Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine kzread.infoUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.

Been a Matthew's guy my whole life, don't see myself changing anytime soon. The stealth advantage is the biggest one for me, I tune my bows and practice relentlessly so I'm not as worried about my form or grip being off. Once I have the feel of the bow committed to muscle memory, I trust myself to hold true. But that feeling when a silent stick slips through a deer at 40 yards before it realizes it was even on the way, that is what it's all about for me. I really enjoyed the review!

@jamesburke5709

3 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said word on that now too

@tightright9540

3 жыл бұрын

I’m with you but curious to try Hoyt . I did years ago while looking for a lighter hiking bow but upon firing it’s like holding a explosion. Not a big deal for one shot but 50 shots a day wouldn’t be fun. Something different for everyone. Bows don’t matter it’s the hobby that does matter .

@micahdunleavy9227

Жыл бұрын

They are both amazing bows, he had to dig deep to give the edge to the Hoyt and I’m sure his personal bias paid a part.. either way if you can shoot almost any new mid to top tier bow is going to be fantastic..

Glad to see more people actually caring to have opinions and less sponsorship bs in the industry. Great video, super thorough about it

@micahdunleavy9227

Жыл бұрын

Oh I guarantee there’s a relationship with Hoyt in some way still.. Not saying he’s dishonest and not saying I think there is anything wrong with that but he had to dig deep to find a reason to give it to Hoyt .. both bows are exceptional Hoyt’s are just so bad on hand shock..

One of the best bow reviews ever! You dug down deep for this one. Keep up the good work.

Who thinks Bowmar bow hunting should do their trophy room tour?

@teresahoff5575

3 жыл бұрын

I do

@bkoutdoors2741

3 жыл бұрын

Me

@mmamormon

3 жыл бұрын

me

@bodiepiepkorn7251

3 жыл бұрын

Me

@evanpressley9883

3 жыл бұрын

me

I've shot bowtech for years and finally made a switch to Mathews and I dont regret it. I love my vertix

@redlight7070

3 жыл бұрын

Same I have a Vertix and I used it for target this summer and got 1st in my state

@ramonwarren3144

3 жыл бұрын

That's because "bowtech" is mathews lol...lawsuit?

@zachschoels8597

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramonwarren3144 I think that lawsuit was just over patent "infringements" at one point or another every bow company will come across that issue.

@adamo6641

3 жыл бұрын

I shoot a infinite edge pro cause it a lot cheaper lol

@braydenhoward2225

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamo6641 gets the job done

You break these bows down so well it’s incredible! Keep up the great work. By the way, the wires and lightning mounts are top notch.

Love the video. Really gave me a better understanding on bows, keep up the great work guys

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude I appreciate it!

YESSSSSSSSS!!! Been waiting for this video! Super stoked to watch it!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Hands down the best comparison video 👏👏👏. Now back to the important stuff, we want to know more about those 2 bucks 😍

Glad you guys are back! I've been itching for some more content!

loved the video, thanks for all the info and input. been waiting for it for a while and it helps a lot

Love your channel! Keep up the great work!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud

Yessir bout time can’t wait to watch

Long time coming!! The knowledge alone in this video is outstanding!! I can definitely appreciate the unbiased comparison and appreciate the dedication it takes to make this video. I have to admit you ALMOST had me considering switching from my BowTech Revolt! Can’t wait for the next upload!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Means a lot!

I’ve been looking forward to this review for a LONG time. Thanks josh.

Considering they’re both different length ATA is probably why the hoyt torque tuned at your DL. You should get the traverse or atlas and do that test

This video was extremely helpful. I’m 11 and I have a diamond edge. I just picked up my first nice hunting jacket which was a Sitka fanatic hoody. Your videos inspire to hunt white tails with a bow. Thanks Josh for all the good videos

@dionysis84

2 жыл бұрын

Get it kid 💪 . Sitka gear is some amazing stuff and has helped me stay in the woods longer thus killing many wall hangers due to sitting longer. The diamond edge is a great youth bow and has massive amounts of adjustment as you age

I like these comparison videos. Hearing the actual facts from someone who has so much knowledge about archery is great! Would love to see more of these! Thanks Josh.

