Hypothetical Stars: Exploring the Bizarre Giants That Could Exist in the Universe
Welcome to the mysterious realm of hypothetical stars, the bizarre astronomical objects whose existence has been predicted by physics, but has yet to be confirmed.
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“A cold, dark, universe, devoid of light” where Simon hosts his last remaining KZread channel.
@thejudgmentalcat
Жыл бұрын
From an iron star...so metal
@mariusvanc
Жыл бұрын
There wouldn't be enough energy to run KZread, but Simon would find a way.
@Hillbilly001
Жыл бұрын
LOL! The King of KZread would just start more channels. Allegedly. Cheers from Tennessee
@Par_and_syv_lovers56
Жыл бұрын
The first boltzmann brain in our universe will be Simon starting a new youtube channel
@aceundead4750
Жыл бұрын
@@Par_and_syv_lovers56 who's to say we aren't already thoughts within the Boltzmann brain that is Simon Whistler which is why we obsessively watch his channels
Simon really should start Astro Graphics. I would love a channel dedicated to space themed content.
@Rabbit420_7I0
Жыл бұрын
This has to happen. Any one who agree? If we all say we want it we can't be ignored or all be silenced by joining the growing number of captives in the basement
@davekennedy6315
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd also LOVE a Simon Space themed channel!
@Luvmydeuce
Жыл бұрын
I feel space themed videos are one of Simon's biggest draws (that and war). He's branched off so many times because certain channels have strayed from their original plan, that I feel this will inevitably happen, which I'm all for!
@staytuned2L337
Жыл бұрын
I think at this point we just need to start suggesting names for this channel 😅
@IanAlcorn
Жыл бұрын
@@staytuned2L337 He's already used the term "Astrographics" in other space videos that by now it's all but official.
Back when I was in university (1990's), we discussed the possibility of "photon shells". These would be neutron stars so dense that light would tend to form stable orbits around the star. We always thought that it was an interesting idea, and maybe some strange physics would be going on in that shell.
@garethdean6382
Жыл бұрын
But would they be stable? Any slight deviation from a perfect path would surely tend to result in a photon escaping or falling towards the star, yes? There's only going to be one, very thing shell where such an orbit is perfectly balanced.
@Penfold101
Жыл бұрын
They exist around Black Holes though don’t they? Innermost stable orbits which equal the speed of light?
@insane_troll
Жыл бұрын
@@garethdean6382 You're right, photon orbits are never stable.
@tonyduncan9852
Жыл бұрын
@@garethdean6382 Thar would be the GRAY HOLE (optional E) that Simon mentioned, I think.
@flygawnebardoflight
Жыл бұрын
I believe black holes do have these, but only precisely because they are black holes. It could be possible for the Gray Holes mentioned in this video to have Photon shells as some sort of weather effect on them, but without the stability being guaranteed I'm just a youtube comment reply
Hypothetical Stars. The perfect description for people who gained fame from appearing on reality TV shows. 🌹🌹🌹🌹
"Strange Quarks are one of the six flavors of Quarks" just gave me a mental image of a very specific Ferengi doing the Jack Nicholson creepy nod meme.
@merafirewing6591
Жыл бұрын
Lmao!
Strange Stars are for sure my favorite undiscovered theoretical. A "state" of matter so stable it can infect other matter and make it Strange. Awesome.
@frozennorth3426
6 ай бұрын
there’s no need for quotes. it would be a state of matter.
Is the known universe large enough to contain all of Simon's channels? That is the question.
@adamboise3907
Жыл бұрын
Well the Simonverse is expanding rapidly.
@mho...
Жыл бұрын
@@adamboise3907 Whistlerverse!
There’s also the hypothetical “plank stars” from loop quantum gravity, they remove the black hole singularities, instead provide an upper bound to how dense matter/energy could ever be “plank energy density” …. Incredibly small/dense and very very short lived, though cause of the extreme time dilation from our perspective they take eons upon eons to cease
"Iron stars will exist in a cold, dark universe, devoid of light." one of the most metal things science has ever said. pun intended.
