The only way I can describe how I felt when I left the theater is to say I felt the same as Buzz did when he found out he was a toy, utterly baffled and trying my hardest to rationalize what the fuck was happening. Even with Cars 2 I still came out of the theater thinking it was atleast entertaining even tho I knew it sucked, but Toy Story 4 fucking broke me and I just had stay in silence and utter bewilderment during dinnertime while my family went on and on about how the movie was so good and how they can't wait for the next one. I just...... Sigh. It's finally over. Toy Story had 3 movies, a couple of shorts, a couple of TV specials, videogames and a spinoff TV show centered around an in-universe TV show starring Buzz that inspired the toy. Nothing. Else.

@devonrichardson6150

2 жыл бұрын

I relate to this comment so much it hurts you describe my experience with toy story 4 I even scream into my popcorn at the end of the movie I hated it that much

@jerelminter

2 жыл бұрын

There is going to be something else, there's a new Buzz Lightyear movie that's coming out next month. The good news is that this is not a continuation of the Toy Story series that was already established, they're not ruining anything from the past this time.

@DrakeMystical

2 жыл бұрын

I hope the buzz light year movie is good

@NebLleb

2 жыл бұрын

*I Will Go Sailing No More intensifies*

@NebLleb

2 жыл бұрын

@Mr Big Brother YT *FUCK. NO.*

*Woody wakes up In Bonnie's room* Buzz: "What's wrong, Woody?" Woody: "I had this horrible dream. A random fork became sentient somehow, we went to a carnival and I reunited with Bo Peep who was acting very rude and annoying for some reason. There where some other weird toys some creepy dolls, and In the end I stayed there and left all you guys behind!" Buzz: "Don't worry, It was just a bad dream. Let's get ready now! Bonnie's going to wake up soon!" Woody: "Yeah, you're right. Thanks Buzz." *THE END*

@GamingMagic13

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to make a Toy Story 5 and open with that scene.

@AvertAT

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingMagic13 It was all a TV show

@passthroughgamer1014

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingMagic13 Or the end scene for Toy Story 4 if you get what I mean

@ThomasLover-fr8nh

2 жыл бұрын

That could have worked for the actual ending to TS4.

@kingkazma3246

2 жыл бұрын

If only

Toy Story 4 is the textbook definition of "Don't fix what's not broken."

@durandlewis1382

Жыл бұрын

And shatter it beyond repair.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

@@durandlewis1382 Exactly right. When you try to "fix" something that isn't broken, you often break it in the process, and often to the point that it can't be fixed anymore.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@hotwax9376 I fixed my almost 13 years old Woody and my dad’s family helped me. Woody is good as new again

@GhostHunterDipperPines

Жыл бұрын

It’s like trying trying to fix a very very extremely impossibly slight imperfection on a glass statue with a jackhammer

@urisoltz819

Жыл бұрын

I knew this movie would be terrible. Toy Story 3 had such a good ending and PIXAR has lost it’s way. Honestly I expected exactly what we got. I only watched this movie because my grandma wanted to see it. It was awful, since I hadn’t seen the other three movies in at least 5 years I couldn’t point out what was wrong in detail but I knew something was off with the characters. That was until Woody abandoned Bonnie which was so obviously out of character that even I noticed. It’s disgusting 🤮. The new definition of character assassination could just be: watch Toy Story 4

“What are you going to do Woody? Be left behind in front of children and never be loved again? Some life.” I get the feeling the writers forgot what Buzz said to Woody in Toy Story 2.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

Жыл бұрын

Yeah a film that came out at the end of the 90s in 1999, A FULL 2 DECADES before this unneccessary sequel came out

@BenLogterman

Жыл бұрын

@@Thomasmemoryscentral Indeed, and they threw that moment out the window like they think it’s stupid and pointless when it’s not.

@Eyes-Scream0213

Жыл бұрын

It's because Disney is a very greedy company now that wants to milk a legendary animated movie. Toy Story 4 is the unnecessary movie that no one ask because for fans Toy Story 3 is the perfect ending.

@irizarryjose11

Жыл бұрын

Wich should let you realize that woody was willing to leave his friends behind in the past and y'all surprised he did it again. It's not like he abandoned his friends either, he chose to help other toys find kids.

@bigbangbot-SuperSqank

Жыл бұрын

A thing I really love about that line in Toy Story 2 is that it gives us a different perspective on what staying in the museum would actually be like for Woody. Before this, we had Stinky Pete telling Woody that in the museum, he will be loved for generations and last forever. This is Stinky Pete trying to subtly manipulate Woody to go to the museum with them (since he is the villain as we later learn) and it works. But Buzz later comes in and gives Woody the hard truth. That all kids will do is look at him through glass and never love him like an owner would. It’s a very subtle thing but this leads up to the moment where Woody remembers his purpose, that it is his job to be there for a kid. That whole scene in general is one of my favourite in the entire series and it makes the ending of TS4 hurt that much more.

When you pointed out how Woody left his family to be with Bo Peep, someone he hasn’t seen for years, I felt extremely uncomfortable. Not because you said anything wrong, but because Woody’s actions hit way too close to home for me. Woody’s actions at the end of this movie remind me of my dad’s actions a few years ago, when he left his family to be with his high school girlfriend. I’ve never really minded this movie that much, but I definitely agree that the message of that last scene is awful. Leaving your family just because you want to spend your life with someone you haven’t seen for years is a _disgusting_ message to send to kids, because leaving your family behind shouldn’t be praised. It’s something that *ruins lives*. Abandoning your family is not some cute, romantic thing, but this film treats it as if it is.

@ForrestFox626

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that

@ferb1131

2 жыл бұрын

Even never having been in that situation myself, that was the most despicable thing about the movie to me too. Most of the things pointed out in this series of videos I wasn't too bothered about, it was this that I really hated, partly for how it totally went against Woody's character, but partly for how it was a totally pure evil message to put in any kids movie. And yeah, I think Cooley did it on purpose for some ulterior motive - maybe he's abandoned his kids himself and wants to justify the idea that he did a noble thing by doing that, or something like that. And it's no surprise that this kind of moral messaging gets an oscar - those awards are given out by similarly morally corrupt people.

@TyneeBubbles

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, that's my mother, and some loser she knew 30+ years ago! Gotta love that parental childhood trauma, eh? Hang tight, friend, you're probably better off!

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

And the problem with this especially, with *everything* about this movie short of the visuals, is that I once sucked it all up Like, they did this so they wouldn't have to put as much love and attention into their craft as the old TS writers, with almost no one caring and just sucking it up because nostalgia and manufactured emotions...and it works

@KyleEvra

2 жыл бұрын

CRINGE!

My mom gave my Sheriff Woody away to a friend of hers who had a kid when I was around 16. Could you imagine my shock that her son graduated this year, and she reached out to me asking if my three year old wanted it. How awesome was it to see my "partner" came back to me. This is now something that Andy will never get because Woody's character was assassinated.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

I’m 20 now and I still have my sisters Woody because she asked me if I would promise to take care of him and I did. 5 years later and he’s still with me

@dizzydial8081

Жыл бұрын

You actually had a better toy story than toy story 4.

@somethingwithultra7231

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that legitimately actually sounds like a really touching and cool story. I do hope we'll get a potential Shrek forever thing in a few years with Woody doing so somehow.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@somethingwithultra7231 Everyone finds my story heart wrenching because I hated seeing Woody suffer with the abandonment trauma from my sister but I helped him overcome that and now I honoured him as Woody.EXE

@dabatman5187

Жыл бұрын

You had the Toy Story we should have

Woody abandoning Bonnie is like that type of father that goes out to buy milk and never comes back.

@ForrestFox626

2 жыл бұрын

Or cigarettes

@nicolelawless3199

2 жыл бұрын

My Woody was abandoned by my sister in 2015 and I’m glad I separated them and I think Woody loves me so much that I saw him alive the other week. It was the best moment of my life when he finally looks at me with the love I have for him and Jessie

@osmanyousif7849

Жыл бұрын

Or when Will's dad left him again in Fresh Prince.

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

Because the Kid was acting ungrateful for a week…

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 are you okay?

Woody in TS3 (in a toy chest for like 9 years): *still has hope no matter what Woody in TS4 (in a closet for 3 days): *GIVES UP ON LIFE IN A MATTER OF SECONDS

@abstraction6212

2 жыл бұрын

TS5: Bonnie abandons sporky for a phone

@shelgue

2 жыл бұрын

lmao

@Blox117

Жыл бұрын

woody went full SJW simp mode

@juvenpedrajas1440

Жыл бұрын

@@abstraction6212 Don't give josh cooley any ideas

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

Me: *Almost forgets about Woody for 1917* Luckily Woody joins 1917 after all the fighting they did but they get on very well now

Oh, and I love how this movie has changed the last words of the series from "So long, partner" to "I don't know".

@becdoesyoutube

Жыл бұрын

Technically TS3's real final words aside from music were "Just go with it, Buzz" cuz you know. The epilogue.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

I literally grew up with Toy Story 3 because I was one month away from turning 8 and now I’m 20

@qwerkyqwerty5241

Жыл бұрын

​@@nicolelawless3199 I grew up with Toy story from 1995... you just made me feel so old 🤣🤣

@firepawx3779

10 ай бұрын

Sums up the directors’ thoughts when making this train wreck of a movie perfectly

@guess6635

9 ай бұрын

​@@nicolelawless3199Was turning 14 during the Summer of 2010 and remember the hype for Toy Story 3 during June of that Year. A lot of promos and commercials with the song "Freak Out" and truly nostalgic for that time period... near decade later this film which I've avoided completely until just now through this review is a complete disservice to the franchise completely when we didn't need a "Toy Story 4" after the amazing ending back in 2010.

Remember kids, it's perfectly fine for a dude to leave his family for some chick he hasn't seen in a decade! What a great message, thanks Pixar very cool.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, do we really want to support a film that glorifies adultery and cheating?

@cerulee

Жыл бұрын

@@hotwax9376 not really adultery, but child abandonment for sure, since the entire series has equated the responsibility of a toy to their child to parenting. Woody was a very clear metaphor of a parent to Bonnie, so him leaving her was pretty gross.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

@@cerulee Exactly right, just as he was to Andy as well.

@cerulee

Жыл бұрын

@@hotwax9376 The movie kept saying Woody was still hung up on Andy because he cared about Bonnie and it's like... no? Andy is a grown adult and in the third movie it established that both he and Woody were ready to move on with their lives. Woody being attentive to Bonnie just means that she's still a child in need of the kind of care that a toy can give. She's a KINDERGARTENER. She hasn't "moved on" from playing with her toys.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@cerulee I haven’t moved on from Woody or Jessie and I’ve had them since I was 9 and now I’m 20

For me, I honestly think that one of the biggest issues I had with the movie, was that I just found it boring. I remember being about halfway through the movie and wanting it to end, like I wasn't invested with this one like the other ones. Also, just watched all five parts. I absolutely love the editing style and passion that went into this. This was super enjoyable to watch from beginning to end.

@irizarryjose11

Жыл бұрын

You only heart people that agree with you but the people that don't you just say f*** you

@eatatjoes6751

Жыл бұрын

I almost fell asleep with this movie.

I can't help but think about how devastated Bonnie will be over not having Woody. Seeing how depressed she got for a replaceable spork she should be in agony over losing Woody. I myself have many stuffed animals that i haven't touched since elementary/middle school but i would be heart broken if i lost them

@nicolelawless3199

2 жыл бұрын

I’d be heartbroken if I lost Woody too because he is my sisters toy before me. I was so glad I separated them because my beloved sister ABANDONED him! Woody comes alive and tells me how much he loves me

@popsingerstar

2 жыл бұрын

nobody would ever play with a stupid fucking fork over a real toy

@IncorrectHB

2 жыл бұрын

@@popsingerstar i do think that a kid would play woth a fork for maybe a day, but not to the degree that Bonnie did

@nicolelawless3199

2 жыл бұрын

@@popsingerstar I’d rather play with a toy thats important to me like Jessie was and she still is. I take her everywhere and Woody, I don’t care if I’m going to be 20 one month from today

@becdoesyoutube

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if Andy didn't give a hoot over Bonnie losing Woody. That would ruin everything even further.

I find it ironic how Josh Cooley wrote a villain that was evil and got rewarded for it

@cortezfilms8511

2 жыл бұрын

Hold up what did he do?

