Thanks for the 2v love Richard

@kyleschilkey8051

4 жыл бұрын

would be fun to see a stock shortblock in your car with the current turbo setup. that would be the ultimate torture test. haha. 60' before inspection window?

@jakob9984

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Lavender love ur vids man

@markball7028

4 жыл бұрын

Watch your videos regularly. I always had a thing for the under dog. And the 4.6 2V is definitely an underdog in today’s world .Glad the aftermarket has stepped up a little. Like tickflow coming out with some race port 195cc heads now. 👍

@pantherplatform

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Lavender the 4.6 2v king.

@cowboy117j

3 жыл бұрын

You two give me awful ideas🤣. Got a stock pi2v in my Capri running on terminator x and an on3 84/75.

I Love 2V's I have built a 304" 2V 13 to 1 compression Carbed with Nitrous that runs 8.90's @ 160mph in the 1/4. We won the Mod Nationals twice with this combo... So they can be made to run!

@andrewlavender08

4 жыл бұрын

Unity MotorSports Garage fancy seeing u here

@UnityMotorSportsGarage

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewlavender08 what's up brother! How is that Monster 2V of yours running? Everyone meet the guy who took the crown from us!

@andrewlavender08

4 жыл бұрын

Unity MotorSports Garage pretty good, itching to get it on the track after all this virus craziness is over

@richardholdener1727

4 жыл бұрын

That's Stout

@ForcedfedFords

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, 2 of the fastest 2v owners commenting on this vid. I am humbled to be in y'alls presence lol.

Would definitely be interested in seeing a big bang 2v, also 4.6 vs 5.4 comparisons.

@MrAPCProductions

4 жыл бұрын

This needs to be a reality. Needs. There have to be twice as many 4.6 2vs sitting around doing nothing that need to see some boost examples. Like at exactly what point do the rods fold, if you replace rods, when do the pistons shatter? Supposedly the crank is good for the end of the block. Purely a vote, but I suggest 4.6 from a panther because itll probably be the cheapest. Itll be iron and it will have the worst parts of almost any of them.

@ryanjones48

4 жыл бұрын

There is a lot of 2v 5.4s as well

@daviddavis1322

4 жыл бұрын

Make 800hp, and watch people start putting 4.6's into new edge mustangs to replace their LS setup.

@JesusSaves86AB

4 жыл бұрын

Oh lord yes, a BB 5.4

@erict1144

2 жыл бұрын

I’m doing it now boys. God has chosen me to revive this 154k 99

This man is a saint!! I have searched the internet high and low for fab and build channels that play with the 2v and nobody touches them with a 6 foot pole! I'd love to see you blow one up for science

@tashawegmueller1866

2 жыл бұрын

Sean Hyland was the go to guy for years

@erict1144

2 жыл бұрын

Please.

the 2v 4.6 was actually used from 1991-2014, 23 year production run

@HomiesOfMars

4 жыл бұрын

Yea he forgot about the Vic's and I assume they still used it in trucks after 2011

@RipleyxReactive

Жыл бұрын

Yea I have a 2008 with a 2v 4.6

@gk5891

4 ай бұрын

Triton 2V Engines Last Year Available E-Series Vans (Cutaway and Chassis Cab only 2015+) 4.6L 2V - 2014 5.4L 2V - 2016 6.8L 2V V10 - 2019

just shared with a coworker who's swapping a 2 valve.

@timothybolden9955

4 жыл бұрын

Adam Flowers swapping into what?

@C6Z_Bob

4 жыл бұрын

@@timothybolden9955 Hopefully he's ditching the 2V for an LS.

@robinesavage404

4 жыл бұрын

@@C6Z_Bob he said coworker, not douchebag....

I've never hated the 4.6 2 valve engines but I was never crazy about them, until now. With trick flow heads, built bottom end and more boost you can go even further with these things. Love this vid and thanks for shining more light on the little mod motor.

