I know it's an older video but awesome to see 3v getting some love. I would love to see some 5.4 3v truck engine love lol

These are not my favorite engines but if you own one, please keep it full of oil, and beat on it a little. Making this engine work a little, and sing a little, makes them live. Cam phasers pay the price of maintenance neglect first, and the oiling system isn't known for toughness. Fresh lube makes them happy, they will go 300K if you do. Great content Richard !

@erikturner5073

2 жыл бұрын

They have far greater lower to mid range torque than the so called more favored 96-98 4 valve engines. Much more enjoyable to drive on the street.

@trizkial7592

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikturner5073 I can agree with this. I had a 2007 GT and I was thinking about turning it in for a Mach 1 4V. My 3V felt so much better at the low and mid range. Top end was about even. The 4v is obviously a fantastic engine but modern technology with variable cam timing and such really do make a big difference

@trizkial7592

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikturner5073 So hence I didn’t make the trade after test driving the Mach 1. Sweet car though still

@erikturner5073

2 жыл бұрын

@@trizkial7592 plus the 4v engine has too low compression at 9:1 compression compared to the 3 valve 10:1. That makes a BIG difference. Especially with torque production, and torque is king in low and midrange power.

@erikturner5073

2 жыл бұрын

@@trizkial7592 The 3v cars are very fun on the streets and they are some of the best looking and also have a sweet unique sound. Never liked the coyote with loud exhaust. They are obnoxious! If I were to step away from foxbodys. I would myself find a nice 3 valve mustang.

Thank you for showing the 3v some love

the 3valve has my vote for best sounding v8 of all time

@KuddnPete

2 жыл бұрын

fasho

@sniperpronerfmods9811

2 жыл бұрын

NO

@andrewslagle1974

6 ай бұрын

I agree best sounding modern v8 the average man can afford!

With CAI, 91 Octane tune (no 93 tune for that tuner), underdrive pulleys, on stock intake and exhaust, I got 307 hp at the wheels. Now I have added charge motion plate delete kit, headers and high flow cats, and a proper 93 octane tune, I will have my local shop do a fine tune on the dyno to see what improvement was made. Eventually, I will build up an all forged engine with ported heads and larger cams, but that is after my other projects are completed...

Man Great job on everything you your doing! They say if you love what you do you never work a day in your life! I would like to see you boost a 1uzfe 4.0 v8 Toyota Lexus 1st gen non vvti have thicker rods! Hey keep up the good work / fun!

Do a big bang 3v!

Thanks for the videos. I learn something every time!

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Much needed video 😎

Awesome! I LOVE 3V 4.6s. a good set of cams and an intake manifold REALLY wakes these engines up big time. Unlike the 2v, once you do those two mods, your well above 300 rwhp. Throw a nice set u Of heads in the mix, iv seen cars make 350-375 wheel with a nice hci on a 3v! These just didn't get much love because the coyote came out and, well, who doesn't love that beast lol?

@utahcountypicazospage5412

2 жыл бұрын

These didn’t get much love because cam sprockets would blow out of the front and rods couldn’t handle much power it wasn’t a good staring point

@cainadkins3985

2 жыл бұрын

The 2 v is the better motor lol you can make above three hundred with a cam and intake too lol

@cainadkins3985

2 жыл бұрын

3 valves are 2 valves made unreliable

@mike8066

Жыл бұрын

@@cainadkins3985 that's not true

@cainadkins3985

Жыл бұрын

@@mike8066 what part Mike 3v is the worst sounding and performing configuration of the mod motor in all the different family's

Awwsome👍👍 next up a 5.4 3v.

Can't wait to see the custom intake. Are we going to see any aftermarket cams tested? Run the TFS 2v/4v crank sprockets, a set of comp 127400 cams and lock them out at a 108 degree ICL and enjoy! Then add a set of H-beams and forged pistons and throw 17 lbs of boost at it.

Love these engines,not even sure why.Had a 07 Pro-charged with a wastegate (which id like to see you test a wastegated bower)

Thanks for the video

Thanks Mr. Richie 😎

Richard Holder, could you revisit the 3V engine. Being Holley offers thier long runner intakes for the 3V now that has different tops. There designed to run a single 4150 carb style flange, a dual 4150 carb flange, & EFI lids to bolt a forward facing TB. Holley designed them to be similar to the GM LS Engine Ram intake to run long/short runner upper plenum or carburetor plenum.

We need a comparison. 4.6 3v vs 5.4 3v

Just a note. The N2o boost wet can go safely to 1.47 times power boost. So 361 or 369 goes to 531 to 542 hp, but with an insane mid range torque blip, just like a nicely intercooled 7 pounds of boost. Despite the lower than normal gasoline plus N2o gain with the Zex, just 1.20 or so just being like 3 pounds of turbo boost, that Vortech is always softer on the drive train. Great Gains anyway you choose it!

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

the amount of nitrous the kit can supply is a function of the jetting, the solenoid flow and then the bottle pressure. The multiplier mentioned is just a math statement.

As a 2v guy I with I had that torque curve. As a 226k mile engine I'm glad I don't have cam phasers to replace

@salisburysteve3104

2 жыл бұрын

Dude you should see it with the variable cam timing enabled. Also you just do the phasers when you put in your new cams.

