Hybrid Ceramic Armor!

Ғылым және технология

Link to the PDF: drive.google.com/file/d/12-zS...
(huge thanks to Chris for coming out and shooting with me, if you want to check out his youtube channel heres a link:youtube.com/@christopherkiris...
this project video I showcase some ceramic/elastomer hybrid strike faces that can handle some serious damage. It covers topics such as: LIBA armor system and similar patents, the T-64 ultra porcelain armor, proper packing configurations of ceramic balls (including circle packing and sphere packing problems.) Different elastic resins, and where to go from here. I hope this video and PDF paper serves as a guide for those interested in getting into more dynamic armor systems. This was a really fun project to work on, and I'm excited to finally show it off. This video is much longer than others I've produced, however I felt like it was needed to get all the information out. I really think this could be expanded on, to create Flexible rifle-rated armor.
Here's the links for all the materials used, and articles quoted and photos used.
First, links for the materials.
Porcelain balls were bought form this distributor on ebay: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=...
Alumina oxide ceramic balls were from MSE supplies: www.msesupplies.com/pages/mse...
simpact resin 85A and 60A was bought from this website (and information and data sheet was used from there.): www.smooth-on.com/products/si... you can use that website to find a local distributor as well.
Now onto the sources, first up LIBA armor information:
The company that owns the rights to the LIBA name and produces it: www.mofet-etzion.co.il/compan...
more information on LIBA: defense-update.com/20060814_l... this is where the photos I used where taken from.
patents similar to this system:uspto.report/patent/app/20190...
patents.google.com/patent/US2...
T-64 ultra porcelain armor information and photos: en.topwar.ru/204564-kak-v-bas...
paper on porcelain's main material and effects: www.researchgate.net/publicat....
more information on porcelain: www.makeitfrom.com/material-p...
circle packing problems: www.packomania.com/
image of hex packing of a circles: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_...
Sphere packing information: link.springer.com/article/10....
sphere packing image: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...
close packing of spheres from the wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close-p...
I started both studies on circle packing and sphere packing using wikipedia, and branched out from there. still, a bunch of information on those topics can be found there.
If there's an issue with citations, or if you want to know more information about this project fill free to drop me a line down below. Thanks for your time.

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  • @Techthisoutmeow
    @Techthisoutmeow6 ай бұрын

    I would greatly appreciate it if you guys shared this video. Also, here's a link to my discord for those who are interested in joining: discord.com/invite/CrZGHYsmwh

  • @Eidolon1andOnly

    @Eidolon1andOnly

    6 ай бұрын

    What about using ordinary glass marbles or ball bearings, or both, instead of ceramic?

  • @Eidolon1andOnly

    @Eidolon1andOnly

    6 ай бұрын

    What about a layer of fiberglass between each layer of balls?

  • @Eidolon1andOnly

    @Eidolon1andOnly

    6 ай бұрын

    What about trying to use silica dessicant beads?

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Also, huge thanks to Chris for coming out and shooting with me. If you want to check out his channel here, it is:youtube.com/@christopherkirish?si=bB5QhB4o7Zqs7Atl

  • @implausibleimpossiblehypot4006

    @implausibleimpossiblehypot4006

    6 ай бұрын

    Do you think that fine shards of a hard ceramic or metal added to your resin would help shred bullet fragments while traveling

  • @DillonWaffles
    @DillonWaffles6 ай бұрын

    Wow. We’ve all just been christmased. What a heck of a fella.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas!

  • @johnladuke6475
    @johnladuke64755 ай бұрын

    You might see interesting improvements if you include fabric layers between your packed layers of spheres. Make a little layer cake with fabric on the faces and you might see less fragments flying out of the plate. I wonder if layering fabric might improve the performance of the smaller diameter beads.

  • @MrJangleo
    @MrJangleo6 ай бұрын

    Sounds like you need a 3d printer to make those molds. Would be cheap and easy even if you outsourced it. Also have you considered using plastic/metal chicken wire to hold the balls in matrix. I have done research on LIBA and other ceramic ball armor before, Its been a while but i remember that the minimum required diameter to stop a threat being 50-75% (my memory is leaning towards 75% though) of the diameter of the projectile striking the ball. Have you also considered using cylindrical/cylpeb media HCP stacked with spheres.

  • @christopherkirish

    @christopherkirish

    6 ай бұрын

    I think he works with someone that has a 3d printer.. I bet it would look great in a clear-ish mold as well...

