The reason for the different image results when using night mode is that you were focusing on a darker area of the scenery. When using night mode the AI will use the focused object/area as base for the intensity of the exposure optimization. You can easily try this at home and even during the day. Point the camera at your TV, activate night mode and focus on the black TV screen. The camera will try to perfectly expose the dark screen and the rest of the picture will become quite bright. Now take the same picture again also with night mode, but instead focus on the white wall behind your TV. The overall picture will look much darker. The same thing happened when you chose to focus on something "more contrasty" when using the night mode. Next time focus on a lighter area of the scenery and you'll not get an over exposed picture 😉

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation, many thanks Patrick.

@patrickw.11

5 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer You're welcome. Glad I could help out!

@vincentmallari238

5 жыл бұрын

I need help on the pro mode on my p30 pro about the best iso and shutter speed for low light and bright areas

@patrickw.11

5 жыл бұрын

@@vincentmallari238 If you are new to the Pro Mode, the best thing to do is to take a couple of pictures of different objects in bright and low light in Auto Mode first. Now look at the ISO and shutter speed stats in the gallery so you get a feeling for the different values. Then you can start experimenting with subtle changes to these values in Pro Mode. In my experience for daylight pictures you can always choose a lower ISO than the Auto Mode.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

​Thanks for your helpful comments Patrick, will also follow-up on the P30 and its photo/video features, just uploaded a timelapse video from Barcelona, only native 720p but looks nice on smartphones and social media.

The problem with the most of us is...we could afford the phone but can’t afford that view. You really are lucky to have that amazing view.

@admirniksic8797

5 жыл бұрын

p900 does it better but p30 is a beast phone!

@zes7215

4 жыл бұрын

wrg, monex matrs not

3 picture with masterAI on really blows me away... Great job!

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nick

Loved this video. Real person, real test. Great narration, great voice. Natural and not acted. I very much enjoyed this review. Thank you. I learned a lot from this.

@zes7215

4 жыл бұрын

wrg, say any nmw s ok

F number is the aperture value. The lower the number the best for low light. If you shot in a bright day the F number would be high, probably between f16 to f22. It's like your eye, in bright sunlight you squint, and in darkness your eyes open wider to gain more light. Nice review by the way, well done 👍

could you please leave the drive link to raw images in description?

You should not focus on the far background (hyper focal distance).

Very experimental and practical video! Great Job!

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Fabulous video. Have ordered this phone today. Excited to see the camera features.

I'm in Croatia right now where I have an amazing view over the mountains and bright stars. Trying to make some nice shots on my P30 pro. They look pretty nice but they're still a bit noisy. Any tips to fix this?

when you use the night mode(auto), meaning you did not make any adjustments on the ISO and shutter speed, the phone will automatically calculate the shutter and ISO in order to produce a balanced photo. like lowering the highlights and bringing up the shadows. the moment you adjusted the shutter and ISO in Night mode, the AI algorithm does not kick in. hence you get a brighter photo but has blown out the highlights.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Good explanation, thanks.

@edonshatri6446

Жыл бұрын

And will also stack multiple images (short and long exposure) whilst it will use only the length which you selected on the screen(for example 32 sec)

Hi there. Awesome video. Just need a little help..... I don't have the option to change the resolution from 40 to 10 (only ratio options such as 4.4 1.1 full screen) .. Have the exact phone.... Any ideas why? Thanks

Even thu i dont have a knowledge on photography but in what you delivered from that photos is, very impressive... You just satisfied my mind on thinking what thus p30pro has to offer on us unknowledgeable on photography

I think I know what happened: The night mode captures multiple images and stiches them together to create a final image: that's what you're seeing when it's slowly getting brighter. If you put the shutter speed on 20 seconds it will capture multiple different (with different ISO and shutter speed) images for 20 seconds When using night mode on auto the phone will calculate the right ISO and shutter speed and use it's own algorithms to balance highlights and dark areas. When manually selecting night mode settings the phone will still capture the multiple images but wont use the smart algorithms for balancing the shot which will result in blown out areas. When using the pro mode the phone takes a "real" long exposure (which is why you can't see the progress while its taking the picture) resulting in a brighter image but with even more blown out parts.

