How To Play Double Stroke Roll for Beginners

A detailed explanation of the double stroke roll for beginners and intermediate players. Improve your hand technique and more!
13 Double Stroke Roll Exercises for Beginners (Sixteenths): bmc.xyz/l/13dblstrexerc
10 More Double Stroke Roll Exercises (Triplets): bmc.xyz/l/uzUWABvMN
You can find a transcription of the intro of this video here:
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  • @DrumApe
    @DrumApe6 жыл бұрын

    Hey everyone, hope you liked this video. What did you enjoy most, is there something I missed? What other topic you would like me to make a tutorial on? Let me know and we can choose the topic for the next video. Cheers!

  • @CDMAHTCDESIRE

    @CDMAHTCDESIRE

    4 жыл бұрын

    You never explained that your "Diddle" is really "Open Close" Technique...i see that you are using your wrist twice, which it should be one motion with a squeeze. so 1 stroke.. 2 taps.. watch that pinky, you should also check the Open Close continuous mode...

  • @aannttrrooss
    @aannttrrooss6 жыл бұрын

    best explanation of the double stroke on youtube

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I appreciate that!

  • @juice3185

    @juice3185

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would like to second that. You explained questions in my head I didn't know how to ask...you have set me right....big thanks👍🏽

  • @LeireColomo

    @LeireColomo

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think the same. Very good explanation. Good Job!

  • @jaedii7287

    @jaedii7287

    5 жыл бұрын

    I second this

  • @mdegaris1972

    @mdegaris1972

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agree, this answered a lot questions I had. Thanks!

  • @49Macman
    @49Macman Жыл бұрын

    I have been a drummer most of my sixty years of life! Received my percussion degree from a University, but never knew what a "diddle" was. Thank You!

  • @ChrisLee-yr7tz

    @ChrisLee-yr7tz

    Жыл бұрын

    You must have missed the first day....🤣

  • @thatbiscuit7522
    @thatbiscuit7522 Жыл бұрын

    This is literally the only video that’s actually helpful, thank you!

  • @chipgracey169
    @chipgracey1695 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Drum Ape. This is a really helpful breakdown on how the diddle works.

  • @Gamont
    @Gamont4 жыл бұрын

    best video of double stroke on youtube, thank you

  • @dick91p
    @dick91p3 жыл бұрын

    Not only are you a great drummer, but also a great teacher. I’ve been looking for a lesson like this all my life. Thanks!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow thanks so much for saying this, I am humbled.

  • @ida5232
    @ida52325 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I’ve been looking for!♥️ Thanks for showing the hands in detail!!!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    So glad you think this way! Thanks for your support.

  • @Green89_
    @Green89_2 жыл бұрын

    This video is the best explanation and I’ve spent the past hour watching videos on this on here.

  • @andrew007s
    @andrew007s7 ай бұрын

    Amazing detail!! Thanks for this video!!

  • @sethjoelclement
    @sethjoelclement6 жыл бұрын

    A very clear and concise explanation with useful exercises. Thanks, keep up the good work!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey Seth, thanks for your kind words!

  • @remyvandonk7762
    @remyvandonk77626 жыл бұрын

    Best video on double strokes!! Thanks a ton!!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey great! Thanks!

  • @kirstenfruehling2868
    @kirstenfruehling28683 жыл бұрын

    This is probably the best video on the double stroke roll!!! Thank you!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thanks! Did you check out this one? kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqyfudSBcdCbiJc.html

  • @exit4all
    @exit4all4 жыл бұрын

    This is by far the most useful explanation of the double I've found on the net. Now it makes sense to me, especially because of the exposition of the exact finger and movement details! Thank you!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi! thanks for your kind words! I am very happy that my video helped you in any way, good luck with your playing and thanks for watching!

  • @vincenzomacalluso4032
    @vincenzomacalluso40325 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video for learning double stroke rolls. :) You helped me a lot. Great thanks and greetings from the Czech Republic!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Thanks!

  • @Brandon-mf5uh
    @Brandon-mf5uh2 жыл бұрын

    Most helpful video on how to perform a double stroke. Thanks.

