How to Replace Harley Twin-Cam Chain Tensioners {W/Out Special Tools!}
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
In this video, I show how to replace the twin-cam tensioners without using super special tools. I mean I do, myself on some things, but I give an alternative for everything and show how to do it. This is coming from a factory-certified HD Mechanic and I'm telling YOU to get adjustable pushrods!
The tensioner shoes I recommend
cycogasket.com/99-05.html
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This channel's potential is unlimited . Watching and understanding the work of a Pro is priceless. Thanks so much, this helps A LOT !
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Thank you for taking time to make videos. What a great help before I do it myself.
@DeathProofProductions
Күн бұрын
Thanks
'04 FLHR, ~35K miles, single owner. Been cutting the oil filter open every oil change, checking for nylon particles. However, I know it's about time to change to tensioner shoes. Usually when I watch a YooToob video, it shows the best way to NOT do something. Yours was actually... inspiring... :)) Thanks muchly for the helpful tutorial!
@DeathProofProductions
5 ай бұрын
Glade I could help.
This is by far the best how-to Harley video on KZread! Thank you!
@DeathProofProductions
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment means alot.
I have just read all the comments below and learned a lot of useful information. The best place on YT when wrenching on your HD.
@DeathProofProductions
4 ай бұрын
Did you end up getting the new damper for your clutch.
@michaelslawinski6449
4 ай бұрын
I got the BARNETT clutch pack. Primed in oil and ready for Installation.
@DeathProofProductions
4 ай бұрын
God job.
Hey man , just got done replacing my cam chain tensioners on my 03 softail, all work was done following you and your videos, and it went flawlessly!!!!! I cannot express enough gratitude to you for your time and knowledge, Thank you so much!!! I wish I lived close to you, you would get any and all of my bike work!! I was gonna send you a couple of pics of the work getting done by me, but I couldn't find a email address for you. Anyhow, so grateful for your time!!!! Stay safe and God Bless you buddy! John
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Glad to help. On my homepage some were there is the channels email but my personal email is Davethom2004flstc@gmail.com love to see those pics.
I wasn't looking forward to doing this, but now I'm feeling fine about it, maybe it's the Jack Daniels. Kidding aside, another great video.
@DeathProofProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Jack is good for elbow grease
@jonpatterson5668
9 ай бұрын
Yep, I'm a " pretty decent mechanic" and Harley has ya so scared of this I was not looking forward to it , TILL NOW
@GawgaCracka
8 ай бұрын
A service manual and Dave's top notch instructional videos, not too much a mechanically inclined person can't do on a tc..some jobs require speciality tools though.
So far your the best on you tube for bike maintenance my man ! We Ty
Thank you! Great video, helped me get back on the road with good tensioners.
Man, after watching this, im canceling my purchase of a twin cam heritage...i will keep my simple evolution 1340 thanks
Excellent video! Very well narrated so anyone can understand it. Thank You.
@DeathProofProductions
9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Love the video man. I rode for 11 years with the police department and I'm about to buy my first true bike. I'm thinking about buying a 2006 Softtail from a guy I meet recently. Another good friend of mine lives in Georgia has a 2005 Softtail and he schooled me on the fact that the tensioners had to be replaced every so often. So I'm doing my homework before I make a purchase. I was a mechanic in the Army back in the day so I think I can tackle the job. Awesome info. Music was a little loud at times but I think I made out what you was saying. Keep up the good work and videos.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip about the music were still learning. You can do it it's easy if you have trouble email me.
Hey brother, I just want to ay thank you for sharing your knowledge on this.I did have harley davidso press my cams and put the secondary tensioner.I also went with the SS quickies for my next go round. Again thank you shes up and running now.
@DeathProofProductions
9 ай бұрын
no problem, im glad your back in the wind.
So glad I found your site.
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
Thanks.
You would definitely be my trusted Harley guy if we were in the same area! You make it look easy and for you it may be. I would entrust it to a pro like yourself.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@davidkernell2443
9 ай бұрын
I guess maybe I missed the explanation but why did you have to take the cams off of the cam plate?
I’ve been turning wrenches for over 50 years primarily on cars , truck and tractors. Never had schooling just the way I was raised I guess. I really enjoy your vids there is no bullshit just facts. I just started building the latest Harley engines and in the distant past I built a few shovels and several iron head sportsters. I like how you get into the nitty gritty on the best ways to do things. Keep at it brother thanks!
