Guys should be wearing safety eye protection with those wire wheels. I had a wire go into my eye a few years back. Didn't know till several months later. Thankfully it wasn't in my line of sight, but to side. No damage thankfully! Always wear eye protection when doing any grinding or sanding. Looked really good afterwards though.

@hanshoogendyk2203

2 жыл бұрын

Well it does do damage your eyes swim in saline (salt) and such any kind of steel will rust almost instantly, I had the same problem occur, ( and I "was" wearing glasses) had an eye specialist pull out the embedded wire 2 days of pain later 35 years later the rust mark is still there, just off my line of sight

@XloMotion

2 жыл бұрын

Thought the same thing. Its all fun and game until you have to see an eye doctor so he could pull the rust particle off the eye. 5 visits and plenty of antibiotics later I bought 3 safety glasses to have around the house and the garage.

@lisafrank4860

2 жыл бұрын

I've had a small piece of wood fall off my hair in the shower into my eye and embed into my eyelid. It only hurt when I closed my eye but I went to the ER because I thought it was metal since I was working with the wire brush. I've scratched my cornea before and didn't want it to happen again.

@oldsalt8011

2 жыл бұрын

Damn, yea not very bright doing that kind of work with no eye protection.

@334trax2

2 жыл бұрын

Safety goggles because I was wearing safety glasses and a piece of wire got in my eye.

People love the finish product but hate the work put into it.nice job

@666dynomax

Жыл бұрын

yah for 6 months. waste of time, and probably did more harm that good in the long run. sorry to burst the bubble.

The rubberized undercoating traps moisture and rust. No matter how well you try to remove rust, there will always be little nicks in the nooks and cranny's you can't get to. When you spray rubberized coating over those spots, they trap moisture and are never allowed to dry. It's like a greenhouse for rust. So it rusts faster than normal, and worse, you don't see it because it's hidden by the black shiny undercoating. So your frame might be almost rotten trough, without being able to see it. The only time rubberized undercoating could be used successfully is on a brand brand new car that just rolled from the factory with the guarantee there is no rust in there, but I think the best thing is just to stay away from this stuff. Use a paint that reacts with rust and converts it, like the european Hammerite from AzkoNobel. Or lanolin based coatings, like fluid film. PS: Use eye protection instead of a mask when using a wire wheel. Trust me, getting a steel wire in your eye is a lot worse than breathing in a little dust.

@vongsakra253919

Жыл бұрын

For me, as cracked car paint noticeable, I clean it with WD 40 and put same color sticker on it.

@TheCaperfish

Жыл бұрын

spot on with rubberized undercoating advice , don't use it period , ya when he was wire wheeling like 3 inches from his eyes with no protection I said that guy is stupid out loud , lol

@seashackf1

Жыл бұрын

Great info, Completely agree. To those that read but choose to Ignore this advice….you’ve been warned.

@Mark-gg6iy

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Two products have impressed me over the years. The best carbon corrosion neutralizer and protectorant would be Blue Steel (accept no substitutes). It dries hard, shiny and black. On top of that, you could go with a lead-based marine primer if you choose. However, Blue Steel is sufficient. No need to wire brush however you do not want rust flakes. The very best for new steel, with no corrosion, is a marine product with the main ingredient of super-glue (cyanoacrylates). This stuff does not come off. Silver in color. 30 years ago it cost $60 p/qrt.

@neilfink7558

Жыл бұрын

@@Mark-gg6iy Im in the NE and have a frontier showing some corrosion around the fasteners. do you think it would be a viable option to soda blast fasteners then cover them with super glue? I know it sounds crazy

Omg...water blasting in the shop... wow, i like it... good job

Love how you guys added the rusty water look to the frame..

It certainly looks clean.. I'll give it that. Let's see how it looks in a year..

@666dynomax

Жыл бұрын

going to be a scaley mess, with that rubber crap flapping off in the wind. not going to work, not going to last, lot of work for no gain. wrong product on that rust bucket.

@real100talk5

Ай бұрын

It'll be even worse than they can see because it'll be rust underneath it. People recommending this product have no clue what they're talking about.

The finished result looks amazing, I would want it on my car.

@kevinhart621

Жыл бұрын

The jeep is almost new LoL let's see what happens when it's tried on a old jeep LoL

@dreweverett

Жыл бұрын

how did you pass every other comment in here lol go for it, RIP!

@DrHumorous

2 ай бұрын

@@TheGuyOutdoors Good to know, thanks!