  • @seaswirlfisher
    @seaswirlfisher2 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation of the double stroke roll thank you

  • @michaelross7178
    @michaelross71784 жыл бұрын

    All i can say is thank you for this every other video on this the instructor spends more time showing how amazing they're at it and not actually explaining what I'm supposed to do. So thank you.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Michael, thanks for your kind words, really means a lot! I know I’m not amazing technically but really was my goal to show what I know works for a beginner as most of my students are beginners. So thanks!

  • @nikolabrankovic8619
    @nikolabrankovic86193 жыл бұрын

    As a very newbie, this is the best explanation of doubles, thx

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @mkalamaras
    @mkalamaras6 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for such a clearly explained and demonstrated tutorial. As stated in comments below, this is the best video lesson on the double roll on KZread. Most everyone else just plays a roll in increasing speed and that's it, with no real tips or advice.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words mkalamaras, that was my goal, very glad I made something useful. Rock on!

  • @ddrumcorner4682
    @ddrumcorner46825 жыл бұрын

    Tommie Igoe and Jojo Mayer , to me , have covered this topic with great efficacy. However I'd admit this was not only concise, well articulated and filmed but also well demonstrated. Great stuff man ! Hands down THE best double stroke tutorial on KZread!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you so much! Appreciate your words.

  • @mrjumps9521
    @mrjumps9521 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, thank you for your video, it's enlightening! I know it may seem obvious but mastering the shots is really the key to everything. The experience of doing something without almost effort, feeling a perfect balance between the mind and the body and the wand that is a part of us. I was also able to perfectly perceive the elasticity of the contact surface: whatever it is (even a pillow, a knee, the floor) it gives us a feeling. Just adapt and you're done!!! Thanks a lot

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    This one is a must-see! Totally nailed it!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very glad you thought so!

  • @mickc2339
    @mickc23395 жыл бұрын

    I had pretty much given up trying to master the double stroke roll, having just discovered your tutorial i have found new hope on the technique, I appreciate your explanation and will go back and persevere, thank you, I’ll let you know how it goes 👍

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow thanks that’s awesome! Never give up, it’s an everyday battle. Let me know how it goes.

  • @samhilton4173

    @samhilton4173

    2 жыл бұрын

    How did it go?

  • @mickc2339

    @mickc2339

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samhilton4173 it didn’t go too well, I’ve pretty much given up ! Sorry for the sad ending dude🙁

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go back to the drawing board and try again. Don’t give up yet

  • @samhilton4173

    @samhilton4173

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same for me, man. I just can't get it. Maybe I simply don't have the hand dexterity for it. Been trying for years, myself.

  • @MrKukik158
    @MrKukik1585 жыл бұрын

    I have started learning drum for 2 wks. I couldn't play double stroke roll and I searched double stroke roll technique from many video clip untill I watched this VDO clip. It is the best explanation clip.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    hi thanks a lot for saying this!

  • @MrKukik158

    @MrKukik158

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your VDO clip is so amazing, I really appreciate that.

  • @ronbenvenisti8271
    @ronbenvenisti82713 жыл бұрын

    Bravo, really great explanation of the technique, I agree that this is the best one on KZread on Double Stroke Roll for Beginners

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ron Benvenisti, thank you so much for your kind words.

  • @JakehasAyoutube
    @JakehasAyoutube2 жыл бұрын

    holy cow man, i saw the light. when you said dont even think about the first hit and focus on the second< i saw the light. thank you

  • @efestian5993
    @efestian59934 жыл бұрын

    You have excellent explanations and demonstrations.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, that means a lot to me.

  • @sharon9627
    @sharon96273 жыл бұрын

    I was struggling while playing double stork roll but now I able to play freely from your video 😊 thanks for making this video👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️😉

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sharon, that is so cool! Thanks for saying something :)

  • @AnKlMa
    @AnKlMa4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, I finally get it!

  • @juriaan6064
    @juriaan60646 жыл бұрын

    By far the best double stroke explanation

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words!