@Antagon666

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I've seen the same thing myself on P20. The automode sucks in extreme low-light(unfixable noise, red tint, red vignetting etc.), but manual time gives much better results, which are comparable to long exposure in manual mode...

@markchadbourne8049

4 жыл бұрын

That's right, it's why using the same settings manually will get a different result. Also, the gentleman needs to focus in the right place, about 1/3rd into the scene for better sharpness across the scene.

Hello, what is music for end, time 12 20, please me.

Vevey, my hometown :) Are you taking the picture from the Mont Pélerin or Chardonne ?

Hi.. Nice info bro... R u aware of any ND filters or clip mounts that can be used on an Mate 20 Pro..?? Much appreciated..

I got my p30 pro can you teach me more about pro mode what iso and shutter speed is best for dark areas and for bright locations thanks need help

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

The relation between ISO and shutter speed given fixed aperture is the same as on all cameras. I might do a tutorial in the future but there are many good tutorials on youtube which you could look at if you want. Best wishes

I think in night mode you were supposed to make it focus on the city lights to balance it out

I want more photos at night time. Thanks for the great video.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for positive feedback, I plan to post another round over the weekend.

Very good job! Well done!

I have the normal P30 without Pro. Do you think I can shot the same quality with the mainsensor? I think thats the same sensor like P30 Pro.

@amirzaied2192

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

I am unable to getting Zoom with front camera...

What city is that?

Can't wait the P90 Pro and Jupiter photos 3:)

Hi! I have a question. Can you switch between the lenses when on pro mode? Because the s10 cant... you can only use the 3 lenses on auto mode, which is a deal breaker for me, so im considering this phone. Thanks!!

@mrhedrox

4 жыл бұрын

Whaat? Of course you can change lens on S10.. When in Pro Mode after start recording simply pinch the screen for lens bar to pop-up.. Hate that type people which misslead others cause they don't know how to and too laizy to read manual.

@RaffyCarvalheira

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrhedrox #not Did enough research before asking here and just because you're pinching the screen doesn't mean you're using optical zoom. Recording? Who said im necessarily taking about video? Hate the type of ppl that mislead others because they assume things and can't interpret what they read. Btw: www.reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/bfd7pu/why_on_earth_cant_i_use_the_cameras_pro_mode_with/?

@mrhedrox

4 жыл бұрын

U use optical zoom till 2,0 which lens is capable for, after that it goes optical till 10x. U'r still missing the Pro mode sense which is pro, you don't play with auto - all options ON, but like a Pro You need to choose the parameters and lens before taking a pic... what's new about it? Nothing besides night mode is better than S10 and already prooven in most tests.

@RaffyCarvalheira

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrhedrox the comment you replied is almost one year old, we already moved to the s20. The s10 doesn't allow all 3 lenses on pro mode... just two of them, 3 if you go auto. Anyway, s21 speculations on the way, let's see what they'll put on the table

@mrhedrox

4 жыл бұрын

@@RaffyCarvalheira Yep, agreed 😊 You are right only 1.7 and 2.4 to choose... Still don't know what the third cam is for thou... if it zooms and low light swiches to main lens... Must investigate further with simple cover over the lens.. I'm cool, didn't want to accuse you or something.. Im still learning my S10 and ots deep features. So what did you choose in the end? Dont say iPhone 11..

Anyone have here can give link to a video about how to vlog using a phone in a best way like cinematic? please? Too much to ask?

can you do this again to Xperia 5V pls?

Thank you for the amazing video! I would like to watch other videos like this, maybe if you can try with the ultra wide angle len (for landscape like that) and telephoto len (for the moon).

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Will post more samples when I have them, thanks for positive feedback

mathphotographer hello, I would like to learn from you how to use well my Huawei p 30 pro to take pictures.

Sometimes I use the Huawei camera app's Light painting modes (e.i. Silky water) to get dark long exposure shots. With that, I get to choose when to stop the shutter.

Woah, where are these mountains?

I'd be interested to see how this compares to the new night modern on the Galaxy S10.

Great job👍👍👍

Good video :) keep up the good work!

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bryan :)

@jake15b

5 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer Your welcome!