@Jmaniac9204

2 жыл бұрын

@@cortezfilms8511 directed this movie

@theALTF4

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jmaniac9204 boy ho boi...that sure is EVIL AF

@ThePastryNinja

2 жыл бұрын

Almost like he's someone who is uncomfortable with things like actions having consequences or justice or consistent morality....

@zekun4741

Жыл бұрын

what gets me is when the ginger girl rejects her and throws her in the crate, we're supposed to feel sorry for her, when my initial reaction was to point and laugh at her. I was so mad when the other characters let her walk away completely free and even helped her. who wrote this?

You know, this now brings up the question: What if Andy came to visit Bonnie one day and wants to hold Woody after years without seeing him.

@RoninCatholic

2 жыл бұрын

That'd be weird, for one thing.

@vanilla8956

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoninCatholic Shut up

@popsingerstar

2 жыл бұрын

hes gonna be pissed as hell & lose his shit when he finds out she lost him

@TrueZoomerof2003

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, they really *did* never watch the last three Toy Story movies. Especially, the 3rd one! They've never even considered Andy in the slightest and practically assumed that college is forever. How much you wanna bet the *writers* never even *been* to college in their lives?

@farlado5459

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrueZoomerof2003 Given Pixar is the kind of place where a university degree and a darn good portfolio is the *floor* for being considered....

you know, I gotta ask this, why the hell did they feel this series NEEDED a different ending. Toy Story 3 was the BEST way to end the series, like it felt like the sendoff these films deserved, and then this movie happened.

@lautaroroldanpizzorno7494

2 жыл бұрын

They obviously didn't. But money

@smallrockstudios9395

Жыл бұрын

YES thank you 🙏 Pixar only cared about cashing off of millennial nostalgia

@cranberryrosebud

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if someone with authority in the film industry decided that we actually "need" a 4th LOTR film, not based on a book, and cast a bunch of talkshow hosts and "comedians", or maybe some new actors that have never done a film before, and then had a scene where they all sit in a tavern or something, and talk about how stupid the old heroes were for thinking that destroying Sauron would save Middle Earth, 'cause it was actually some fairy or something behind everything. And then still use almost all of the old score - in all the wrong places. And then people would defend the movie like, "well what about the new generation?", as if you can't buy DVDs that didn't come out in current year, like they did for all the Disney remakes. I'm not sure if you could tell, but I am displeased with the current state of Hollywood.

@Bopperann

Жыл бұрын

Disney: People won't stop giving me money so why should I stop? Long term plans are for losers.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

Because all Disney and Pixar care about today, and all most of Hollywood in general cares about today, is money. It's all about making the next paycheck, even if that means putting out substandard garbage for the masses who don't know better to slop up. Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending of the series, but Pixar chose to cave to the fans who demanded an official story on what happened to Bo Peep (not that we needed a whole film for it) because they were so desperate for that cold, hard cash. But what's good for their paychecks isn't always what's good for the fans or the franchises.

Fun fact: Even Joel Schumacher apologised for making Batman and Robin and admitted what he did was wrong.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

Good luck getting Josh Cooley to do that with Toy Story 4.

@MrCwazie

Жыл бұрын

The difference being Joel Schumacher didn't intentionally make the film bad.

@VelvetCake423

Жыл бұрын

@@MrCwazie and even then, to some its so bad its good/is the perfect get drunk and have snacks movie

@NevanSlone

Жыл бұрын

@@MrCwazie Bat Credit Card… that’s worse than Shark Repellant

@MrCwazie

Жыл бұрын

@@NevanSlone still, it doesn't change the fact that Schumacher didn't purposely make Batman and Robin bad.

Woody has always been my favorite. Almost two years ago, we brought a puppy to our home, just before the virus hit hard, andd we named him Woody. He's the light of my life, and it really ANGERS me that this wonderful character I named my best friend after was thrown away like this, along with his friends. It's gross what they did in Toy Story 4.

@GamingMagic13

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you. I had to undergo a life-threatening surgery I was lucky to survive when I was super young, and what I’ll never forgot about those days in the hospital is that I always had my Woody doll to hold onto and cuddle with as a source of comfort. This character means the world me, and seeing him torn to shreds like this was like ripping my heart out of my chest. It was the strongest motivation for making this series because I know millions of people all around the world emotionally connect with these characters, and I wanted to make this video on behalf of every single one of them who felt betrayed by this film.

@nicolesouza8

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingMagic13 Yeah, I was thinking about that story of yours the other day when talking with a friend about character assassinations, actually. It's heartbreaking to me just watching this series you made, I think I'd be so much more shocked if I had actually seen the movie. Just awful. I'm glad your pal was with you through that time of your life and more. It's clear how much these characters mean to you not just by you telling us, but by all the work you put into these videos.

@arminarlert7273

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingMagic13 And yet a lot of people call this movie a masterpiece. It's like how braindead you have to be to even consider this garbage mediocre.

@GamingMagic13

2 жыл бұрын

@Cio Lake I didn't misuse anything, you just fail to understand the definition of words. The filmmakers are clearly making you try to question your memory by making Bo Peep act the way she does in the prologue to trick you into thinking she was always like that. Very simple; please try to keep up.

@GamingMagic13

2 жыл бұрын

@Cio Lake Okay, bye; you won't be missed. One out of the tens of thousands of views these videos get won't affect me in the slightest.

I have refused to watch Toy Story 4 ever since I saw it in theaters. It's refreshing to finally see a decent amount of people online finally discuss the serious flaws the movie has. It honestly got annoying to always hear the defense of "Character Development!" around the time the movie came out. For me, Toy Story 3 will always be the real ending of the series.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't the shorts enough of a sequel to the 3rd film? Hear so much good on them

@Eettuce

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@cjb6152

2 жыл бұрын

same here. Toy Story 3 had the perfect ending. For me there is no Toy Story 4.

@Lizuma

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Toy Story 4 just cant be canon...

@brandonhaygood5286

Жыл бұрын

Toy story 3 just ended far too perfectly.

This deserves millions of views. The message of this movie is disgusting. "Your life doesn't need meaning, or responsabilities. Ignore all your principles and just do whatever you want."

@becdoesyoutube

Жыл бұрын

It's essentially saying we're all Disney's trash and that we should just give up and succumb to everything, that we're all just chickens in a cold hard factory being fed shit by the people in there and they've been shit so long that we don't even realize it. And you know what, after realizing TS4 is trash, I myself am legit almost close to abandoning hope at all, and instead ruining everything further, because what have I got to lose?

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@becdoesyoutube It ends at 3 because me and my sister grew up with Toy Story 3 and we still love it at 20

@victor2641

Жыл бұрын

🙄

@lucaslucas2933

Жыл бұрын

It’s like the bad ending to the Truman Show.

@blobbertmcblob4888

Жыл бұрын

What about the "it's ok to leave your family, and healthy relationships, for a toxic relationship just because you used to be in love"?

52:17 Actually, it's even worse than him having no involvement. Duke exists in the film solely as a way for the writers to further attack Woody's ideals; to serve as "evidence" that dedicating yourself to one kid is "harmful" and stupid, since Duke is apparently only ever hurt by caring about his kid.

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

Don’t be so Cynical, they also wanted to rip off the Eval Knieval toy without paying royalties.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

@@piperian3962 yet they will shell out money for other people’s characters for that Chip ‘n’ Dale movie?

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

And also to further attack Jessie's same ideals. (Remember her flashback from Toy Story 2?)

@KyleEvra

Жыл бұрын

They also attacked Bo Peep for being girly, sweet, and kind-hearted they hated how girly girl she was.

@SuperIsaiah

Жыл бұрын

"But man was it soo funny when he started having PTSD over being abandoned by his kid. That was such a funny moment!" - the toy story 4 director

What I hated most about this movie, aside from Buzz's assassination (which you described beautifully), is how unfair it is to Woody. The movie tries to convince us Woody has issues, namely emotional hang-ups over Andy, and that makes him irrational. When in reality, most of the decisions he makes are informed and rational. He went with Bonnie to preschool because it was best for Bonnie, not because he's confused and doesn't realize "Bonnie isn't Andy," as Dolly said. He tried to keep Forky safe because Bonnie loved him and relied on him for emotional support, not because he needed to feel useful. He wanted to go back inside the antique store to rescue Forky not only because Forky was important to Bonnie, but because Woody bonded with him over their long walk and considered him a friend. And besides that, Woody is too decent to abandon an innocent toy in a hostage situation with violent, torturous thugs. It's not because he's "still clinging to" Andy, like Bo said. Also, when Bo said that nonsensical line "No, you need Bonnie," I thought, "OF COURSE HE DOES! And Bonnie needs Woody! Children and toys need each other! Isn't that the whole point of a toy's existence?" Because belonging to kids didn't work out for Bo, she developed a snotty attitude toward toys who are committed to their kids. I hoped she'd realize how wrong she was and join Woody when he went back to Bonnie, but no, Woody concedes that SHE was right and joins her as a lost toy. Poor Woody. He deserved better. All the toys did.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

I remember my Woody and Jessie giving me comfort as I was depressed for weeks. I even revealed my emotions to Woody and he was truly DEVASTATED. I love Woody and Jessie so much even though I’m 20 years old

@liamphibia

Жыл бұрын

It's so disappointing the world will never know how bad Toy Story 4 actually is. However, I do know it's already aging like metal to rust.

@minnesotavikingsfan9010

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 my favorite is toy story 4

@minnesotavikingsfan9010

Жыл бұрын

@@liamphibia toy story 4 is my favorite

I always thought the best direction for Forky would have him being a spork being used as a toy is dangerous for Bonnie, due to his points and pipe cleaners possibly hurting her. So he tries everything to keep away from Bonnie, for her own safety. Having him bond with Bo Peep due to her also being potentially dangerous because she's made of porcelain (because she isn't a true toy) and instead of Woody, Forky joins her on her quest of giving proper lost toys actual kids to look after, something they know is better for those toys, rather than them. Of course a clever explanation as to why Forky is alive would be needed. (Possibly his parts being used commonly on cheaper toys suck as googly eyes, popsicle sticks, and pipe cleaners contributing to his sentience, or he is given parts of an actual toy, like a Ken Hawaiian shirt or something similar.) Of course the rest of the movie would need a massive overhaul and/or a totally new plot, and a complete character overwrite to make them more likable, consistent, and useful. One idea I feel would be an interesting plot would've involved the idea of Toys becoming less and less popular as more and more children turn to technology such as mobile phones. A new toy that is bought is hardly used and feels even more of a sense of dread as they never had that time in the spotlight. Woody and Buzz look to cheer them up.

@KyleEvra

2 жыл бұрын

How dare you! Bo Peep is my favorite. Not the TS4 Bo Peep but the original true Bo Peep. I won't have you or anyone else trash my favorite character to fit into your disgusting stories.

@doodledangernoodle2517

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleEvra what?

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleEvra All they're really doing is taking the Bo Peep this movie singlehandedly manufactured and giving her a righteous cause, fitting to the general motivation of pretty much any toy to bring joy to their children...while making Fork Face more than a walking fetch quest

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I love your idea! My own was probably less interesting in comparison, but it essentially boiled down to giving him a similar arc to Buzz's (since we're already reusing arcs for important characters anyways-), where he essentially learns over the course of the movie that there's joy to find in his new existence, with him mostly avoiding the conversation for most of the movie, leading to...well, the fact that Woody has to just about risk his life and his chance of staying with Bonnie to get through to her new favorite toy, instead of making that entire arc a non-issue It was right there!

@princessthyemis

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a really good idea!!

Toy Story 1: Children are important! Toy Story 2: Children are important! Toy Story 3: Children are important! Toy Story 4 : Girls are important! - So sacrifice everything you have for them. Your family, your values, the greatest friend you've ever had...

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

Woody still cares about my sister now even if she abandoned him 7 years ago. I don’t blame Woody for being mad

@DishonorableMentions452

2 ай бұрын

I have a woody toy and my parents took him away from me :(

There is one thing I did not see mentioned in these kinds of critical reviews. Bonnie lost interest in Woody even though she liked it very much in the past and also it was entrusted to her. But she keeps Forky, a modified fork found in a trash can for two whole years! (as seen in the final scene where Jesse accompanies her for the first day in grade school). I find this ridiculous!