@DeathProofProductions
11 ай бұрын
Thanks, really appreciate it.
20 years as a powersports tech with no HD experience. I'm learning something new. Thank you, sir. 110 ft Lbs threw me tho LOL
@DeathProofProductions
19 күн бұрын
Are you sure I said ft lbs or inch lbs and if so what bolt was I talking about. I'm traveling right now away from my computer but if I said it wrong I need to fix it as soon as i get back. If you could let me know that would be a great help. Thanks
@cidcaser944
17 күн бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions i heard inch pounds...Also, great video and thanks for sharing the knowledge👌
@terrellirma
15 күн бұрын
21:22 you corrected yourself in the video
@DeathProofProductions
12 күн бұрын
Ok thanks for checking that for me I wouldn't want people to use ft lbs.
Jus found your channel ..love the videos seem like a good man brother ...please keep videos coming subscriber for life!!!
Thanks for the video. My dad passed away recently and I just took ownership of his 2005 Ultra Classic. I also suffered a head injury that resulted in a TBI. Mine affects me more than I let on but having videos like this one help me tremendously. Thanks for the help!
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
im the same way i can hide it from people if there not around me all the time.
@perrysteed4069
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions you definitely got me gunshy to ride this thing until I check this out
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
i cant speek for your condition but for me I can still ride my ass off. and for that I thank the lord.
@perrysteed4069
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions I ride nearly every day and, while some days it hurts worse than others, a sore day on my bike is better than a comfortable day in a pickup truck
You are the man! I learned so much right here. Im filling my cart with shit I need to do this job and added the pushrods. Im not installing new cams, but I know I need to do the shoes. So Ill def be in the cam chest again at some point. Im also ordering a high pressure oil pump, so now I know I need those alignment pins you mentioned in the beggining! Thank you.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Unless you want the pump you don't need it. Watch my cam support plate video I go into depth about the oil pump and over pressure. It will let you know if you really need it.
@boxcarbro3043
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions lol saw this immediately after I ordered it. But my motivation is for cooling, sumping and blow by. Which was what the ad sold me on lol. Its not an expenvice one, but the slightly better than OEM pump. I just figured its a good upgrade, that I wont feel bad about tossing when I finally do a bore/ cam change.
Thank You for sharing your expertise and valuable time.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
anytime.
Been waiting on this. Seen a few but one more is always better just to see how others do it. Ty sir.
@DeathProofProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Anything for the people.
Appreciate the video so much, watched all the commercials! Thank you!
@DeathProofProductions
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching the commercials helps alot.
Brother very cool,info was great. I subbed. I have to do this to my wife’s 03 lowrider. Only has less than 14 thousand miles. This is her iPad I’m using it. Thanks for sharing this important process. This is the third one I’ve watched and the better one. I’m confident I can handle it now. Thank you
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Feel free to email at Davethom2004flstc@gmail.com if during the process you have any questions. More than glad to help.
i have an 02 heritage with 25k miles and sometime soon i will have to do something. i can't believe HD couldn't have come up with a little something better than plastic like maybe a roller with bearing. thnx for the info and demo.
Great video. Very informative. I am about to do this to my 03 Ultra classic.
flawless how to, thanks brother.
@DeathProofProductions
9 ай бұрын
Thanks
Great video brother. You're a kick-ass teacher 👍
@DeathProofProductions
Ай бұрын
Thank you.
Another great video! I'm going to place an order from Cyco Gaskets soon. I'll tell them you sent me. Please keep the videos coming. I'll be watching. Thanks
@DeathProofProductions
2 ай бұрын
Ten four.
Great job, I just changed my tensioners on my Kawasaki vulcan very easy compared to what you just did there, you'd think they would have a better design for tensioners they wouldn't wear out, always good to learn just in case.
Just found your channel. I have a 2K Heritage that I bought in 06 as a total and put back together. I have never checked the tensioners ( I must be really lucky) or the original owner had them replaced. This thing had 45K when I got it and I have put on at least another 20K. Going to pull the cover before the season starts this year and see what is what. I will definitely replace the tensioners. Thanks for the video!
@DeathProofProductions
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment.
this video is gold! Thank you!
Good video. Very informative. Thank you.
Nice job brother! And very well explained also! Thank you
@DeathProofProductions
6 ай бұрын
Thank you.