Can you still use wide angle lens or telephoto lens while using night or pro mode? Thanks

@ogichhh

5 жыл бұрын

Yes you can

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, primary lens (27mm), wide angle lens (16mm) and tele lens (135mm) are available in Pro Mode.

@johnw5251

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you guys for answering : )

Good morning, thank you. i have a Huawei p30 pro but I don't know how to take pictures at night because it's always dark.

Hello plz take photo with moove object, or use only 1shot with short shatter speed like 1/30seconds and high ISO

really nice for a mobile phone

A very gd experience sharing👍👍👍 any tripod recommended for smartphone? i usually taking photos when hiking, there are windy most of the time. Thanks for suggestions and looking forward to it.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

I use my Gitzo with a holder for smartphones, price for holder about 20 bucks.

Huawei phones are the best for night photography.. Amazing what P30 Pro can do on auto mode ! I own p20 pro very happy with it, i will skip P30 Pro and get next year Huawei flagship :)

@incarnadinehue2674

5 жыл бұрын

Nice choice. P20 pro and p30 pro have a bit same similarities. We dont know what huawei will bring this 2020

@mrvik97

5 жыл бұрын

@@incarnadinehue2674 Yeah, i just hope they bring stereo back otherwise im not getting it, for a 1000 euro phone that is a must for me

I want to see the results of the maximum iso from this camera, can it be ISO 409k ?

@mathphotographer

Жыл бұрын

It will be very noise, not useable.

I used this last night on my p30 pro NEW to test. WOW it was so dark and the picture looks as it was day.. lol no CLUE how useful that is but LOVE IT! That was just the 5 sec waiting.

@yinhtouch5419

4 жыл бұрын

How?

@yinhtouch5419

4 жыл бұрын

I tried to take it at night but nithing work..

Thank you so much 👍🏻

i am kinda late but I think that in the photo mode it takes 2 pictures and stacks them together to reduse noise. so it takes 2 12second exposures ,while in night mode it takes 1 24 second exposure

The reason why we see such different results accross all the different modes isn't because of the focus point as another user pointed out, as you were picking focus at roughly the same area. Instead, you should keep in mind that this technology can be used both with and without a tripod, so Huawei has made sure that you can still get impressive pseudo long exposure night shots by just holding the phone in your hands. That means that, while in night mode and using auto settings, the phone will cancel the motion that is caused by your hands shaking, while preserving that long exposure look but also reducing the overall brightness of the image. This is why you're also able to see the preview and the countdown, it's pretty much shooting a lot of pictures and combining them (doing so called photo stacking, as popularized by Google's HDR+ on Pixel phones). When you input manual settings in night mode, the countdown goes away and the phone works just like in manual mode when you have a tripod. If you had the phone in your hands, you would have seen that the image was shakier.

Photo mode + AI master + smooth, I think that will be the best low light photo. 👍💚

Amazing camera

I think the normal mode bump up the iso but the night mode make the exposure longer

F means the Aperture. The main lens of the p30pro is f1.6

Very nice work... keep it up.. thanks for sharing..it

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jeno

@jenojen

5 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer Welcome bro 👍👍

Could you do moon shots using the telephoto? And milky way or star trail shots? I'm planning on getting the p30 pro for this

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

When the weather allows for it I will try and post.

@rushlee6702

5 жыл бұрын

I do the moon shots and it's amazing👍

@xoxosun

5 жыл бұрын

The moon shot is a filter when the ai recognizes the moon they have been caught red handed again.

@giovannibarrera1534

5 жыл бұрын

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@user-cf5uf7vf2g

5 жыл бұрын

When shooting milky way, Ai automatically add dust to your photo🤣🤣

F is the aperture the amount of light let in

esses vídeos que informam sobre o p30 pro da Huawei estão sendo censurados e aparece a frase "vídeo indisponível"... tenho que ficar clicando várias vezes para conseguir assistir

F: 1.6 i think its about the native aperture of the camera y are using, main camera, or wide angle.

AMAZING PHONE

I Spend a lot of time in my garden. So I need as true a color as possible. So. What's the best phone for me please?