  • @themole2024
    @themole20245 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the no ego tutorial. Excellent job if showing and explaining the stroke. Others seem to just want to show off, while you actually teach. again thanks! "the key is to actually disconnect from the need to produce the second hit and simply let the stick bounce..." yes!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Fred, thank you for your kind words. Yes I wanted it to be straight to the point and most of all - effective and useful. I am very glad you found it to be just that! Thanks again and cheers.

  • @user-zj2xq9fu7b
    @user-zj2xq9fu7b3 ай бұрын

    I still love this video!!! Let me watch this forever...

  • @Squirrel-zq6oe
    @Squirrel-zq6oe2 жыл бұрын

    I also just wanted to thank you so much for this video right here. I just subscribed to your channel just from watching this video because it immediately kind of made it click in my mind about what to do with my hands. I'm looking forward to more videos from you. Great job and thank you.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, very kind of you to say. I should have some more videos in the near future!

  • @bikerdrummer
    @bikerdrummer5 жыл бұрын

    brilliant tutorial! Thank you

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, thanks!

  • @joetoe9207
    @joetoe92075 жыл бұрын

    Tx for doing this. Very helpful!!!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot, so glad that helped

  • @Devon523
    @Devon5235 жыл бұрын

    Great video man thanks! I have to teach one of my students double stroke rolls and while it's something I can do very well I struggled with how to explain it to a beginner. This was very helpful in helping me find the words

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for the kind words. So happy this helped. Cheers!

  • @vincentsantarelli6915
    @vincentsantarelli69153 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the response..I've been struggling for awhile with all stokes.Hammering out back beats and really digging in damaged alot of the sensitivity of the fingers underneath.This is a real open approach and really letting the weight of the sticks (gravity) do some of the work. Also I found that standing up and letting the arms move like in your demos is really helping. Im going to focus on doubles and I will keep you posted.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    So cool, let me know if I can help further! Good luck

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this. I’m watching it over and over and practising it too. I know now that I’ll get there! 👏🇦🇺✌️

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Markie, so glad

  • @vincentsantarelli6915
    @vincentsantarelli69155 жыл бұрын

    Ive been using your approach to doubles ..Yeah works well.No wasted motions.I was having some problems when just using wrist for the throw down.I find that using the forearm while keeping the wrist straight helps,,thats it without locking the wrist and standing up getting a full extension from the arms helps also..Thanks

  • @johnmarkgarcelazo3947
    @johnmarkgarcelazo39472 жыл бұрын

    Gosh! this is what I looking for! Thanks for it bruhh, you're great!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Josh thanks!

  • @Rick-pi9zn
    @Rick-pi9zn4 жыл бұрын

    this is so perfect in every way

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn’t call it perfect but I’m flattered! Thanks!

  • @OtisAvalon
    @OtisAvalon3 жыл бұрын

    Great job man! Thanks for that

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks pl jb!

  • @uncletonysfunhouse
    @uncletonysfunhouse Жыл бұрын

    This is great. Thanks so much for a thorough lesson. You break it down so clearly and I have a much better idea of the basics I need to be working on.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    Жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @tilmanncordes3286
    @tilmanncordes32863 жыл бұрын

    thank you very much, my dude! great instruction!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tilmann, thanks I appreciate it!

  • @jackchesnut1956
    @jackchesnut19563 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant tutorial!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jack

  • @brucekendall52
    @brucekendall525 жыл бұрын

    This is oustanding tuition,thk you.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very kind of you, thanks! Cheers!

  • @poop0129
    @poop01292 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! This helps alot!!

  • @petermallett2277
    @petermallett22775 жыл бұрын

    Great instruction. Thank you

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @petermallett2277

    @petermallett2277

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do you have the advanced video you mentioned in this video?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, which one do you mean? Inverted double stroke roll?

  • @chavylevy7355
    @chavylevy73554 жыл бұрын

    Great intro!

