When your FOV is imaginary

@CodeParade

4 жыл бұрын

You're almost not wrong haha.

@ammyvl1

4 жыл бұрын

I think the better term is complex...

@blocksofwater4758

4 жыл бұрын

@@ammyvl1 when he mean by " imaginary" he means on the imaginary axes

@nova_vista

4 жыл бұрын

when you accidentally set your FOV to NULL

@feynman6756

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Darrow You didn't _have_ to do anything; this is a KZread comments section

"objects in mirror may be closer than they appear" the game

@dubbleyou248

3 жыл бұрын

So true

@accountdisbanded

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@tuopi27

3 жыл бұрын

well, further in the spherical geometry

@user-dh8oi2mk4f

3 жыл бұрын

@@tuopi27 no. In spherical geometry, objects on the other side of the sphere look huge.

@henrikljungstrand2036

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-dh8oi2mk4f Yes and because they look huge, they seem to be nearer than they are. So they are further away than they seem.

YESSS I'm so excited to see the progress of this game as it develops! Non-Euclidean geometry games have been so unexplored, so now its time to change that

@Ottmar555

4 жыл бұрын

Have you played Hyperrogue, Cary?

@angelsachse9610

4 жыл бұрын

Me too! De-Sitter-Space game when?

@euclidpanarchy1502

4 жыл бұрын

You proved my username wrong 😂

@jetison333

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense you'd be here :). I'm so excited for this game!

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ottmar555 I really hope so

"Coming late 2020" - ah, so, never, due to the equally hyperbolic timeline that we've been thrust into.

@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929

4 жыл бұрын

Eh, he’s been doing projects relating to non-euclidian geometry for at least a year or so now, plus the game doesn’t look that compex so it might not be as u realistic a timeline as you might think.

@thatoneguy9582

4 жыл бұрын

Tiberius Magnificus Caeser The game will be finished The question is will life be finished

@happmacdonald

4 жыл бұрын

@@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929 You: that Codepen kicking it in a Paris café with Marc Ten Bosch: BA-HA ha ha ha ha! 😂

@alansmithee419

4 жыл бұрын

@@tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929 not that complex? I'd say anything with hyperbolic space is complex. But you're right that he's been messing around with this stuff for quite some time.

@thegaspatthegateway

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatoneguy9582 good point. i think

I wanna play this in vr, see how long I can go before vomiting.

@Kknewkles

4 жыл бұрын

You'd be real surprised when you'd vomit your VR, somehow :DDD

@SimonClarkstone

4 жыл бұрын

It'll feel quite claustrophobic. According to my calculations, your Euclidean depth perception would make you experience the whole of hyperbolic space as being squeezed into a sphere 1 Hyperbolic Unit in radius.

@joonasfi

4 жыл бұрын

@@SimonClarkstone "according to my calculations", LOL, good one :)

@ScareFire

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kknewkles I really wanna try this in VR anyway, I not affected by motion sickness

@JoinUsInVR

4 жыл бұрын

Come join us in VR already! Our group has a member voted and prioritized list of " TIPS " that CURE motion sickness for nearly everyone. Stop by and say hi.

finaly something that will fill the hexagonal hole HyperRogue ripped into my heart

@harrympharrison

4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, HyperRogue was (edit: is!) the shit.

@stephentokai5919

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah same❕

@CosmiaNebula

4 жыл бұрын

did you mean HEPTAGONAL

@cellularautomaton.

4 жыл бұрын

@@harrympharrison hyperrogue continues to be a thing and in fact is available on steam

@Ottmar555

4 жыл бұрын

It's still being developed and has gotten more interesting.

Oh yes! I've seen so many 'non-Euclidean' worlds that are really just locally Euclidean with portals, but this looks like proper locally-non-Euclidean goodness. I can't wait to see more.