I am an unabashed hater of the Ford mod motors. You blew me away with the h/c/i 4.6 combo. I was NOT expecting so much power nor such a beautiful curve from an NA 4.6. Keep up the great work Richard!

@RyTrapp0

4 жыл бұрын

It's easy to complain about an engine not being able to make any power when no one ever actually TRIES to make power from it

@deanstevenson6527

3 жыл бұрын

Colton Robinson and RyTrapp0 : Ford learned from what it did with the Cosworth Belt Drive A and DFV and DFX and Cleveland engines, which were 3.78 and 4.38 bore spacing engines spat out from the same basic mass production transfer line. Even the Hart 850 hp alloy BDT and Cosworth alloy DFX Indy Cart 850 hp and NASCAR 351W/C engines were essentially almost a mass produced aftermarket race engine cobbled up from Fords iron engine base. The basic Mod engine is a pizza base. Ford had other engines on the 3.937 inch spacing Mod platform that made awesome ZR1 Corvette quad cam and more power. The 281 cuber iron 2V was just a door stop that sold in REAL volume and stopped people buying Celicas , Scions and spindly rod 4.7 Tundras.Fords pizza base plus approach ment the eventual alloy block 4.6, 5.0 and Ford GT 5.4 Four Valver stuff also goes right on any iron block base. Its basics are sound, the crack off powdered rods are going to be okay on a dyno, not in the real world. But remember the Holdener 1046 hp 5.8 liter turbo truck F150 engine which used stock 5.936 inch Windsor forged rods. Epic Fail! The 4.6 liter...it should have been born a 5 liter instead of a 4.6 from birth. Ford had decided to make the Teskid Cammer its lead halo engine. The single cam per bank 4.6 was born 15% down on power and torque from birth. Ford did that on purpose. It sold more of them that way.

@enermaxstephens1051

Жыл бұрын

So does that prove that you never knew what you were talking about?

I had a 03 gt with a kenne bell back in ‘05 .Thing was an absolute animal on the street, torque for days! Interesting content and comparisons, keep’em coming Richard!👍

Big bang please, love the 2v stuff.

this is the most scientific and well explained video on this topic I've seen! Everything taken into account between camshaft differences and two different types of superchargers. Awesome explanation and it took a lot of work and testing to give us this information. Hats off.

I asked you in the past for these videos and you said it’s coming,,, A man of his word !!!! Your awesome dude

4.6, 2 valve Smaller displacement v8 with a short stroke. These engines with a few basic improvements can have a very broad range of power and these suckers rev up. Andrew lavender has a built 2v on boost, turbo, and he beats the piss out of that car. I think he said his rev limit is right about 8,100-8,200 on pump E85 in his earlier days. I'm a huge fan of the 2v engines. Simple, very durable and they sound good. By far one of the best budget engines to work with for both simplicity and they are tough. Definitely do a big bang 4.6, but keep it as budget minded as possible as that's why guys buy these because they're so inexpensive and easy to find. Let's see what kind of numbers you can get out of them before the rods, pistons, bearings or block, maybe a slurry of all of the above. Lol

@Seethenhagen

4 жыл бұрын

I think there is some irony in a short stroke overhead cam engine being unable to rev beyond 5500 rpm

@muffdiver777yummy8

4 жыл бұрын

its honestly not that short of stroke its pretty decent

@setharnold3699

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I love the 4.6 and they are the best sounding engines. I was shocked this 2 valve put down as much horsepower and more torque than the 01’ 4 valve he tested with the different intakes.

@wyattyeary8050

2 жыл бұрын

Two valves are small bore engines. The stroke is similar to other v8s. They just run out of cylinder head or they would rev higher.

@TheRoadhammer379

5 ай бұрын

there's nothing simple and a mod motor. A 351w is simple, an LS is simple, Ford mod engines are not simple with 2 chains, 2 cams etc

Perfect timing! Just picked up a 2003 GT 2v car yesterday and was wondering about this exact info! Thanks Richard!