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it bud thanks for watching

Very thorough review! Thank you for putting in the time. Much appreciated.

Smooth draw and shot is why I love Hoyt. Never could get my Switchback XT to shoot as well as my old Hoyt Magnatech.

I would be so happy to own either one of these bows, I’m currently using a PSE Stinger and it’s not the fanciest bow but it’s a decent one that doesn’t break the bank. One day I’ll probably do something crazy and buy a Hoyt but.... that won’t be for a while. Great video!

Love the depth of the comparison! So much valuable information!

Thanks for all your help in the archery industry. Very happy with all your advice and help.

I was thinking about switching back to Mathews but I am going to stick with my Hoyt hyperforce. Great video! I appreciate all the time and effort you put into this video.

Awesome review!!! Here’s to luck at 200k!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude!

Absolutely amazing video I think one of the best on KZread thank you for explaining through the whole thing!

This is by far the best brand comparison video of any kind out there! I love how you dove in and broke down all of the critical components of the shootability of a bow. Well done Bowmars!

Definitely was looking forward to this video. Gotta really debate in the new purchase for 2021

@sheldonhall5711

3 жыл бұрын

I'm buying a 2021 too, not sure who yet but I think the amount of ppl that switched from hoyt to mathews cause of the vxr is why hoyts taking an extra 3 months compared to everyone else in the release of their 2021 models. Beyond excited to see what hoyts done

I have a Mathews craze 2 it's nice but the draw back feels kinda funny. Love the videos keep up the good work👍

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@weslanmullet9130

3 жыл бұрын

I had the craze 2 triax and Vertix and there a big jump from the craze to the Triax and Vertix. The V3 is by far the best back wall that I’ve shot though

Great review/comparison!! Truly appreciate the amount of time and detail you put into this comparison.

Glad to see you guys are back. Hope everything is good. God bless and Merry Christmas

Finally I love all of your videos keep it up guys

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

@jerryvanderdussen905

3 жыл бұрын

@@BowmarBowhunting any tips to getting better at shooting out of a blind

I have always wanted to see some head to head action without bias. This is a great video. It's like comparing a Ferrari vs Lambo😉😉😉

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

It really is! Thanks!

Best bow comparison I've ever seen. You were thorough and very detailed. And you nailed all the key points that mattered for a bow HUNTER! I could care less about those paper shooters. I practice religiously with my bow and still be off my mark when shooting a giant buck. It's just the adrenaline, the cold, the nerves, maybe I'm rushing it, or the bucks taking forever to step out, everything that can go wrong WILL go wrong and the bow still needs to shoot lights out for me. You did a great job to keep the viewer engaged and your delivery was perfect. Please do more of these videos. Thank you!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Very well said, thanks for sharing your insight! A lot of people have the same troubles with shooting at a buck.. it’s not easy! Keep up the good work

Awesome review. A lot I hadn’t considered before. Can’t wait to see more reviews like this in the future

I wanted this video for ever can’t wait to decide on my new bow !!!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your patience man!

@waltsecord7710

3 жыл бұрын

Get the VXR. Thank me later

Definitely will be Waiting for your Torque Tuning Video👍👍👍

I don't know much about tuning a bow but now understand how important it is. Thanks for the informative video. Keep up the good work. Africa !!

Thank you for taking the time to do this comparison. I didn't realize there was so much to consider when shooting different bows.

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

You’re so welcome!

Awesome josh love the channel!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude I appreciate it

I’ve had Hoyts and Mathews. Mathews always worked better for me. The new V3 is amazing. When you think Mathews can’t improve they always surprise me.

Great video guys! I've been bow hunting for a ling time and STILL learned a lot from this video.

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear thank you

What a fantastic video! Great job. Amazing analysis talking about variables i had no clue even existed. So interesting and informative

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much dude!

I have never seen a deer anywhere close to the size of the ones in the back. Thanks for the info keep the vids coming.