@bogiesmigforl1

3 жыл бұрын

Those euclidean worlds with portals are also non euclidean worlds, this is just a different kind. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nXl2k5OJgZyrn5s.html

@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven

3 жыл бұрын

@@bogiesmigforl1 When someone says 'non-Euclidean' it almost always means 'locally non-Euclidean'. Yes, topologically it's technically globally non-Euclidean but then again, so is Asteroids IIRC.

@TheDreadedJuggernaut

3 жыл бұрын

This game will have no portals in it.

@rateeightx

3 жыл бұрын

@@rtg_onefourtwoeightfiveseven Doesn't Asteroids Take Place On A Torus, Like Pac-Man?

@JanKowalski-wb2fv

3 жыл бұрын

@@rateeightx do you mean torus?

Figuring out speed run strats is going to be an absolute nightmare

@backdownhipi

3 жыл бұрын

speed-running strats: "alright now watch carefully as we start this game--DONE"

@ZachAttack6089

3 жыл бұрын

* walks backwards * * beats the game *

@beri4138

3 жыл бұрын

"You just do a 720 degree turn here and take the downwards path because going down is by far the fastest way to climb the mountain. Now enter the house with 4 rooms, the key to the final boss is in the 7th room."

@ninjatintin9074

2 жыл бұрын

people are already speedrunning the game

Clearly this trailer is just hyperbole.

@TheDoh007

4 жыл бұрын

Good one xd

@arizonarangerwiththebigiro8588

4 жыл бұрын

shut up

@TheDoh007

4 жыл бұрын

​@@arizonarangerwiththebigiro8588​ wth man that's rude, dude

@112048112048

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheDoh007 You can't be rude on the internet, that's illegal!

@sapphoschild3019

4 жыл бұрын

Oooo big words

when you mess up the raytracing code

@ammyvl1

4 жыл бұрын

No when I mess mine up it causes epilepsy

@HueHanaejistla

4 жыл бұрын

@@ammyvl1 no u

@Guztav1337

4 жыл бұрын

When you remove one of the axioms in "normal" euclidean geometry

@atomictraveller

4 жыл бұрын

isn't it just a nonlinear depth transform? normally the x/y pixel values are scaled by the depth linearly (at least as i code.. only used my own rendering engines but linear is conventional in descriptions of 3d engines). here it looks like further points have a larger x/y scale. might be wrong.

@binarycat1237

4 жыл бұрын

@@atomictraveller actually, space itself is a different shape.

I really adore these types of weird games. Shoutout to Antichamber and that guy who made 4d toys

@guillermoc7736

4 жыл бұрын

Marc Ten Bosch, the dev of Miegakure. Apparently Miegakure's soon to be finished.

@erik-ic3tp

4 жыл бұрын

@@guillermoc7736, source abou Miegakure?

@davidkonevky7372

4 жыл бұрын

I tried looking at an antichamber speedrun and I didn't understand a thing about how the game worked lmao

@guillermoc7736

4 жыл бұрын

@@erik-ic3tp search "miegakure blog" in google and you can read all tge recent stuff

@B58-Minecraft

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidkonevky7372 me too

This is why I like games. Here, we are not constrained by stupid earth and reality rules 🚀

@1996Pinocchio

4 жыл бұрын

Non-Euclidean does not mean without rules.

@ElOroDelTigre

4 жыл бұрын

@Parody Poops As you perceive it.

@SamualN

4 жыл бұрын

@@1996Pinocchio no one said otherwise

@panchopiliXD

4 жыл бұрын

You're too rough with rules

@alitrux

4 жыл бұрын

Well actually reality is a non-euclidean 4-dimensional space

I'm posting a comment so that you are motivated to complete this game.

@loljptrollergami7325

4 жыл бұрын

I am posting a reply in case the original comment blows up

@ricksanchez280

4 жыл бұрын

i am just liking this comment because i am lazy to write a comment but i dont know what is irony so give me likes.