Good job doh bro👑🔥looks amazing

@SpirosAutomotive

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 👍

Maybe next time use larger wire wheels as the ones you are using are too small for the job . And maybe use a water based rust neutralizer before undercoating 👍

Great video man! I'm moving to Upstate NY soon from SF. I need to undercoat the truck before my lil trip.

Does it have a oily or waxy feel? Will dirt and mud clean off of it easy? Every other undercoating I have used, dirt sticks to and turns brown.

Looks Clean !!! 🤘🏼 Love it

Did you use any detergent in the water with the pressure washing?

Thank you so much for the video, very descriptive. How many spray cans did you use for the whole job?

Looks good. Worst thing you can do in the rust belt. Will trap moisture and accelerate rust.

How long does it last before it has to be re applied?

How is it holding one year later? Is the rust getting back? What would you say to those who say that rubberized paints trap water underneath? Thanks!

That looks amazing

Great Job guys. question how much can did you used for this project ?

Cosmetic only. 40 year ASE Master Mechanic from Miichigan. Did a stint at Ziebart! Ignored the real concern of rust which was inside the frame rails and other components. All this did was seal up the moisture on inside surfaces to accelerate the rust. Good for a pretty quick sale, bad for longevity.

rubberized undercoating will let your frame rot underneath of it. Trust me.. Go for Fluid Film or Cosmoline.

@zell863

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly two names that I'm going with after 10 years of experimenting - fluid film and cosmoline. And yeah this dude in video have not idea about rust proofing.

@buzuxi

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah those are great products. I'm looking to use Gibbs brand oil first as it's a strong penetrant, and creeps well. Then I'm going to use the few bottles of Amsoils cosmoline spray I have laying around as a final coat over it.

@RookieGarage

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he just ruined the jeeps frame

@tripleseven8361

2 жыл бұрын

Yup…Or Corrosion Free/ Formula 3000

@alanaparrett1705

2 жыл бұрын

Does it have the same look afterwards? I recall using Fluid Film as a rust proofer, what if you wanted a black finished look afterwards? Any recommendations?

Turned out great

Boy these projects would be a lot easier if I had a lift. Laying on my back with a power washer sucks. If you get your truck undercoated at a shop do they do any prep work?

Nice! I'll have to do this to my 70 monte carlo. Luckily the car has 58,000 miles and there's no rust on it so this would be a nice way to keep it safe

Nice, did any of the overspray go to the body?

Did you to the drive shaft and the coupler to the axel?

How many cans did you use roughly? And how many coats did you lay down? Lastly is primer needed in any of this

Great video - I like the detailed steps! I would like to know how long the Rust-Oleum Professional Grade Rubberized Undercoating spray will last? Do you need to re-apply each year, or will it last for several years?

looks amazing

@SpirosAutomotive

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🤙

Looks awesome.... Thank you I'm trying that product on my trucks

@grimakastatik

Жыл бұрын

Don't.

BEAUTIFUL!

Looks awesome! Def did a good job 😎👍

Can I paint over my existing factory coating if it’s not that bad but could use a touch up??

It took me 4 weeks to do my 05 f150. I removed the 8' bed, drop the tank. Cleaned the frame inside and out... Replaced parts of the frame that were rusting out with a frame repair kit from Pocono metals. Coated everything inside and out with wool Wax Black. Every fall I apply another coat of woolwax black. It's been 5 years now with no new rust. Did my wife's 04 trailblazer 10 years ago with Eastwood's internal frame coating (4 coats). Did the outside of the frame with Rust-Oleum rust reformer and three coats of rustoleum rusty metal primer over the top of that with three coats of rustoleum professional black paint. And the trailblazer is rusting apart but the F-150 has no new rust. What you doing is a waste of time. And money.

@dink8898

2 жыл бұрын

Did you grind off any existing rust to bare metal then apply wool wax or add some sort of rust stopper to it?

@joelung9070

2 жыл бұрын

@@dink8898 I removed as much as I could. Wire wheel in a grinder. Wire wheels on a drill. Putty knives scrapers. Etc... Filled a 5 gallon bucket 2/3 of the way with rust after I swept the floor. On an 05 f150 there was no way to get all the metal down to bear. There was some shiny metal in between the rust here and there. It took on and off about 2 weeks... That's because of work. I did not use any pretreat like Rust-Oleum Rust reformer. Blew everything clean with a leaf blower, compressor and even a hand broom. Got as much dust off as I could. Then just to soak it what wool wax.... In the framing & out

@dink8898

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelung9070 Wow thanks for the quick response back. I am going to be doing to be doing the same thing like you did on my expedition but didn’t know whether to add anything on it before I applied wool wax on it or not

@gatergates8813

Жыл бұрын

​@Joe Lung I've spent the past 4 days underneath my 01 Ranger with a similar assortment of tools scraping rust- no air compressor but you gave me a good idea with the leafblower

I've heard that rubberized coating will cause the frame to rust underneath it or is not removing the rust or using a rust reformer the issue?