@mystorule1299

2 жыл бұрын

As indicated in the other parts this is contradicted when it is explicitly stated in the film that Bonnie plays with woody 4 out of 7 days of the week, the fact that woody is played with during the actual road trip WITH the fork, and the whole closet thing being explained by dolly saying that the mother puts all the toys in there when she cleans up. Though that’s been addressed, the issue is that the movie frames it as if woody has been neglected entirely which is untrue even in the fucking movie

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

I remember my Woody getting abandoned by my sister and Woody was under her bed for 3 years. I got up on a normal night as usual but then I saw Woody depressed and I comforted him during his conversation about how all this happened that year. Then I hugged him and said “I’ll never do anything like that to you ever Woody”

And oh yeah, I almost completely forgot. The production of this movie was essentially restarted and was delayed for another year. You know what other movies had to essentially restart production? While not also receiving another full year to work on it? Toy Story 1 & 2!!! TS1 was nearly cancelled because Disney hated the Black Friday Reel so much, so the team at Pixar had to do something Josh Cooly never even considered, they rewrote the whole film. TS2 was 80% complete when the files got corrupted, and when they got them back John Lasseter came back from a trip and decided to rewrite the movie, they basically had about 7 months to finish the movie since Disney didn't want to move the release date. Both still turned out great...WHAT IS THIS MOVIES EXCUSE?!?!

@smugalice6206

2 жыл бұрын

Because Cooley didn’t give a shit

@Randomiser911

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly this movie sucked dog balls such as ruining almost what every single character? The story honestly not making sense and for forky just not being a good character I’m really mad that they ruined one of my favourite movie franchises of all time honestly they should have just cancelled the movie it would have saved the franchise a lot more I still love the original three but this one is not good out of a ten u would give it a 2/10

@Thomasmemoryscentral

2 жыл бұрын

@@Randomiser911 yeah and keep in mind that both toy story w cane out in the mid to late 90s. A part of the decade where CGI animation is just statying to catch on in gaming and films, DVDs are created bringing forth a new way of home media and internet is still being developed. They had no high speed internet for this stuff back then. This film got created in the late 2010s and somehow has a more broken story than 2 films that came out in a decade of beta internet and were both almost scrapped

@SeaStarTea

2 жыл бұрын

What's this movie's excuse? No John Lasseter.

@jerelminter

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeaStarTea Yeah, John Lasseter was supposed to direct the original Toy Story 4 that was scrapped back when the movie was announced to be made in 2014. It was originally supposed to be released in 2017, as a movie that still had the romantic relationship with Woody and Bo Peep but without the connection to the previous trilogy. Pixar got rid of it, and that's how we ended up with this piece of crap version.

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain - Woody, Toy Story 4

@KyleEvra

2 жыл бұрын

Ironic thing is Woody was originally going to be a Villain in the original Toy Story.

@nicolelawless3199

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleEvra Woody would have been so badass and he already was in Toy Story. Toy Story (1995) helped me with my confidence and I don’t know where I’d be without my Woody

I finally put my finger on what annoys me about this movie: It gives Woody a happy ending; not Toy Story a happy ending. Aside from Woody, Buzz, and Bo Peep, The rest of the cast is downright shelved the majority of the movie. Woody may be Toy Story’s main character, but the precious movies emphasized that he wasn’t the only character. Here, everybody else sits in the RV and does next to nothing while Woody is off farting around, and Buzz goes after him. Jessie does one important thing.... and that’s it. Rex, Ham, Slinky, Potato heads, LGMs, Bullseye, - THEY DO NOTHING. Toy Story 3 found a way to give equal importance to every character. They all had their own fun one liners and moments to shine in the plot. Not only do they have nothing to do here, they are stuck with Bonnie’s toys, who have nothing to say or do either. Toy Story isn’t Woody’s roundup; it’s Toy Story. The other characters matter too. But this movie throws them all aside and dosent even give them fitting goodbyes. Inexcusable.

@princessthyemis

2 жыл бұрын

SO well said! Yes! Exactly!

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

I remember getting a happy ending with Woody and my sister gave him to me 5 years ago since she was growing out of him. We were 15 at the time this happened in 2017 and we’re going to be 20 years old next month

@Anyo92

Жыл бұрын

This wouldn’t have even been a happy ending for woody in my opinion

@zekun4741

Жыл бұрын

@@Anyo92 true. being stuck in a relationship with amber heard

@KyleEvra

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about Bo Peep they really did her dirty in this film.

After watching every part of this review/analysis, I can safely say this is the greatest analysis of Toy Story 4 I have ever seen!!! Not only do you review this movie in great detail, and make these 5 parts feel like a classic KZread reviewer would do, what I especially love about this is how blunt, brutal, and honest you are about every single problem with this movie. You don’t apologize for saying what you have to say like most critics or any sensitive person these days. Always giving free passes to (as Fork-face would describe with his first word) TRASH!!! Whenever you assume people will have a counter argument (which you were almost on point on many of their assumed arguments and claims), you counter back at full force with actual facts, research, and even using that vile, horrifically disgusting audio commentary of Toy Story 4 to rest your cases. It is inspiring to see you stick to your guns, and prove to the ignorant that movies like this are super manipulative, misleading, and worst of all, have an agenda to follow by making the classic characters dumber than the new characters (*coughs* Bo Peep *coughs*). To me, the Toy Story series ended with Toy Story 3, while the shorts are meant to be more of a treat to tie certain loose ends such as Jessie’s claustrophobia.

@RealHyperHedgehog

Жыл бұрын

I see you everywhere, and I enjoy your plush videos.

@Blox117

Жыл бұрын

he missed an analogy at the end, where 343 screwed halo 4 and the rest just like many other franchises these days

@korrblank1361

Жыл бұрын

No it ended with toy story 4.

@bengilhooly3616

Жыл бұрын

@@korrblank1361 that’s your opinion but take it somewhere else please

I can't even image how much work and effort you put into this. All I can say is thank you for all your hard work. I hope now that you were able to make this videoseries, you were able to get some closure to the movie that ruined one of the pieces of media you love and respect so much.

@GamingMagic13

2 жыл бұрын

It was hundreds of hours of work, but seeing people share their same frustrations with this movie and enjoying the series all the way through made it all worth it in the end. And yes. After two years of this film stewing in my mind and hating it more and more with each passing day, this is the most cathartic series I have ever created.

@sameera.abdullah719

Жыл бұрын

@@GamingMagic13 Yeah! Great job! Congrats!

I can't believe I'm gonna say this but Toy Story 4 makes Cars 2 look like a masterpiece

@smugalice6206

2 жыл бұрын

At least Incredibles 2 had considerable amount of cake.

@scottchaison1001

2 жыл бұрын

@@smugalice6206 ¿?

@smugalice6206

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottchaison1001 I’m referring to Helen’s 🍑

@WaterDefysGravity

2 жыл бұрын

I love cars 2 but even then toy story 4 made me so mad like even tho Mater was annoying for the whole film it didn’t necessarily ruin a lot unlike toy story

@MarioSonicPhillyFan700

2 жыл бұрын

@@WaterDefysGravity I agree! They should've ended the franchise of Toy Story after 3 but I did like the shorts and the 2 specials Toy Story Of Terror and That Time Forgot

It's hilarious how Bo Peep treats Woody. Not because abuse is funny, trust me, I've been there, but because of how blatantly of a double standard it is. Bo Peep is toxic, constantly treating Woody like he's a useless idiot and ordering him around. Then in the end, she gets what she wants, she doesn't get any ridicule for her actions. If a guy, say Woody, was the one who did this, he'd be labeled as misogynistic, a "toxic man," abusive, etc. I was in a toxic relationship before and people ALWAYS believe the woman over the man. You can be emotionally manipulated, physically and verbally abused, berated and degraded, but if you so much as even speak up against your female abuser, YOU are immediately labeled as the toxic one in the relationship and everyone turns against you. Bo Peep is a HORRIBLE person, and the fact that they treat this relationship as perfectly fine really speaks volumes.

@bengilhooly3616

Жыл бұрын

In today’s world, people are more likely to believe women over men. If a man and woman got into a fight and were asked who hit first and the man said the woman did, nobody would think it’s that bad. But if the man hit the woman first, there’ll probably be charges. Makes me sick

@gwenjackson8583

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing this out. There is a double standard and it irritates me. Interesting how “strong, independent” female characters are often written as abusive, condescending, insufferable people.

@albertocamilomejiaroldan6116

Жыл бұрын

Soy de latinoamerica, estoy de acuerdo Disney debería dejar de usar relacionas tóxicas en sus películas.

@nicolelawless9942

Жыл бұрын

I can’t stand Bo, luckily Woody.EXE is nothing like that. He always makes sure me, my 2009 Woody, my sister and Mummy isn’t separated. We all weren’t when I was ill in hospital but luckily Woody.EXE got us altogether for that

@h34rteyezz86

Жыл бұрын

Also, this double standard on itself is misogynistic as well, because it’s basically saying that “oh women can’t be capable of abusing others! They’re too weak and fragile to do that! Especially to men!” Also trying to defend female abusers with that excuse also harms female victims of female abusers. So yeah, this double standard is absolutely unjust

The worst part about this ending is that at least a few glaring issues could have been solved by instead having Bo Peep leave with Woody! Have her rejoin the family. Have him say something to the effect of "You've got a lot of catching up to do!" Have Bonnie get *really* excited about having such a pretty toy like Bo Peep (even as her parents remind her to be very gentle with her.) At the end, maybe even include a brief scene where Andy pays Bonnie a visit while he's home from college...and a sentimental, nostalgic look appears in his eyes when he sees *Bo Peep* among Bonnie's assortment of toys. It wouldn't fix *everything*, but it at least wouldn't undo the core of Woody's character.

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

Or, perhaps...even if she still left, potentially leaving her entire involvement in this movie pointless to the characters, they could use that chance as a way of teaching Woodie that there are times where it's best to just...let go Bo Peep wants freedom, and Woody is ultimately devoted to his family, they simply can't stay together without sacrificing something (as shown with Woody sacrificing his whole character), so it's best to just...let go and move on

@smallrockstudios9395

Жыл бұрын

And the story would have a theme that didn’t contradict the the first three movies yeah

@talhahhussain5603

Жыл бұрын

@@damienearl1310 One of the original endings actually involved Bo Peep finding a new kid and giving Woody one final goodbye before leaving forever. That ending wouldn't have solved ALL of this movie's problems, but it would've been a better ending than what we got.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

It would at least be consistent with the message and themes of the first three films about how a toy's purpose is to make a kid happy and about the importance of family. But no, they had to throw that all away for the hedonistic "what's right for you is all that matters" message that's prevailed in our culture since the 2008 recession.

@mechamedegeorge6786

Жыл бұрын

And have it be a short and not a full movie

I saw this movie in theaters, loathed it for most of the reasons you gave in this series, and never watched the film again. As unforgivable as the film is in itself, the fact that the director himself lampshades his bullshit makes it infinitely worse. FIX THE PROBLEMS IN YOUR MOVIE! IF IT'S NOT YOUR JOB WHOSE IS IT?!?!

@MrAnthonyIII

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the amount of times the director was like "this scene doesn't make any sense at all, but oh well har har!" was so insulting to the intelligence of the viewers

@Thomasmemoryscentral

2 жыл бұрын

It's a tragedy that Pixar started off the 2010's with a proper finale to the Toy Story saga and then by 2019 to close off the decade, a 4th film comes along to ruin it

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

@@Thomasmemoryscentral The perfect metaphor for the shit show that is current-year Disney.

@korrblank1361

Жыл бұрын

@@MrAnthonyIII it did make sense they were joking.

@korrblank1361

Жыл бұрын

@@Thomasmemoryscentral the last part is horseshit, as in “you’re an idiot who’s wrong”, dude.