@unknown-otter

4 жыл бұрын

Same. Game looks pretty neat

@haydenhoes12

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Ben Jacobson

@machinelearningguy8600

4 жыл бұрын

Don't want another Miegakure :(

This is the game I’ve been dreaming of ever since I found HyperRogue

@kaidatong1704

4 жыл бұрын

HyperRogue isn’t missing 3D tho

@Ottmar555

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaidatong1704 It's still a different concept. I do play HR from time to time. Zeno is quite accessible.

A few things I noticed: -the beach line is a equidistant curve to the border of grass and sand -the path the camera follows at one point looks like a horocircle -the scene with the barn seems to be in S3 -the ground in the vapor wave area looks like klein Beltrami model of hyperbolic space

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't noticed that!

@ferociousfeind8538

2 жыл бұрын

klein-beltrami sacrifices visual range for keeping straight lines straight, and you can see plenty of curved lines, I think that's still poincare

MANNNN IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS HHHJKDJK

@mrsmoothbrain9589

3 жыл бұрын

Hi

@tubbyqueen

3 жыл бұрын

hi kd

@spacedanceretefira7237

2 жыл бұрын

kd doesn't stand for kittydog, it stands for kringe degenerate

This hurts my head and i love it

@ammyvl1

4 жыл бұрын

I like your profile pic but it needs the sans eye

@imnotfuckingusingthisaccou2574

4 жыл бұрын

Edwin Stfu

@KamisKapi

4 жыл бұрын

@@ammyvl1 hatkid is already a perfection

@ninjatintin9074

2 жыл бұрын

@@ammyvl1 who asked

last time I was this early Euclid was still writing _The Elements_

@OrangeC7

4 жыл бұрын

I would write what the relevant situation was the last time that I was this early, but it is too long to fit here.

@feynman6756

4 жыл бұрын

@@OrangeC7 That made me laugh

@Adam-zt4cn

4 жыл бұрын

This is the first "Last time I was this early" comment I actually find funny, well done.

@abefaerber7994

4 жыл бұрын

How does this have so few likes for how genius it is

@willmcpherson2

4 жыл бұрын

Euclid getting hyperbolically dunked on smh

It's sad how no one seems to care about the music. Of course this game looks very interesting, but the music created such an amazing futuristic/experimental vibe to it. Phil K. did an excellent job on this one, I would definitely love to hear the full soundtrack.

@fnamelname9077

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed the music, as well. I'm a collector of VG and Electronica, so this is great for me.

@thepotatoof4219

4 жыл бұрын

The music gives somewhat of a surreal vibe, not kidding.

@benthomason3307

3 жыл бұрын

Saying you like this game for the music would bel like saying you like Avengers Endgame for the lighting.

@woosix7735

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I agree, it's very nice

@Greenpixel16

2 жыл бұрын

I love how it's kinda eerie but also really relaxing

I dunno, the last time I had a "Non-Euclidean Adventure" it ended with me ramming an awakened space god with my boat at his ancient city in the Pacific.

@mmyr8ado.360

4 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness I'm not the only one who thinks about it. Just imagine, a horror game with that kind of geometry would add a layer of fear.

@knowledgemagnet4077

4 жыл бұрын

@@mmyr8ado.360 #Cuthulu

@thegaspatthegateway

4 жыл бұрын

your talkin about that squiddy fellow aint ya

@knowledgemagnet4077

4 жыл бұрын

@@thegaspatthegateway yea

@columbus8myhw

3 жыл бұрын

Cuthelup

hyperrogue gang

The space is not bending. What we saw is a pointcarré projection of an hyperbolic space, it's that projection which got distorded, the space itself never change. Source : I played hyperrogue

@h00db01i

4 жыл бұрын

*Poincaré

@Kaiveran

4 жыл бұрын

Or some sort of equidistant view. But the principle is the same: in curved space, straight lines don't actually appear straight unless you're right on top of them. With positive curvature, they appear to curve towards you with distance; with negative curvature, they appear to curve away from you.