  • @zer0nix

    @zer0nix

    6 ай бұрын

    If he's casting aluminum anyway, he could just make the molds out of aluminum using a lost wax / foam method, where carved wax/foam is packed into sand and molten aluminum is poured in to take its place. I don't know if the armor could be made that way though, where the balls are stacked and then sealed in wax. That would be really interesting to see!

  • @death31313
    @death313136 ай бұрын

    I had a really similar idea, but I never tried making any armor pieces to test. I guess the Soviets beat me to it before I was even born. Really cool stuff, thank you for taking the time to test this stuff.

  • @DannySullivanMusic
    @DannySullivanMusic6 ай бұрын

    This video made for a nice Christmas present!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks brother, hope you enjoy. Merry Christmas!

  • @RavemastaJ
    @RavemastaJ6 ай бұрын

    Looks like a great material for leg/arm armor. Great time to release it! Merry Christmas!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    I do like how you can easily cast this stuff into different shapes. The possibilities are endless!

  • @Sol_Invictus777

    @Sol_Invictus777

    6 ай бұрын

    depends on how heavy they would be

  • @RavemastaJ

    @RavemastaJ

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Sol_Invictus777 He lists how heavy they are in the PDF.

  • @Sol_Invictus777

    @Sol_Invictus777

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RavemastaJ thanks

  • @rheymans
    @rheymans6 ай бұрын

    Simply cannot wait for 2.0 of this video. Wow. This is leaps and bounds above the level of innovation we’re getting in what IMO are the best plates on the market right now. Love the info. Keep it coming!!!

  • @rheymans

    @rheymans

    6 ай бұрын

    Would also be curious to see a smaller diameter triple stacked. Based on that stacking research it looks like the third layer completely fills the voids left by the first two. If you had 3-4 layers of 3 or 4 mm ceramic it would still be light and flexible, but cover all the gaps. I’m curious if it might create smaller fragmentation areas making it even more multi-hit capable. This has my brain going! Thanks so much for this work!

  • @calebbearup4282
    @calebbearup42826 ай бұрын

    I was watching a video recently on applying cooler than air paint to surfaces and in it the author broke down the exact ratio of size balls to fill up the space the most. I don't recall now obviously but if you put in balls that were 10mm in diameter then balls the size of sand it wouldn't let the epoxy in between. But maybe if you did something the size of 10mm then filled in the spaces with something 3mm then poured the epoxy on/in you'd have less risk of the bullet passing through pure epoxy while also staying thin

  • @richardjohnson8009
    @richardjohnson80096 ай бұрын

    What a coincidence, we had the same idea, thinking further I would say that potentially the gaps between balls could be problematic, my second thought was maybe cubes* arranged in a diamond 2 layer configuration with 45 degree angles outward would be more ideal, the idea would be that the projectile is turned which makes it easier to catch with composites or fibers because the increase in surface area distributes the forces, another one I wanted to try would be just rocks in a matrix like the smooth pebbles you can get at home depot. great video!

  • @camarad777
    @camarad7776 ай бұрын

    Finally !

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    It's a Christmas miracle! Lol, hope you like it

  • @michaelborror4399

    @michaelborror4399

    6 ай бұрын

    Maybe I'll get around to banging some of these industrial ductile steel 1/4" 4×10"s into scales one of these days, sure is a fun hobby though?, and sounds like some scales kinda like overlapping u's not like the newer hexagonal "dragon scales" could be good too though, although the light and probably fluffier so in a thinner layer, pressed hard wood experiment on nile red or somethin 2 or 3 months ago was pretty cool too, too bad it seems harder to make it out to the forge or harder aluminum 7075 machining table with lionentech or maybe dark mane forgeworks is more expensive and challenging these days, but drinking my alkaline water with rock minerals and not getting calf cramps or stiff jaw muscles when yawning at the watering well is pretty great anyway too? Great work though! And I'm definitely liking my nice lt rucksack and helmets even though my dad got me a leather luggage duffel? And when I think I'm glad I didn't get the expensive thermal monocular; I realize I probably just lose money in the stock market with the corporations goin on strike anyway, lol? Think I have some of that symtac resin and alot of some other type resin that hopefully won't go bad anytime too though? I got everybody miniature carrying cases that are pretty great as presents making for nice decorations even if you don't wanna play warhammer or whatever in the beginning I think at a certain age too though?

