Husqvarna 372xp X-Torq vs. Original Edition Differences & What Straight Gassed Damage Looks Like

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Tried to keep it basic and "light", not too lectur-ey while still pointing out some of the more important differences. Not my favorite subject, but since I have to rip a pile of them apart to build the cases into a better place, might as well talk about that as its a question that shows up frequently.
AND I didn't point out that while the nylon caged bearings began to show up before 2010, they are now the norm as they populate every X-Torq 372 variant I have seen to this point in time.

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  • @allenhuling598
    @allenhuling5986 жыл бұрын

    Always enjoy getting to ride along on your builds, Walt....Thanks! It may not look like it outside yet, but Spring is coming!!

  • @paulmall4162
    @paulmall41623 жыл бұрын

    Always love these videos. You probably are one of the most knowledgeable person I know of when it comes to any saw

  • @chrisradla
    @chrisradla5 жыл бұрын

    i enjoyed your comments, and appreciated speeding up play at different assembly stages

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer5 жыл бұрын

    More great priceless observations! Thank you Walt. Aloha

  • @antoniomorgado5304
    @antoniomorgado53046 жыл бұрын

    Good vídeo!!!! Nice explanation! I prefer my original edition of 372 xp! 2001 built! A strong saw!!!! and my 1989 husqvarna 61! a good saw! Have a nice day! Hope to see more vídeos!!!!

  • @jrui2953
    @jrui29533 жыл бұрын

    Muchas gracias, has eliminado todas mis dudas.

  • @dmb10101
    @dmb101013 жыл бұрын

    Master class. Teach master class.

  • @dentondunn4346
    @dentondunn4346 Жыл бұрын

    I just traded for my first Husquavarna and it’s a 372xp x torque according to where you said decompression valve is located

  • @bryanmarks4070
    @bryanmarks40706 жыл бұрын

    That’s pretty cool how did you learn to do all that. I’m diving down that road too but with Stihl. I work for the forest service in California and every station has a pile of broken saws the tags always say (broken) so I’m staring to play dr. Saw. Cool video.

  • @aaronselby1761
    @aaronselby17612 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell me what crank shafts those were? I buy a lot of parts for 372s and it's great to know about issues with certain brands. Thanks.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke66473 жыл бұрын

    I will tell you - my new 372 grows on me. It is easy to start, easy to tune and I have not had as many development problems with it as I had with my Ms 440 and 460. It was somewhat of a learning curve for me, because the assembly is not the same as a Stihl. Regardless, it is running and cutting good, now. The one dynamic difference I have noted is it does not maintain its tune over a wide range of temperature and humidity as does a Stihl. It is not unusual for my 372 to loose 1,000 rpms if the temperature or humidity drops substantially from one day to another.

  • @user-ws8uo2vm3h
    @user-ws8uo2vm3h6 жыл бұрын

    Farmertec crankcase 372 work well. I think this is the best part for 372 from farmertec) But bearings and seals can be thrown out immediately...

  • @ottohonkala6861
    @ottohonkala68613 жыл бұрын

    no muffler opening at all after all that work?

  • @austindenotter19
    @austindenotter196 жыл бұрын

    The saw shop I use in nwest wisconsin does not usually rebuild an x torq. He simply reverts/rebuilds to the original 372 xp or he encourages us loggers to purchase a new 562xp or if in bigger timber a new 576xp depending on how bad the damage is. It seems like the 372 xtorqs are more likely to suffer a catastrophic failure than the original 372 xp.

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    I better not say a thing....just keep recording my experiences..:)

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    BUT I really like my 562's, really the right blend for me. And the XPW iteration of the 372 for larger work...to old to hang on to anything bigger at this point in life.

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    And I thought about that approach...but that too gets expensive to get right....explanation is in the video for those who really listen. I've had a few come through with just the top end and intake related stuff swapped...:) Not a fan of that approach. Actually the best AND lest expensive fix usually is a better bearings and a new Top End. Thats my preference for real customers. And the folks who work with me get that new top end with the "X-Torq" dividers gutted, solves a pile of issues. Think a hint of that mod sneaked into a video a year or two back...:) Not ready to really go through that here to the general public, just for my local folks.

  • @austindenotter19

    @austindenotter19

    6 жыл бұрын

    Does tthe 372xpw oem 75 cc top end need port work or is it stronger but just as responsive as an old 372?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thats a loaded question! None of them need port work! The XPW has smaller transfers to bring the power band down a few hundred RPM's. But while it likes to run at a lower RPM it makes good power, and is pretty snappy. Design to pull a longer bar west coast style vs. have the higher RPM's a standard 372 has. So it just depends on what you are looking for. I like a XPW with an 8 pin. Easy power.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke66473 жыл бұрын

    You put an Xtorq air filter holder on this saw. Did you use an Xtorq carb, too? The reason I knew it was an Xtorq base was because I saw the divider in it. The XP version does not have a divider.

  • @ProteusDIY
    @ProteusDIY2 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. Great video. I learned a lot as I have (7) 372xp/xt that need to be brought back to life from a tree service. I had one question - why did you get rid of the decomp? I thought with the bigger cc saws like this it's useful to have. Thanks!