“So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.” - George Lucas

I have not watched this movie. the third one ripped me to shreds, and I cried for 40 minutes after leaving the cinema. Toy Story was done for me with that movie. I didn't even want to watch the specials. There was nothing left to tell. and I was fine with that. I still cry just thinking about the end of 3. I had no desire to watch 4 because of that. And after hearing what the "story" was about, I was like heck no! It is super stupid that an arts and crafts project can become a living toy. Then I started hearing the other stuff, because although I did not want to watch the movie, I was still curious. And once I heard that Woody, steadfast, loyal, stubborn to a fault Woody would willingly choose to leave his family, and his new kid, because he felt left out, and reunited with Bo Peep. I was like the people behind this do not know these characters, nor do they care. This is why I do not get excited about new things, or desire for continuations to be made of things that I love. I will keep what I love, anything new can go away. My brother watched it, and admitted that the story is flawed, but told me I should watch it for it's visuals alone. I was rather insulted. I am an artist, I love animation, and would love to get better at animating. But even though I am an artist I know that the visuals are just the pretty bow you put on a story. the art can be trash, and the story grate, which inturn makes the movie overall grate. like the original Toy Story. It is visually flawed now by today's standards. But is a wonderful movie. But no matter how many pretty bows you put on a bad story, you are never going to change it into a good story. It will always be rotten at it's core. That is a lesson I learned a long time ago with a rerun of a Berenstein Bears Show episode. The theme of the episode was basically to not judge a book by it's cover, but by it's contents. Though it was illustrated with apples. The apple that looks perfect was rotten, but the apple that was lumpy and flawed was just right for making apple pie. Just because a movie is shiny, dose not excuse it from it's flaws. Despite being an artist, and loving animation, I usually would rather read the book/manga then watch the movie/anime version. with a few exceptions. I will not chose "The Misadventures of Hiccup the Viking" over, "How to Train Your Dragon." I enjoy both equally. And despite how different they are from each other, the core of the character of Hiccup shine through in both. They did not change his core character to make the story work. so I accept it. Anyways, this was a great series. I really enjoy hearing people put their hears and souls into something they are passionate about. And it is all the better when it is something that I to am passionate about in my own way. I grew up with Toy Story. I also had the VHS's of both the first and second. They made me very passionate about toys, and wanting to take the best care of them as I can. I get mad when I find a toy that has been mistreated. I have a small collection of rescued toys that I found at the goodwill that I knew would never be bought by a parent for their child in the state they where in. I have done my best to rehabilitate them. I've replaced eyes, and nose on plushies, sculpted new feet for a Plastic t-rex toy because something chewed it's feet off. most people would just see it as trash, but I see it as something that deserves dignity and respect, and a second chance. Because of these movies.

@hannahlynn8028

2 жыл бұрын

i really appreciate what you do with toys?

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@hannahlynn8028 I love my Woody to death but he just sits on my bed now protecting me. My Woody is definitely the one from Toy Story (1995)

Before Cooley himself, who admittedly should not have been given such a big job due to lack of experience and him dipping out of Pixar afterwards can seem pretty douchy, it was definitely Disney's fault first and foremost for even telling Pixar that they should make a Toy Story 4 after how they had finished it as a trilogy so long ago already, it was a forced sequel meant primarily just to make more money

LOL. "I'm taking your voice box so I can be loved, so turn around, Woody, please?" That made me LOL. Imagine if Josh Cooley wrote Avengers. Thanos: "I'm snapping half of all life in the universe, so hand over the Time Stone, please?"

@korrblank1361

Жыл бұрын

That’s not how it would go.

@scrittle

Жыл бұрын

False equivalence but I get what you mean

Something i must add about Cars 2 is that at least that movie tried and took risks even if they weren''t well executed,they at least took the concept of talking cars out of their safe zone and had them doing something besides racing,plus you could tell the crew had passion for the series,meanwhile Toy Story 4 is the most unnecesary,passionless and safest shit Pixar could ever come with.

@pranavrao6370

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Cars 2 is at least is a unique viewing experience from Pixar's catalog, whereas TS4 is just a worse version of TS 1-3, Soul, Finding Dory, and Inside Out combined.

This video essay series on Toy Story 4 truly is a masterpiece. You've earned my sub. The passion you had when talking about how bad this movie truly spoke to me. I recently decided to rewatched the first two movies and finally saw Toy Story 3 for the first time and I cried at the end for about 15 minutes, then decided to watch Toy Story 4 immediately afterwards and instantly regretted it. I don't consider Toy Story 4 to be cannon at all because watching it felt like a punch in the gut. Looking forward to that Apollo Justice video.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

It should have ended at 3 and it’s the best Toy Story movie yet

@isavenewspapers8890

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 You again?

@sameera.abdullah719

Жыл бұрын

I TOTALLY agree!

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@isavenewspapers8890 Yep, I’m always here

@Mr_Gamer-Random

Жыл бұрын

Another thing is I can't believe people defend this movie, it's an utter piece of garbage

38:15 Maybe the backpack IS sentient. That would explain how it teleported around through the whole movie -_- Jokes aside, this analysis is amazing! I agree with everything you said, and it was validating because I always thought I was the only one who hated this movie with her entire heart! When I saw it for the first (and last) time, it completely broke me! The entire movie was totally disrespectful towards the original trilogy, and the ending felt insulting, like a stab in my childhood. Your videos were like a therapy of some sort, so thank you for having made them. I especially loved the parts about the character assassination of the main cast. You explained it extremely well, and it's the thing about the movie that stung the most. I can't believe they really made Buzz this dumb for NO reason other than that stupid running gag, cut Jessie completely out (and I personally think it's because they wanted to make Bo the strong female character, and Jassie was the competition), and Woody... ugh, let's not even talk about Woody, you already did an amazing job unpacking that. In conclusion... fantastic pentalogy! I'll probably rewatch these videos from time to time, because the pure rage they radiate is strangely calming for some reason, ahah Oh, and I also guessed right about the scene in the montage that destroyed the entire movie, yay! P.s. Sorry if my English is bad, I'm not a native speaker

@KyleEvra

Жыл бұрын

I feel this movie made people hate Bo Peep more... 😞 When it's not her fault but the shitty writer's taking a shat on her character molding her to fit their new shitty "Oc" meaning "Original Character" Original true Bo Peep wouldn't have such a emotionally abusive personality like this.

@SuperIsaiah

Жыл бұрын

It's funny because Jessie does an amazing job at empowering young women. She's tough, and brave, and she still has fears just like anyone but overcomes them. "But noo, no, Jessie never actually gets over her fears, silly! That all happened in your imagination. No, Jessie is just a stupid fearful cowgirl, forget her! You need some REAL women empowerment. And nothing says empowerment like being hurtful, selfish, and abusive!" Toy story 4 basically is telling women that empowerment isn't overcoming fears, empowerment is gaslighting and disrespecting people around you. #girlboss!!

I remember when Disney & Pixar announced they were making a Toy Story 4 & I remember thinking "But why though? Toy Story 3 was already a great ending for the franchise." I liked the Toy Story Toons/Shorts like Toy Story of Terror and That Time Forgot, but we really didn't need a 4th film. Also, back in 2013, I used to make cringe KZread Videos with plushes (based on Super Mario Logan's KZread Channel) called Buddy and Woody's Funny Adventure & funnily enough, I LEGIT predicted Woody leaving Bonnie and his friends 6 years before Toy Story 4 existed but I mean I was a 12 year old who had no experience writting stories, making cringe KZread Videos. I guess the writers/directors watched my video and thought "Let's make Woody leave his friends and kid."

The sad part is that I actually enjoyed this movie when I first saw it, but now taking it all into account especially Woody's character assassination, I sure as hell am not a fan of it now.

@JayRedGear

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. I didn't mind it when I first watched it but now, thinking about it more, the movie really spat on basically everything from the original series. And it really makes Bo Peep unlikeable.

@KikiCatMeow

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I hadn’t seen the other films in years and typically aren’t too critical of movies on a first or second viewing so I walked away from it thinking it was okay, good even. Then I watched this series and another 2 hour video ranting about the film and realized just how contrived it actually was

@becdoesyoutube

2 жыл бұрын

I used to like it but my interest in it is taking a freakin nosedive into a mountain rn.

@Anyo92

Жыл бұрын

The visuals, “nostalgia”, new characters, and soundtrack are meant to act as a numbing, decieving exterior to this movie; designed to distract from the horrid, rotten innards of this 100 minute long giant slap in the face

@becdoesyoutube

Жыл бұрын

@@Anyo92 Nah a slap sounds too generous. It'd have to be the most grotesque surgery of some... (ahem) private places, live on camera, FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE!

I also want to point out the issue of Woody being with Bo from another perspective-a perspective of a person on the both asexual and aromantic spectrum. Now, I know that this film is not going for any kind of ace/aro representation. And I'm not asking for it. But I do have to put my two cents in. I'm going to talk about amatonormativity. Amatonormativity is a word coined to describe the widespread assumption that everyone is better off in an exclusive, romantic, long-term coupled relationship, and that everyone is seeking such a relationship. It is also related to the widespread idea that romantic relationships are more important or more valuable than platonic ones. So, how does this relate to Toy Story? Well, Toy Story is a series that has a very, very strong show of found family trope and the strength of friendship. It does have romance in it, but romance is never really a part of a main plot. Heck, it's not even a B-plot. At no point do any of the films even remotely imply that a romantic connection is more valuable than a platonic one. Jessie loves Woody and Buz equally, just in a different ways. She loves Woody as a friend as a brother, and Buzz as a romantic partner. Same goes for Buzz, Woody and Jessie are equally important to him, but one as a best friend/brother figure and the other as a romantic partner. Now, Bo was not a main character like the trio therefore her and Woody's relationship was not as fleshed out, but fine, once could argue he valued his relationship with her as much as he did his relationships with Buzz and Jessie. But on the other hand we only see a small glimpse of him missing her in the third film. Still, it was never implied that Bo was more important to Woody than anyone else in the group, let alone his two closest friends, Jessie and Buzz. Once he lost her, he moved on, he kept his connections with the rest of the group a dn we don't get a feeling that this break-up was something that made his life super tragic and sad. This, the idea that platonic relationships still matter to a person SO MUCH that Woody, the main character, is willing to go trough heck and back, to die for his friends or with his friends, none of which he has any romantic inclinations towards is so refreshing to see. You will so often hear that romance is something that gives life meaning, that it's the most important thing in the world and to see a film that is not even trying to subvert it, it instead just does it's own thing, it's amazing. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate romance, I'm just annoyed when it's put above other types of relationships as more important. And than Toy Story 4 comes along. I did not hate the idea of Woody reconecting with Bo. I may be gray-ace and gray-aro, but I can be a sucker for a well executed romance as much as the next person. Emphasis on well-executed. Also, as I said a romance that is not put above other forms of relationships. And what does Toy Story 4 do? Has a very....meh...romance between Woody and Bo only for him to abandon his friends, his family to be with her. And don't tell me "It's because he wanted a life of a lost toy". Because if it was just about him wanted a different lifestyle, he would have done it Bo or no Bo. The film framed bim choosing his ex-romantic partner who he only rekindled his relationship FOR A DAY over his family who he was willing to die for and die with. Which only fortifies the idea that romantic relationships are more important. Arrgghh...I just cant. This is very rambly, but I think I got to the point I wanted to make.

I appreciate these videos from the bottom of my heart. You nailed every single frustration that I have. I've never been red-faced with anger over a movie until the end of Toy Story 4 happened. I've loved these characters my whole life. They are like family I grew up with and it's so infuriating to see them annihilated by writers that had more than plenty of source material to look back on. The rest of my family loved this movie, saying "well Woody's been a toy forever. He's basically retiring to be with Bo. He deserves a happy ending after all he's done." And I agree. Woody is the most self-sacrificing character you'll ever see and he deserves a happy ending. But NOT at the expense of his very core values. That's the point of CHARACTER. Woody is a person you can absolutely depend on, no matter the situation. No matter how much he's tempted. He's shown that time and time again. And all of that was utterly decimated in less than five minutes.