@smidsmid3057

3 жыл бұрын

Mathews never had bad grips! You just have woman hands

Great video Josh. Respectful point on both sides. I’ve just never enjoyed the Hoyt draw cycle and it seems like in the past the price compared to other flagship bows from other companies seemed off balance. It’s just all shooter preference in my opinion. Just another Chevy Ford Dodge conversation lol

Haven’t even watched the whole video but know it’s going to be great!! And I really am excited to see what you end up liking.

It feels like I have been waiting on this video for so long!! It did not disappoint! Thank you!! Very deep, very detailed. Please make more videos on those details with a bow that are usually overlooked!! You are awesome! 🇺🇲👊🏽

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud!

Its soooooo hard to pay attention while those awesome mounts are in the back!!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@bloodlines9610

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Lol

@winslowaaronmercer

3 жыл бұрын

Where can you shoot 2 legged deer like in those mounts? Lol

@gagelizarraga8968

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

Have a good Christmas and have a blessed week

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

You too!

Been waiting on this video. Great job can’t wait to see the torque tuning video

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Very easy to understand why the Hoyt was more forgiving. The Axius Ultra is a 34" ATA bow with a 6 3/4" BH. This bow lends itself to be forgiving, especially for a long draw archer. These are also some of the reasons the VXR is so much faster.

@ctfishing2021

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder how the Axius would stack up to one of Mathews longer bows like the Traverse with a 33”ATA and 6.625” BH. Thats the bow I went with because many with longer draw lengths preferred it over the VXR and Vertix.

@TD2821

3 жыл бұрын

@@ctfishing2021 The Traverse is a great bow. Possibly the best hunting bow Mathews has ever put out, IMO. I figure Bomar chose the VXR due to switch weight capability and the ability to get 75+lb.

OCD bigger than sh** about this stuff and I love it! Looking forward to the tork tuning video.

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

Definitely the most in depth bow comparison I’ve seen

Hay I like how honest you in everything and it’s a awesome video to keep them coming

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I would love to hear what you think about the Black or Nexus from Prime

@SeuVagem5.56

3 жыл бұрын

Best is prime centergy hybrid bro, simple this

Mathews quieter, easier to tune, just as fast, Cheaper, holds steady. If you want an 80 lb mathews put the Wake limbs on it!

@stacy.spenny

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up bruh

@KTMsoldier1988

3 жыл бұрын

@@stacy.spenny if you want to spend $1600 on a hoyt be my guest i can buy 2 mathews for that price!

@KTMsoldier1988

3 жыл бұрын

@@stacy.spenny whoops just looked it up RX4 ultra is $1749

@KTMsoldier1988

3 жыл бұрын

@@stacy.spenny plus he forgot to mention the mathews is 3 inches shorter axle to axle and has a shorter brace height so it will be less forgiving.

The video was super great been looking forward to this for a long time. You guys have to do a video of your trophy room whenver it is all put together. Also love the cat walking through in the video. Thank you!

You're a mad man when it comes to archery Josh! Great video!

a random cat walks past at 3 00 he says nothing and keeps on talking

I have an axius alpha and the back wall is as solid as a rock

Josh - know you and the Mrs are two of the hardest working bow hunters out there, but as a die hard compound archer I really appreciate this video. While your schedules and sponsors can make this difficult, please do more videos like this and your arrow building video. Even if you only review one bow there’s an immense amount of useful archery info in these videos and I just keep coming back to them.

Enjoyed the comparison greatly, as you included a lot of things most hunters don't generally consider... great backdrop to the shootout as well!

Love your vids

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

You should review the new Mathews Atlas. I bet it would tune better because the vxr DL maxes out at 31

@chasehoobler

3 жыл бұрын

@God's Com'n Yes the Atlas goes to 34 DL but the VXR which is what he is testing in this video only goes to 31 DL and he mentioned that his DL is slightly longer than 31.

@twiztd001

3 жыл бұрын

And Mathews usually runs 1/2 - 3/4 long.