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is, when I was younger and stronger removing decomps eliminated a source of leaks and the increased compression made them start faster... assuming I had the arm strength. Now older...I'm putting them back in some saws. In fact my 562HTSS has too much compression for the pull start.. was breaking them left and right so put one in that saw too

  • @ProteusDIY

    @ProteusDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@afleetcommand Thank you for replying. And a big thank you for putting out all this great content. I'm sure plenty of beginners like me are learning a tremendous amount and it is thanks to teachers like you willing to take the time to share their knowledge and experience that makes it possible. But not all teachers are created equal and you, sir, are definitely one of the good ones. Many thanks.

  • @retroguardian4802
    @retroguardian48022 жыл бұрын

    Do you know if Farmertec makes all the original 372 parts? I haven't found a whole complete set on Ebay or there website. I don't mind buying everything seperate but I'm having issues finding a crankcase that isn't XP. I thought maybe using 365 362 371 cases but I'm not sure if they are xp as well. I want just an original 372 build. Thanks for any help!

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    2 жыл бұрын

    You prolly be more happy with the 281/288 kit, They have the 372 "kit" and it is complete. www.farmertec.com/US-STOCK-Farmertec-Complete-Aftermarket-Repair-Parts-For-Husqvarna-365-362-371-372-372XP-Chainsaw-Engine-Motor-2-4-Days-Delivery-Time-Fast-Shipping-For-US-Customers-Only-p1027644.html

  • @lightshine6044
    @lightshine60446 жыл бұрын

    Is it ok to use green crankcase gasket from Huztl for 372 or is that gasket bad?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    That gasket is fine

  • @barryshonbeck2006
    @barryshonbeck20062 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your videos and learning a lot! Can you take a case half from a 372 XP and a case half from a 372 XP XT, mate them together, and build a 372 XP (not XT) from it? I've got junk saws that often have one good side and I'd like to be able to build XP's using whatever halves are available.

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    2 жыл бұрын

    I guess u can, just with the older case the "relief" for the cylinder flange is less as well as the casting is smaller in that area. I would check to see the deck height is close enough before "marrying" those differential case halves together. But the case screw locations and center of the main bearing pockets should be close enough to get something running :) Would I recommend it ? no

  • @barryshonbeck2006

    @barryshonbeck2006

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@afleetcommand Thanks for the quick reply and insights. I don't currently have one of each to tear apart so this will have to wait but you bring up great points. I'll definitely check the deck height when the time comes.

  • @jacklowe3788
    @jacklowe37884 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed watching your videos - question please looking for saw that's as good as the pre torx newer 372 like the old model one of my friends has 2002 model, been great saw? Are them days gone now for saws as reliable as the older models? Saw some KZread guys liking the newer 562, as far as newer saws would that be good one to get today for years trouble free service from somebody who takes good care / maintenance? Thanks for all your informative videos, jack

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    4 жыл бұрын

    The newer X-torqs are sorted out...after 2016

  • @jacklowe3788

    @jacklowe3788

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@afleetcommand thanks then I'll go ahead & purchase 2018 used -

  • @ctlandscapemaintenancesolu494
    @ctlandscapemaintenancesolu4943 жыл бұрын

    not too many people have time for this shit nice job

  • @lightshine6044
    @lightshine60445 жыл бұрын

    Is it better to get rid of divider in air filter holder of 372 XTorq?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you have the understanding and skills, get rid of the divider from filter holder to cylinder and intake boot. Leave the divider in the carb, but die grind the intake port to a sharp edge on its divider, favoring the intake port to the crank case.... Deck the cylinder .020 and you have a running saw...:)

  • @purginss
    @purginss5 жыл бұрын

    I see how you twisted the tank to get it in, makes sense now. What is confusing is the xtorque stuff. What are the new Huztl chinese 372xp's? I'm trying to make 2 out of 2 clapped OE 372's and 1 Huztl 372. The Huztl says x torque, is a 2 ring piston but the decomp is on the side. I was told they were identical to a real 372xp but this would prove different, right?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    5 жыл бұрын

    OE and X-Torqs don't mix on any thing related to top ends and intake. I've extensively covered that in the video's. I would always prefer to build into an OE vs. X-torq.

  • @purginss

    @purginss

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@afleetcommand So are the Huztl 372's a copy of the OE or the xtorque? Or is the top end it's own thing? Since the OE is shorter, which would the huztl top cover, handle and brake handle fit?

  • @CHerille123
    @CHerille1233 жыл бұрын

    What caused the two saws to fail like they did? What could have prevented the failure, or what could have been done differently?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    3 жыл бұрын

    Assuming you are asking about the 372 x-torq's? A few things will help them. Run them a little "rich" by setting the "no load" RPM in the 12800-13000 vs the max 13300. Make absolutely certain you keep the fins clean so they cool properly. ( Any saw really ). Another subtle one is don't over tighten the chain. I've seen that a few times where I see the chain on the saw "twang" tight ... :) Husqvarna seems to have made some upgrades in the 2016/17 time frame as I don't see the ones made later than 2017 failing any faster than any other saw. All saws will eventually wear out but they seem to have the 372's to where they fit right in with the rest of the saws on the market for service life.