  • @bruhsilisk
    @bruhsilisk Жыл бұрын

    thanks! helped a bunch

  • @AA-sg1si
    @AA-sg1si2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @mgsandcds
    @mgsandcds Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much I'm a beginner and was struggling to learn

  • @tusharshah3679
    @tusharshah36793 жыл бұрын

    Very good style of the way u explained 🌹

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Tushar Shah, thanks a lot!

  • @jacekjanus8261
    @jacekjanus82614 жыл бұрын

    Bardzo dziękuję :) Poszedłem do przodu!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nie ma za co przyjacielu. Mam nowy film o podwójnym rzucie, możesz obejrzeć go jutro! Twoje zdrowie

  • @johnnyofast5924
    @johnnyofast59246 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff, thanks man, I'll get to work.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to you too, let me know how it works out

  • @19in2thedreamland2
    @19in2thedreamland23 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks a lot! That's really helpful

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! Will have some new videos soon.

  • @Flo-ek2yj
    @Flo-ek2yj4 жыл бұрын

    I was looking on KZread for ages and saw KZread and have finally got the hang of it! Thanks man ✌️

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am so glad to hear this!

  • @vincentsantarelli6915
    @vincentsantarelli69153 жыл бұрын

    great stuff,works good for me

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Vincent Santarelli, so glad to hear that! You could also check you this video about double stroke roll: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqyfudSBcdCbiJc.html Cheers!

  • @Tummyboxx
    @Tummyboxx Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @drumrit
    @drumrit4 жыл бұрын

    I like the Steve Morse band groove at the end. Nice touch!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't sure if anyone would recognise it lol

  • @drumrit

    @drumrit

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DrumApe I have a really important question. I've watched your video on paradiddles and then this one as well. The way I think I'm supposed to play them beyond a certain speed is to do a controlled bounce for the diddles. Is this correct? Or am I supposed to do the push pull technique? Your technique is very subtle and even though I tried slowing it down, I couldn't figure it out. I've now plateaued at about 120bpm.

  • @furrymonsta1591
    @furrymonsta15912 жыл бұрын

    Ive just started with a pad and sticks. This lesson is great. I have no idea what steps/skills to learn as a beginner , there is a huge amount of content on the web but its hard to find a playlist that walks you through the early stages of learning. If you could layout a beginners playlist in order from your content that would be great or add an overview lesson to explain how to start and what stages of learning that would be helpful. A lot of content assumes that you are "into" drums and drumming and doesnt cater to those who are coming from other musical backgrounds. I found your presentation skills the best of everyone I have watched so far. Great stuff.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your kind words! I have thought about such a series for people who are just starting. It would be a real challenge as I would have to start with basic music theory and that takes a very different approach and would be more visual, which is not really my strong suit. But I will definitely think about what I could do in this direction. Thanks for watching and for your suggestions. Good luck with your playing!

  • @WhooshWh0sh
    @WhooshWh0sh Жыл бұрын

    I actually just figured it out myself, but doing it a different way. Instead of giving space to the stick to bounce back, I interrupt it with my thumb, while keeping the fulcrum point with index finger completely relaxing all the others. Depending on how tensed the thumb is the tempo changes.

  • @fede77
    @fede775 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video and amazing skills! BTW you mention another video where you'll cover how to play the double stroke roll in its inverted form, but couldn't find it in your channel. ¿are you planning on realeasing it some day? looking forward to it!! Thanks!!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks! Oh well you got me there.. definitely an important topic, I’ll make sure to cover this in the nearest future, thanks!

  • @joetroutt7425
    @joetroutt74253 жыл бұрын

    I see that the diddle is the key to every great solo.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    No way around it

  • @lazytachyeon
    @lazytachyeon3 жыл бұрын

    this is guy is a legendary teacher....thats all ive gotta say

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Amal Josh, so kind of you, thanks!

  • @lazytachyeon

    @lazytachyeon

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@DrumApe no bruh, thanks to u!...appreciate it so much...

  • @andrew007s
    @andrew007s7 ай бұрын

    Please make videos on how to use rolls and para diddles as fills.