@MrAnthonyIII

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Not the mention that the idea that Woody is unhappy with Bonnie, Buzz, Jessie, the rest of his family--and that he'd be happier with Bo--is a completely left field idea that writers just threw into this film. No where in any other film or short film has it been established that Woody isn't happy with his family, and that he's only staying with them out of obligation. It's always been made clear that he loves the kid he's with and that he's happy being with Buzz and the others The writers are trying to gaslight the audience into making them believe "oh, Woody actually always loved Bo Peep and always wanted to leave with her!" by throwing in that "flashback" scene at the beginning. It's once again the writers *cheating* by retconning that Woody had always wanted to leave, even though the actual Woody from previous films harbored no such sentiment Not to mention, even if Woody did want to leave with someone, why with Bo Peep? I woman who constantly belittles and disrespects him? And why does the terrible villain Gabby Gabby deserve a happy ending? The entire message of this film is horrible

This whole series of videos needs more views. No one has ever ripped this movie to shreds this much until now. Even if I thought the movie was decent personally, I still knew there was problems with it even when it first came out. And just seeing it all unfold here is satisfying to see. It's like every small thing this film tries to do fails spectacularly. And speaking of small things, I'm gonna be honest, I think even the movie's overall art direction is flawed. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great looking film. But at the same time I can't help but feel the team putted WAY too much work into the lighting and realism when they didn't need to. So much so that it just becomes obnoxious and uncanny to look at sometimes. Almost like they just threw a shit ton of RTX filters onto everything and considered that peak animation. And considering the amount of times the animators have cheated with some shots throughout the movie, it only makes the animation look even worse. Cause while the lighting is mostly solid, the actual animation itself is flawed. And the only thing that's distracting the casual viewer from seeing those flaws is the pretty lighting. Yeah they're small, but they also play a big part in holding this movie together (which obviously failed miserably). And while TS4 is technically peak animation for the Toy Story franchise, let's be honest here, it's really not. Not even close. While the modeling, textures, and lighting are fantastic, there's some parts of it that just feel off. The locations are fine and look good for usual Pixar standards (minus the movie's issues with how the lighting's used for some scenes), but the character models on the other hand are a different story. While the models themselves don't bad, the way they're shaded looks strange to me. I know they were trying to go for a realistic look with the textures and whatnot, but almost everyone in the movie looks like they've been glossed up with nail polish. And while for some characters like Woody and Bo Peep it works decently, it doesn't work as well for others like Buzz, Slinky or Mr. Potato Head. If you look at the main cast's renders from the first 3 movies and compare em to ones from TS4's, you'll see a major difference with how the lighting is used and applied to a character (dated cg and era differences aside). I know animation is an evolving artform, but just because you have more better lighting and tools nowadays doesn't mean your animation's better. I mean look at TS1. Despite it's dated graphics, it had WAY more care and thought put into the overall look, story, and animation. Same goes for 2 and 3. Even if CGI was still evolving during those times, the team behind those 3 films were able to create a great trilogy of movies that would be praised and remembered by generations. TS4 meanwhile feels like it only exists because the animation team were like "Hey, wanna see the Toy Story cast with our latest tech? Here you go. Now give us your money for movie tickets!!", and then proceeded to do the bare minimum with the film's actual story. It's just further proof that TS4 did not need to exist. It's the same kind of argument as someone using an art program. The software itself doesn't matter, all it comes down to is what the person does with it. And in the case for TS4, I feel that Pixar prioritized the tech more with this one than the actual meat (which is the story). And because of that, we now have a movie that feels like hitting the wrong note on a keyboard.

@eatatjoes6751

2 жыл бұрын

Bo and the toys look goddamn creepy now - almost like the dummies.

@tekateman6464

Жыл бұрын

I actually think 6 hours of video debunking a

@randomspider725

Жыл бұрын

lmeo Then why did you waste even more of your time by typing a reply into a comment?

@nicolelawless9942

Жыл бұрын

@@tekateman6464 I could go hours talking about how emotionally attached I am to my 2009 Woody and my beloved Woody.EXE I recently saved because he looked dreadfully cold so I put him on my bed by my 2008 Woody. They were both talking within minutes and Woody tells Woody.EXE about my life story and I’ve kept him since

@mrbinklesgames6620

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless9942 toy story 4 is the best

Well this has been quite a wild ride. I just want to remind you that none of this was in vain. As someone who hates this film and had a little brother who used to watch it all day every day I am so glad someone finally called out this film and revealed just how horrific it is in just about every single way. I can tolerate a lot of awful stuff. I made it through cars 2 annoyed but not broken. Dangonronpa drained me but I still found it to be at least entertainingly bad. But this movie didn’t just drain me this was the first time I felt outright ANGRY with any piece of media ever. It astounds me how you don’t have more subs or views because after spending hours analyzing this torture device of a movie you deserve way more than what you actually have. ❤️

@GamingMagic13

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you; reading stuff like this means more to me than you could imagine.

@biivamunner3122

2 жыл бұрын

Not a Danganronpa fan?

@falconheavy0533

2 жыл бұрын

@@biivamunner3122 No

@TrueZoomerof2003

2 жыл бұрын

I feel bad for your brother now. I can guarantee you, he did not get brought into this world for him to have a childhood with Toy Story 4 in it.

@biivamunner3122

2 жыл бұрын

@@falconheavy0533 Okay, understandable. Just asking though, is it the whole franchise or just everything after Goodbye Despair?

I've never seen Toy Story 4, but I remember when this came out...I was always worried about this movie. I grew up with all the Toy Story movies, and are literally my favorite Pixar Movies of all time. Toy Story 3 was the best ending for the Trilogy, just like Halo 3 was for Halo. Unlike Halo 4, which while having issues, was probably the best ending we got with the Chief and Cortana Arc, Toy Story 4 is NOT like Halo 4. While Halo 4 has issues, the Story was passionate and wanted to give a concluding end to the characters we had been playing for the past 11 years in Halo 4 Toy Story is a movie that ruined 24 years of a franchise, assassinating all the characters people grew up with, and trying to bank off new characters for easy profit. As someone who LOVED Buzz Lightyear AND Woody's relationship (and has a similar bond with one of my best friends irl), Toy Story 4 literally spat on that and make it worse. Buzz was completely assassinated to make him stupid, change him to fit their plot. Buzz had been with Woody since Toy Story 1 FFS, Buzz wouldn't have acted like this at FUCKING ALL! And if we talk about WOODY, OH GOD, I FUCKING HATE IT!! WHY IS WOODY A DUMBASS? WHY DOES WOODY ABANDON HIS FRIENDS AND CHILD FOR A BITCH WHO HE HADNT BEEN WITH FOR 9 YEARS?! WHY IS WOODY A SIMP FOR BO?! WHY DOES WOODY NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO SAVE HIM FROM SITUATIONS HE HAD BEEN IN BEFORE AND FOUND WAYS TO GET OUT??? WHY IS BUZZ A MORON?!? Wait, I know why. THEY WANTED TO MAKE THE NEW TOYS INTO THE FAVORITES TO MAOE A QUICK BUCK

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

And I think it's simple It's because they gave one of the single most important roles involving one of their most beloved, heartwarming series...to someone who can barely comprehend it

@nicolelawless3199

2 жыл бұрын

I remember when my sister abandons Woody and Woody told me that he never forgives my sister or doesn’t love her anymore which doesn’t surprise me. Woody cried explaining everything that happened, I hugged him during our heart wrenching conversation and I ended it with “I love you Woody, I’ll never do anything like that to you”. Then Woody hugged me and I remember him saying this “it’s so good to be with you rather than your sister” Woody was literally shaking like hell

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 *gasp* That's so touching and emotional that it's worthy of Wattpad!

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@damienearl1310 That was my first time seeing Woody alive and I loved it. Even Jessie came up on my bed to comfort Woody and this really made me cry. Then on Sunday, my sister tried to take Woody back but Woody refused, yelled at my sister for what she did to him. Me and Woody were literally laughing and having a good time again after all that

@indeepjable

Жыл бұрын

what. im confusioned

Josh Cooley, the Ken Penders of Toy Story… Seriously, I’d take even Child’s Play 3, a film with 27/100 on Metacritic, over this. Funny how a rushed, critically panned horror movie is more consistent and a better follow-up than this “sequel”.

@ianhawke2203

2 жыл бұрын

Btw, not trying to defend their decision to not recast Potato Head, but his family apparently asked for his voice to be archived. Correct me if I’m wrong.

@TDM1138

2 жыл бұрын

Child’s Play 3 has that awesome finale at the carnival. I don’t know why people hate that movie so bad.

@ianhawke2203

2 жыл бұрын

@@TDM1138 Me neither, it’s actually pretty good for a film that rushed and nowhere near as bad as Seed. Had it been delayed to 1992/93, it would have been even better.

@abstraction6212

2 жыл бұрын

Toy Story 5: Bonnie abandons sporky and all her toys for a smart phone

@Anyo92

Жыл бұрын

@@abstraction6212 seems like a good alternative fundamental idea for toy story 4 actually 😔

Hey GamingMagic13, I just binged all your parts and i have to say, i have never agreed more with another person on this. Toy Story 4, just the fact it exists, also bothers me. It did not need to, we did not need the aftermath of bonnie with the toys, the finale of Toy Story 3 left everything wrapped up and for interpretation. You ASSUME they will live happily ever after, and with the shorts you mentioned, that i have not watched, which i assume show glimpses of that happily ever after. I believe that was enough. I believe a lot of people believed that was enough. why did we need this Bo Peep nonsense? This Forky nonsense? it was all a marketing ploy and a delay thing as you mentioned. I can't wrap my head around it. They deliberately left the original trilogy with this sort of hack added thing that brings EVERYTHING down. Or maybe it makes the other movies shine that much more. I don't even know anymore.

@nerychristian

Жыл бұрын

Disney did the same thing with Star Wars. The original Star Wars trilogy ended perfectly. Disney could have gone in a new direction. They could have created a new story. Instead, they bring back the legacy characters, but ruin their personalities. And they make the new female character perfect, while making the male characters dumb and submissive.

This, what this man is preaching, is exactly why I didn't bother watching Toy Story 4. It ended perfectly in Toy Story 3, anything more would have just been bad.

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

And...that's my problem as well! Especially because everything short of the visuals seem rushed, with the first draft of each idea being the ones that made it through, when...was anyone really itching to have another movie to begin with? Like, can you imagine someone watching the original trilogy, from start to finish, and thinking "Can't wait to see how they continue this!"

@princessthyemis

2 жыл бұрын

You're so lucky you didn't see it. I saw on in theaters for my BIRTHDAY 😭

@shadowsonshadowson3929

2 жыл бұрын

@@princessthyemis I'm sorry for your suffering. If it means anything, I was dragged into watching The Last Airbender when it came out on my family vacation...I'd have rather been at the pool, and to this day, that was only the second movie I've ever fallen asleep on in the actual theater

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

I felt like a fourth movie was a mistake, but I trusted Pixar so much at the time…

@Anyo92

Жыл бұрын

@@piperian3962 everything tends to eventually lose the heart and soul behind it unfortunately

This entire series was incredible. I’ve never been more convinced that a movie was poorly made and completely shatters the characters, the trilogy and the shorts. I was intrigued the entire time, excellent job.

I’m just tired of people who think the best way to make a new film is to subvert expectations, no matter what expense to a character. Take Star Wars. I didn’t hate Rey, I didn’t think having a strong woman or strong black man as central characters were something bad since we already had Leia and Lando and they were great. Yet People say I’m wrong because I didn’t want to see Luke Skywalker, my childhood hero, deemed a failure and crapped on to prop up the new characters. It was insulting. Woody here is the same. They crap all over him then ruin his character and go against everything the original creators intended for the character. It keeps happening, and it’s made entertainment a lot worse over the last several years. Many times, it’s not coming from a place of hate, but a place of love for characters we know wouldn’t act this way in the hands of many other writers and directors.

@eatatjoes6751

Жыл бұрын

The worst part about this movie in my opinion was the advertising because I thought at first, while the movie was useless, it would have utilized all the characters to rescue Forky like that one trailer said. It didn't. Goddamn it.

@cometribbonedits

Жыл бұрын

@@eatatjoes6751 the marketing did click bait us 😬 this movie really sucks oof

@watergaming7543

Жыл бұрын

Pfffft. I wouldn't call finn "Strong" by any sense of the word. After the first movie he became the token black character on top of being a punching bag and victim for the "Strong Female character of the movie" to save. What's even worse about the whole situation, was the potential he had as a character. It's downright insulting what they did to him.

I feel like the Persona 5 let’s play was perfectly timed because I can imagine that Josh Cooley could have his own Palace and his treasure would be that trophy.

@hungaryhippo7294

2 жыл бұрын

Funny cause he also looks like a certain character In said game.

@passthroughgamer1014

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@fullmetalbleachnote

2 жыл бұрын

Please stop, please just stop The villains in persona 5 did truly awful things and were getting away with it due to the power of their position in society Do not I repeat DO NOT equate some guy directing a kids movie you didn't like to a teacher assaulting their student and driving them to jump off a building due to trauma and depression of being violated You are disgusting, you give the persona fanbase the reputation that it has because garbage like this spews out of your mouth, just stop. Think for 5 seconds about the words coming out of your mouth before you hit post

When I first watched the movie in theatres I remember saying "Ok that was alright" I knew it wasn't like the first three but I reasoned "Ok, maybe it's because I'm an adult and now I just don't have that connection to the series anymore". But three years on and after watching this, I've now realized it was just bad writing. The whole Buzz inner-voice sideplot which always irked me from the beginning, Ducky and Bunny and those god awful Family Guy cutaway gags with the keys, Bo Peep being just unbearable and that little shit Giggles, All the classic toys just staying put, Woody betraying his whole character. I really don't know why Tom Hanks and Tim Allen agreed to come back for it.