A lot of this looks similar as to how I feel as though our minds would perceive traveling through the fourth spacial dimension (or at least how it would be shown in a game)

0:08 things seem to be going further/closer wrongly, is this spherical geometry in 3d? if so thats really neat, wow

@CodeParade

4 жыл бұрын

Yup :)

@skull4110

4 жыл бұрын

That shot blew my mind. Can't wait now

@Kaiveran

4 жыл бұрын

@@CodeParade Hmm. Wonder if there's an "Inverted World" scenario going on at one point....

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

That'll be so cool

@winksatfriend

3 жыл бұрын

@@CodeParade I was wondering, what does the spherical world look like without the fog?

When youtubers play with the lowest possible FOV Edit: lowest or highest depending on the level/scene

@haph2087

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes, quake pro.

@shpeck_

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes fov_desired 10

@terner1234

4 жыл бұрын

@@shpeck_ fov_desired 179.999 ftw

@animowany111

4 жыл бұрын

I recently added Pannini projection to my raytracer, it's really hard to find actual code for that, but now that I've done that I can do 210° FOV with minimal distortion, and even 300° if I feel like it.

@terner1234

4 жыл бұрын

@@animowany111 very nice

This is what it feels like playing Minecraft being high. I can confirm.

Let's go!!! Been watching and loving your stuff for a while. Good luck with the rest of development!

This is going to be huge my friend! Great job!

Looks awesome. HyperRogue was intriguing, but this takes it to the next level IMO being able to see the hyperbolic dimension in first person using familiar environments and objects. The only other person working on interactive 3D hyperbolic environments, that I know of, is Henry Segerman (look up his KZread channel!) so this is a deeply unexplored space up until now. I'm excited to see more!

@CodeParade

4 жыл бұрын

Henry is actually a collaborator on this project ;)

@xemy1010

4 жыл бұрын

@@CodeParade Amazing! He's the best :)

@cellularautomaton.

4 жыл бұрын

hyperrogue has a first person mode

@mjde9532

4 жыл бұрын

Hyperrogue on steam has a ton of nice features, including first person, wacky bonus content and 3dimensional geometrys

@cellularautomaton.

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjde9532 fpp is actually available in the free version

It’s going to come out before Miegakure does

@atimholt

4 жыл бұрын

Now we need someone to come up with a game in 4D hyperbolic space. Or maybe within a Riemann surface/space?

@recurvestickerdragon

4 жыл бұрын

:(

@julianemery718

4 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting forever for That game...

@Nat_the_Chicken

4 жыл бұрын

I kind of admire Marc ten Bosch just for the sheer level of nonchalance about releasing the game. Like, he apparently is incapable of feeling any kind of pressure from anyone. It's his little project, and he'll release it when he feels like it, and that's that.

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nat_the_Chicken At least he's honest about it and not BSing people into thinking it's almost finished like Yandere Dev or Star Citizen

I just saw your previous video about non-euclidian spaces and I thought it would be interesting to see a game like this, and boom 1 minute for me and 1 year for you and I can see the actual trailer

You’re a legend. I look forward to playing this when it launches.

Remember drugs, don’t do vegetables, eat homework and do your kids.

@thefakepie1126

4 жыл бұрын

you messed that up you should have replaced "school" with "homework"

@ReBrand417

4 жыл бұрын

Oh

@theapexsurvivor9538

4 жыл бұрын

@@thefakepie1126 nah, he was just recommending the harem route.

@unaskedBeef

4 жыл бұрын

You are wize

@imveryangryitsnotbutter

4 жыл бұрын

"do your kids" no don't

"So, how high do you want your FOV to be?" "Yes"

Seems incredible! It immediately enterred my Steam wishlist!

This looks great! I'm looking forward to trying it out.

Reminds me of HyperRogue, but 3d. I will eagerly await the release!