Thanks for shooting straight. I've never done it but now that I've seen it there's nothing to it. Mine just failed on me a few days ago at the lonestar rally. Thank you for the info. I'm ready to ride as always. 05 FLHTCSE2
I do not have a garage, they are simply not available in the city I live (in Germany). My bike is parked outside on the street under the cover so my repairs depend on the weather conditions. I had to replace the bearings and the tensioner shoes on my FXDX 2000 (Clutch replacement and service and some wiring done already). Since it has rained a lot recently I used this time and have built my own press from few pieces of fittings, wood and an old 2t - hydraulic jack. The cost of the build was under 50EUR / 50$ and it took me a couple of hours only. I have built it on the kitchen table, no special tools required, only a drill. It fits behind my wardrobe in my room because I have no garage and thus no space issues :) Having said that, I have used this press to remove the old ball bearings from the cam plate, pressing the new set in, pressing the race on the cam with no jims tools - used the old bearing to press against. Finally pressing the cam in the plate. Worked like a charm. Thank you David for your inspiration, your support, for getting the Cyco Gaskets for me from USA to Germany and all your kind suggestions and Ideas.
@DeathProofProductions
3 ай бұрын
Glad to help.
Just found this channel.. good stuff man.
@DeathProofProductions
5 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
Thanks Bro Great Video, My 02 LowRider 37K needs the tensioners. They look like the rear in the video. 20 years not bad.
@61soldiergirl
Жыл бұрын
Gary my buddies tell me to change now on my 03 lowrider and that bike only has 14 thousand miles. It’s my wife’s bike and she passed away last December. But them pieces could potentially wreck the motor. 37 thousand miles is very scary they say.
Thx I wish you were easier for the algorithm to find for me but I found it all the same cheers.
Great video. Did mine two years ago and used the shoes from Cyco Gaskets. Figured the "Stanyl polymide" shoes would have to be better than stock. Thanks for proving it. I was going to convert to hydraulic this winter, but going to stay with the springs and save that $800.00 and use it to fill up my gas tank {maybe]. Anyway I'm 71 and figure ole Double Barrel will probably outlast me. I subscribed, so keep those motion pictures coming.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the complement.
So, today was the day to open her up and see how things look. It's 2003 FLHTCI, just turned over 26K miles, I'm probably the third owner. It took nearly three hours to get the exhaust apart, including time for PBlast and WD40 to penetrate some of the rustier stuff. Three header bolts came off easily enough--always gotta have one sonofabitch in a bunch. One nut took about an hour of teasing, soaking, and wrenching. The cross over header pipe was just ornery as it could be. That was probably another thirty minutes of disconnecting sections so I could twist the pipe enough to get some pBlast at the joint and finally got'r'dun. Cam chest cover was easy to remove, once the foot pad and exhaust were removed. The outside tension pad was in much better condition than I expected but was worn down into a grove. It looks like it could probably go another 15K miles. While I didn't remove the cam plate to inspect the inside tensioner I could see that it was worn more than the outer pad and I think I see a crack developing along the side. If I had the adjustable pushrods on hand I'd have gone ahead and removed the cam plate but I just didn't want to mess with it until I have what I need to do the job. After studying all the options, for days, and seeing how everything gets nickled and dimed to death I decided to splurge on the S&S 509C kit. It wasn't cheap, about $1,685 but almost everything is there. I'm 70 years old and this probably my last bike, may as well make her as good as I can, while I can! I need a better torque wrench. What's that rig that your using? I still need to get the cam bearing remover/install kit and may get one of those timing gear jammers, as well. Hell, I'm about as excited as a 50 year old with a free Viagra, a company credit card, at a Las Vegas convention! Hope the reassembly goes a bit faster than the breakdown. It would be nice to open and close on the same day.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
It's a snap on tech wrench. It has ft lbs, inch lbs and Newton meters. I gotta say it's a good one been using it for 22 years with no issues. If the inside one is starting to crack on the edge it means it's getting bretal. The couple I have seen fail were from age not wear they get hard and then start coming apart. I also would consider getting a blind hole puller if your changing inner bearings instead of the after market puller just for those bearings. The blind hole puller has set of collets and you can use it for lots of other jobs I use a snap on CG 40 C with the bridge puller but you would be better getting the slide one to remove and install. Glad to see your staying on top of it.