Loved it Lots of detail Thanks

I’ve bing waiting for this vid to come out for hours 😁

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@mikesabo5151

3 жыл бұрын

Did you switch to Mathews ?

Hoyt for last 20years. Can't beat them. Very dependable.

@archer3181

3 жыл бұрын

No they are not. Troll

I still believe the Traverse is the best bow Mathews has made! Had 2 Hoyt Carbon bows and they creeped like a Mofo! Nice on the hand in cold weather though and light as a feather.

@patriotref7536

3 жыл бұрын

Second that. I will never sell my Traverse

@darylkrause9376

3 жыл бұрын

Halon 6

I have been looking forward for this review! Great video with lots of awesome information! You should do a review on pse next! I shoot one and absolutely love it and they have improved so much! Thanks for the great content and entertainment! I just with I knew as much about tuning my bow as you!

You are incredible brother. Love your videos. Thinking about going to look at the hoyt ventum pro 33

@BowmarBowhunting

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

It makes it so hard to pay attention with those crazy mounts in the background

I could never get past the riser on hoyts

@recycled3654

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to get a Hoyt Carbon but can't afford it. Mathews are much more within my price range.

Thank you for that in depth comparison. Most people focus on just the speeds and weights of the bow but you went into what really matters when buying a bow

I’m glad that you took your time and talked about the pros and cons you do great work please keep it up and push more technical information

Your average bow hunter isn't torque tuning.

@theinnatechase6608

3 жыл бұрын

Then be a better bow hunter

@brockpeck7073

3 жыл бұрын

@@theinnatechase6608 sorry best bow hunter ever 😂

@jonathanperillo1795

3 жыл бұрын

They definitely aren’t. You can make the argument that if you’re an average bow Hunter you SHOULD torque tune to help with your inconsistencies.

@brockpeck7073

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanperillo1795 I bet you 75% of the people that watched this don't torque tune.

@brockpeck7073

3 жыл бұрын

Most just tune there bows and go hunt. Make sure center shot is good. Either bare shaft tune or paper tune and that's it.

They are all good bows! What's important is how your treated after you buy it. Cracked a limb on my Mathews. Sent to Mathews expecting to pay for a new one, new limb NO CHARGE ! My Hoyt riser snapped in half right above my hand hitting me in the face. Sorry nothing we can do about it ! Never will buy another Hoyt !!!

@capt.america6296

3 жыл бұрын

My limbs started to delaminate on on a Mathews MQ1 12 years after I bought it. Took it to Scheels sporting goods and they contacted Mathews. Mathews had new limbs for me, NO CHARGE !!! in two days which was awesome because bow season opened like 4 days later. Customer service matters. i wont look at another bow manufacturer.

@theone9328

2 жыл бұрын

Your riser snapped in half? I'm calling major BS on that one+

@aaronm3531

Жыл бұрын

2nd

@user-sp3gq1up9n

Жыл бұрын

Yea right it snapped in half. BS.

Solid info Josh. Thanks for sharing it helps alot.

Great video! Great work! = great success! Luv ur guys videos , I'm a new hunter this is my first year using a bow and been inspired by ur videos!

I’ll never give up my Carbon Ultra Rx4

@aydenjohnson9585

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up

@kee7678

3 жыл бұрын

@@aydenjohnson9585 LOL you must be a crossbow guy.

@1989inception

3 жыл бұрын

@@aydenjohnson9585 lol sounds like you got neither 🤡

It looks like he’s comparing a vxr 28 to a rx3 which has an axle to axle of 30.5 which makes a huge difference... should have been done with the vxr 31.5 for a better comparison and would change the outcome on some of the problems

@OfficerChungus

3 жыл бұрын

Its not a 28, I bought the 28 and almost regret it.

@ernestodelao1601

3 жыл бұрын

I wasn't even considering the 28 until I shot it on my 4th time of testing. It just felt way better to me. I dont shoot out west so it seemed like a perfect fit. I do however plan on practicing alot this winter out to 60 yds. So maybe regret will set in a bit? There all great bows in my opinion. I just went with what felt best in the end.