@damienearl1310

2 жыл бұрын

What's funny about the voice box thing is that I only realized the misunderstanding, which wouldn't have happened in the existing universe, was a crucial plot point for the movie...and when I did, I paused the video and just sat there in awe for about a minute

The fact that Bonnie even chose Woody to be one of the handful of toys she took with on the road trip disproves any counter claim that Bonnie didn't want him. That's right, THE SETTING OF THE MOVIE ITSELF DISPROVES THE REASONING WOODY HAD FOR LEAVING IN THE CLIMAX! Speaking of, if Woody had to leave, Bo Peep is the worst method presented in the film for Woody to leave her. Because the way Bo Peep spends this entire movie treating Woody like crap and isolating him from his toy family makes her come across more like an abusive spouse than the strong female that I'm sure she was intended to be. Honestly, I'd almost go so far as to say she's just as malicious and manipulative as Gabby Gabby is. But even GG ultimately wanted to be loved, so her terrible (and unforgivable) actions were at least rooted in a place of loneliness and desperation, so it's understandable even if it's not justifiable IMO. Meanwhile, Peep has no such excuse. She sees herself as better than Woody, tears him down at every opportunity, acts like she cares about him when it's convenient for her, abandons him and what he needs/wants once she has what she wants, and tempts him to walk away from his family and his kid. And she had NO REASON to do this. She clearly saw little to no worth in him due to how much she's changed over the years, she talked so much crap about him I doubt she ever really missed him, and she (supposedly) had everything she ever wanted at the park. So what reason did she have to tear Woody away from everything he's ever known besides her? Because I'm genuinely at a loss to find said reason. I'm not even kidding, this relationship, as it's portrayed in this film, makes Bo Peep come across as a manipulative abuser, because if the two of them were human and their genders reversed, look at their behavior and tell me that literally everyone wouldn't be outraged at this movie climax. This ending legitimately disgusts me and it's made even worse by the fact that it's painted as a happy ending.

What's even more upsetting about this whole thing is that critical videos like yours have way less views than the ones who are praising this terrible move. I believe that both Disney and KZread are working together to keep content creators like you from spreading the message that this movie sucks.

I saw the trailer to this movie and said "This is gonna suck big fat donkey balls". You Sir have produced a total of 6 hours 18 minutes and 27 seconds of footage explaining just how bad this movie truly is. I applaud your patience, work ethic and passion for the characters that I, as well as many others, have grown up with. If I could afford it right now, I would throw you a thousand dollars on patreon or any other means you have of accepting donations, because I know the algorithm and/or YT monetization system most likely screwed you over for daring to speak against the mouse God. Sadly, I'll I can afford to do right now is like and subscribe, which I will gladly do.

Having Woody go off to be with Bo Peep feels a lot like having Steve Rogers stay in the past to be with Peggy Carter. At first blush, it feels like a happy ending because we feel these characters have earned the chance for personal happiness and love... Until you consider the implications of this decision, how it betrays the character's own ideals, and how it would effect the other characters in the story.

@hunterolaughlin

Жыл бұрын

Also, by Steve Rogers’ action, does it mean Sharon Carter is erased from existence?

@USSFFRU

6 ай бұрын

Tbf for Steve, it atleast played tribute to how a Soldier's Story should end, not in war but to return home and finally settle down. Not even Toy Story 4 could do such.

I was the only one in my family who didn’t like this movie. I explained how it ruined *everything* that was established in all the former movies. Thanks for making me feel less alone lolol

This series was a great watch. I always hated Woody’s final decision. I’ll never understand why he couldn’t have just convinced Bo Beep to join the gang so that they could be together, and even if the movie did end with him leaving Bo and returning to the gang as normal, the movie’s still a giant mess. How is this final installment not going do justice to the rest of the gang? Jessie, Potato Heads, Slink, Rex, Ham, Bullseye? Come on. Pushing them aside just to shine the light on new pointless characters. Awful. Dumbing Buzz down and ruining Woody’s loyalty (to be with bitchy Bo Peep, none the less) is irredeemable. Speaking of which, why are we giving the villain a happy ending? This movie shouldn’t exist.

@KyleEvra

2 жыл бұрын

I feel this movie made people hate Bo Peep more... 😞 When it's not her fault but the shitty writer's taking a shat on her character molding her to fit their new shitty "Oc" meaning "Original Character" Original true Bo Peep wouldn't have such a emotionally abusive personality like this.

@KyleEvra

2 жыл бұрын

I feel this movie made people hate Bo Peep more... 😞 When it's not her fault but the shitty writer's taking a shat on her character molding her to fit their new shitty "Oc" meaning "Original Character" Original true Bo Peep wouldn't have such a emotionally abusive personality like this.

@unstrungbeauty7208

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleEvra Yeah man the stupid writers who loves to ruin people's fun and enjoyment made Bo Peep an unlikeable protagonist.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

This happened between my sister and her Woody and I really hated it so much at first but now that Woody has told me that he never wants to see her again because she abandoned him!

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who hates this film with a passion

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

Opinion respected but I’m glad I grew up with Toy Story 4. I was nearly 17 when it came out and now almost 20 years old

@paulgilbert5278

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, People younger than you hate this movie…

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

You are not alone

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 you have to be a troll, ages 17 to 20 is not growing up.

@paulgilbert5278

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking

At this point, I'm convinced that Disney as well as Pixar doesn't even care about proper storytelling anymore. As long as the children are happy, they won't give a hoot. It's like they've straight up forgotten what a fanbase is. Kids not being able to recognize what makes movies so good and enjoy it regardless of what happens is the sad reality of it all.

@TrueZoomerof2003

2 жыл бұрын

Lastly, I doubt kids these days will have a single thought going through their head about why this is the fourth toy story movie as it's clearly meant to appeal to a newer generation of children with their new characters while also leaving out the ones that us true Toy Story fans loved so much.

I saw... _so many_ abuser tactics in Gabby that it pissed me off for DAYS how she was never punished for it, but rewarded. It reminded me way too much of my own mother.

@aardmanmmg6667

Жыл бұрын

Write a fanfic where Gabby DOES get punished. Thoroughly.

@judebaun9993

Жыл бұрын

@@aardmanmmg6667 she deserves to get punished big time.

@jonusaguilar8156

Жыл бұрын

I hate how I even felt sympathy for her and went along with it

@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj

Жыл бұрын

​@@aardmanmmg6667 use time travel

@aardmanmmg6667

Жыл бұрын

@@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj Can you build one?

And then Woody pushed Peep aside so he could finally confess his adoring affection towards his true love. Buzz Light-year, the man he promised with all his plush heart to stay together, for infinity and beyond. this is my headcannon.

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

Even that would’ve been a better film than what we got. At least that would’ve had him going home from the dance with the one who brought him.

@Somerandomperson-hl1kt

10 күн бұрын

Platonically or Romantically? (Thought I had to ask, because I can’t tell.)

16:55 that scene was incredible when 4th film didn’t exist Now it’s a reminder of a pain that every caring human being had to suffer

Do you know what really grains my gears? It's the fact that none of the voice actors and actresses don't give a hoot about what was said in the script. Especially since they READ it.

I also find Woody selfish to leave Buzz, Ham, Potato, Slinkey, Rex, Jessie, Bullseye and his others friends to stay with his girlfriend. Yes he was in love with her in the previous movies BUT when she wasn't there in Toy story 3, Woody didn't abandon his friends at Sunnyside to find her. He did everything to save them! That was charming, loyal and kind of him. He also made Bonnie happy by making Andy giving them to the kid. That was really cute and nice :D Not in the fourth movie! It's better to leave your kid AND your friends to be with a girl right? It's so much fun to be tossed around by differents kid or burry in the sand, chew by a dog etc. Geez the producers really ruined this character! That was terrible XS

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

Buzz was the one telling Woody to sod off! I remember the night 9/11 decides to join me and Woody and that was the best night of my life until NOW

@oranjaglad8648

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 ...What?

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

@@oranjaglad8648 I almost abandoned Woody for 9/11 and I was glad I didn’t

@KyleEvra

Жыл бұрын

I feel this movie made people hate Bo Peep more... 😞 When it's not her fault but the shitty writer's taking a shat on her character molding her to fit their new shitty "Oc" meaning "Original Character" Original true Bo Peep wouldn't have such a emotionally abusive personality like this.

This is how my Toy Story 4 would’ve been… The whole gang goes on a road trip just as this movie did. The opening and beginning scene of forky would go on but as a comedic relief…up until the point forky and woody gets lost and arrive in the small town at the antique store to end up finding Bo-Peep’s lamp. Woody and forky goes into the shop to seek Bo… instead of running into gabby gabby and her being the antagonist, Al would be the returning villain. The wiki mention that his company went bankrupt and he lives with his mother. The old lady in the antique store could’ve took the role as Al’s mother in which Al comes to visit her shop to see if any toys from the round-up gang have arrived from people trying to pawn them. His goal remains the same as in the 2nd film, regain his fortune and glory via sending the round up gang to Tokyo. Woody recognizes the man who kidnapped him from years ago and attempt to flee the scene with forky but instead of gabby…they run into two old nemesis…the strawberry smelling Losto and the Stinky Pete. The two main antagonist from the last films would come together as one and have an army of dummies. Their goal is to kidnap woody and the rest of the gang and send them off to Tokyo. It would be a much darker story where the gang work together as a Family as mentioned in your video to save each other.

@abstraction6212

2 жыл бұрын

I woulda prefered the toys to come alive then beat up Al, then he'll have a side Phillips moment

@KopperNeoman

2 жыл бұрын

@Abstraction Even better: Al now knows that toys are alive. (Security tapes in the toy barn) Then he can work with Pete and Lotso - and the gang need Sid's help to resolve the crisis. After all, he was never evil. At worst, he vandalised his sister's dolly.

@ThelegoLord

2 жыл бұрын

@@KopperNeoman ahh yess a redemption arc for Sid! Lol that’d be an amazing plot

This series is a better movie than Toy Story 4.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

Even though 9/11 movie looks better but tragic. Still I can’t wait to receive it

@thelibyanplzcomeback

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 What 9/11 movie? Did you comment on the wrong thing?

@oranjaglad8648

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 Seriously, WHAT?!

The reason Toy Story 4 is as it is, is because Cooley and his ilk are nihilistic narcissists who love to destroy things that people love because they're miserable people who have no meaning in their life and hate things that help people find their meaning.

@notcardlinsytaccount1355

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@lttddnulph98

2 жыл бұрын

Did they direct something else like this?

@KyleEvra

2 жыл бұрын

Okay??? Don't attack the director. I agree he doesn't understand Toy Story movies but don't attack him.

@shadekerensky3691

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleEvra It's not an attack, it's an observation made from watching directors like Cooley take beloved franchises and run them into the ground by ruining beloved characters, factions, etc. in similar ways to how Cooley ruined Woody.

@lttddnulph98

2 жыл бұрын

@@KyleEvra I never said to attack him (and I agree, it’s a fucking movie there’s no reason to attack someone over it) I was just wondering what else he directed

Listening to the commentary throughout this series made me feel seriously insulted, and this is coming from someone who's not a Toy Story fan, by any means, but as someone who respects the art of storytelling. They're literally revelling in their stupid, braindead, universe-breaking decisions, laughing about them and making light of them because they're so confident that no one will call them out on their complete incompetence and sheer, fucking hubris. And the worst part is? They were proven completely right. The movie was praised universally, made $1 billion worldwide and won a fucking Oscar. All their cheap tricks worked, their attempts to emotionally manipulate the audience worked, the bright colours and shameless nostalgia key jangling worked. And that honestly might depress me more than how completely abysmal and appalling this piece of shit movie ended up being. This series wasn't, though. Exceptional work throughout.