  • @philsswweightlossdiary2944
    @philsswweightlossdiary29443 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been working on double strokes recently and I noticed my wrist movement is the same as yours and as I get faster I tend to stick out my little finger which you appear to do as well. That makes me feel a little better about my technique. My left hand still needs work though but thanks to this I feel like I’m going in the right direction. Cheers.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, I'm so glad to hear this. This is kind of an old video, I'd say my technique has evolved somewhat, maybe you could take a look at a newer one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/YqyfudSBcdCbiJc.html I have noticed when the left hand is weak, usually it doesn't make a wave, like the right hand does. By wave I mean a hint of whip motion. Perhaps try that? Cheers!

  • @philsswweightlossdiary2944

    @philsswweightlossdiary2944

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will definitely check it out. Yeah I’ve noticed my wrist isn’t as strong on my left hand so my control over the stick is what’s letting me down, I’m definitely not getting that whip motion. My control on my right hand is fine so I can work on speed but putting both hands together still sounds uneven. Just got to keep on using the pad to practice.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    George Stone says in his book that you need to work on each hand individually before putting them together, you might find that useful. Check out stick control. Cheers

  • @vincentsantarelli6915
    @vincentsantarelli69155 жыл бұрын

    really nice.Good explanation.Do you have something for wrist development as in free stroke or full stroke?Just wrist hinge

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks! No I don't, but sounds like a great topic for my next video.

  • @storiedtbh
    @storiedtbh5 жыл бұрын

    Is there a part two to this? I've got this down, but I need my second beat to be louder. Thank you so much for this great lesson!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Kathy, thanks for your question. A few people have asked me about this already, so it’s time to make this particular video. I’ll try to make it happen this coming month.

  • @hasfidanken
    @hasfidanken Жыл бұрын

    I came here from Drumeo, where the double stroke roll is very poorly explained. Your video is so much better in every way.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    Жыл бұрын

    Makes me so happy to hear that, thank you!

  • @magnuswootton6181
    @magnuswootton6181 Жыл бұрын

    GOLD!!!!

  • @guiseppemondi
    @guiseppemondi5 жыл бұрын

    i have watched many many drum tutorials, ..and i spent so much time watching useless videos..... yours are the best! ...i am currently concentrating on learning double strokes, paradiddles, 5 and 6 stroke roll, ... are you planning to do tutorials about 5 and 6 stroke rolls?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for saying this. Well, 5 and 6 stroke rolls.. I think I need to develop those better for myself, before I could make a video about it. But I don't see why not!

  • @guiseppemondi

    @guiseppemondi

    5 жыл бұрын

    cool! ...in the meantime, i will be watching all your other videos... and trying to learn...

  • @dannmann8295
    @dannmann82956 жыл бұрын

    Excellent vid. You mention that the weak side often sounds, well, weak, and that is one of my biggest problems. My left hand is like a cement block compared to right, I have trouble landing the stick in the same spot when practicing, it's kind of all over. What is your advice for strengthening and getting this weaker hand to get with the program? I'm trying to spend more time with just left hand during practice, but nothing I've tried so far seems to be doing much good.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks for your question. That often happens when the wrist is locked. Your aim should be to unlock the wrist while pinching the stick firmly with your thumb and middle, ring and pointer fingers. Also it would be ideal if you spent more time on just the left hand but don’t overdo it. Focus on getting good bounce from the stick without using muscles than you don’t need to like biceps and shoulder, which will lock up your arm. I promise to make a video about working up strength in the fingers and palm muscles which overcomes the problem of locking up, it’s hard to answer such question in a comment. Cheers!

  • @BlenderisedMind

    @BlenderisedMind

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video and this comment! I have the same issue with my weak left hand. But I'm gonna practice a lot.