@chiefryan2260

3 жыл бұрын

That's not a RX3 for starters

@OfficerChungus

3 жыл бұрын

@@ernestodelao1601 yeah, i probably just need more practice. When I miss it is left or right, so just torquing hand I am sure. Have robin hood an arrow too.. does fly nice, fast and flat.

@ernestodelao1601

3 жыл бұрын

Things didn't go as planned thru the summer didn't shoot nearly as much as I wanted to. Getting a custom string put on ASAP then shooting more! I'll see wht happens at 60yds. Out too 30 I've never shot tighter groups!

Awesome video keep it up glad to see you back on here hope the family is doing good.

Hey I have been a fan of your shows for years and I actually started bow hunting because of your show and I have gun hunted for years and love it but I just recently bought a nose button and it has completely changed my accuracy and I want to thank you for inspiring not only me but everyone that watches you show

You should do a Bowtech review too! Best unbiased review I’ve seen!

Great video it was very informative and nice to learn about the specific specs on these bows

Soo in depth detail very helpful information!! 👊

I love my Mathew triax and my daughter shoots a mission hamr by mathews

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@chadgoldstein3306

3 жыл бұрын

I shoot a hoyt magnatec intruder. Can't remember when that bow came out. 25+years ago? Haven't had to do anything to it since I got it. Shoots awesome. Maybe someday i'll upgrade to a new/used one.

@lucasw-keys5632

3 жыл бұрын

that’s what i shoot it’s awesome

@Jackofalmasterofnon

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasw-keys5632 i just wish I would have got a 70lb. I'm shoot 60

@lucasw-keys5632

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jackofalmasterofnon you can adjust it

Ok pse next haha, thanks!

This is a outstanding video; you brought issues into play that frankly the other archery channels don't touch. I will probably never be able to afford either one of those bows but the tuning insights will definitely help me with tuning my bow.

Really enjoy your videos your details are awesome keep them coming you got my support

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Started with Mathews and haven't found anything that I like better or any problems that would cause me to change. Seems like Hoyt has lost a few folks over the last year or so......

@ANuts223

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah bc most folks can’t afford a Hoyt

@patriotref7536

3 жыл бұрын

@@ANuts223 - and because they aren’t worth the extra price tag

I still shake with a 100 pound doe

@wyattstill3446

3 жыл бұрын

Your not the only one

@wyattstill3446

3 жыл бұрын

The reason I love Bowhunting so much is Becuase of that adrenaline rush

@sanfordowen7111

3 жыл бұрын

Go check it out tomorrow on my KZread! I killed a huge doe and my dad smoked a big buck!

Best comparison video I have seen. Thank you!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man

Luv the videos hopefully you'll get to 200k soon

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully thanks man!

Do a trophy room vid I would enjoy

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Some day I will man, thanks!

Heck yeah!

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

💪🏻

Another fantastic video keep them coming love it

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

Will do thank you

Awesome video, great detail in each category really helps me decide what brand to go with for my new bow, and the video also got me through my cardio at the gym!! 😂

@BowmarBowhunting

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome keep working hard!

I wonder if the spongy back wall in the hoyt might be a result of the mods being in two separate positions. That may cause the cable tensions to vary more than they normally would which could result in a less rigid back wall. Despite that I still think the mathews has the better back wall.

@ianmcgaughey1

3 жыл бұрын

I have never heard of the issue that he had with having to run the arrow nock high. I think he just didn't have his cams timed because I've tuned 100+ Hoyt's this year and all of them were running on the middle of string, dead level, all bullet holes. But, cam timing is 99% of getting a hybrid cam to tune correctly

I shoot a vxr. I like it a lot better than the rx4. I was honestly disappointed in the rx4.

@jackmichl763

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah hoyt suck pretty bad🤮🤮

@brockpeck7073

3 жыл бұрын

Same love my 28

@Vintage-406

3 жыл бұрын

I’d be interested in seeing the results of a test on an RX4. I’m the same, just switched to a V3 from my RX4. Was never really happy with the RX4 way too temperamental. The axius is like the Helix. Good forgiving bow