@ErasersRoq

Жыл бұрын

Yep, this movie was just another product of modern-day Hollywood: blatant disrespect for source material, Mary Sue characters getting the spotlight while the male characters get dumbed down, and nostalgia pandering and fancy spectacle to keep the audience distracted and consuming. And of course this garbage still makes hundreds of millions at the box office.

@gAm3r_GuRl984

Жыл бұрын

Toy story 4 is the perfect example of what not to do

I would love for you to tear apart Wreck-it-Ralph 2 (and The Incredibles 2) like you tore apart this movie

@isavenewspapers8890

Жыл бұрын

Soon.

@josephdavis9234

Жыл бұрын

Wish gran.

Andy: Oh! Hi Bonnie. Say, how's Woody doing? Bonnie: Oh! Yeah... Woody. You see um I maybe possibly lost him... sorry. Andy: ...WhAt?!

@dragonoverdrive6859

Жыл бұрын

It's time to go on a roadtrip

@becdoesyoutube

Жыл бұрын

The worst ending: Andy: Oh! Hi Bonnie. Say, how's Woody doing? Bonnie: Oh! Yeah... Woody. You see um I maybe possibly lost him... sorry. Andy: Hey it's alright, so anyway how are other things? Bonnie: Oh you know, same old same old.

In case anyone's still wondering about the meaning of the fireworks during the ferris wheel scene, they're not just there for dramatic effect. They're actually ANOTHER example of contrivance! If you look at the people in the seats on the ferris wheel, you'll see that a lot of them point in the direction of the fireworks. It's all so that Duke can have a distraction to keep those people from looking at him.

@korrblank1361

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think necessarily that’s true.

@KopsiDayzee22

Жыл бұрын

@K or R Blank Whether it is or not, that still shouldn't stop the people down on the ground from seeing him. By the way, why do you disagree, if I may ask?

@korrblank1361

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@KopsiDayzee22well it realistically doesn’t.

I stumbled upon this series of videos recently by sheer luck (how ironic in context of the movie). And I brushed off Toy Story 4 as weird and unnecessary, back when I first saw it in theatres. Now I see that this movie had much bigger problems than what I remembered. I can usually forgive tiny inconsistencies and weird plot points (even in previous TS movies), if at least the bigger picture is somewhat interesting and thoughtful. But now I see that this movie failed even at that. This discussion was incredibly insightful and very well done! Dude, no joke, you’ve actually inspired me now to look more into directors’ commentaries for the past TS movies, to research Pixar’s history and even to start writing my own fan-script/reimagination of this movie. Genuinely, thank you for making these videos!!!

It seems nowadays in media you can make any villain sympathetic by giving them a tragic backstory

When I saw this whilst working at a cinema, I initially wrote it off as "Uncessesary, but okay I guess" But then I couldn't get it out of my head for weeks, I thought about it over and over and I realised, it was a fucking awful film that shatters TS1-3's development. Not just for Woody, Buzz and Jessie, but for every single character in the film, even those that were introduced in the PREVIOUS FILM. EVERYONE in this film is NOT the characters they once were and yet we're being told that they've ALWAYS been like this. I hate what this film has done to TS

@DarkEmissary617

Жыл бұрын

Tell me about like remember in Toy Story 2 when Woody was saving Weezy? Rex says don't do it Woody we love you! Now he abandoned everyone he knows and loves.

@ShadowKamehameha32

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkEmissary617 For the sake of someone who he hasn't seen in over 10 years and ks very clearly NOT the same person she was back then. I'm not saying people can't change over that period of time, of course they can, but thier core characteristics always remain. THIS Bo is not the same Bo from TS1 and TS2 in anyway except core design, and even THAT was changed, case in point her dress. Stiff and porcelin in the first 2 films, suddenly loose fabric in this one...

@DarkEmissary617

Жыл бұрын

Oh I agree with you and I am just baffled by how much was changed. Sorry for any misunderstanding from my reply and I do see what you are saying.

Also you know it’s bad when the Disney Direct To DVD sequels are more consistent and a tad more faithful to they’re previous films in terms of continuity than this movie will ever be.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

2 жыл бұрын

Animations fans hold at least 2 direct to video sequels as worthy additions: The Lion King 2 and Aladdin 3: King Of Thieves

@Attmay

Жыл бұрын

That’s depressing. I was hoping that was rock bottom, but like the seven dwarfs in a diamond mine, they just kept digging.

Thanks so much for this series. I was getting irritated at all the fangirls/boys handwaving away all these issues with Toy Story 4, or trying to justify them with "but it was established that Bonnie was bored of Woody!" That's not established just because she didn't play for him for 3 days. Especially since he was the only toy besides Forky shown being played with on the road trip. Also Woody was okay with Andy not playing with him for years "But Woody can't stand not being #1!" That was a character flaw addressed and overcome in the first film; this film just rehashes already complete character arcs. "But Woody was already about to leave with Bo earlier, it makes sense he leaves with her at the end!" That's some nonsense this director pulled out of his @55 for this one film in order to pretend that Woody leaving is at all within character. At no point before this film was it established that Woody loved Bo more than his kid or Buzz or the rest of his family in general At no point before this film did Woody seem to feel weighed down by his kid; his kid and Buzz and his family was always shown as being the most joy he got out of life. Now suddenly it's supposed to make sense that "oh no, he always *truly* wanted to be a lost toy!!"

Hearing you almost about to break into tears makes me feel the same way. I didn't feel as emotionally attached in the og trilogy, but I knew they were a big part of my childhood and this film killed it.

The writers of game of thrones are watching this movie and going: “well at least we didn’t fuck up that badly”

@becdoesyoutube

2 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference.

@Red_Beard2798

2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty even, really. Character assassinations, ridiculous, inexplicable coincidences, poor decision making by characters who have *never* faltered in similar scenarios

Good analysis on why this didn't work. I was bummed out when Klaus lost to this, but the oscars opinions suck anyway.

@J_The_J

Жыл бұрын

the oscars have ass taste in movies

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that traditionally animated films almost always lose to the CG ones. They don't call the Best Animated Feature Oscar "the Pixar Award" for nothing. The Oscars are so stupid and political (and really, all major media awards today.)

@hunterolaughlin

Жыл бұрын

@@hotwax9376 Ikr? It’s sad that the only 2 non computer animated films to win Best Animated Feature are Spirited Away and Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit. I swear the members of the Academy that chose the Best Animated Feature winners during the early and mid 2000s seem like different people from the current members.

@hotwax9376

Жыл бұрын

@@hunterolaughlin They kinda were, but the one thing that hasn't changed is that they almost always pick a Pixar film (and to a lesser extent, DreamWorks) to win that award. They're much more woke today, but that's the only appreciable difference. Likewise, film critics have always been in the tank for Pixar, giving them nothing but breathless praise even when their films are objectively awful (like this one.) I personally don't especially like any Pixar film besides the first three Toy Story films, but that's another rabbit hole. When I was in college, I took an introductory theatre class to fulfill my humanities requirements, and one of the things I remember the instructor in that class telling us is that audiences can and should judge a work independently of what professional critics and reviewers think. Unfortunately, I think we've lost that, or at the very least the audience's opinions are beginning to converge with the reviewers' and critics' too much.

The Toy Story original trilogy is structured exactly like the Star Wars original trilogy; Toy Story 1 = A New Hope: A film that has gained legendary status in the filmmaking industry and even though it’s not the best film in the trilogy and had much to improve on it’s still recognized as a massive milestone in film history. Toy Story 2 = The Empire Strikes Back: Commonly considered to be the best film of the trilogy with it’s massive improvements from the first film in both visuals and storytelling. Toy Story 3 = Return of The Jedi: a noteworthy and strong conclusion to the trilogy that is not only better than the first film but it’s also debated by fans whether or not the third film is better than the second film.

@unstrungbeauty7208

2 жыл бұрын

Toy Story 4 = The Last Jedi + The Rise of Skywalker that screwed up the main loved characters and made Bo Peep unlikeable.

@zeldacereza

2 жыл бұрын

@@unstrungbeauty7208 legit, its almost uncanny. I think disney hates good writing and consistency at this point.

@becdoesyoutube

2 жыл бұрын

@@zeldacereza Yeah, they're banking on nostalgia as of late. Cuz the more it reminds you of its past, the more people will buy! They think mainstream audiences nowadays are just mindless chickens or turkeys that eat it up like idiots without a care in the world. Schaffrillas was right. Disney doesn't have to try anymore.

@Thomasmemoryscentral

Жыл бұрын

@@becdoesyoutube Nostalgia still needs to be done right and you need to be careful or else your fan service turns into fan pandering

@becdoesyoutube

Жыл бұрын

@@Thomasmemoryscentral Yeah, IMO Cars 3 is an example of nostalgia being done right IMO.

So Woody isn’t being played with anymore? Well! Lucky that BONNIE’S MOTHER is working at a kindergarten with DONATED TOYS.

Cant imagine how heartbroken and guilty Bonnie would feel when she finds out she lost Woody. Andy PERSONALLY handed a toy that he clearly told Bonnie how much Woody meant in his life, only to lose it. It was also established that Andy seems close to the Bonnie and her parents so he could possibly visit them, and Andy would've been distraught to learn that SHE LOST WOODY.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

So would I because Woody has been with me and my sister (his original owner) and Woody told me “I’ll never give up on your sister NO MATTER WHAT, darn thing!” I was so pleased when Woody still confessed his love to her

I'm telling you, Bonnie's parents _HAVE_ to be on drugs.

This video series was glorious, and one thing I wanna mention is how happy I am that you didn’t pin Toy Story 4 being bad on Bonnie’s actions. There are too many Toy Story fans who watched this movie and blamed Bonnie for everything that happened because she “neglected” Woody. First of all, she’s 5 and children have short attention spans. Second of all, her not playing with Woody for THREE days is far from the end of the world. Third of all, she is not in this movie nearly enough to even be remotely blamed for the bs that transpired. Finally, Woody’s final decision, as OOC and a complete character assassination as it is, was entirely his own and Bonnie can’t be blamed for that. Even if she was “neglecting” Woody, she doesn’t know toys are alive and have feelings. She like everyone else in this world (except for Sid who’s scarred for life) believe toys are inanimate objects to play with at will. This movie was terrible and it wrecked an almost perfect franchise, but it wasn’t because of Bonnie.

@nicolelawless9942

Жыл бұрын

I remember holding Toy Story 4 thinking “I want to damage this THING!” I put it down with knife in hand until I heard “No don’t!” I turned around and it was Woody who said that

I remember seeing this in theaters for the first time and when Woody just up and left Bonnie to become a lost toy I was so confused and oddly hurt. "Woody would never do that," I said to both myself and my family who were with me at the time.They all seemed to be fine with the ending and liked the movie, but I never really regarded it as canon because of the ending alone. Even if Bonnie never ended up playing with him again in her whole life, he would never leave. It's just like the third movie when he thought he was going to spend the rest of his life in the attic, and he was okay with that because that was where Andy needed him to be. He would never in a million years ditch his kid. Ever. I honestly can't believe my mom (who really likes the toy story movies and remembers seeing each one in theaters) was okay with the ending. Seems like I was the only one upset about it... oh well, at least I have several hours worth of some guy on the internet ranting about it to satiate me.

@isavenewspapers8890

Жыл бұрын

No, Andy was planning to take Woody to college. Even if that wasn’t the case, it seems kind of strange for him to assume that he would meet his end in the attic before ever leaving again. Remember, he’s a toy, not a human. He wouldn’t die of natural causes; something would need to actively destroy him in order for him to die. It seems much more likely that someone would take him out at some point. Not to mention that he could just, you know, get up and leave if ever necessary.

@Haunted_Plush

Жыл бұрын

@@isavenewspapers8890 by "life" I mostly meant a long long long time, probably until Andy had kids of his own, if he ever did. And I think that's beside the point, which was that he was willing to sit in the attic for decades until Andy needed him to be somewhere else.

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

My Woody will never leave me or my sister no matter WHAT. He told me that Woody still loves my sister even though she forgot about him. I love you so much Woody

I feel like if you don't say "Who wrote this!? This game is full of baloney!" even once during the Apollo Justice breakdown; I'll be slightly disappointed.

@AvertAT

2 жыл бұрын

Or the classic “WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE SCRIPT!?”

@J_The_J

Жыл бұрын

or the "BUZZ OFF YOU GARBAGE GAME!"

@PokeTube

Жыл бұрын

Who wrote this? Shu Takumi, the same person who wrote the trilogy. The entire game was written by him to be broken just so he could spite CAPCOM for forcing him to take the game into a direction he didn’t want it to be.