  • @TheFredmac
    @TheFredmac6 ай бұрын

    Composite panels have a honeycomb sandwiched between cloth and resin faces. One material used for the honeycomb is aluminum. The aluminum honeycomb is made with gluing together sheets. The glue is put on the sheets in stripes so that when the sheets are pulled it creates the honeycomb. An aluminum honeycomb would hold the balls in place while the resin is applied. I think this would be an easy way to make curved plates. Also, the arrays of balls could be stacked to eliminate holes.

  • @Th3_Gael
    @Th3_Gael6 ай бұрын

    Nile red with bulletproof wood video an hour long and a meow ceramic video, an hour long. It sure is Christmas folks

  • @Zane-It
    @Zane-It6 ай бұрын

    It's a Christmas miracle

  • @unprofessionalgopnik6827
    @unprofessionalgopnik68276 ай бұрын

    Best Christmas gift

  • @jeffhuntley2921
    @jeffhuntley29216 ай бұрын

    Amazing amount of data! Awesome

  • @MoonMoon-gu2ge
    @MoonMoon-gu2ge6 ай бұрын

    Always excited to see a new episode! Merry Christmas 🎅

  • @twestgard2
    @twestgard23 ай бұрын

    Amazing results. Congratulations

  • @aquariumengineer
    @aquariumengineer6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for putting your time, ideas and money into these tests!

  • @Killer_Space_2726-GCP
    @Killer_Space_2726-GCP6 ай бұрын

    Very good video, very interesting results!

  • @sinisterthoughts2896
    @sinisterthoughts28966 ай бұрын

    What a great Christmas gift! Merry Christmas! Love that sweater, and fantastic research.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed it! It was fun compiling all this information down. I love that sweater as well.

  • @jarmann8727
    @jarmann87275 ай бұрын

    Dude I need more I’ve listened to this video 3 times now. Very informative and cool.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks, brother. I'll be revisiting this concept soon. First, I gotta finish this vehicle armor system that people have been waiting for. I might use this method for some sample tiles for the vehicle, depending on if I can get the materials in time.

  • @DamienHanma
    @DamienHanma6 ай бұрын

    Best Christmas gift... MORE ARMOUR VIDEOS! 🛡️🔰

  • @MilGrip76
    @MilGrip76Ай бұрын

    This was very well done. Comprehensive and engaging. Hope you have a creative outlet in your day job for all that brain power 👍

  • @BuckF0eJiden
    @BuckF0eJiden6 ай бұрын

    Something you may consider is "doping" your ceramic strike face with tungsten carbide balls. Use the 10mm aluminum ceramics, with 3mm (1/8") tungsten carbide balls filling in the gaps. The Tungsten Carbide balls are pretty heavy, but they're extremely hard. Rockwell C90, if memoru serves. Theyre also fairly inexpensive in comparison to Zirconia ceramics. Ive found Tungsten Carbide balls at 1/8" as cheap as $80 for a 100 pack. Lay the tungten balls down first with a thin layer of your casting media just covering them, then stack your aluminum ceramics in w hexagonal packing arrangement over them. Basically, your Tungsten would be the first contact, followed by the aluminum. Id also wrap my plate, including the strike face, in Kevlar or Fiberglass, including the backer. This will help prevent delamination, and spall.

  • @sbrunscheon
    @sbrunscheon6 ай бұрын

    This is a ridiculously well presented experiment. Truly impressed and eagerly await what further designs you will test!

  • @sirusgalt5931
    @sirusgalt59316 ай бұрын

    Great video. Keep simple priorities to stay on track like consistent armor rating, low cost materials, weight, thickness, flexibility.

  • @ohslowpoke4720
    @ohslowpoke47206 ай бұрын

    Encasing two layers of ceramics in a thin layer of cast Aluminum to hold the balls to mimic the setup used by by the T-64's turret, and then further encasing that in HDPE and a fibre backer/front to contain fragments of aluminum and ceramics would probably make something interesting. I'm someone that studies vehicle-type armors and it's sort of interesting that you're taking inspiration from them as much as from infantry-armors. Modern light AFVs used perforated ultra-high high hardness steels, often mixed with thin ceramics as "outer" layers to breakup the incoming round or cause the penetrator to "yaw" (aka, shift violently from side to side) before it impacts the main layer of the armor to reduce it's effectiveness. I always wondered if something similar to chobham-type armor (thin plates of steel arranged at angles) to 'catch' and ablate the incoming projectile wouldn't work- the Russian T-55 had a very simplified version of this as add-on armor which was a bunch of thin plates with epoxy resin in between each layers, effectively forcing the projectile to tilt as it had to break the surface of each plate.