@himanologanor4093

4 жыл бұрын

not this one that is known to exaggerate colours, if you really want a Huawei, the Mate 20 pro has truer colours , and it will cost less if you find a nice offer

On the second picture the camera took a broader range of shots each having different exposure levels and then stitched them together so you got a brighter picture normally this happens when the HDR is activated. F is the focus length. Also if you look at the histogram when looking at the metadata you can see where the light range has been gathered from. If the histogram is bunched up to the right or the left the camera sensor has only picked up light from low or high areas of the spectrum when you see it as a long curve from one end to the other the camera sensor has picked up not just the low or high tones, but it has also picked up the mid tones which gives you more of a complete picture. The aperture or focal length can be the same on different pictures as can the ISO but there are other factors that can increase the range of light the sensor gathers

Have you tried to shot in RAW mode?

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Not yet, need to compare a RAW and JPG shot, good point.

The difference is that the night mode shot is computational where as the pro mode is shutter open for 20 seconds. Computational shot is multiple shots at varying exposure levels stitched together and the software tries to balance out the highlights, shadows and contrast.

What A Phone Man... 😍😍

The 2 have same settings. But the night mode is AI process stack. So we recognize the kind of pictures and select the appropriate elements in pictures to stack. The manual. Is the natural rendering of shutter open

Very interesting video and it's something I noticed with my P30 Pro Seem to be some inconsistencies in the camera software which I'm sure will get updated. Heard there's a Beta release in China of updated software, so will see. Great informative video 👍🏻

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback. I am sure the next firmware update will make the phone better, especially w.r.t. the camera software. Some features are still missing although advertised, e.g., the dual view video mode.

@GlennsTech

5 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer that's a good point. I'd forgotten about the duel video 🤔

where

hi for your question about the exposure, that’s because the exposure parameters of modern smartphones cameras are all simulated all “fake “. They use multi shot tragedy to improve IQ which is different from traditional digital camera

Interesting to see how the phone makers have used clever processing to get some very good results. Of course as photographer I would always be a camera user, but I can see for many people that this is plenty good enough or them. Perhaps not surprising how badly camera sales have fallen since phone makers have improved greatly their processing. Most phones I have used (and some cameras not all) bias exposure to the AF point so that explains the differences. Would I buy this? Probably not but for users who are into photos and want a small size then I can see they would mostly ignore a dedicated camera good enough is enough for most! I'd be fairly worried if I were a camera company!

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

I prefer real cameras too but sometimes the camera you have at hand is the best ;) I carry most of the time a camera with me but sometimes the smartphone camera is the only one available.

8:10 the difference between the auto night mode pic and the manual is In The auto night mode the Shutter starts from a very low ISO to higher to 100 (like from Low to High) But as in manual you've selected the 100 ISO so the camera system will start the Shutter from taking 100-100 ISO from start to end As per my Thinking I can be different!!

For the different image result: a camera take pictures in raw format, the jpg is the edited picture. The camera edit a picture like you do it in lightroom or Photoshop, Kontrast, lighting, sharpening, colors, all this parameters will edit from camera in the raw file and save as jpg, if you use a different mode so the camera edit it different but it's from exif the same raw file, go pro mode and activate save as raw so you can edit by yourself

Gutes video ;)

f1.6 is for the close up subject, to obtain a blurred background, for landscape usually use f8-12, that is why your images have not focused area blurred

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Primary lens is fixed at f/1.6, everything else is software. You can easily find the specs online. In smartphones there is not aperture change for a lens, it is all done by software.

Very nice 👌

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, appreciate the positive feedback.

Battery life SOT?

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Battery life is great - 2 days no problem

If you have the correct information, you might understand, the difference between those two same metadata images with long exposure is just because, Huawei like many other phones relies on post processing and it plays a big role here. You get an enchanced image always and not the exact as in the exposure data. Which obviously you get with a normal camera.

I love p30

its not strange at all in the night mode. in auto you picked brighter point as a focus point and in the manual mode you picked much darker point so ai made a much brighter picture overall to brighten the dark focus point

Try with lighting painting star track wait for 4 sec

Come on the best one is the one with the night mode(auto), which has the best dynamic range and lighting balance(non blown away like the rest) but was out of focus. The one with auto mode and AI you said that is the best, it is only a lucky shot on focus but still burned the city lights.

