg. it def is adaptive in some way.

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

You think the Tucson PHEV is hard to find and marked up over the MSRP? You must not be shopping for a Rav4 Prime then... they are twice as hard to find and twice as marked up over MSRP!

@DavidDLee

Жыл бұрын

@@wolfshanze5980 They sure do. However, now it makes even less sense to get a Prime, since it lost all of its tax rebate and even the MSRP continues to creep up.

So lets do the math on it Tucson SEL trim hybrid vs non-hybrid cost difference MSRP price is roughly about $5250, that includes all the rebates on the hybrid. Now lets take the avg mpg for non-hybrid @ lets say 30mpg combined city(26) / hwy(33) (just rough estimates) with gas @ $4 a gallon you can drive 39K miles on the cost difference alone. if gas is $6 a gallon its 26K miles. Just something to consider. Also factor in the cost of the extra $5k in interest if your doing a loan etc. So after you drive off all that extra money spent on the hybrid your only getting 38mpg vs 30mpg in the non hybrid, 8 mpg more doesn't seem like that much really. Plus battery degradation over time so will it always be getting 38mpg in 2 or 3 years time ??? I guess if you feel you can only use the battery all the time that might be better but still not feeling it!!!!! Seems like a tough choice, really depends on how you drive and the millage you do every year. I think non hybrid might be the better choice. If you keep it long enough then the hybrid will more than likely save you some cash with the extra 8mpg over time, but wow that's going to take a long time. Dont forget that the hybrid cost to run 39k miles @ 38mpg @ $4 per gallon is $4100. So to drive the hybrid 39k miles you save $1150 in gas @ $4 a gallon vs non hybrid. So that means it will break even on the MSRP price difference @175,000 miles. Of course if gas is more or less this changes a little. @ $6 a gallon its 125,000 miles.

Does it have spare tire ? Thanks

@Talerigm

2 жыл бұрын

In all Santa Fe, regardless of drivetrain, spare tire mount is outside, beneath the trunk floor. As far as I know, hybrids come without a spare, but at least you have the mount and can buy an aftermarket one

@sftech9215

2 жыл бұрын

Santa Fe, Yes. Tuscon, No

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

he regular hybrid tuscon can fit a full size steel wheel and tire mounted to it under the false floor, as well as a real floor jack (small 1.5 ton harbor freight one) tire chocks, and some wood, and even more crap. i did it in mine...plenty of room.

Wish the engines weren’t GDI. Had to replace the cylinder head on my Honda GDI engine at only 90k miles because of carbon buildup. Without port injection, there’s nothing to clean the valves. With a PHEV, the lower engine use won’t allow it to warm up enough on short trips. Why not the dual injection engine or a port injection engine like competitors do with their hybrids?

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

Better buy a Toyota if you want the engine to last.

@MASTERNC

2 жыл бұрын

@@moloono1 that’s what I bought

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MASTERNC Congrats, that’s awesome! What did you get?

@MASTERNC

2 жыл бұрын

@@moloono1 RAV4 Hybrid

@moloono1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MASTERNC Great choice! I hope you enjoy your RAV4.

I've been waiting for one I ordered over seven months and they're saying they I still need to wait longer and they may cancel it because they not be made. Or it will change to a 2023 and costs more. I feel disappointed that I waiting so long and still not getting the car I ordered...

@shichynwang

Жыл бұрын

Today is my 1 yr anniversary of waiting on Tucson PHEV... 🤣, And counting

Towing Capacity?

@policyguy3103

2 жыл бұрын

Only 2,000 lbs from what I can tell.

To bad you can’t buy one… been trying to buy a new car for 6 months… nothing to buy

hyundai suck a lot recently...you order a car in november 2021,and as it is,now in the end of may,the car is not even on the car factory lines...and it end in june....good job hyundai...good job...

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

Lol... ya, waiting list for Toyota Rav4 Prime IS EVEN LONGER! Good job Toyota.

I love Hyundai designs but a I’m so tired of them placing the turn signals so low. It has to be some type of safety risk

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

Why? They are almost never blocked where they are.

@nothere572

2 жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 Theyre blocked much more often than any turn signals in an actual good spot

@airstreamc8748

Жыл бұрын

It is a Fed requirement that if the tail gate is open you still must be able to see the turn signals.

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

The safety risk is SOMEONE TAILGATING YOU SO CLOSE THEY CAN'T SEE YOUR BUMPER... that's the fault of the other driver, not your car.

The storage spaces and buttons layout are quite terrible

Front grille language on new cars is becoming offensive… Crikey!

I never understand why you go on about tyre make as this will change depending on what deal the factory has done with supplier at time of production. They do not stick with one brand unless they have asked for a tyre to be designed for the car .

Love the vehicles, but every Hyundai and Kia dealer was charging 5-7k over msrp. Toyota and Honda told me they wouldn’t charge over msrp

@Andrew-fm4jk

2 жыл бұрын

What Toyota and Honda dealerships are you working with? I'm getting $3k plus markups on those around me.

@thumbprintgraphic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew-fm4jk Naperville, Il Here is what they said to me back in May 2022: "Toyota is not currently accepting orders. All of the remaining 2022 RAV4 Hybrids we will receive will go to people already on the waitlist. While we are selling all of our new vehicles at MSRP."

@thumbprintgraphic

2 жыл бұрын

For Honda, Rock County Honda in Illinois selling at MSRP. Sales person is Tim Thompson.