  • @Plastikdoom
    @Plastikdoom5 ай бұрын

    Like your updates on your armor journey, definitely interesting with the ceramic balls. A tip for the resin portion, if you have it slightly angled when pouring like you said, but tape a back massager to the bottom and have it on as you pour, and maybe pour a little slower, shouldn’t have any significant airbubbles in it, I used to do concrete and we used big ass vibrators to remove air in walls and such. They could make your arms go numb as hell on large pours. Anyways I commented a few times back in the day, about plates I made, and how they were armored, seems like you used some of what I said, combined with other comments I seen and your own ideas, so pretty cool. I’d be interested in seeing one of these done with the 6mm ones, but separation inbetween the two layers by a little bit, with like hdpe, or Kevlar or good fiberglass mat with resin inbetween them, them more mat of your choice behind the second layer, maybe a couple layers on the face too, then balls and resin, repeat, with the face piece long enough to go up the sides, fold over and be resin soaked, with a backer plate of mat full width, as an attempt to help hold it all together after taking multiple hits.

  • @pauliewalnuts5241
    @pauliewalnuts52416 ай бұрын

    Glad to see you back friend

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks brother, next video will be sooner than 6 months, lol. I actually have another finished, just have to finalize the edits.

  • @wj6063
    @wj60636 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas!🎄🎁🎀

  • @timwestberg2388
    @timwestberg23886 ай бұрын

    Flex seal is only good for making row boats out of screen doors.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    For real! Man, that stuff is junk, lol. I hate it so much

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    The paste was ok for coating though

  • @timwestberg2388

    @timwestberg2388

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Techthisoutmeow I hadn't gotten to that part of the video yet when I commented. I enjoy watching your process and hope to see your channel keep growing. Looking forward to seeing more of your vehicle project. Hope you are having a merry Christmas.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    @timwestberg2388 Thanks, brother! Merry Christmas to you as well. I'm excited about the vehicle build, I got some fun designs that I think everyone will appreciate.

  • @abdulalibux1416
    @abdulalibux14165 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I will be designing and making my own armor and armored vehicle this year.

  • @jeffhuntley2921
    @jeffhuntley29216 ай бұрын

    Modular car armor sounds awesome

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm very excited to showcase that concept! I've been tossing around that idea for some time, and now I'm finally ready to finish construction of it and finalize testing.

  • @ReavinBlue
    @ReavinBlue6 ай бұрын

    So the ideia is 8mm and 10mm double stack, porcelain and alumina, with the resine I forgot the name but its slightly harder, and a kevlar backer! Right? we might aswell start telling other youtubers and users to just START TESTING! you've been carrying this community on your back!

  • @non-applicable3548
    @non-applicable35486 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    And to you as well

  • @ReavinBlue
    @ReavinBlue6 ай бұрын

    Oh HOW I HAVE WAITED!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, sorry for the long wait. The next one shouldn't take 6 months before uploading lol.

  • @nickdavis5420
    @nickdavis54206 ай бұрын

    This is interesting your getting to the flexibility of a possible power armor component .

  • @cinnabar8610
    @cinnabar86106 ай бұрын

    Marry Christmas!🎉

  • @roblund82
    @roblund826 ай бұрын

    Nice christmas gift. Thank you

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it

  • @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz
    @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz6 ай бұрын

    Downloaded. I don't think I can thank you enough.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    It's not a problem. I hope it helps. I plan on making more of these for bigger projects. So check back later!

  • @GalloPazzesco
    @GalloPazzesco5 ай бұрын

    God Bless you. Subscribed, bell rung, commented, upvoted, liked, shared, commented,upvoted, liked, shared,.... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme5086 ай бұрын

    AWESOME!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks, hope you enjoy.

  • @erikh8685
    @erikh86855 ай бұрын

    Amazing!

  • @doprisi
    @doprisi6 ай бұрын

    Think the biggest strength of this arrangement with the elastomer resin with embedded spheres, was its capabilities in not blowing apart and proof to be a real good multi-hit strikeface. Good and insightful video Tech, only thing i kinda missed is close up of all the hits with what bullet.. How buffman makes the final tear down of the sapi plates he tests, where you get a good view of the damage!