@aa3nk
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks, I'm guessing that this may be similar, I don't do a lot wrenching, so much, just working on my own stuff. I started doing this sort of stuff back in the 60s and built a pretty good tool box over the decades. Then, someone broke into my garage and stole anything of value--I guess it was in 2006. Since then I bought some Harbor Freight "quality" to get by with. The HF torque wrenches are not quite up to the standard for motorcycle work but they are not too bad when working on big stuff. There are a few Snap-on torque wrench offerings on ebay in the $300/$400 range. I'm gonna need a lot more beer before I can go there. Haha, but things can happen in life!
Great video! You deserve many more subscribers. Have a 06 HD Heritage Softail Classic with 14k miles. At some point I will need to tackle this job.
@61soldiergirl
Жыл бұрын
If I were you now is the time. I have one needs done with just under 14 grand. I’m not riding that bike till I do it. They say if it breaks and pieces block oil flow can kill motor.
Thank you for this video, it helped me tremendously.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Anytime
great stuff as always!
Great video love all the tips and tricks you provided now I feel confident and doing this Job I do have a question what brand pushrods you running? Keep them vids coming great content Thanks !!!
@DeathProofProductions
2 жыл бұрын
I run s&s but I have installed every brand you can think of in customer's bikes and there all good.
Excellent hands on Video. Great job. I am now a new subscriber. Thx. 👍👍👏👏😁😁
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
On my 99' FLHRCI TC, Do I need to also change the pushrod tubes to when I install adjustable pushrods? What adjustable pushrods do you recommend?
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
You don't have to replace the tubes but it does make it easier to adjust. As far as a brand I recommend, I use s&s for almost everything I do to my bike's but that's just the brand that was biggest in the early 90's when I got in to this stuff. On customer's bikes I've installed just about every brand and I have never noticed one being better than the other. I would just find the set at the best price and slap them puppys in there.
Excellent guidance
EXCELLENT VIDEO INFO!!!! NEW SUB. ALWAYS THUMBS UP FROM THE 641...
@DeathProofProductions
9 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
Great video thanks
@DeathProofProductions
9 ай бұрын
Happy you enjoyed the vid.
Would it be better to upgraded to the S&S Cycle Complete Gear Drive 510G Camshaft Kit as opposed to replacing the tensioner it self? I was told that the tensioner goes out every 40k miles
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
If your runout on the crank is within there spec and you can afford it then it would be a good choice. I still run the shoes because I don't want to spend that kind of money on it. I have a shop so it's easy to check and replace them.
Thanks for the videos. You mention keeping the retaining plate in the groove, on my 06 I don't see a groove it appears to just go over the bearings. I had a cam starting to go bad where it goes into needle bearings so am replacing. I lost track of the direction on the lifter oil hole should i just install with the holes facing the motor?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yes that's ok. Thanks for the compliment.
great video very well explained.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Great video! I have a 2016 dyna switchback with 13000 on it. When should I be checking inside the cam cover? I think this year has hydraulic tensioners, do these last longer?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
yes those had hydraulic tensioners so you good for a long time.
New Subscriber. Thanks for the video man, it was really good and to the point, just like I like 'em! A feller can tell you have done this a couple of times! I'm having Harley do this for me right now, and upgrading to the new cam plate and hyd tensioners, as well as the new oil pump. I have a 05 Electra Glide that has the big bore kit and 211 cams with 31K on it. I just bought the bike in August. I pulled the cam cover and mine were wore over half way. Look forward to going over all your videos!! God Bless!! Quick question, do you run your bike with oil that's completely full to the mark of the stick? I am getting a fair amount of oil in the air filter housing and gonna do a filter or catch can job to stop dumping oil on the top of my piston. Any favorites for that mod? Thanks again!!
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
With that age on the bike I would be looking at a breather gasket issue or the o ring for the oil pump has gotten old an leaking by. At that age and those miles it probably has set in the garage alot. That allows the seals and gaskets to get brittle and leak by because there not getting lubrication to keep them soft. At every 5000 mile service you should only have in the intake enough oil to get your finger barley wet. Also if your plugs don't have oil fouling than the pistons have very little to. I personally have 5 twincams that have 100k+ miles on them and they have very little carbon build up on them. I'm about to make a vid replacing top end gaskets on the 08 I will show the amount of carbon on the piston. I have a vid about the subject were I go into more detail. Let me know if there's any project that you need help with and I will make video showing how. Thanks for watching
@Big88Country
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thank you!! My bike is still at the Harley shop, New River Harley Davidson. Went to pick it up Saturday, and on the 3rd check ride it stopped and would not start, stranding the mech a few miles from the shop. Waiting to hear what might have caused this. Hope it's not anything the mech forgot to do in the cam chest!! I'll take your advice and try the breather gasket before I do anything else. Thank you Sir, really appreciate what you do and sharing your knowledge!! Look forward to seeing your new video.