@thumbprintgraphic

2 жыл бұрын

Just got a 2022 Ford Escape SEL Hybrid at MSRP. Nothing more tacked on.

Too bad these are only available in eleven states

@pendeltonthecook

2 жыл бұрын

Thats the big kick in the nuts for me. Id love to move from my tucson HEV to a PHEV but even if I grab one in another state, theres no telling how any service or warranty would work out back in my home state that doesnt sell it.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@pendeltonthecook Then maybe encourage your state legislators to adopt tougher fuel mileage standards, because those are the states getting these.

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

@@markmiller3279 It has nothing to do with fuel mileage standards. It has everything to do with infrastructure... those 11 States btw, also have (BY FAR) the highest taxes of all the states... they can stick their taxes where the sun don't shine... I'll just buy a standard Hybrid, ty (and I did, F-California and their crazy taxes).

Hello, how can i contact you about the business cooperation?

First thing you do after purchase is remove the stupid speaker. I know the back is opening, i pushed the button

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

the backup speaker is annoying AF

New Tucson got so big it can actually challenge the Santa...lol.

not having a spare tire is a sin

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

the regular hybrid tuscon can fit a full size steel wheel and tire mounted to it under the false floor, as well as a real floor jack (small 1.5 ton harbor freight one) tire chocks, and some wood, and even more crap. i did it in mine...plenty of room.

No spare tire, no deal.

@911aaron

2 жыл бұрын

There is a spare tire on the underside of the car for the 2022 santa fe PHEV. idk about the tuscon tho

@baldisaerodynamic9692

2 жыл бұрын

he regular hybrid tuscon can fit a full size steel wheel and tire mounted to it under the false floor, as well as a real floor jack (small 1.5 ton harbor freight one) tire chocks, and some wood, and even more crap. i did it in mine...plenty of room.

Nope!

@maga6319

2 жыл бұрын

cant afford it

Way too far forward head rests on front seats. Yuk.

Wait, did you say you were in Nashville? Tennessee? That's not even a state they're sold in. Hyundai's phevs are only currently sold in the 11 zero emission states. Not sure why you (or no KZread reviewers for that matter) ever mention that about these phevs. The Rav4 Prime and NX450h+ are also mostly sold in ZEV states too. It's time you guys start stating that when reviewing phevs, which ones are available where.

I wouldn't buy any of these. If you go on Kia and Hyundai Instagram pages or likewise the comments are full of folks with defected cars and the company and dealers being awful for them. I will never risk buying a Korean car. They sure do look cool tho.

Plugin made no sense its 20k more expensive then just petrol and 10k more expensive then hybrid. Someone living in city area it would take for ever to get money back in savings. Electricity price is going up fast now that more evs are coming I'm not sure that it would ever safe the money. Its just way too expensive to buy. Evs are same price and I get it they have expensive battery pack under the car the plugin has obly 1/4 of the packs of full EV.

I think the RAV4 Prime does the PHEV thing better, it’s more efficient, it has more power and more range which is important in PHEV. Although the Hyundai twins having a traditional automatic and traditional AWD system is a nice plus for some people but I bet those reduce the efficiency quite a bit

A 1.4 engine at the price of a V6 ? Oh I geuss the battery is worth $15000 , yes makes perfectly sense

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

There was not a single 1.4 engine anywhere in the video, you might want to actually watch the video and learn what's actually in the vehicles before commenting (also, the HP produced is more than a lot of V6's).

If these PHEVs had 75 miles of range, they'd be acceptable. 33 miles, you might as well save the money and get the regular version.

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And their design is everything but pragmatic.

@gregkramer5588

2 жыл бұрын

Why is that?

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

@Greg Kramer They are very elaborate and flamboyant. A pragmatic design would be Tesla. All Teslas have that shared design for aerodynamics and have no elaborate front end designs where the grill would be.

@gregkramer5588

2 жыл бұрын

​@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Nothing more boring than a model 3/Y. I did not realize that by pragmatic you meant no sense of style. I think that still matters. Not to mention a base Y is $65k and which feature set wise is like a $35K Tucson. I am not sure why a simple styling means more pragmatic.

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

2 жыл бұрын

@Greg Kramer Tesla didn't put effort in making a great design. Design isn't necessary for the car to function so I said that was pragmatic. Maybe it's not the design that's pragmatic but the mentality of Tesla while designing it. It's a Tesla it will sell, so they didn't put any effort in it. I totally agree with you btw.

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Awrodynamics are not that simple. Plenry of slippery looking cars aren't really any more efficient. Tire width and pressure has a bigger effect than minor differences in front-end design.

31-35 mpg is not enough. A 10 year old Grand Caravan mini van can give you 22-25 mpg and it is heavier than either HY. In fact most cars can give you 25 mpg So nothing special really about the two misery four bangers here that mix two engines and run on half engine. The cars of today should be offering 50 pmg

@markmiller3279

2 жыл бұрын

But since only a very few do, maybe your expectations are fantasies?

@theairstig9164

2 жыл бұрын

50 mpg is 5L/100 km. That’s about average for an early 1980 super bike or a early 2000s turbo diesel hatch. These things are nearly two tonnes. What is wrong with people?

@wolfshanze5980

Жыл бұрын

A 1996 Geo Metro can get you 50mpg... and that's a nearly 30yo car!