To any who love deep time i highly recommend to look up the video Iron Stars by Isaac Arthur. It deals in possibilities of how highly advanced civilizations of new forms of life may feasibly be able to still operate at the furthest reaches of time that have any meaning and is one of the most fascinating videos I have ever seen that feels like it holds any merit.
@xenorac
Жыл бұрын
You mean this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqCYmtmNkZSces4.html
@SirTorcharite
Жыл бұрын
YES! SFIA FTW! 😎👍
@carston101
Жыл бұрын
I dont know Jack about this stuff, but definitely going to check out that video! Space stuff, while often confusing and mind blowingly incomprehensible, has always been fascinating to me.
@43zq8sonoma
Жыл бұрын
History of the Universe covers the details of the black hole suns in more detail as well and Kurzgesagt strange stars. SFIAs Fermi paradox videos and iron stars video are what got me sucked into his channel.
@theexchipmunk
Жыл бұрын
I am going to throw in "A timelapse of the future" by Melodisheep.
0:49 the early universe 4:22 the present day 9:55 the far far future
0:55 - Chapter 1 - The early universe 4:25 - Chapter 2 - The present day 10:00 - Chapter 3 - The far, far future - Chapter 4 - - Chapter 5 - - Chapter 6 -
@9r33ks
Жыл бұрын
I mean... I'd watch the entire thing anyways, why do you need time stamps?
@AngeliqueStP
Жыл бұрын
@@9r33ks It's his most sacred duty to commemorate each individual chapter for us lay-abouts in the comments. [appreciation post
The universe has some *really* weird thins in it. I saw something on streaming that described one of the strangest planets imaginable: a planet made of carbon that is under *such* high pressure thst it could only be an enormous diamond.
He missed to talk about a very weird kind of star that we all came here for. It's known as a youtube star and Simon is the greatest of them all.
Iron Star. What an awesome name for a Rock band!
@bangyahead1
Жыл бұрын
Black Dwarf, what a name for a TV show made 100 trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion years in the future.
Simon do more like this these are great you do great narration on anyting astronomy or universal related you make it interesting you make it sound fun and mysterious the same time.
This was really cool Simon !!! I’m sure you have the technology to slow the Earth so you can record all your KZread channels. Take care and stay safe Sir !!!
Science is cool.
@brandonford8092
Жыл бұрын
Birds aren't real
@big0ben209
Жыл бұрын
@@brandonford8092 you aren’t real. You can’t prove to me that you exist.
@phillygirl5957
Жыл бұрын
@@big0ben209 We're all just fictitious groupies of the Big Brain Cult, & we only exist in Simon's Matrix.
I love this stuff. Give us more space videos!!!
love the "space" themed episode the most, so many interesting possibilities, agree with Alzurath Astro Graphics with maybe a bit of sci/fi thrown in the mix
Great stuff! As an armchair astrophysicist, this was absolutely fascinating. Thank you, sir.
@Fyrefrye
Жыл бұрын
If you're an aspiring armchair astrophysicist, you should really check out (or already know about) the channel Isaac Arthur. He has entire videos or playlists discussing topics like Iron stars in very great detail. Particularly how future civilizations or technology could/would be shaped by their existence.
@danidavis7912
Жыл бұрын
@@Fyrefrye I'll be sure and do that, thank you.
I love your videos & I love the people who post the chapters w/ time stamps
For those living in fear of strangelets turning the earth into a broiling blob, you probably shouldn't. Observation suggests models with stable strange matter are probably incorrect. The two biggest being: - No detections of temporarily stable strange matter in particle accelerators (as predicted by strange matter forming models); and - Nearly all neutron stars should become strange stars and this doesn't align with current observations. This is of course still up for academic debate but the existence of strange stars is looking unlikely at this point. If you want to melt your mind thinking about even longer timescales: assuming protons do not decay, iron stars are expected to become neutron stars (then black holes/ evaporation "shortly" after) between 10^10^26 to 10^10^76 years in the future. Compare that range to the unimaginably long time it took for the iron stars to form (as stated in the video) being 10^1500 years, on the order of just 10^10^3 years.