As someone who also had his life impacted by the toy story trilogy as well,seeing woody's character destroyed in this movie,disguised me. This was both a character and series that meant so much to me and the writers just went and destroyed it(and the fact that they're straight up LIARS,LIKE THEY SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO"MESS IT UP"BUT THEY ACTUALLY DID?! ON WHAT DRUGS WERE THESE WRITTERS WHEN THEY WROTE THIS MOVIE?) .....This is another situation where I want to pretend that this movie doesn't exist at all. For me,toy story ended at toy story 3 and 4,NEVER EXISTED! Thank you so much for making this critique of this movie and for helping me realize that this movie is even WORSE,then I thought when I first watched it.

i legit cry on the end of the third movie. that was the perfect end of the toy story franchise.

I know this is random, but you actually made an excellent point about the baseball being rolled to alert the girl to Gabby. Because if Gabby had used the pull-string and Woody had witnessed it, and felt like he had helped that happen, then it would've at least given a little more reason for his sacrifice. I think the whole 'breaking self for sob-story' thing was pretty stupid regardless, but at LEAST that would've brought it full circle slightly.

26:56 Glad that I’m not the only one, I hoped that I wasn’t the only one that felt offended that Woody just Abandoned her without caring. This scene is the one scene that I don’t like but because it’s goes against woody’s character.

Something else that the Toy Story trilogy taught me is that, it's okay to be sentimental and even grateful towards your toys. Outside of me being young and watching the first 2 movies and trying to catch my toys moving by leaving the room and pooping back in, it's the sentimental thing that always stuck with me. Especially in Toy Story 3. Toy Story 3 came out when I was 12, so me playing with toys wasn't weird yet, but it was getting there. Especially since I was in middle school. But then I watched it again in highschool (late teens) and the part where Andy instinctively pulled back Woody when Bonnie reached for him, stuck with me. That, that was _his_ toy. _His_ buddy. And the way Andy talked about Woody, like he was alive, got to me too. I've had a stuffed animal since I was a kid. And when talking about her, I always have to remember to refer to her as an it. Because obviously, she isn't alive. She's not a real person. But Andy's speech showed that it was okay to be attached to your childhood toy. He didn't just do the speech for Bonnie's sake. He was truly thanking Woody like his toy could understand him. Of course we, the audience, know that Woody is alive and has feelings, but Andy doesn't. And he speaks to him lovingly all the same. Like he was a dear friend. Because he was and that how Andy sees him. A cherished decade long friend. My stuffed animal got me through some pretty hard times. Through thick and thin. Through infinity and beyond. And it was Toy Story 3 of all things that made me not being embarrassed about being grateful. About feeling the way I do towards her. And it's funny that despite me still being embarrassed that my buddy has a place on my bed, when I visit my other 2 sister's apartments what do I see? Both their childhood toys still chilling proudly out in the open. Not only did that help quell (some) embarrassment but invoked the thought that maybe, one day, I can pass my toy along to the next kid who needs her the way I did. I'm grown now. She's done her job. .....and then Toy Story 4 came out and showed that your most prized possession can be so carelessly disregard and it's better off you keep it forever because they'll become trash. And how the hell did we go from "it's okay that you love your toys and they helped shaped you to who you are," to "yeah, whatever. Throw them away. They're better off lost if you don't play with them. It means you don't love them."

Seeing the critics and audience scores on Rotten Tomatoes breaks my heart. It just shows that yes, people are stupid, don't think critically and will gladly eat shit and love their dangling keys. That yes, you can make trash and enjoy massive success. "Think of how stupid the average person is, then realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

The ending is just the worst way to end Toy Story, when it was never needed, since Toy Story 3 should have been the ACTUAL ENDING to the franchise, BUT NO, the PIXAR team pretty much made a half-assed, half-baked Toy Story sequel just so Woody can abandon his toy family and Bonnie just so he can be with Bo Peep who was totally written just to be a Mary Sue and I HATE Mary Sues. I am so glad I watched this once and never planned on getting the Blu-Ray release. Just stick to Toy Story 1-3 and the Toy Story specials/shorts and they are much better than this TRAVESTY! Josh Cooley you don't deserve to direct another movie, and think what your superiors John Lasseter, Pete Docter and Lee Unkrich would have said about this movie and it's dreadful ending and I have a doubt that if they were still fully competent they would condemn you for ruining the franchise and destroying the beloved characters. Cooley you also DID NOT deserve that Oscar. That Oscar should have gone to How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World since that film cared about it's characters and story more than your manipulative madness....with...this...movie. I... hope... your...proud...of...yourself. I'm glad I watched this series since you had more common sense and higher levels of knowledge and wisdom to properly understand the Toy Story series and this movie was the first time that I hated something from Toy Story. Not even Cars 2 or The Good Dinosaur sucked this badly. And shame on you Oscars 2020 for selecting this movie and giving the Oscar statue for this train wreck. I'm so glad that Onward, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red were better films than Toy Story 4. I just hope they have not lost their element and I pray that Lightyear would be the better spinoff film to Toy Story. 2019 was a terrible year for Disney as they made live-action remakes of The Lion King, Aladdin, Lady and the Tramp, Dumbo, the sequel to Maleficent, this, another terrible sequel Frozen 2, plus the ending of Star vs. the Forces of Evil, the feminist woke agenda that was Captain Marvel and allowing to finally merge 20th Century Fox, with also mentioning they sunk Star Wars with The Rise of Skywalker. Though I admit I did like Avengers: Endgame (only the ending) and The Mandalorian which were at least a little more competent than this, which is just my opinion. Anyway, thank you Gamingmagic13 for making this series and I'm sure it nearly broke you and that you went over what was wrong with Toy Story 4, the one Toy Story no one needed enough though it was rumored for a while and it took nearly a whole decade to get released, and I was disappointed. Not that PIXAR can turn in bad films but they are usually are much better than this shit. But of course I'm mad at the writers (which one of them was actress Rashida Jones who is funnier than you give her credit for) and director Josh Cooley for fucking up the Toy Story continuity and ruining what is described as a poor excuse to continue on a franchise which was better off ending with the third one. Toy Story 3 is my favorite of the bunch and it had an ending that made me cry. This movie's ending made me cringe and angry. Josh is considered villainous for lying to the Toy Story fans that he loved and understood the characters and past films. He reminds me of Rian Johnson, J.J. Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy and all of LucasFilm not giving a shit about making Star Wars sequels be fun and new when they kill off characters and make such stupid horrible decisions and the same thing happened to Toy Story 4 with Cooley and the gang. This is just pathetic and disgusting and I hope Toy Story stays dead and not make another movie aside from Lightyear as the real space ranger or another spin-off film with Woody as a human sheriff. Goodbye Toy Story 4, give up your badge, you're done.

@WalterUnglaub

Жыл бұрын

I agree with nearly this entire post, though just having seen Lightyear, it is a truly awful movie. The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command movie and TV show are *far* superior - not just in the writing, comedy, character, and world-building department, but in nailing Buzz Lightyear's character.

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

Dumping the toys in the incinerator in Toy Story 3 would have been a better ending.

@diggerfan9319

Жыл бұрын

@@piperian3962 Maybe from a villain's standpoint.

@KyleEvra

Жыл бұрын

I feel this movie made people hate Bo Peep more... 😞 When it's not her fault but the shitty writer's taking a shat on her character molding her to fit their new shitty "Oc" meaning "Original Character" Original true Bo Peep wouldn't have such a emotionally abusive personality like this.

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

@@diggerfan9319 from anyone’s standpoint!

That was really really good Really good job going into every frame and throwing this film into a blender that then got rolled over by a steamroller before being thrown into a volcano Can’t wait for the rest of your analysis videos

I saw this film after some hesitance, because 3 ended perfectly. Beautifully. This just.... felt off. I've just sat through all of this series and you hit all the nails on the head what was wrong. I'm disabled. I was supposed to be happy at the kid with the cochlear implant (Can't even remember if that's THIS film or the previous one now?? Either way, I don't use a cochlear so it wasn't relatable and I'm sorry I'm impatient for someone HoH from birth with an ACTUAL hearing-aid! ~glares at AntMan~) ----- and I hate how 'Annabelle' was rewarded with her fix while leaving Woody disabled - Whether by switching the voice boxes or leaving him without one???? I literally went "HAHA" when Harmony just threw her back. Good riddance-Oh FFS! If I did what she did I'd deserve that rejection, and I get treated like that WITHOUT being a villain! And like you said! Woody abandons the morals he set up for 50+ years FOR A GIRL THAT NOW OPENLY ABUSES HIM?? Nevermind the whole Buzz character moider they did! COMMANDER BUZZ LIGHTYEAR reduced to... Sonic Boom Knuckles. Big Dumb SpaceFace. WHY?? Why did this film get approved?? Why did it have this horrible ending?? Why did Buzz's face clip into his suit when he was kicked WITH THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE NOW??

@nicolelawless3199

Жыл бұрын

I have really bad emotional health issues and I can’t go anywhere without my beloved Woody close by because he cures my freaking stress

@Roadent1241

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless3199 And that's perfectly fine, I'm glad he helps.

@nicolelawless9942

Жыл бұрын

@@Roadent1241 He’s been alive more since the Queen’s death. I hate to see Woody still suffer the abandonment trauma from my sister and I don’t blame him! Woody even thanked me for saving him 5 years ago. He’s had hell of a traumatising time

@Roadent1241

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolelawless9942 Aww, bless. I hope you're still doing OK.

Great series of videos bro. I made a review for this movie the week it came out and I was saying a lot of these things and I actually got quite a lot of backlash for it. A lot of people at the time were drooling over this awful movie and ignoring all of its flaws. It destroys and belittles every single legacy character and ruins the 3rd movie which had the perfect ending for the franchise. Great video and God Bless you.

I think there's one aspect that this review missed out on that I noted pretty prominently when watching the film, even for the first time when I saw it in the cinema in 2019, and that was how the whole ethos of the film runs counter to the core of the franchise. Background: I'd watched TLM2 earlier in the year, and (if the PFP didn't make it obvious) I absolutely adored it, from its character writing to its use of visual and audio, to its layered themes, and this last point was done really well by it. The crux of the LEGO Movie franchise is that the stories in the LEGO world are extensions of the thoughts and emotions of the people who control them, so LEGO is like a canvas for imagination as it were (which is why I feel TLBM is the black sheep of them in that regard but that's irrelevant here). TLM1 definitely had this idea, where the idea of the rebels defying a tyrannical executive overlord stemmed from his father stifling creative play and preferring to just have the stuff as permanently stuck displays. It was one-sided, but it was very intentional. Part of TLM2's genius was expanding on this to factor in blended play between Finn and his sister Bianca, where the story goes from being his story alone to weaving through the feelings of both confronting the idea of playing together, to the point it eventually merges together as they finally see eye to eye. The Toy Story franchise doesn't run off the exact same ethos as the LEGO Movie, but it does have it's own broader theme that underpins the franchise; "what if a kid's toys came to life when they weren't playing with them?" Essentially, a kid could imagine that these were adventures their toys took part in without them knowing. The themes and ideologies represented in the first three films feed back to this; playing with and supporting their kids is their entire purpose, anything other than playing with a kid is presented as not being as worthwhile than having a single child that cares for them (not dissimilar to how the Man Upstairs' attitude towards LEGO is treated), and only rarely are there moments where things blur the line, but still have reasonable purpose for supporting this central conceit. It leaves it to the audience to decide whether the toys are truly sentient or whether this is a projection of how Andy sees these events in his life and what lessons he takes from them. Toy Story 4 completely ignores this and instead just treats them as straight up sentient toys with no attempt to make it seem like this could be from Bonnie's perspective. The idea of there being a lost toy lifestyle makes some sense if it was just a world where toys can just do all this, but in reality there is no future for a lost toy. It can't move, it can't do anything, the only thing that would happen to a lost toy would be to be broken or rot away without someone as its owner. That's why to me it felt so out of sync compared to the other three films. Aside from that, this was a pretty good review, even if I didn't 100% agree. This all being said, still preferred it over Frozen 2 lol

@eatatjoes6751

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. The original trilogy and the shorts clearly had like, the backdoor question of "Are they *really* alive?" and left it to an interpretation, but this film is all *SENTINENT TOYS ARE REAL.*