Great video Brother. I've done a few of these, always use Red loctite on cam & Crank bolts. But I have a question for you, what is the Reasoning behind the 15 ft lbs & backing off 360 before final torque? I do it , but would like to know your professional opinion why!! Thx again!!
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
When the twincam came out and they schooled us up about them I never thought to ask one of the guys why at the time. My thoughts on it though is to make sure that the sprockets are mated on the shafts perfectly flush so the torque sequence starts at dead zero giving the bolts the best chance at proper clamping force.
@pauld7309
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions amen brother. I was thinking the same thing. Thx for getting back with me. You Rock.
Just last night I swapped out the pads. Mine aren’t as loose on the pin as your, not sure if I over peened the pin. They still pivot, so I’m thinking there going to wear in? Otherwise all else is going as planned. Keep up the good work.
@DeathProofProductions
7 ай бұрын
Happy to see you got it done with no problems ,Your right it will loosen as it wears in.
What would you say is the typical LABOR cost for installing the camshaft plate and tensioner kit? I don't have a press or any of the special tools required to complete this job.
Love this video, Just bought my fathers 2004 Road king. I have a 2018 King but I am really enjoying riding the 04. the bike has 65000 miles on it but at 35000 miles the tensioners went out on him in Iowa and we live in PA. He didn't know where the rattling sound was coming from but he road it home. His MC mechanic kept his old tensioners for a display in his shop. The repair hit his pocket pretty hard. Since I have this bike I am ready to dive into the cam chest thanks to your video. I would really lone to purchase that tool to remove the tensioner without pressing out the cams but I cant find it anywhere...it seems like whoever makes it just stopped making them. I guessing I'm going to harbor freight to get a cheap press that I don't have room for in my garage. Hoping you know where I can find this tool.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Big twin motorcycles out of Germany might still have some in stock. Check with them and see if they ship to the states. There made in china so I'm thinking it's a supply chain issue. If you get the press you can use it for alot of other jobs and the tool is about as much as the press.
@daverichards6614
Жыл бұрын
Thanks..yes t thought I might want to switch cams out someday. I would still love that tool. I know I'm gonna be doing my neighbors and cousins bike also.
Excellent detail in this video. Do you have a video replacing cam shoes on the hydraulic tensioners? Mine is a 96 ci. What is the recommended life of the shoes?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
yes go to the channel play list and scroll down to it.
Hello, great video, can you change outter tensioner without removing pushrods?
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. Yes but you still have to remove the sprocket's
@alexanderjoseph1918
8 ай бұрын
great thanks for your mechanical expertise@@DeathProofProductions
Great video! Thanks for the info really enjoyed it. Do you have a link for the brand of tensioner pads?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
cycogasket.com/99-05.html
64 first harley thanks so much for the tips your a legend
@DeathProofProductions
24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the compliment
Отличное видео, все доступно и понятно!
I want to rebuild my tensioners (hydraulic) and primary chain tensioner shoes, where do you get them? Your video was great.
@DeathProofProductions
3 ай бұрын
In a few weeks we will have them for sale on our merch page, along with other products from cyco gaskets. If you get them there, make sure you pick up a shirt or a beer koozie to help out the channel. If you get them elsewhere, make sure they're cyco brand. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
Thanks for your response. I purchased the replacement parts. Now I have a couple questions. Will each push rod take only one cut each? What is the tightening specs for each push rod?
@DeathProofProductions
10 ай бұрын
It should take only one cut, every brand has a different thread pitch that will affect the specs for the pushrods.
Great vid!
@DeathProofProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Me and my team are glad to hear it!
I have a 2000 FLSTS and it has a cam position sensor. Can the cam chest cover be removed and just tied over out of the way to do this process? Thanks for the video. 😉👍
@DeathProofProductions
7 ай бұрын
Yes.
How much longer will the cyco pads last over oem?
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
It's hard for me to say, I can tell you that I installed them in both my dyna and my heritage back in 2018 and I have yet to wear them out and I ride a lot. Before I started using them I had to replace the Harley one's several time's.