Gray Holes aren't likely to exist, or at least for long: because they'd gather more matter and thus surpass their Schwarzchild Radius. Millisecond Pulsars (everything I read says they probably aren't pulsars but something different) are interesting and have potential of being quark stars. Ultra-Cool Brown Dwarfs are interesting 'stars', or better described "Failed Stars". While most are akin to objects like Jupiter just dozens of times bigger: some appear to have solid surfaces and temperatures under 200c
12:30 And if you wanted to see an iron star die, you'd have to wait much, _much_ longer. Theoretically they then collapse into neutron stars, but that happens on the order of 10^(10^76) years.
@MLBlue30
Жыл бұрын
There are no words how long of an expanse of time that is. Eons don't cut it. A googol plex wouldn't even be a blink of an eye.
@Rathmun
Жыл бұрын
@@MLBlue30 A googolplex is 10^(10^100), which is dramatically longer. If you like contemplating the scope and scale of the universe and want your mind blown, go check out the Civilizations at the End of Time series by Isaac Arthur, also here on KZread.
Another great video. Cheers!
Havent heartd the idea of an active-yet frozen star before. What an awesome concept.
Love your channel, a regular ray of Sunshine!
I watch a lot of space science vids, daily. Learned a few new things here, cheers!
Very well done video! And such a cheerful ending, haha!
Thanks for a great video. The Universe is certainly a weird and wonderful place, yet we still haven't detected the one thing which it should be full of - aledgedly. Other life. I live in hope!
You know what isn't a hypothetical star? Simon Whistler
Good idea for a video. I really enjoyed this 1 tysm
In case anyone is curious, the correct pronunciation for "Schwartzchild" is something like "Shvaartz shilld".
The Black Hole at the center of the Milky Way is written Sagittarius A* It's pronounced "Sagittarius A-star." It's an odd notation that we pronounce an asterisk as star, but there it is.
I was wondering if you were giong to mention black dwarfs. They're kind of neat
I love space!!! The weirder the better! It still amazes me that 1 teaspoon of a neutron star can eat right through Earth like hot butter on a slice of toast! Crazy!!!
Love this Deep Time stuff. More!
I wake up make my breakfast to these videos and then come home and make my dinner while watching these Simon series... I've just realized how screwed I will be in the Kitchen if Simon ever decide to call it a day.
Quark Star would be so dense that it would produce latinum and have lobes for business 😁
@bangyahead1
Жыл бұрын
Yes, they would be even mroe dense than my ex-wife, which is really saying something.
So if Iron stars are massive spheres of iron floating in space what would happen if two of them collided? Wouldn't they explode causing them to break down into baser elements? Would the collision create light and heat? I imagine physicists have considered this.
@frozennorth3426
6 ай бұрын
they can’t explode. the reason all fusion eventually settles to iron is that fusing iron consumes more energy than it produces, so Iron can’t fuel fusion. thus, based purely on their combined mass, the two iron marbles would either a. become a bigger lump of iron b. be heavy enough to collapse into a neutron star c. he heavy enough to collapse into a black hole
This level of physics is FAR above what my mind can grasp! It's no wonder that people take the easier to understand concept of a 'sky daddy who works in mysterious ways' than trying to understand the nature of the universe and creation!
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
your understanding of theology is just as weak as your science knowledge.
The mass of enough Simon KZread channels may create a Simon Star by the time there are Iron Stars
The idea of a high metallicity frozen star is quite interesting, especially as this is the first I've heard of it. Very Intriguing.
@Swagdaddy1017
Жыл бұрын
😂
Hey brother I found my way to this newer channel. Bravo fantastic video!
I’ve just discovered you’re channel. The subject of iron stars is fascinating. I was kinda hoping that you’d attempt to show ten to the power of fifteen in actual terms on screen, of course I’m kidding!👍
....so the end product of the entirety of existence is.. ball bearings? Y'know, I wouldn't have guessed it.