  • @jonatanjenen3573
    @jonatanjenen35736 ай бұрын

    About time for an upload jkjk love you bro

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I'm hoping to have another video up sooner than 6 months this time.

  • @mistaBorg
    @mistaBorg6 ай бұрын

    I remember I said something about armor plate balls along time ago but I didn't think it'd work this well. maybe trying to layer them even more like in voids between three balls of 10mm you could insert a small 4 or 3mm, or just layer them further than in the vid, in layers of balls like first layer only 10mm second layer 8mm third layer 6 mm, this could help avoid pockets without armor. I also got into the idea of weaving kevlar fibers with metal fibers like in steel wool, it is time consuming but it could solve delamination issues that would occur in simple layer to layer adhesion.

  • @Hati321
    @Hati3216 ай бұрын

    I love this channel.

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks, more to come soon!

  • @backwoodsbrooksknives4625
    @backwoodsbrooksknives46256 ай бұрын

    I had an idea to use ceramic beads from a bead blaster. I was thinking of using them in between layers of Kevlar and carbon fiber roving and epoxy.

  • @Jdub8025
    @Jdub80256 ай бұрын

    You could also probably 3-D print a tray with little indentations like a primer, flip tray, except in a different pattern to start your hexagonal base layer

  • @marsiloficino5060
    @marsiloficino50605 ай бұрын

    Awesome shirt!

  • @milekhh
    @milekhh6 ай бұрын

    Gift for Christmas!

  • @MidnightSon98
    @MidnightSon982 ай бұрын

    I’d be interested in seeing how going with smaller balls stacked higher would work out. MSE sells 1mm and 2mm, stacked 10 high the 1mm would be stacked about as high as a single stack 8mm, and since each individual ball is just as hard and just as dense, the same amount of energy should be expended on a 1mm ball as an 8mm ball. Admittedly I could just be bad at physics though

  • @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz
    @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz6 ай бұрын

    Not that you need notes, I'm so impressed. This is a, "This is genius why has it taken this long" scenario. But; Two Notes. Intersperse smaller rounds between the larger ones. On both sides to tighten up the matrix. Or, at least in the strike face. Second? This is awesome, you could make molds for a full body suit at home and the cost it should be low enough that anyone could afford to make and maintain it. You know, like a cyberknight. I didn't want to say this but upon further consideration? It probably might need a thin sheet metal to pre-deform the bullet as well. But, I'm talking perfection at that level.

  • @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz

    @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz

    6 ай бұрын

    ! Scalemail.

  • @laimonasrake8367

    @laimonasrake8367

    6 ай бұрын

    North Holywood here I come

  • @zer0nix

    @zer0nix

    6 ай бұрын

    Bold of you to think north Hollywood isn't taking notes. If this armor is affordable enough... Hey come to think of it, sheet metal might also help deflect an explosion. A thin layer wouldn't be enough on its own (unlike titanium, as demonstrated by tested with Adam Savage) but in combination with armor like this, who knows? Most likely it will just send those porcelain balls into your flesh though.

  • @gamecubekingdevon3
    @gamecubekingdevon36 ай бұрын

    merry christmas !

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    To you as well Devon.

  • @Jdub8025
    @Jdub80256 ай бұрын

    This article would be a great read for you when it comes to considering different types of silicon nitride balls if you ever went that route. Even if you did a mix where the 3 mm gaps were filled with them or had them as your contact later, because you could decrease material density in layers as the projectile losses velocity saving cost while remaining within your priorities to fit your goals

  • @jndvs95
    @jndvs954 ай бұрын

    Ive been putting a lot of thought into HDPE plates and my theory of the best system is a thinner layer of ceramics on top of a thicker block of HDPE wrapped in the fiberglass. I've thought about throwing a thinner layer of steel behind the HDPE but i dont want too massive of a plate. Weight is not as much of a concern for me as I am a reasonably big guy. If im throwing plates on though, I have too many responsibilities to worry about mobility over protection.

  • @benedictpasco653
    @benedictpasco6536 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Wow, you didn't have to do that. I appreciate the kindness, brother. That's very thoughtful of you.