  • @toiletpaper5770

    @toiletpaper5770

    8 ай бұрын

    Should you still aim for 12800-13000 at 7000ft??

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke66476 жыл бұрын

    It is a wonder there was not an explosion due to how hot those connecting rod journals got. it had to be about 700 degrees to turn them that blue. Gas ignites a whole lot less than that. That could have been a real Molotov cocktail.

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    Think that saw was straight gassed.....waiting for the rest of the saws from that fellow to show up one at a time with issues related to the event....have had three so far....6 to go...:) Job security?( interestingly enough the ones i build with Nachi's haven't shown up yet, there are two over there I built in 2015 with Nachi's. Out lasted the new ones. :) )

  • @spcm2
    @spcm28 ай бұрын

    Hi. I have a Dynamac 50cc for the last 25years and now i want to buy a new saw. Would you recomend the 372xp or the 572xp? They are both x-torq right?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    8 ай бұрын

    Prolly a 565 or 372

  • @spcm2

    @spcm2

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your reply . I have now the opportunity to buy a 2011 372xp for less than 500$. I checked the serial Number and Its real. My doubt is If this is a xtorq or OE… the design of the xtorq is taller , even from the ones manufactured in 2011? And the decompression valve of the xtorq was already on top, in 2011? Thanks

  • @hnorrstrom
    @hnorrstrom5 жыл бұрын

    Don't you guys in the US have xpg versions with heating in the handles? They seem uncommon in US videos. They are very common here in sweden. Almost all my husqvarnas are xpg as well as most people i know. I have a 372 xpg older generation great saw. Really great video also thanks.

  • @austindenotter19

    @austindenotter19

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hard to get.

  • @hnorrstrom

    @hnorrstrom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@austindenotter19Thanks, that's interesting. Well it is a feature that breaks sometimes and it adds a bit of extra weight.

  • @andybecker2693
    @andybecker26932 жыл бұрын

    Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt. What an awesome song. You are showing your age on that one bud,lol!

  • @toiletpaper5770
    @toiletpaper57708 ай бұрын

    Should I still try for 12800-13000 at higher elevation??

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    8 ай бұрын

    yes

  • @toiletpaper5770

    @toiletpaper5770

    8 ай бұрын

    @@afleetcommand thanks for the reply

  • @jasonhill3902
    @jasonhill39026 жыл бұрын

    Was watching thinking to myself he's going to laugh when he goes to start that saw and it's missing the choke rod. :)

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    But I caught it....:)

  • @johnbernstein203
    @johnbernstein2036 жыл бұрын

    Walt.....is there ever a time when you use Loctite on any screws or bolts during assembly?

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    6 жыл бұрын

    not by brand, but put thread lock on a few models and locations

  • @garengtutorial8923
    @garengtutorial89238 күн бұрын

    Bagus

  • @mtbsobe
    @mtbsobe5 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 372 xpw not knowing all of these changes it's a fire wood saw will I regret this saw with all of the changes? Or anything to look out for or do differently while normal operations

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    5 жыл бұрын

    They run well, you won't be disappointed. The only thing is to NOT tune them "no load" past 13,000...that's it..

  • @mtbsobe

    @mtbsobe

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@afleetcommand did they stop putting the nylon cage in crank bearings

  • @mtbsobe

    @mtbsobe

    5 жыл бұрын

    I am impressed by it to bad it took me so long to get a decent size saw

  • @olafvidar9315
    @olafvidar93153 жыл бұрын

    So what's better, 372 xp or 372 xtorque?

  • @jameswilson322

    @jameswilson322

    3 жыл бұрын

    Xp all day

  • @redneck4741

    @redneck4741

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you don't mind, give a simple explanation of why xp is better. I have both and other than weight I can't tell a difference

  • @dentondunn4346

    @dentondunn4346

    Жыл бұрын

    @@redneck4741I just traded for one and says XP on it, can it possibly be an x torque?

  • @e954rr2
    @e954rr2 Жыл бұрын

    Can someone tell me if they share the same crank

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    Жыл бұрын

    What the original edition & X-torq? Yes and no. Dimensionally any crank from that series of saw will fit in any other. OE 365 will "fit" in a 372, 372 X-Torq in a Jonsered 2165. But there are slight differences within the series. Best to keep "XTorq" cranks in X-Torq saws and OE in OE saws with ONE exception. An X-Torq crank will work well with a 51.4 XPW top end as it has a heavier piston than the other "OE's" in the class. Bottom line is if your building a hobby saw, none of that matters so mix and match that cranks & pistons. If you are building a saw for a pro.... little differences will add life to your build if u keep the cranks matched to the piston (weight) they were designed for. The differences are small enough it won't matter for most.

  • @afleetcommand

    @afleetcommand

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIakk8GqYLmXn8o.html

  • @e954rr2

    @e954rr2

    Жыл бұрын

    @@afleetcommand thank you

  • @slavoljubslijepcevic2657
    @slavoljubslijepcevic26578 ай бұрын

    Super 372 xp....

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