Talking about heat death of the universe. Video considering hypothetical ends of universe would be cool :)
@bob_the_bomb4508
Жыл бұрын
You’ll need to book early to get a table… :)
Cool video man! Just a suggestion. Maybe add some compression on the voice? Sounds like you're cutting down to a whisper quite often. Probably just my hearing.
i like the thought of Quasistars exploding into SMBs and starting galaxies
I could see Simon starting a new channel all about space and calling it SpaceProjects or something. Would be cool
I choose to not worry too much about anything like strange matter because if it does happen, we won't know anything has h
Science is fun. Always changing and exploring.
Fun Fact--- Simon Clone #3 presented this video :D
The "child" in Schwarzschild sounds more like "shield" than "child".
@jarls5890
Жыл бұрын
Yep! Very annoying to listen to! It is "Schwarz-schild" literally "black shield". English speakers would be better of pronouncing it "Schwarz-shield" than "Schwarz-child".
"Sun is a yellow dwarf star" Isn't it a main sequence star?
@Astrofrank
Жыл бұрын
Yes, G2 V, but main sequence stars (MKK classification V) are also known as dwarfs.
This man could sell me practically anything with his voice alone.
You are the star m8
Beard blaze must work like a charm i remember totally bald simmon now he got one of the most full well groomed beards you ever seen
Do more of these please
The early universe, The big bang issued forth from Simons beard & glasses
I...I think I might have a problem. I glanced at the video thumbnail as I was scrolling down and thought to myself, "Huh, another Righteous Fire build? Doesn't PoE have enough of those?"
Quasi-stellar objects… Quasars! If there were such compact, massive objects, wouldn’t they cause gravitational lensing, thus revealing their presence?
Just to add to the Whistleverse, you should put these space side projects and other space stuff into the channel "SpaceProjects" if somehow it isn't already taken
damn well done!
Please do a video on Supervoids next!
Ejected strange matter might convert all, and with strange aeons even death may die.
Along with heat death aren't we also expanding and accelerating. How would this matter come together if everything is just spreading out?
@garethdean6382
Жыл бұрын
Not easily, which is why the Big Crunch scenario has fallen out of favor in cosmology.
Interesting although I'm surprised you left out Magnetars.
I was just starting to write a book series based on the idea that what of the laws of physics were time/space relativistic? As in our "current instantiation of space/time" would only apply to a specific space region, other solar systems and galaxies within the Universe could actually function with different base laws of physics. Start thinking what it would be like to find out that gravity isn't directly linked to mass, or if the strong and weak forces were slightly different and allowed a bunch of different elements to form. Alternate realities, with crazy "Borderlands" interactions of two different instantiations of space time. Imagine if Earth only currently exists because we happen to be sitting smack dab in the middle of a "stable" solar system, that isn't actually stable. What would happen if two solar systems that operated under just slightly different laws of physics, "crashed" into one another. Maybe one solar mass has a strange gravity pulse that causes the other solar mass to "surf" the gravity wave, and have just the outer planets of each star slamming into each other.
Always love space stuff 🌌🚀🌌
Small "correction": When saying Schwarzschild the the second "sch" is also pronounced like "sh". Schwarz-Child is funny though. Sounds like Starlords archenemy or so. 😄 Thank you for the great video and best wishes from Germany 🌻
@12345NOU54321
Жыл бұрын
Years of astronomical curiosity, plenty of Wikipedia deep dives and hours of reading, and it wasn’t until Veritasium’s black hole video that I learned that. It’s so obvious now, looking at the word, but from an English readers perspective, I can see how it’s so widespread.
With the hypothesis of such MASSIVE stars....and the James Webb space telescope presenting lights during the dark age of the universe.....how do we know that those discoveries are galaxies, and not just massive quasi-stars?