  • @DylanDraper1
    @DylanDraper16 ай бұрын

    This concept was mentioned in the black autumn book series, I have been curious about it

  • @robertsimpson6324
    @robertsimpson63246 ай бұрын

    Way thing's are going this information may e of use thank you

  • @dagonatorish
    @dagonatorish5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing all your research! I’ve run across an inexpensive and lightweight fabric you might be interested in trying (I will also tinker with it) Malarkey Secure Start Plus Underlayment for roofs. It seems to be very durable but lightweight. I’m curious about how it will do with me reducing the number of layers of Kevlar or fiberglass cloth. I will use in combination with porcelain tiles and kydex to start and laminate with Kevlar.

  • @zer0nix
    @zer0nix6 ай бұрын

    I wonder how steel bbs would do perhaps to fill in gaps! Being hollow they won't add much weight, and the deformation should absorb a lot of energy! Also I think I read about a tank armor that was essentially steel bbs encased in aluminum - which also should be easy to make since aluminum melts at an easily achievable temp!

  • @ChucksSEADnDEAD

    @ChucksSEADnDEAD

    6 ай бұрын

    EDIT: silly me, this was mentioned in the video ahahah Some T-64/T-72 armor was also cast iron with embedded ceramic spheres. The early attempts failed because the ceramic balls were held in place by steel mesh and the heat from the cast melted it. Took a few years to get it right.

  • @skullthrower8904
    @skullthrower89046 ай бұрын

    Youre a real ballistic alchemist look at those BALLS lmao Merry christmas friend 😁

  • @christopherkirish
    @christopherkirish6 ай бұрын

    Finally...!!!!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Don't I get enough of you at work?

  • @BuckF0eJiden
    @BuckF0eJiden6 ай бұрын

    Ideally, for multiple sized balls, you'd want your smaller size to fit between the gaps of the bigger ones. You could go a step further and fill those gaps with powdered silicon carbide, but at that point, I doubt you'd get much benefit... but maybe? Either way, GREAT idea for SRT armor at least.

  • @wanderer7361
    @wanderer73616 ай бұрын

    So syntactic foam then. Neat. Edit: Just saw the end - look up syntactic titanium.

  • @billdomb
    @billdomb6 ай бұрын

    Nice piece of WORK! Any data on weight per square in of each variety?

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Sure is! If you look at the pdf I made with this video, you can see all the weights listed for each plate. The pdf link can be found in the description for the video.

  • @richardhicklin5140
    @richardhicklin51405 ай бұрын

    vacuum forming might help with the first optioins

  • @Modern_Warrior_School
    @Modern_Warrior_SchoolАй бұрын

    @Techthisoutmeow I wonder how a plate with layers that slanted within the plate would perform. It would certainly pose some challenges when it comes to making them, but I'd think it would do one of two things. 1, depending on velocity the round may be more likely to deflect (probably within the plate itself which would make the round need to go through more material to penetrate the cab). If this is the case you could effectively use less materials for the same stopping power. On the other hand since the round would basically be impacting the edge of the plate, it may be inherently weaker. I can see it going either way.

  • @gsestream
    @gsestream6 ай бұрын

    outstanding, also a second channel if you feel urge to put out unfiltered material on the side, like meow 2. so how about the sand mixed with resin tile sand bags. sand resin direct cast would be the easiest and fastest manufacturing process. yes plastic concrete cast in as tiles plates cloth etc. or plastcrete for fun naming. maybe a compilation of the best results as a conclusion as a release. sand spheres are very small tho. and a happy new year! :)

  • @gsestream

    @gsestream

    9 күн бұрын

    Try dvd's as interleaved polycarbonate discs armor

  • @joseantoniosalazar4640
    @joseantoniosalazar46406 ай бұрын

    Nice.

  • @paulishism
    @paulishism4 ай бұрын

    Hemispheres might be a better shape to use. Their flat base would offer more resistance than a round face. Being half the size means that you would get twice as many layers. You would also end up with a pyramid effect where 2 layers of spheres would turn into 16 hemispheres at the bottom, or instead of damaging a single sphere the bullet actually hits 30 different hemispheres.

  • @tinkeringclaws5559
    @tinkeringclaws55594 ай бұрын

    noice!

  • @codyway7424
    @codyway74246 ай бұрын

    Very nice work! Couple of questions. Based on where you are now, what would you predict the weight and thickness to be for a 10x12" with the 8mm porcelain with the fiberglass backer?

  • @Xyg0t
    @Xyg0t28 күн бұрын

    How about using a stainless steel mesh layer at the front layer to stiffen and help break up the round. Not sure how effective it would be but I've always thought about using that to make a plate, maybe multiple layers.