Dude, you got the best dyno videos. Most all of your combos are attainable by the average blue collar worker with a need for speed.

That na heads cam version actually put down pretty good numbers at reasonable rpm. I was impressed. Would be a nice street engine.

@tondaporter3709

4 жыл бұрын

With the ported heads they used, I wish they would've used a .550 lift instead of the .500". They would've seen even better #'s. I definitely agree with what you said.

@setharnold3699

3 жыл бұрын

Tonda Porter crazy that this 2 valve had as much horsepower and more torque than the 01’ 4 valve he tested with the different intakes.

I enjoyed watching this video; Finally the 2v got some love!!!.......SBE 2V testing would be an awesome idea for a future video!!!

I had a 4.6 in a F150. It's a great engine. It certainly never let me down. And always ran good

13lbs of boost out of my 2.1 kenne bell took out number 2 connecting rod. Won’t have that problem ever again. Great video Richard

Please continue studying this motor, I'm sure this will be a hit because of how much coyote and ls swap cost. (Yes I'm planning to use this for my cheap build.) This is like a d series over the b series competition. Subscribed.

It would be great to see a turbo on this engine!!! Hook us up Richard 😀😀😀👍👍👍

Been watching the videos since you started, love to rewatch older stuff kind of like reruns lol! Thank you!

@richardholdener1727

10 ай бұрын

thnx for watching

I'm red/green colorblind. Your graphs are hard to see on my phone, but ,I can follow . Love your tests. Thank you, sir.

It's a blessing that you've done this video, thank you so much!

Great video, great motor. They can make some serious power if setup properly. Severely underrated

Thanks for showing love to the old 2v's I have a 2004 Mustang GT in competition Orange. Full bolt on n/a ....... for now hopefully boost by next year

Just became a subscriber a few weeks ago. Just wanted to tell you I really enjoy your videos and you do an awesome job.

@richardholdener1727

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

My 2010 F-150 single cab/ short bed truck have a 4.6 2v engine. It is a very reliable and powerful engine...I love it...

I think this is an excellent test and comparison. Point VERY well made. Thank you sir!

NOPE. The 2 valve is A SAINT and a WARRIOR. NOW, the 3 VALVE, no matter what size . . . THAT IS A GENUINE P.O.S. Dude, you always deliver ! Still haven't watch a video from you that made my jump to something else. Good work, Sir ! 👌🏻😎👍🏻

@richardholdener1727

4 жыл бұрын

Thnx-I have some 3V tests too

Incredible info in a ten minute videos, thank you very much !!

comp cam , PI head , and intake plus supercharger to the non PI motor is the ticket ! Thankz for the info famz!

Awsome as always! I would love to see a SBE test with Trick flow heads and boost big bang style! It was kind of done once before but they stopped early saying they thought the rods would fail...but they hadn't yet I say let them fail! Let's find the limit

I love the torque output on these little guys.

Ford tech for 22 years. Lots of 2V. I love them.

2v 4.6’s are great engine’s. Ford was still using them in 2010 I have a 2010 F-150 rolled off the line with a 4.6 2v. Most trucks 09-10 f150’s received the 5.4 and 4.6 3v. But the simple reliable 4.6 2v was still an option even in 2010.

@Evanb1234

3 жыл бұрын

Frr I have a 2010 ford f150 single cab 2v and it feels pretty good for a daily , not slow but not fast because they changed our transmission In 08 they had the 4r70w and in 2009 2010 they put the transmission from 5.4 3v 4r75e on my our truck 2v

@Upliftyourbrothers

2 жыл бұрын

@@Evanb1234 my 2003 5.4 2v has a 4r100 and a 10.25 rear end. It runs on natural gas which has 120 octane equivalent. I want to do a high compression (15:1?) n/a motor. Not sure if it’s been done.