By the time iron stars form wouldn't they start colliding with eachother? That'd probably create heat and prolong the inevitable for quite a while. I'd imagine all the super iron stars would actually reverse directions via attraction to the closest mass which is most likely other super iron stars, whilst actively fighting the expansion of the universe. But since the expansion accelerates would these stars have to eventually approach the speed of light to have any hope to find eachother? Wow even as a hypothetical this seems to have lots of room for wacky physics. For some reason my mind just imagines a point in which every object in the universe will suddenly collide due to everything travelling lightspeed, thus creating a new center of the universe from which the collision of all that mass might have enough energy to create a huge explosion almost like...a big bang.
@MLBlue30
Жыл бұрын
Light speed is hopelessly slow though and would take infinite mass just to reach that speed. If it takes an eternity to make these iron stars, it would take eternity to reach another one. Everything stretches out to the extremes. I doubt one atom will ever find another one let alone a star. A dark lonely nothingness seems to be the destiny of everything and the universe seems quite fine with it. It makes me sad knowing that even light itself will be a long, long forgotten myth.
@lazylazerrsp8781
Жыл бұрын
@@MLBlue30 the timescale I'm working with for the stars to reach lightspeed, or the universal speed limit, shouldn't be infinite. The acceleration of gravity is constantly increasing velocity which even means that if it was one atom's width per second then it'll still eventually reach it in a finite time. I'll be honest and say that the video on the shape of space being 4d is the backbone of the imagery I'm basing the wonky physics on. Just travelling at lightspeed implies you have infinite speed since time ceases to be an obstacle, but the curvature of spacetime makes everything cap at C in relation to everything else. But if everything else is also travelling lightspeed then I'm imagining the shape of reality would collapse on itself when everything is on a collision path with an instantaneous timeframe. I got lost in all the mind bending i did and really don't want to check it, so hopefully I conveyed the thought process for how it ends with a universal reset.
Black holes, grey holes, Qs of different types, the snigger factor in this video is off the scale! 🎉
@bangyahead1
Жыл бұрын
possibly... astronomically... off scale?
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
bro. not the S-word.
Simon is starting to go into the realm of Isaac Arthur, John Michael Godier, and Anton Petrov...and that is a great thing.
This could be a rather literal episode of Into the Shadows.
For the strange matter condundrum: Wouldn't it lose stability as it leaves the star? Or is it just THAT stable? If so, should we be thankful that the escape velocity requirements from a neutron star are impossibly high?
@frozennorth3426
6 ай бұрын
Plenty of stuff escapes neutron stars. They’re generally extremely hot, and they also shoot out all kinds of stuff due to their magnetic fields. For example, Pulsars are neutron stars. The only object with a region that has an “impossibly high” escape velocity is, by definition, a black hole.
Neutron Stars spin at something like 750 times a second.
@bangyahead1
Жыл бұрын
The speed of rotation can vary greatly, even thousands of times per second.
Cool story bro can I hear it again. Literally.
Bravo sir👍
Lets consider a little bit of looking up properties of elements and chemicals. H2 condenses (boils) at 20K, and current star formation theories depend on this value. Lithium condecses at 1615K, but would probably form LiH which condenses at 1173+K. Less than 1%, but would star foeming liquid drops and accumulate to attract H2.
Well! That ended on a light hearted happy thought!
Hi Simon, just wanted to say I've loved your content on KZread and have now subscribed. Perhaps if you have time you could maybe do a video on China's artificial sun. Many thanks.
simon rocking that Carl Sagon starter kit, is starting to grow on me... keep on grinding fact boy
The Trifid Nebula, shown at 1:47, is not an SNR. The somehow round shape comes from being a Strömgren sphere.
A cold, dark and empty universe. Gee, thanks for the happy thought!
And one day, long after the last Iron Star formed, the last english-speaking Human realised that it wasn’t pronounced Schwarz-child but Schwarz-Shield… But then it pulled an Asimov, another few orders of magnitude of years later the Cosmic AC answered The Last Question, and all was well in the Universe. (Schwarz Schild. Black Shield.)
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
In English, it's pronounced how Simon says it is. We're not sphrechening here.