  • @tokyowarfare6729
    @tokyowarfare67293 ай бұрын

    could you try in onen of your armors to add pre stresed strains? similar as done in construction for large spans. Strech the strains without pouring resin and once cure cut them. This would get the plate compressed Horizontal and Vertically. I believe this could reduce bullet penetration by causing higher friction needed to penetrate. I may be wrong do, just an idea.

  • @Plastikdoom
    @Plastikdoom5 ай бұрын

    As to length of the video, for me personally you could make this video 4 hours long and I’d watch it from start to finish, but I’m weird like that. And love off the wall shit like this, because it’s the same things I generally think about and do at times. So far, the best, as in most bang for your buck in effectiveness, cost and weight I’ve found is your good ol bondo 12oz woven fiberglass mat, you get about as much performance as you can expect out of fiberglass, st low cost and easy to afford, with the lowest weight you’re gonna find that performs. Sore better options for glass mat…but cost goes up pretty quick and weight too. To the point you’d be better off just getting Kevlar as better performance and lower weight with only a little more cost. Compared to high end boat glass mat.

  • @Plastikdoom
    @Plastikdoom5 ай бұрын

    And as far as casting aluminum…you’ll want high mag content, then have to heat treat for optimal results, that will give you close to steel levels. Obviously lighter, but…if you could do cast steel, with the ceramic inside, much better…but a lower cost and just as good. Not to mention easier option, using a harder/more plastic resin, with just enough to cover the balls…then sandwich them inbetween steel plates, and stitch weld in place, with ceramic strike face being slightly compressed will great strengthen the steel plate and make the steel and ceramic perform better than on their own. Or not being sandwiched so tightly…just saying. That method honestly works better for flat tiles. Or rods of ceramic though. Be interesting to see though with balls, and maybe an epoxy instead of soft/flexible resin or plastic resin. Like a concrete anchor epoxy that unused in my plates, do the same thing but sandwich and weld under pressure…I just used mechanical clamps, and 3 layers of 16 GA carbon sheet metal, each layer planished. With only epoxy holding them together and clamps as it set for days, to ensure full cure, plus couldn’t get to testing until a couple days after I wanted too. And they performed phenomenally. I’m looking to revisit with a couple things I learned since then. And more importantly tools I didn’t have access to, that I do now. When I did my hard core tests…was 12-13 years ago, I didn’t have all the tools and equipment I do now. I’m looking to go less composites in some places, maybe different grade of composites, and definitely differing layers of steel, most likely planished then annealed and either face hardened/through hardened and tempered…with a thicker layer of backing steel. Doing that. Should, outperform my previous plate. But shit also costs a lot more than then, I could make a full size plate and side plate for $95 dollars…in 2011, that out performed the ESAPI’s I was issued. And carried before that. So $190 dollars would get you two normal sized plates, front and back and two side plates, standard size, aka medium, in 2011 bucks. I haven’t looked at the price of doing it again lately, but I’m guessing about twice the cost nowadays, plus the amount of work I plan on putting into them, and the tools needed, of you didn’t have them, it’d be equal cost or cheaper to buy plates that do as good/slightly worse than making them I’m guessing. So if you only want one set of plates, cheaper to buy good, proven ones. I’m doing this more for curiosity and to see how viable it is, to make the absolute best plates, out commonly available, relatively cheap materials. And some tools like welders and good clamps/hydraulic presses, heat treating with torches, etc. just to see if I can make one that out performs even more, with different techniques and tools, same materials overall. And more time invested

  • @r.gilman4261
    @r.gilman42616 ай бұрын

    Any thoughts to encapsulation, thinking wetted out fiberglass or HDPE fabric. This may help with edge effect hits and delamination. are you familiar with nhe next generatioon of tank armor using NXRA/Reflective foil type system?

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus42526 ай бұрын

    Since resident heats up whenever you mix it do you think if you mixed up a stick of hot glue it would be hot enough to incorporate it and make it even enough to spread consistently?

  • @derlon858
    @derlon8586 ай бұрын

    what if you use smaller spheres on top and or/behind the larger spheres to fil the gaps of the larger spheres?

  • @jonathanpawlowski3626
    @jonathanpawlowski36265 ай бұрын

    @techthisoutmeow hey what do you think about trying melted hdpe forced into ceramic wool. Cant afford to try myself.