@christopherking6129

4 жыл бұрын

It actually has a 3D mode.

@colgatelampinen2501

4 жыл бұрын

@@christopherking6129 and 4d

I am really hyped for non-euclidean games

I only found this guy's channel yesterday. This looks so mind bending.

After seeing your Non-Euclidean World Engine when you posted that video I was hoping to see something like this happen. Great stuff I'll be on the pre-order ;)

0:19 *_A E S T H E T I C S_*

@katakana1

4 жыл бұрын

0:20.

@thepotatoof4219

4 жыл бұрын

I want outrun aesthetic at nighttime in game. That would be cool.

@davidkonevky7372

4 жыл бұрын

Let's wait for when they make the vsco aestethic in the game

Steam says "more like this:" and lists some games... NO there is NOTHING like this, I can't wait! You're a genius and a gentleman, thank you so much for explaining this to us.

Some polish and done! Trippy masterpiece.

I am so hyped seriously. Wishlisted

really interesting to look back at this after playing the game. its come so far

Imagine a non euclidean auto-generated infinite world rpg 3D game with 1 MB is amazing

This looks so awesome! I would love to play this!

This looks incredible! Thank you for deciding to make the engine open source, games like these are mind bending.

Reminds me of "A Slower Speed of Light" from the MIT Game Lab

@Spellweaver5

4 жыл бұрын

Also hyperrogue and Miegakure.

Looks amazing, will definitely give it a go when it comes out

This is pretty epic! Keep it up

Been waiting for a experience like this

as a staunch hyperrogue fan, this looks very interesting!

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Okay this looks really fricking epic.

Wow can't wait to watch the next video!

Respect how interesting this concept is man. Cant wait to play it

So this is where he's been this whole time

"I'm using Unity for this" "the engine will be open source" So is this game running in Unity or the non-euclidean worlds engine?

@CodeParade

4 жыл бұрын

The engine is written inside Unity yes. I'll try to put it on the Unity asset store when it's done.

@Kknewkles

4 жыл бұрын

@@CodeParade how in the devil did you manage this in UNITY GOTY just for that

@TheMikirog

4 жыл бұрын

@@CodeParade I thought by "engine" you meant your own renderer and codebase, not a plugin or a set of libraries for an existing game engine. The naming kinda threw me off.

@nuralimedeuatnu

4 жыл бұрын

@@CodeParade Just curious, have you tried Godot?

@HyperManu

4 жыл бұрын

@@nuralimedeuatnu Why use Godot?? It's clearly not a good tool for a production-ready game.

This game looks so awesome! Can't wait to play it!

This looks so creative. It's on my wishlist!

last time I was this early Pythagoreans could still eat beans

This looks like it could be a great pedagogical tool for maths students trying to gain an intuition for hyperbolic geometry! I would love to see other interactive games based on higher-level maths concepts, could be used to enthuse more people to get interested in maths.

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

I am so excited for this!

I hope your game gains attraction as well as yout channel. I really like your videos and they're very educational to me. I will see if I can afford the game when it comes out, thanks :)

@ZChrisCrisisZ

4 жыл бұрын

Your*

A new genre is born.

@darltrash

4 жыл бұрын

Non-euclidean Mindfuck

Me:“Where am I on the map?” The game: “No” Edit: changed yes into no

@binarycat1237

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, with the way negitve curvature space works, the answer is more likely to be "no"

@ultimagnum3511

4 жыл бұрын

@@binarycat1237 Why would that be?

@kayagorzan

4 жыл бұрын

Is it because it's *negative* ?

@kayagorzan

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure

@theuncalledfor

4 жыл бұрын

@@ultimagnum3511 Because there is a lot more space within the same amount of space. Or, more precisely, there is a lot more area within a circle of the same radius. "Yes" would imply you're everywhere on the map. "No" would imply you're nowhere on the map. Of course both options are exaggerations, but "No" is more accurate because locating you on the map is more difficult, because there is so much more _map_ to be in.