Great video. My service manual and my cam bearing removal tool (George’s Garage but like Jim’s) say to not remove the cams any themselves and remove with the bearings or I could damage the cam plate. I noticed y left the bearings in place. Thoughts on the service manual recommendations?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
It really depends on the year of the bike. This is on my 04 and you see there is only the one cam being pressed out. 99 to I think 01 or 02 twincam engine's had ball bearings on both cams so you were pressing both cams out together and that took a lot more pressure. But harley started having warranty claims on the rear bearing going out. I had to fix several of them while I was working at the dealer. Then they went with a roller bearing on the rear cam fixed the issue. If you make sure your support plate is supported as close to the cam as possible it doesn't matter. And if yours has the both ball bearings I recommend upgrading.
@MrMedinab
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification. The one I am working on is a 2006 FLHTCUSE with the rear cam being a roller bearing and the front cam ball bearing.
@michaelslawinski6449
4 ай бұрын
Should I then upgrade the bearings for my 99 fxdx during the tensioner swap?
Great video. I subscribed to your channel. Thanks. I have a 2000 Deuce, 88CI, with about 13K miles. Would you recommend upgrading to hydraulic cam tensioners? Also, while I am in their should I upgrade the oil pump? Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks again.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
If it's in the budget going with the hydraulic isn't a bad idea. They can have failers also there just not as catastrophic. Im uploading a video this evening about that issue if you want to watch it before you by it. The screaming eagle kit comes with the high volume oil pump. Thanks for the compliment on the vid.
@randygibson7538
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks for the quick response. I'm in no rush on replacing the tensioners. I'll definitely stand by for you new video. Thanks!
What a Great video, replacing my tensioners now on 2003 softail(11,000 miles), QUESTION? Do you have to take oil pump off the cam plate? I have alll the tensioner tools not to, just want to make sure it will be ok to reinstall while on the camplate? I trust your judgment, please let me know!! Thanks , John
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
No you don't have to most of the time I don't.
@johnweary243
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the answer!!! Keep the videos comin!! Great stuff!!
Great video
@DeathProofProductions
2 ай бұрын
Thanks
Been thinking about doing a big bore kit from S&S on my 06 Night Train. Will the cam chain tensioners handle the power if I keep up with replacing the shoes with the Cyco shoes?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yes all my twin cams are heavily modified and you see I run tensioners.
Great video Can you provide the part numbers for the shoes & gasket kit you prefer please
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
These are the shoes cycogasket.com/99-05.html And this is the gasket for the cam chest www.jpcycles.com/product/433-367/genuine-james-cam-cover-gasket?PLA-Genuine%20James%20Gaskets-Products&Cj0KCQjw9ZGYBhCEARIsAEUXITWPi19PIDhtsL5ls--DQGKBKlsOZLGVLCOGZtdEBu4SRuSfi3BSi3saAjkqEALw_wcB&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9ZGYBhCEARIsAEUXITWPi19PIDhtsL5ls--DQGKBKlsOZLGVLCOGZtdEBu4SRuSfi3BSi3saAjkqEALw_wcB
Is okay to reuse the cam bearing in the cam plate after pressing the cams out?I am doing this job on my 2005 springer classic and I enjoy the heck out of your videos. You keep it simple.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Check it for roughness by spinning it if it has none your good.
I've been running my Twin Cam with stock tentioners since new in 03. Every 10 to 12 k I pull the cam cover and inspect the shoes. I intall new shoes around 20-25 k. H-D shoes definatly don't last that long though.
@DeathProofProductions
10 ай бұрын
Very true.
Hi. Great video. A quick question if you don't mind. Why did you press the cams out? I think I've seen another video where the cams were left in place. Thanks.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
You have to have that special tool I mentioned in the video. It's about 150 bucks plus shipping and for that money you can buy a small harbor freight press. Then you got a tool that can do more than one thing.
@jimmoore4643
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Hey, thanks for getting back to me. That totally makes sense. I just bought a 2003 Heritage Classic with only 6000 miles so I have awhile before I need to worry about it. I'll keep the press in mind. I do love me some tools.
Just picked up a 2003 Super Glide (my first Harley) with 23k miles. Figured for peace of mind, I would just replace the tensioners right away. Would you recommend also replacing the inner cam bearings? I don't the bearing puller/installation tool, so would need to order that if I need to do it. Great vid by the way! Helped me wrap my head around the job.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Replacing them is a good idea. If they have set for a long time without running then they are probably brittle. Your inner bearings are probably fine just use your finger and check for roughness.