  • @primarycolorman
    @primarycolorman6 ай бұрын

    Have you considered trying this with crushed fireplace glass? Or adding a harder strike face to strip jackets?

  • @IrzumMalik
    @IrzumMalik5 ай бұрын

    Hello sir, Selam from pakistan. I love what you are doing, i have my textbook with armor ideas and many of them are similar to yours. One more I will share is the use of different grit of Alumna or ceramic balls to get a better packing density, i.e. a smaller ball that can fit easily between the gaps of 4 balls. Another idea i have written is to make sandpaper armor. Is it possible? Sloped sand paper armor. I hope you play with the geometry of the ceramics in the future as well. I am gonna binge watch all your videos backwards. Hail the algorithm gods who suggested this to me!! and thankyou!

  • @oliverevans363
    @oliverevans3635 ай бұрын

    What about is you use tpu instead like what it increase flexibility or what other affects it would have on liba armour

  • @milekhh
    @milekhh6 ай бұрын

    I think you could get hands on some m855a1/m80a1/ap-m2 to test if ceramic can hold up against hardeneed tip/core. Or send them to buffman range - this guy could test it for you I guess.

  • @Sol_Invictus777
    @Sol_Invictus7776 ай бұрын

    What if you used a 10mm tungsten or titanium alloy ball bearing ball? Would that be more or less effective? Now it would be a lot more expensive but would the effectiveness be worth it

  • @olejnik5165
    @olejnik51656 ай бұрын

    Were u ever looking at modern tank armor as inspiration? I imagine certain armor compositions could be used in infantry armor like Idk Textolite?

  • @brynduffy
    @brynduffy4 ай бұрын

    Aluminum oxide is 50% heavier than porcelain. 3.6 grams per centimeter cubed versus 2.4 grams per centimeter cubed. So the question is, does aluminum oxide provide 50% more protection?

  • @Armor-Innovations
    @Armor-Innovations4 ай бұрын

    Have you thought about trying sapphire? I cant find a cheap source but maybe you can.

  • @Max-om7bk
    @Max-om7bk5 ай бұрын

    I'm curious if you had more thoughts about why the porcelain performed so well compared to actual ballistic ceramic material?

  • @ATruckCampbell
    @ATruckCampbell6 ай бұрын

    I wonder if the porcelain balls can be substituted with cast iron balls, as it is cheaper and still very hard.

  • @matthewfergusons4318
    @matthewfergusons43185 ай бұрын

    Have you ever tried using some of the reasons that they use and make a dioramas and some models that stuff

  • @darkenblade986
    @darkenblade9865 ай бұрын

    results at 39:00 I do rec you watch the rest of the video tho.

  • @everythingballistic8812
    @everythingballistic88125 ай бұрын

    this could be a dumb idea but what if you used prince ruperts drops instead of the other stuff(didnt feel like spelling) cause that could work really well. you could make a bunch of them and the break the tail off ( some would be lost this way).

  • @jimmyslim1628
    @jimmyslim16286 ай бұрын

    Any idea how to figure how heavy it would be to armor an entire car? 4 door Crown Vic. Both doors, firewall, inside the entire trunk. I'd guess maybe 300 pounds but maybe I'm way off.

  • @zer0nix

    @zer0nix

    6 ай бұрын

    The firewall shouldn't be necessary since the engine is so massive, according to tests by Paul Harrell. As someone who has been looking into custom building an RV, the weight adds up pretty quickly!

  • @Techthisoutmeow

    @Techthisoutmeow

    6 ай бұрын

    Funny enough, my next set of videos is all about vehicle armor! I've been developing a full vehicle armor system for some time, and I'm finally dropping it. So stay tuned. First, I'll be doing an update video outlining the project. It'll also have a full pdf like this project did!

  • @user-xz4fc6fv5r
    @user-xz4fc6fv5r6 ай бұрын

    you need to compare the balls with ordinary tiles . which will be lighter and thinner?

  • @henkerschnief4885
    @henkerschnief48854 ай бұрын

    Would multiple laminated layers of gorilla glas sheets work?

  • @BrokeWrench
    @BrokeWrench6 ай бұрын

    The porcelain crushing/shattering would have disapated a lot of energy where the alumina would have redirected but not disapated the energy

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus42526 ай бұрын

    Also, aluminum bronze is almost as strong as steel and you can cast it still.

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