This is exactly what I was looking for!

The footage with the music here is just incredible to look at

Cool

I am actually quiet frustrating about this. I had the same idea, I gradually went to it, studied engines, graphics and mathematics. And now all this does not make sense. You overtook me in everything. This is a little annoying, but I am happy for your success. It looks super amazing

@Nomyriad

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think anyone would complain about having multiple non-euclidean games! besides, I'm sure you would have unique ideas for the world, puzzles, actual gameplay, etc

@cern1999sb

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, don't give up just because there is one other being developed

looks so creative and imaginative!

Can’t wait, seems super interesting

Strong monument valley vibes. Looks super cool

Euclid was a hack and he has yet to come on my show to refute me.

@omer1996d2

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair technically speaking the universe is not actually euclidic. As a whole Its flat by common consensus (thogh this has been recently called into question as only being approximately flat by recent hypothesis) but whenever it involves strong gravitational influence it isn't. One example is gravitational lensing caused by massive/dense objects such as stars, galaxies, and black holes making objects behind appear at wared and at a different distance than they are actually are (as in light from the object IS NOT moving in straight lines throu that section of space)

This looks amazing!

This is incredible! I didn’t realize this was even possible.

I’ve always wanted a game where everything is geometrically weird

@ballom29

4 жыл бұрын

You can try hyperrogue then. It's on steam or play the previous version on the official website for free.

@devinward461

4 жыл бұрын

@@ballom29 Seconded, Hyperrogue is great

Just told my 4th year university math class about this game, so hopefully my prof will advertise it a bit. So if a University of Toronto professor emails you, it's not spam lol

Every movement makes me catch my breath. I really want to play this

omg!!! this is turning out amazing!!!

Imagine this in VR. EDIT: OH GOD THAT'S ALREADY PLANNED? Our poor brains...

Code Bullet: Chaotic Neutral Code Parade: Lawful Good

@abandonedchannel3576

4 жыл бұрын

i thought i was the only one who was thinking that they have similar names

This is awesome! I can't wait to buy it!

oh my god that looks sick!! I absolutely LOVE surreal stuff like this!! I cant wait untill this is finished!!

Oh, I love non-euclidean geometry.

I'm so excited this is the coolest thing ever!!

IM SO HYPED, THIS IS SO COOL

Take that, fifth postulate

When you break your rendering engine but just go with it

Awesome ! Update us when we can put this on wishlist.

This is beautiful!

I'm already computing Christoffel symbols like there's no tomorrow

@stardestroyer19

4 жыл бұрын

Your Differential Geometry homework is to speedrun this

you should add the great city of R'lyeh where great cthulhu waits dreaming

@cellularautomaton.

4 жыл бұрын

there's already another non-euclidean game with c'thulhu in it, so that might not work too well.

Impressive how there'll always be something new to create

I'm so hyped! Even the music is great.

Very interesting visuals! I hope you'll tell us how you managed to make a hyperbolic perspective system. I've tried to do things very similar to this, (if only visually) by changing the size of the viewport as it got further from the camera. Looking at the footage, I can't tell if you've actually changed the geometry of the space. This also makes me wonder if you'll try elliptical geometry. Visually, elliptical geometry is less interesting, but spatially it gives more opportunities for confounding spaces. Regardless, I find this very exciting. I've always loved non-euclidean games and projects!

@mjde9532

4 жыл бұрын

ZenoTheRogue has a few things for computing hyperbolic geometry on his blog

@Nerdule

4 жыл бұрын

If I'm not mistaken, 0:08 - 0:12 and the barn at 0:30 are actually in elliptical space!

"late 2020" he said

@SSM24_

2 жыл бұрын

Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

I always wanted to make such a video game! I can't wait to see the video, is this a dream that came true!

this looks AWESOME !!

i can't wait to get my brain scrambled!