@Yophillips3272

2 жыл бұрын

All crown vics from 92 till 2011 have 2v's. It's kind of interesting how little most people know about cars, I've had people ask the oddest questions is that a v6? What does that have in it a 302, is that a big block? Is that the police interceptor motor? 🤦‍♂️

@icemachines69

Жыл бұрын

My 2010 F-150 single cab/ short bed truck have a 4.6 2v engine...it is a very reliable and powerful engine...I love it...

I have 4.6L Fox body body with a procharger and cams. It made 440whp/400wtq when it was in my 2001. 15* of timing on 93. Works excellent and pulls like a freight train.

Richard can you do a video on how you prep a shortblock for boost. Rings to bearings to gaskets. Thanks brotha channels great!!

All in for a 4.6 Big Bang series!

Good stuff man and yeah finding engine component limitations would be cool no matter the engine. I think most people like seeing cheaper easy to find engines pushed to their limits more than race or purpose built engines. Especially if their less commonly used i.e. smaller v8 or 6 cylinder truck engines.

The reason they made so many of the 2V engines is because they run for ever if you don't mess with them. As long as the intake manifold doesn't leak, unmolested 2Vs will run for well over 150,000 miles

Hell yeah a big bang 2v would be awesome!

Dude your the MAN. Love your videos. Great stuff. The best on KZread.

It's been a year. Still the best.

Most of my company’s E250s are 4.6L 2 valves with over 200,000 miles and still going 🤙🏽!!!!!

13 years is a long time? You must be younger than me. Lol. Like the channel.

All I gotta say is that is one tough motor. I drove on 7 cylinders for months before I got around to doing a tune up. Didn't break down once!

@shaneomac5074

2 жыл бұрын

The tritons are tough as nails, my dad has a 5.4 with 240,000 miles on it stock motor and transmission, he treats it like shit, never changes oil or does any maintenance whatsoever, and drives like the Indy 500 everywhere he goes, those trucks were just built to go, they have no quit in em, my 97 4.6 runs like a dream

Great vid! Love my 2008 GT/CS. Looking forward to boosting it! 🐎

My wife’s 2005 exploder 4.6 takes barely a touch of the throttle and it takes off almost the same as full throttle. Ferd has some whacked throttle response tuning. I’d seriously consider heads and a cam to bring it to the NA numbers you found, but the trans would pack its lunch the first day. Lol. Cool video - thanks!

Richard your awesome! A total badass! A national treasure! Those other dingbats ain't got nothing on you man. If I was in the same shop I'd do somersaults every time you put a new engine on the Dyno

@richardholdener1727

7 ай бұрын

it is fun

the kenny bell setup would be really nice in a truck. That much torque, for that long would be a towing beast.

That is impressive how much torque that little engine is capable of. I can understand why someone would want to invest a little time and money into one in a light truck application but also glaringly obvious why so many have been replaced with LS's of every flavour.

Excellent work! Very well done and informative!😎

I traded in my 99 Expedition with 380k miles on it. The only thing wrong with it was the transmission had started to slip pretty bad. Would have liked a little more power when in the mountains when it was loaded down with friends and gear, but it always got me there. I miss that vehicle a lot.

A big bang 2v would be cool to see. Put the higher lift cams in it from comp with those ported heads and PI intake with the accufab throttle and 2 massive turbos and see what's up. I think it could achieve in the same ball park as the 4.8 LS or maybe even the 5.3? Ultimate mythbuster you are mate. Keep up the good work

@jarrusjenkins

4 жыл бұрын

@@hendo337 in terms of power or breaking point?

Definitely would like to see a big bang 4.6 2v. Thanks for making this video, I have a 98 gt pi swapped, swapped it 12 years ago and was always scared to go with any kind of forced induction, think I might use this stimulus to stimulate my car, lol

@michaelharris748

3 жыл бұрын

Man dont be scared of forced induction just make sure you get it tuned good by someone who knows those engines and use good fuel. You can run 400 whp (which is alot more than you currently have) for a long time with good fuel and tuning.

Everytime I see this video it makes my day.