@TomFrobish
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions alright, thank you for the advice! Look forward to seeing more of your content.
how do you know when to change the tensioners. do you go by miles or is there noise or clunk before they break. great video keep it up
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
In my easiest way to prevent cam chain tensioner failure video I show a picture of the wear level on that shoe. You don't want to go very much farther then that.
I'm thinking about changing out my push rods on my '02 FLHTCUI. What brand adjustable push rods do you recommend?
@DeathProofProductions
11 ай бұрын
To be honest there all about the same. I use s&s but that's just what I have been buying for years.
After installations of cam plate no need to put the pistons TDC? Did you keep the OE plate and oil pump? Can I keep OE plate, get S&S pump and cams and get a good performance? I have 03 25k original tensioners. That’s almost 20 years now. I checked barley any wear.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Alot like oil seals I found that if it was 20 years old but hadn't been run for the past ten years then the pads are prolly brittle. I learned that from experience but if it's ran off and on through those years to keep them lubed there good.
Hey brother, quick question, just got done putting together a 05 Heritage, my question is on the Rocker assembly 4 bolt's , I didn't use any blue loctite!! My Manuel didn't say too!! I did clean bolts and threads & torque to 20 ft lbs. What's your opinion? Should I tear Rocker assembly Back down & blue loctite them!! Thx!!
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
If you haven't put the gas tank back on I would just for piece of mind.
@pauld7309
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions thx bro. Will do in the morning. Yeah, I stopped after I torque the Rocker assembly down & figured I'd get your professional opinion!! Thx again for your help!!
Great job.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
Thank you for a awesome video !! I have a question is there a reason you remove the cams to change out the tensioners ? Again thank you for this video.
@DeathProofProductions
4 ай бұрын
The rear tensioner's spring pressure can't be completely unloaded with the rear chain in the way. Harbor freight sells a press just right for the job for 69 bucks and you could use it for alot of other stuff as well. Send me a email to davethom2004flstc@.gmail.com so I can send some pics of it to show how compact it is.
What's you thoughts on replacing with hydraulic tensioner kit? Do the lifters stay pumped up?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
They stay pumped, I personally have one with it in it it's a good alternative for those with the money.
Did you change them without pulling the rockers and lifters? Just curious, we are getting ready to do my Son's 2004 RK and thought we had to take the pushrods and lifters out.
@DeathProofProductions
3 ай бұрын
If you run adjustable push rods than you don't have to remove any of that. If you don't have them I recommend getting them. To remove the old ones just cut them with bolt cutters.
@wvmedic68
3 ай бұрын
@DeathProofProductions , gotcha and thank you for the reply.
i just bought a 2000 flhtc from the widow of a buddy. he passed about a year ago from cancer and the bike had been sitting for about 5 years. i have shovel and M8 but this is my first twin cam. what hydraulic pushrods should i use in a stock 88? thanks for all your videos
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
I like s&s myself but I'm sure the other brands are good. what year shovel you got. my first big twin that I built was a 1976 fxe.
@steve28849
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions my shovel is a 1971 flh that i've had since 1992. she's no trailer queen. she and i have been to every state east of WY.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
gotta respect that me and my heratage have been to love here like my kids.
Amazing work, I got a question about a 2006 night train. My bike has 5333 miles. I'm 60 years old. Do I need to have these shoes changed, or do you think I got the rest of my life to just ride the bike with no worries.
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
it really depends. i have seen them become brittle from age caused by not having lubrication. so it might be something to consider if you let the bike sit for long periods without running.
@nuffdoggiggey4103
8 ай бұрын
@DeathProofProductions I did. I just got it back from harley $3880 sitting fees, lol. Had cartic arrest, so I was down for at least 3 years with the bike in storage. It's back, and it looks like the day I bought it runs great. So your saying you witnessed brake down or maybe brittle shoes sitting for long periods? It has 5330 miles I guess no ware just could be brittle on the edges I guess . Click on my page then the little circle that's it...you got to like it.
@nuffdoggiggey4103
8 ай бұрын
You done this so many times I have to ask, are you on the East Coast and are you doing any work on the side ..I watched your skills, you have it, with not even thinking about it what goes next.