Beauty

Can someone pls explain why we can't zoom in or out in the 40mp main sensor? Why only in 10mp?

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Excellent question: since the primary lens can do 40MP and the wide angle lens can do (native) 20 MP and the tele lens can do 8MP, if we are in 40MP resolution mode on primary lens there should be a soft button to click to wide angle or tele lens without going to settings and changing the resolution on the primary lens down to 10MP just to get the soft buttons for the wide angle or tele lenses back on screen ... maybe something to consider for Huawei for next firmware update. By the way, when zooming more than 10x the 40MP primary sensor is used in combination with the tele sensor to do the trick.

@noelespinojr.222

5 жыл бұрын

@@mathphotographer wow! Thanks for the reply. Now i know why..been thinking about this since i got the phone..

@noelespinojr.222

5 жыл бұрын

You just earned another subscriber 😊😊😊

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much :) Appreciate all feedback on my videos ... improving is always welcome.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Noel, here is a new datapoint I found out when digging into your question: If you go into Pro Mode and change in settings resolution to 40MP you get the wide angle and tele lens buttons on screen, so you can go to 16mm focal length (resolution then switches automatically to 20MP) and you can by pressing soft button zoom 5x (resolution then changes to 8MP automatically). If you again press the soft button for the primary lens (middle button on screen) resolution switches automatically back to 40MP. So this is much better than in normal photo mode with 40MP where we do not have soft zoom buttons on screen. However, you can not pinch-to-zoom ... at least on my phone pinch-to-zoom results in a message on screen that change of focal length can only be done via the three soft buttons on screen. Hope that helps :)

If you could see at your 2nd picture, the 10mp with the AI mode on, the city in the foreground is blown by the lights, but with your 3rd picture, the night mode it settles that light to a natural(ish) view. And idk what you said when viewing the 3rd photo (the night mode) telling us that it is worse than the 2nd photo without even processing the picture.

the night mode is using stacking method to increase the exposure. Just like HDR mode, when enable the night mode the camera actually take multi photo(frames) than the backend software using multiple frames of photo stacking to increase the details without over exposure. The exposure time show in the "info" of night mode photo is not the "real" time, is a total photo stacking exposure time. Hope you understand what I explain

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Good point, thanks & fully understood. Read about this somewhere and should have mentioned.

So I just took photos of tonight's blue moon. Anything above 5x zoom has no raw file setting. So I had to settle for jpgs. It takes great photos of the moon nonetheless. Will tell you more once I inspect the jpegs.

The software is the reason for all the results I too observed the different results with the same iso and shutter time. But I did that in a honor device.

thanks

Try testing f11 pro please

more p30 experiments pleaseee

I think the difference is in software rendering. Same metadata but different settings for ai computation in each mode.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Most likely yes. The firmware is still premature, some promised features, by the way, loke dual video filming, are not yet available.

F is for F-stop, photgraphy terminology. See F-number in Wikipedia. It is the aperture.

Delicious 👌🏼

wow. less noise. nice o.o

That photo is dope reminds of the Lord of the Rings Scene

The best phone Android

Thumbs-up 👍

Great video, but could you make the focus on the city next time?

@ANIK5261

5 жыл бұрын

True lmao

0:01 🎵? 😯😮

I actually like the normal photo better than night mode. If it's night time it shouldn't look like day. Just want to be able to see details in darker areas instead of pitch black.

Wow

It a app about where you focusing...

The photo is bright becouse you focus it in darker area and the software try to bright that part all parts of the photo become bright

i hope you compare the shot with dslr or mirrorless camera with f1.1 or 1.2 lens.. and see what this huawei p30 pro got.

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

My other cameras will be superior to any smartphone by sensor size

@mathphotographer

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, an aperture of f/1.2 comes only with very expensive lenses. The most expensive one is from Leica, called the Noctilux, e.g., 50mm f/0.95. On the P30, aperture is fixed for each lense: 16mm wide angle with f/2.2, 27mm on primary lens with f/1.6 and 135mm on tele lens with f/3.4. Aperture change then is nothing but a software fake if the respective lens is chosen.