@tturi2

2 жыл бұрын

3v Heads are pretty good

@Adrianzx

2 жыл бұрын

@@tturi2 and 2v heads are pretty bad

@tturi2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Adrianzx boost always helps

@Adrianzx

2 жыл бұрын

@@tturi2 that's my plan. The new Texas made 88 is looking great but I really want something in the 57-63mm range for fun to drive and maybe my trans holding

I hope you get a controller that can run VCT makes the engines so much more efficient especially when they're independent like on the coyote I think I read a test where it lost like a hundred horsepower or something just from not having that. And I know that on the dino you usually only run in at the extreme RPM so when your daily driving it especially not just for power but efficiency

Wow, man!! You reading my mind?? I can just think about something being dyno'd and you release a video about it! How?

@AjarZzzz

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Its strange definitely!

@hbetz5300

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been here too!!

@Jim_Lawrence

2 жыл бұрын

ESPN?

They have their basis issues but they are great street engines with far better low to midrange torque than the 4 valve motor. They are fun to drive with basic mods.

Mr Holdener you rock!!! How much HP did the headers add over the stock manifolds and do you recall the manufacture/sizing? No one lists 4.6l 3V headers for a 2010 F150-I just assume no power gains. Looking forward to part 2!!!! Also when you get a chance, please post part 4 (the big heads) of the SBF cylinder head series, Thank you Tony.

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

very little gain, but we didn't have VVT so not sure it was an accurate test

More 3v!!!!!

Videos of dyno charts from 2008 still getting views 🤣 Love the video and knowledge share but damn

@302hobronco

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, we most likely won't see a 3v run with the variable can timing due to no aftermarket was supporting it way back in the day.

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

the info has never been presented in video form

👍💪

We need more Hemi tests

finally

Im assuming you weren't running stock internals with the Blower? these things bottom ends arent known to hold up very much after 500 hp. If you were, that’s great to hear and impressive tuning.

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

stock bottom end-they will make a lot more than 500 hp

6 rib 3.60 and 3.33 pulleys are less than the stock 3.80 inch GM3800 Gen 2 and 3 Supercharged engine. Good supply to raid 3.8 liter Buick parts....

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

likely different offsets and shaft diameters?

I'd love to see a NA build of the 4.6 3V

@cainadkins3985

2 жыл бұрын

Unless your gonna drop alot of money its never gonna be all that impressive

@johnnikollaj496

2 жыл бұрын

@@cainadkins3985 yeah maybe but it'd be fun to see

@kingssuck06

2 жыл бұрын

@@cainadkins3985 Then why are you here on a video about 3 valves? Go watch a 1 of 4 billion junkyard turbo LS video

@cainadkins3985

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingssuck06 I was just saying that's a 20k dollar motor for like 405 horse power there's a guy that did a breakdown on how much he spent on his 4.6 3v that made just under 400

3v CONTENT!!!!!!

4.9 + She's Real Fine. 3 valve Re-incarnation of the 409 W 16 degree cut block V8...mate....Rhymin' Yet?

@andyharman3022

2 жыл бұрын

Get some kicks. With a Four Point Six!

What engine harness did you use for this engine? From who?

@richardholdener1727

Жыл бұрын

fast

Semi-crazy dyno idea. Set up a pony motor to drive a supercharger which feeds the engine on the dyno. Then stick supercharger onto dyno engine. Will answer the question how much power does a supercharger really take? A bit silly, but fun.

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

WE CAN JUST RUN THE BLOWER ON A BLOWER DYNO

@bobqzzi

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 What fun is that?

0:07 When you let a lovely Chevy guy with a Pen...Loose With A Pen! 409 the world...007 = Mr Stoner I pressume!

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

That was Tom-we agreed the valve cover looked like a 409

75 shot for my 3v!🏁

@salisburysteve3104

2 жыл бұрын

Dude nice. Who does your tuning?

@63Imp283

2 жыл бұрын

@@salisburysteve3104 sorry, it's on my to do list!

174k awesome

Dare you to add the nitrous after the exhaust and before the turbo........ Boost lag is history.

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

THIS WASN'T A TURBO

Would love to see some 1UZ-FE content!

What makes more power my Mom on meth or My dog on steroids. "LETS FIND OUT"

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

YOUR MOM?

Personally I blame squirrels

These didn’t get much love because cam phasers would blow out of the front and rods couldn’t handle much torque it wasn’t a good staring point im surprised with the nitrous you didn’t lose an eye

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

people said the same thing about the 2V rods

Don't buy a 3v

@deanstevenson6527

2 жыл бұрын

Spark plug access is okay if you know how they can be removed if broken

@AndyFromm

2 жыл бұрын

@@deanstevenson6527 I am a ford guy. The 3v's had to many issues to deal with when there are better options, kinda like the 6.0 powerstroke.

@deanstevenson6527

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyFromm Best thing is how unleaned on and cheaper the 3V is. Down here, the 5.4 3V is found on many BA and BF Fairmont Ghia's and its so much easier to access in a big four door sedan than a very tall F150 or Avi. Great opportunity to hunt with just a 175 shot of Nitrous. Hunt trophy in the weekend, then drive Joe cool to work in a dowdy Four Door Fairmont Ghia...Sell the 4 liter Barra 183 to Richard, and import the forlorn 4.6 3V. The 4.6 is tiny, light, sweet and street neat...

@salisburysteve3104

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyFromm Dude I can get a 3v for $800. Whats the better option, a yote for 4x the price?

@AndyFromm

2 жыл бұрын

@@salisburysteve3104 I have a whole 5.4v truck here pretty clean I got for $1k. Rattles something fierce