@DeathProofProductions
8 ай бұрын
when i was building my house i needed some money to finish it. so i sold my dyna to a friend of mine who let it sit for 5 years, never once cranked it up. when i got it back i pulled the cam cover to polish the oxidation off while i had it off i checked the shoes and they looked like new. about 2000 miles later the rear one came apart. was lucky i heard it and was able to hit the kill switch in time. i live in the ozark national forest north of conway AR. i am headed to the east coast this october what part you live in.
@nuffdoggiggey4103
8 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions wilmington nc about 45 minutes away from Myrtle Beach SC, I'm in NC on the coast like myrtle.
Haha, that's wonderful, you had me laughing. It reminds of learning Algebra, the teacher puts a problem up on the board, explains how to solve it, asks if you have any questions... then erases the board and the solution, puts up a new equation and then says, "solve this"! So, I'm guessing that it probably took you a couple of hours to do the job? I'll plan on about two days but I think I can do it. Those little power ratchets are a great tool, same with the power screwdriver. Are you a body builder or a power lifter?
@DeathProofProductions
2 жыл бұрын
That's ok how long you take but I promise there is nothing to it. Just go slow and it will be easy.
@DeathProofProductions
2 жыл бұрын
I strength train. It's a habit from my martial arts days but a ant what I once was.
When you took it off I seen it wasn't timed up is that something you don't worry about until reassembly you time it back up to topdead center
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yes
I have a 2001 electra glide you said In one of your replies you recommend going to the 1 ball bearing upgraded cam so you don't have to press both cams in at the same time is that correct?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Yes harley was having failures running two ball bearings so they changed it around 02 to 03.
@tonyzeni9186
Жыл бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions and can u Convert it while you're in there changing the campaign tensioners to the upgraded ball bearings and how do you go about that because there's a hole for each bearing for each Cam correct?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Sorry for delay been tied up with this shoulder surgery. Yes you can upgrade the bearings at that time. The factory swapped the drive side bearing to the roller. When you press out the cams just press out that bearing and install the roller into the plate and the inner race is pressed on the cam.
great video! where are you located? i have a 02 road king that need to get done.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Arkansas
Hi David, is it possible to remove / reinstall the secondary / inner tensioner without the special tool for tension release and without pressing the cams out?
@DeathProofProductions
5 ай бұрын
It might be possible, I have a idea that I will try tomorrow and see if it works If it does i will email you the video.
@michaelslawinski6449
4 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions I think will try to utilize the bearing installation tool which I got for the inner cam bearing replacement. I am thinking of using a piece of steel tubing to pull against to get the bearing in and out
@DeathProofProductions
4 ай бұрын
That is a freaking good idea.
Do you recommend the cyco gaskets lifters? Who makes them?
@DeathProofProductions
11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure. I can just say I'm impressed with there other products.
@BH-OldenRiden
11 ай бұрын
@@DeathProofProductions Thanks so much for the reply and the help. I'm looking at getting these products for my 2006 FLHTCUI, Quick Cam Change Twin Cam, 9905 (2 Shoes & 2 Pins), CY3996599, 9905T. Are these the right parts? I'm new to H-D but not mechanical repairs. The part numbers and descriptions on their site are a bit lacking in info. Oh, how exactly does that tool work?
Do you recommend replacing the oil pump? If so stock or aftermarket?
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Not unless it's damaged, other than that it's fine.
I was installing a new Feuling camchest kit with all new o rings but when I went to torque the camplate I noticed one of the bolts was stripped. So I had to remove the camplate along with the oil pump that was already attached to the camplate. I fixed the thread with a helicoil but I wanted to know, those new o rings should still be good right? To go to the Harley dealer and get new o rings it’s about a 45 minute drive
@DeathProofProductions
27 күн бұрын
Your good as long as there was no physical evidence of damage you can use them several times.
@joshuaramos9676
27 күн бұрын
@@DeathProofProductionsthank you.
Excellent video. I have been debating to use spring loaded or do the conversion to hydraulic. I think I will stay with spring loaded. Did you leave your oil pump attached to the plate when reinstalling? Did you have to "alig" the oil pump with tapered tools when installing the oil pump? It was great to see that you can use the same inner bearings.
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
I never take the oil pump off. There's no need when doing cams ot tensioners that way you don't have to have the tools to align it. I only remove pump when I have to.
After watching this, I feel absolute confidence in my ability to......... take my bike to the dealership for them to do it!
Heard alot about the twincam tensioner. Is replacing it enough or do I need to upgrade it to somethingelse? If so with what? Any suggestion..
@DeathProofProductions
Жыл бұрын
Replacing it is all you need.