We are literally dyno running a 4.6 2v P.I. with the Eagle forged stroker kit, stock cams, and the exact some KB blower in the next week or so on chassis dyno, will be very interesting to compare those numbers to what you got here. Thanks for the video and knowledge!

I’m impressed Richard!

Best engine channel KZread!

I just got a 03 Mustang 2v can’t wait to cam it

love this video series because I just bought a 1997 Mercury Cougar XR7 with this engine: 4.6l SOHC v8.

I just bought ho tuners new tuner, my crown Vic thanks you for this video

thats awesome thanks for looking at the 2 valve stuff

Love the ford modular content!

Nice content this channel find the way to make stronger a weak 4.6 2valve

Old video I know, but thanks. I'm walking through your Mod-motor playlist now. IMO the SN95 Mustang is the place to be right now for a cheap, vintage performance car. It's at the right point in the depreciation curve, Fox-bodies are already headed up. The SN95 is a significant improvement over the Fox in every way except the controversial styling (which I happen to like) and the limited power of the 4.6L 2V engine. The 4V engined models are never going to get into the "cheap" category, so that leaves figuring out how to make power with the 2V.

Awesome video this gives me an idea what I can do with my 2 valve

Very impressive torque curve with blower

I love this engine, mine is built with a hellion kit and made 535whp at 14lbs of boost on a mustang dyno. I'm estimating 630whp on a dynojet. These engines also make better torque than the 4 valve engines.

@henrikmeyer9692

3 жыл бұрын

Do you use the Stock pistons? Did you decrease your comp ratio before boosting it that much? My 2v blew up because the Former owner Did a saleen supercharger upgrade and i think He Did shit😅 now im looking for a New engine to put the charger on and i want it to last 💪

@TheJMan1K

Жыл бұрын

@@henrikmeyer9692find whatever low mile 2V you can and just do a basic rebuild on it. Replace the springs, lifters, etc…port the heads if you want, add longtubes, and use Gen 2 coyote rods with some drop in pistons. Will hold 550-600whp all day.

@GTkyle

4 ай бұрын

​@@TheJMan1Kso the gen 2 coyote rods drop right in with no modifications necessary? Same journal sizing and everything?

@TheJMan1K

4 ай бұрын

@@GTkyle yes. Exact same specs. My buddy is building an engine for his 98 GT using a 99 cobra block, 03 Cobra crank, Gen yote rods, and PI heads with some comp cams. Will be mated to a TKX. He has an old Kennebell 2.1 setup. He should be making 600whp with 12-13 pounds.

@GTkyle

4 ай бұрын

@@TheJMan1K that's amazing. The general consensus from back in the day is the 6 bolt crank is good to 600. I'd almost just want to do rods and pistons in an explorer WAP block. I appreciate the info!

Super interesting, never realized they could handle that much power. I’d love to see a turbo test and see what the limit of the stock engine is.

Nice test , I’m going to stop throwing rocks at those engines from now on .

Had a 98 gt and threw on SVO/FRPP blower with 9-10lb pulley. Dr gas mid pipe. Fun fun.

Loved this video. I'm building a npi block with pi heads and a procharger

These vids are awesome. All I was looking for is 450hp. Gonna try to replicate this setup.

A Big Bang 4.6 2v test would be awesome! A lot of people saying 400-450whp is the limit and I would like to know what fails. They always say rods fail but I wonder if that’s to weak rods in general or if it’s ring gap. So many 2vs out there some legit testing would be sweet

@SouthernBoy337

Жыл бұрын

Pistons seem to fail forst

Just picked up a 97 f150 reg cab 4.6, 5 speed to build later.. good info! Should make a good work truck..☕😎

That's the one thing I love about the 4.6 2v engine is that it doesn't take alot of money to make good reliable hp

Good content Richard! Thank you!

The KB setup looks like the best behaving. Flat torque, compact package.

@OgamiItto70

4 жыл бұрын

Amen. Throttle response. Like right now.

@xXxNECROMONGERxXx

3 жыл бұрын

Very expensive, though.

Yessssss please do more 2v!!!!