Our time in this universe is so unfairly short, so many cool things we’ll never get to witness 😢
@frozennorth3426
6 ай бұрын
A photon knows only a single moment. To it, we live an eternity, and witness a billion lifetimes of existence every second. It’s all relative :)
what he says at the end doesn't make sense: the complete evaporation of black holes CAN NOT happen before Iron starts, because an iron star has entropy still, so it can not be the end of the universe, if protons can not decay, then NOTHING can ultimately decay so no end to anything in the universe,.... it's a contradiction
When you first asked if we were familiar with stars I thought you were referring to the streaming service. 😅
Well, except that Keith Richards will still be around when iron stars form, which is something to consider when thinking about them.
Out of chaos comes order, then there must be order in chaos, then out of order comes chaos and so on and so on.
Reasons why I compare black holes to toilets: Nothing can escape the suction, but shit leaves it. The converted energy just doesn't escape as the delightful cheeseburger you plopped into the event horizon. There has been some severe digestion. (Oh, and seems to spin. Why things spin is still a mystery.)
As soon as a star starts creating iron, it only has seconds to live because iron creates zero fusion energy. At that point gravity takes over and the star collapses onto the iron core, the rebound off the core into the onrushing material heading for the core causes a Supernova. Depending on the mass of the star you either end up with a neutron star or a black hole.
strange quarks aren't "highly unstable", they last like 100 picoseconds and decay via the weak interaction. Originally, it was believe they should decay strongly, in which case their lifetime would be around 0.00000000001 picoseconds...now _that_ would be highly unstable.
@MLBlue30
Жыл бұрын
That is a crazy short amount of time. One regular second would seem like an eternity, let alone 10 to the 1500 years.
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
@@MLBlue30 it is short, but look at a rho meson, it decays via the strong interaction (a spin flip I think) to pion(s) in 5 x 10^{-24} seconds. Neutral pions decay by quark-anti-quark annihilation via electromagnetism in around 10^{-16} seconds (1/2 billion times slower), while charged pions need to wait for the weak interaction to violate flavor conservation, which is another factor of 1/3 billion: 3 x 10^(-8) seconds.
@MLBlue30
Жыл бұрын
@@DrDeuteron Man, existence is weird. Whst the heck is flavor conservation?
@DrDeuteron
Жыл бұрын
@@MLBlue30 flavor is an arbitrary name given to quark types. They come in pairs: (up, down), named after the proton/neutron 3rd component of isospin. Then strange for being strange, then charm for charmingly completing the (s, c) doublet. Finally the boring (top, bottom). Strong and EM interactions conserve flavor (i.e, up quarks stay up etc). Cabibbo figured out the the weak interaction works on quark mixtures: u' = u cos(theta) + d sin(theta) d' =-u sin(theta) + d cos(theta) so it could change flavors (e.g. neutron decay) Theta is the cabbibo angle. Then with strange, it was generalized to the CKM mixing matrix. K & M won the Nobel prize and Cabibbo got nothing. Being 3D, the CKM matrix allows baryon number violation and was thought to solve the "baryogengesis problem" aka: where'd the antimatter go, but it didn't work. Then over in the lepton sector, Pontecorvo, Maki, Nakagawa & Sakata made the PMNS matrix to explain neutrino mixing. Weak interaction does a lot of weird stuff.
I wonder how much this guy makes, I’m sure he has a small team of people? I mean damn there are so many channels it’s downright impressive 😂
9:00 If a neutron star collided with a regular star wouldn't that result in a type 1A supernova when the neutron star accreted to 1.4 solar masses?
@Astrofrank
Жыл бұрын
No, that needs a White Dwarf with hydrogen and helium which can undergo nuclear fusion. If these elements are only at the surface, a nova might occour.
This video was awesome but... instead of jingle at the end you would just leave silence and black screen...
Gravity wells: the only diffentiators between a moon's gravity well and a star is the amount of mass driving the depth of the well, the composition of the matter within and its spin. Gravity - supposedly the weakest of the 4 fundamental forces is precicesly the mechanism that takes hydrogen on its journey through the periodic table fusing into denser and denser elements until you're back to a black hole whose constituent 'matter' probably resembles pure potential, waiting to go big bang