  • @reeselayton3031

    @reeselayton3031

    3 жыл бұрын

    Given weakness in your non-dominant hand, if you do singles and doubles with both hands alternating and at the same time, you will find you are swinging the weak hand differently and holding the stick slightly differently looking for strength thus swinging at angles, not vertically. Go painfully slow like 50 bpm and force yourself to imitate the strong hand with the weak. Don't exceed the speed where you can imitate the strong hand. You will then be able to feel and exercise the wrist swing and each finger separately and together with the stick falling naturally straight down and bouncing straight up. Speed is the enemy here. Your strong hand is the teacher and the weak hand is the student. And that's for a lifetime at the edges of your skills.

  • @buddyrichable1
    @buddyrichable13 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation. My question is regarding your grip technique. I have been using the Murray Spivak method, where the stick is held loosely and is resting in the pocket of the first knuckle of the third digit, (second finger). It’s a bit hard to tell, but it appears to me that is how you hold the stick, and if you think it’s a good method.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi buddyrichable1, thanks! I just saw Chad Wackerman explain about Murray's method and it was fascinating. It affirmed a lot of thing I learned with time and a lot of my tutoring revolves around Stick Control and also around being relaxed and remaining in that state as you turn up the speed. Do I understand correctly, you are asking about the ring finger or the middle finger?

  • @juice3185
    @juice31855 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed...✔️

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks!

  • @ar2rtg491
    @ar2rtg491 Жыл бұрын

    Super

  • @drewkocak
    @drewkocak7 жыл бұрын

    Dude, you should do covers on the channel too!!

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    7 жыл бұрын

    I will eventually.. I just want to cover my basics first lol

  • @johnokelly1983
    @johnokelly1983 Жыл бұрын

    I’m a little confused as to how this works with the inverted double stroke roll in your other video. Do you tap with a downstroke, then use a combination of wrist/arms for the upstroke, at the same time or slightly after, use the fingers to play the second hit? I’m not sure if that text makes sense..

  • @pebbletrees
    @pebbletrees3 жыл бұрын

    the best

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice thanks!

  • @DipankarDas-id2uf
    @DipankarDas-id2uf7 жыл бұрын

    carry on

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    7 жыл бұрын

    Let's hope KZread lasts ;)

  • @giorgiavazashvili4050
    @giorgiavazashvili40506 жыл бұрын

    That's the best one on youtube for double stroke lessons! P.S - Can somebody tell me if there's a tutorial for the exercise pattern which is in the intro of this video?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for saying this! The intro is something I wrote, as I needed an intro. So no tutorial, but maybe I can transcribe it and post it in the description?

  • @giorgiavazashvili4050

    @giorgiavazashvili4050

    6 жыл бұрын

    Drum Ape, that would be great! It sounds really fancy to me and I'd like to show off to my band conductor! 😄

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Super cool, I’ll have it up later today

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ok transcription is up in the description. Please check it out, let me know how it works out!

  • @giorgiavazashvili4050

    @giorgiavazashvili4050

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you man! There's one more thing I want to ask. Can you name the rolls which you have had used in this pattern?(For example: 2 stroke roll, 6 stroke roll, para-diddle roll etc.)

  • @chavylevy7355
    @chavylevy73557 жыл бұрын

    Not bad:)

  • @rytchbytchrockingclub3867
    @rytchbytchrockingclub38673 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot Drum Ape! I have a question to all of you: I have started to practice on the drumset however when I'm sitting down in front of the snare drum and start to try Event #1, my thighs get in the way of the stick's butt end traveling down (while the tip goes up). I am already sitting rather high, my upper leg goes somewhat downward, not parallel to the floor, still there is no way the stick will not hit the leg. Am I right to assume that the very beginning of this exercise (where the stick goes the full movement) can only be done standing up (cause when I just raise the drum then I'd need to raise my arms to ridiculous heights and the forearms are nowhere close to parallel to the floor)? I can see that the stick will eventually not travel this far when one starts to play the diddles faster, so I guess that's just something that occurs when you're dissecting the technique like this. Or am I doing something wrong? Do all of you experience this when in a real-life seating position and starting with Event #1?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Rÿtch Bÿtch Rocking Club, you are not wrong. I guess the way I've shown it in the video would only work standing up. My intent was to show the mechanics of the motions necessary to make the diddle happen. I just sat down on the drumset and tired it, before I answer you. It worked ok. I guess it would matter exactly where the snare is, maybe try to push it forward away from you a few centimeters, if that's not enough, try going inward a bit with your hands, toward french grip position. I made sure my forehand was parallel to the floor while doing the diddle, with my wrist hanging slightly downward. The motion becomes closer to push-pull technique, so maybe check that out and model between the two. Hope that helps, let me know if you have more questions. Cheers.