Gotta love that flat torque line ----------- on the twin screw. Be great if you were running at an 1/8 mile track!

@Spad68

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome for a boat too

Fun fact: Ford does not have an actual verified production number for the amount of 2v engines manufactured. They have Precise data on how many and which vehicles had the 2v installed, and they have precise data for how many 4.6 blocks were used, but they do not have a fully accurate number for how many 2v engines they actually made.

I believe your right Richard, the last motor Ford produced nearly as long as the 2v was the flat head (in production 20 years) where the 2v was 24 years (1990-2014)

My neighbor has a gt with a 2valve. He has a kenne bell s.c. on it and he puts nearly 500 to the tire. No b.s.. I drove it, she's fast!!

@marcowilliams4801

4 жыл бұрын

Shit I got my ass best by a 2v pushing 640 to the wheels

@cantonracer1

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcowilliams4801 With the internet and KZread videos, people forget how fast 500+rwhp cars really are...especially when they are setup tight.

@19jody72

4 жыл бұрын

@@cantonracer1 I rode in a 500hp street car..it felt like a pro mod!

@MM_45

3 жыл бұрын

Jason Max even 300HP feels fast

@mikemartenson4357

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcowilliams4801 🏎

They made more 2 valves. I have a 97 f150. Date on truck is 07/96 so it's a 97. 320k miles and runs clean. Best motor I've ever had. I've had jealous people try to blow my motor and sabotage it.

They actually made the 2v much later then 04 in the e series vans and crown vic’s. Id love to see more on the ford mod stuff. Im currently building a junkyard 4v for my marauder with a vortech. And all the ford guys say its going to puke rods at my 500whp level.

Actually that seams pretty easy to more then double the power of a small v8 4.6L. Respect

@Richard Holdener - Hey Rich, they actually continued to use them in the Mercury Grand Marquis beyond 2004. I pulled a 4.6 2v out of a 2006 Grand Marquis and dropped it into my 01' GT. If I am not mistaken that 2v engine was used until around 2010 or something like that. One thing for sure - they sound absolutely amazing!

@keegentilley578

8 ай бұрын

Until 2011 in crown vics

Amazing! I'm using this motor for an f150 build I'm doing. I got my 4.6 from an 03 grand marquis and will be attempting port the heads and adapt a 03-04 cobra eaton supercharger to it. I'd love to see what the stock bottom end can handle or what changes should be made to promote long term engine health hoping for 450-500 hp with maximum drivability.

thanks for spreading the knowledge out there

The rods do bend pretty easy... my 95 tbird developed a knock.. sitting over winter.. I started it up in spring.. knocking... The #8 connector rod bent... causing the piston skirt hitting the counter balance on the crank.... tore it down and gonna rebuild it.. but trying which route I wanna go... so all ur info is helping

I saw a 2v Lincoln limo put down 620 at the tire with a kenne bell at Dez Racing in MA. I want a crown Vic now. Already got coyote and a foxbody

One of the 2V's major design flaws was the plastic coolant crossover. Since the timing chain covers block the front of the engine, Ford couldn't move the crossover down into the water pump casting, as GM did with the Gen 3 (LS). This is why the LS has 2 coolant holes on each leg of the water pump - the top ones function as the crossover since those 2 holes make 90 degree angles once in the block to connect the head water passages. Random factoid....

I have a town car with the 4.6L 2 valve. 200k and sounds buttery smooth.

Please make more 2v videos. We love 2v

Never fails thanks rich!

Richard you're forgetting Ford used 4.6 2V in F-150 till 2009 & the Crown Vic till 2011. As a City Fleet Tech we purchased these up to the end of 2011.

Thats epic! i always thought these got a bad rap... that and it always made me angry they never did a side by side 2v 4.6 vs the 4.8 LS in big bang fashion because i think their limits are relatively similar on an engine dyno. I'd also like to see a 2v 4.6 with boss 302 rods out of a coyote.

Good video very informative keep up the great work😉