Never thought about it much ,but I would think most of the damage would be going on inside the frame where the salt accumulates. It does look nice.

@AKL89

6 ай бұрын

No, the outside will rust faster than inside. Inside is usually coated with oil/wax to prevent rust. I had a rusty mercedes....

@kenj.8897

2 ай бұрын

​@@AKL89wrong

Good work guys!!

@SpirosAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jay

Great video

Would it hold moisture underneath the coating and develop rust

This is amazing!!! Now where can I rent a lift? 😂😂😂

Is there anything you found you could not or would not spray ray while undercoating

Would using a sand blaster with the power washer be a bad idea if you are carefull?

What about the parts you can't see, like the other side of the skid plates 😂

Is that an air angle grinder?? If so what one and what disc are you using??

It looks nice on the surface. But what about all the frame and body holes? prevent it from rusting from the inside out.

@valdius85

2 жыл бұрын

Some people wax them inside. There is special procedure and products for that. People also wax inside their doors etc.

@YT-User1013

Жыл бұрын

Nothing and it WILL rust from the inside out. He only did half the job.

@vermili0n

Жыл бұрын

Either way this “rust proofing” he did isn’t rust proofing anything. He just sealed the rust underneath that paint which makes it worse… it will rust faster now

@rafars2246

Жыл бұрын

@@YT-User1013 not really

I tried this product on my truck frame and it came out perfect. Thank you!

@JoseCruz-qf6ui

3 жыл бұрын

How has it been?

@DJR5280

2 жыл бұрын

@Owen Zahradka Why do you say that ?

@QuantumMuch

2 жыл бұрын

Madtv how does it look now?

@a1inMil-Experience

10 ай бұрын

how does it look now? any rusting visible now. Please enlighten us. Thanks in advance

Excelentt job

@SpirosAutomotive

6 ай бұрын

thank you!

How long does the undercoating last ?

Great job!

Glad to see you sanded it down. BIG job and, of course, you can never get it all without stripping the jeep down to the frame - and then the interior of the frame would still be vulnerable. Nice job though. It will last a lot longer than it would have otherwise.

@eddwinnas

Жыл бұрын

no point putting that much work in unless its a classic car your grandpa left you or a multi million dollar car.

@dylansmith697

8 ай бұрын

@@eddwinnasnot even that much work 💀 if you have a lift a quick day job and it can add that much more life to your car bozo. And if you had a million dollar car that was rusted that bad your doing something wrong

@Lokstock220

4 ай бұрын

@@dylansmith697 You're smokin' some serious shit man..

Any updates? Did Rust Come back ? Thanks great video

Taking out the inner fender would make it perfect!

looks great

A needle scaler works good on the uneven surfaces in corners around brackets etc...almost like sandblasting. The rubberized stuff doesn't hold up. It really needs a good paint coating.

@SpirosAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for that. We have incorporated needle scalers into our process now. Thank you

Cool. That little wire wheel you are using is a little different than most I've seen on an angle grinder. Looks good for getting into small places. What is that?

@jackgreen9487

Жыл бұрын

It looked like an air drill with a wire wheel on it

How did they brush top and interior side of frame ?

Nice work.

@SpirosAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

Thank you !

So that rustoleum won't deteriate the rubber bushings?

210 into it , and doing great work

How is it possible to get so much rust in such a short periode of time? I live in the Netherlands and salt is used a lot in the winter, but my 2001 Volvo does not rust at all. Is Jeep delivering cars without a proper anti rust treatment or is it just bad metal that is used?

Should've hit it with Ospho (phosphoric acid). It changes iron oxide/rust to iron phosphate, then prime & paint to seal & protect. Rubberize undercoat after if you want.

How many cans were usedfor this application? What finish did you use?

Looks great I’m from Massachusetts I want to do my tundra frame

What about INSIDE the box sections? What will be going on in there?

What was done to mitigate the rust inside the frame? If you see rust on the outside, there is likely an equivalent amount on the inside. I do think your treatment will slow the rusting process, but it will eventually rust from the inside out unless that is addressed. Did you use a borescope to check the interior of the frame?

@grimakastatik

Жыл бұрын

Even if there is rust on the inside frame how is he supposed to get to it?