  • @henniesbeanies9064
    @henniesbeanies90644 жыл бұрын

    How long you took to learn it guys?

  • @pauloabreu1196
    @pauloabreu11964 жыл бұрын

    What would you recommend for someone with arthritis in their hands? And are still learning how to play

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am not a physician and you should definitely consult with one. My advice is - build your technique and endurance very slowly and pace yourself. If you experience pain while you play - stop and rest. Otherwise I'm still learning and hopefully I will for years to come. It's a journey, not a destination. Cheers!

  • @vaidikjain7960
    @vaidikjain79605 жыл бұрын

    Please do that even double stroke rule video fast my strokes are uneven it would be a great help. Thanks

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Please elaborate exactly what you mean, not sure I understand 100%, thanks.

  • @vaidikjain7960

    @vaidikjain7960

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DrumApe their is some minor problems with my grip my friend said I open my hand too much during double stroke.

  • @camelcase9225
    @camelcase92255 жыл бұрын

    I should buy a practice pad. Don't even have a drum kit but would love to get one some day. I think it'd be beneficial to have good technique before jumping right on a kit and having at it. Can anyone comment on this?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I’d say you need to work up your muscles and hands a bit on the pad before jumping on the kit. Ease into it and don’t rush the results, with time things will smooth out. Hope that helps.

  • @lupahole
    @lupahole4 жыл бұрын

    My double stroke roll has gotten very clean and very fast but i struggle to find any use for it in our band. We play mostly 80's style post punk (original songs). Ideas?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    I almost never use double stroke roll in real life playing situations. But whenever I need to play some fast fill or a passage requires it it's right there. You might want to check out some linear grooves, and try to incorporate some double hits in the pattern in the hi hat or snare. Learn to play it fast and maybe if there's a drum break in the arrangement you can try to use it. That would be my best guess.

  • @voederbietels
    @voederbietels4 жыл бұрын

    good job . i am old i am 57 can i still learn this ? and is one hour a day enough do you think to study and learn this technicque ?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Franky-B, really depends on a lot of factors, but if you really play everyday you should see improvements even after a few weeks. However, you should take warming up and stretching very seriously, as that would minimise the risk of hurting your wrists. Also, this is one way of achieving a natural double stroke, you should check out other sources and hopefully with combined knowledge you'll get best results. Cheers and good luck!

  • @voederbietels

    @voederbietels

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DrumApe thank you for your reply. I'm going to try. This technique is amazing.

  • @andrewsoseiyeboah2899
    @andrewsoseiyeboah2899 Жыл бұрын

    Please I don't have the drum pad what else can I used to learn the double stroke roll at home

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    Жыл бұрын

    Try mouse pad on a desk or table. It’s not optimal but should work as a temporary solution.

  • @carolineharvey1
    @carolineharvey14 жыл бұрын

    I've just started learning at 60, have a Pearl Kit, have had carpal tunnel operation in both hands, hoping they get faster, fingers don't work great with carpal tunnel, operation doesn't really help

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Full respect to you, but please be careful. With so much damage you could easily hurt yourself again. My advice would be to check out the jazz approach, it's more minimal and relies heavily on the natural rebound of the stick, although fingers are involved. Basically anything that's played gently should be alright.

  • @wedfrest
    @wedfrest3 жыл бұрын

    Well diddle me this

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chewie Lewie lol!

  • @spudmint
    @spudmint3 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good video, but I've never felt so much like a hand version of Bambi in my life 😂😂

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spudmint that’s hilarious!

  • @ryonchero4401
    @ryonchero44013 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant teaching method. The 36 non likes must have been from people who have been diddled.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha thanks a lot!

  • @swiss6253
    @swiss62532 жыл бұрын

    Having a hard time understanding the point of that full range of motion. When you play quicker it won't have that much rotation. Just seems like an awkward version of french grip fingers like blast beat, but when I see people doing doubles it seems faster than it is? Dunno, my left prefers singles and can't do doubles well, and my right prefers doubles/triples. All the push pull stuff just confuses me.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Swiss, not sure what you mean by full range motion, but either way full range motion has more inertia, which is a driving force behind rebound. So my rationale is that developing rebound, especially for a complete beginner, comes with exaggerated amplitudes, to ensure the stick has enough inertia to produce a bounce. Hope that answers your question. Regarding the french grip - you could really make doubles in any technique, but I the French grip would limit the amplitude, as the thumb is on top of the stick. Push-pull comes out naturally after you get some resonance going. My advice is work on your left hand individually and give it some time to catch up to the right hand. Cheers.

  • @swiss6253

    @swiss6253

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DrumApe Guess I wrote that weird. I just mean the 2:00 - 3:00. There is such a large range of motion, I get that you're exaggerating it to a point but I can't seem to get my brain to make sense of it in a smaller motion. I also can't seem to get the bounce that high either, but I'll keep trying. It's like my brain just wants to do L-R-R and can't make sense of doing L-L-R-R. I guess it's from drumming in my head for 20 years without knowing any technique. Just been drumming on a practice pad for a couple months. Thanks for the reply and I'll keep working on it.

  • @johnmorrison9758
    @johnmorrison97586 жыл бұрын

    very good lesson, but it sounds like you contradict yourself. At the beginning you say to let the second hit happen naturally, but then later on you tell us to snap the stick back for the second hit. I keep working on that second hit and am hoping for an explanation that works best for me.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey yes that’s true I said that. The second hit happening naturally is a broader definition, but to make the roll sound smooth we need to emphasize on the second hit until it becomes as stable and predictable as the first. What needs to happen is pull up the bounce from the first hit, as you get height it’s easier to strike again for the second hit. Since I made this video I have been working on using the ring and middle fingers to pull for the second hit while keeping the wrist straight. That way I minimize wrist movement while maximizing stick height. I’ll try to make a video about it at some point. Cheers!

  • @francois2291
    @francois22913 жыл бұрын

    C'est triste, c'est pas en français. 😢 Sinon, merci pour cette vidéo !! 😊

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Salut, j'ai posté des sous-titres en anglais, j'espère que cela aiderait un peu :) Merci!

  • @RackwitzG
    @RackwitzG5 жыл бұрын

    I‘m now confused with the guys that teach to practice double strokes on a pillow without rebound only using your wrist for the strokes.

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    5 жыл бұрын

    RackwitzG Playing on pillows should be taken with a grain of salt, as it puts strain on the wrists and that could lead to injury if those muscles are not yet developed. Please make sure you do some stretching exercises before and after practicing. Good luck!

  • @spudmint
    @spudmint3 жыл бұрын

    If your wrists start aching a bit does it mean you are doing it wrong?

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi spudmint, it could be a number of things. But usually means you are overdoing it. Try to be more disciplined when it comes to stretching exercises for your wrists. Stretch before and after you play. Don't try to force anything, just be patient and give yourself a few months of consistent and balanced practice routine. But if it really hurts, my advice is stop playing for a couple of days and give it some rest. If the pain continues you should see a doctor. Good luck and let me know how it works out!

  • @spudmint

    @spudmint

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrumApe thanks for that. It's not crazy pain or anything, just aches a bit but I didn't know you were supposed to stretch before playing drums. I'll have to look up some stretches. I'll try and slow down a bit, make sure I'm not going to fast because I'm only a beginner so probably trying to bite off more than I can chew. Thanks for the advice 🙂

  • @DrumApe

    @DrumApe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, stretching is a must as tendons and muscles tend to tighten up and shorten as you require work load from them. I used to have an inflammation on my left hand from overplaying so I know this will help you. Cheers