@Jake_Hynds

Жыл бұрын

​@@grimakastatik they would general blow it out a bit and spray a non hardening penetrating oil inside

@NjoyMoney

8 ай бұрын

Bullshit.

I used rustolium rust reformer after cleaning my floorboards and frame sections of my wagoneer, 3-4 coats 6 years later and nothing has come back, my frame and floor was way worse as far as coverage of rust goes too. some sections were chunky, and had to be bashed with a hammer like 100 times to get the chunks off,the thin sections i cut out and welded new steel.

Wish we could get a update on this jeep how it looks after one winter

I used a leaf blower to help dry the under side...works well.

@SpirosAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

What about the exhaust muffler? Can you paint that black too???

Good info we have a F250 to do, great video,

@SpirosAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

Very nice thanks

Great job. How much would a job like this cost?

Looks great dude 😎😎

Do I have to use primer first

No glasses as you wire wheel, very smart I will give it a try.

Have you ever done a 4 door Jeep Wrangler? If so how many cans did it take for it?

Nice job! Is this spiro's in Salem? I could use this on my monte carlo.

@nabob14

2 жыл бұрын

Don't use rubberized undercoating. Use an oil or wax based undercoating (preferably oil based). Just Google "is rubberized undercoating good" and you will see why.

Nice work! How much do a two door Wrangler? I live in Beverly. I bring my Jeep to your brothers shop in Salem.

What spray you use ? I don’t fine link here

What's the name of small tool (grinder) used for removing rust?

I'm using steel-it, but wonder if its safe to spay everything under the car?

This is amazing! Im in New England as well. Where are you located I'll pay you to do mine as well

Damn this looks good. I wish I had a lift to use. I’d like to undercoat my ‘11 Tacoma. It’s a beautiful truck and a fresh cost of paint underneath would seal the deal.

@dundeeecroc

2 жыл бұрын

got rid of all 3 of my tacomas, 2007, 2012 and 2015 TRD offroad models. I am done with them, all rusted and they all had the frames from the same batch that were made by Dana Corp. Toyota dropped the ball on QUALITY.

@atvbass10

2 жыл бұрын

@@dundeeecroc luckily mine just has some minor surface rust but I have seen some pretty bad ones.

@D_Cali_Life

2 жыл бұрын

@@dundeeecroc used tacomas are selling for above $40k with 25k+miles. New ones are in the $50k-$60k range

@nabob14

2 жыл бұрын

Don't use rubberized undercoating.

How long does this stuff last

Do you have an update on this now? I know that paint and/or coatings can chip, trap moisture, and end up hiding rust.

Ωραία δουλειά Σπύρο τι σπρέι είναι αυτό που έβαλες.

Great business idea.

Great job and it looks amazing, but this is only a cosmetic temporary solution. This process only addressed the exterior surface rust...what about the rust inside the frame? There is usually more rust inside than outside.

Are you in Peabody, MA?

How much did this cost?

Cool video. Unfortunately not everyone has a vehicle lift in their garage lol I'll have to pay someone to be able to rent their car lift. And pressure wash my vehicle to prep for paint.

How often would you need to appy this?

Does anyone else think that they did a really half assed job? That frame is going to be rusted again in no time.

Nice !!

How many Cans u needed to paint all the frame ?

Nice !

How long will last this can spray... ?

Buy a spray can handle with trigger. It will save your finger, and allow more control and smoother passes.

I just did this to my '96 Dakota and '17 Wrangler, but I tore both down to the frames and had them sandblasted. I'm not taking any chances with missing spots. So many spots I found in crevices with light surface rust, but that's where it starts. A metric shit ton of work but worth it as I won't have to worry about it until I'm dead.

@jojojeep1

2 жыл бұрын

If you don’t want to take your car apart bring it somewhere for 500 bucks They’ll spray black oil filament they go inside the frame inside the doors rocker panels quarter panels everything

@banonymous6790

Жыл бұрын

How do you find someone to do the sand blasting?

Love the mask and no eye protection while sanding. LOL

@e36fanatics

2 жыл бұрын

sanding and using wire wheel without eye protection... holy shit thats pure stupidity

@Jamarkus_Delvonte

2 жыл бұрын

He is protected from an unvaccinated car. That's most important thing because the car can carry covid.

@cameronrobertson9518

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamarkus_Delvonte I'm pretty sure the mask is so he doesn't breathe metal flakes

@Jamarkus_Delvonte

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronrobertson9518 metal flakes that contain covid.

@That90sShow

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamarkus_Delvonte ahahahahahah