How To Get The PERFECT First Layer on Your 3D Prints

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May 2024 Update - • How To Get The PERFECT...
Getting a smooth, consistent first layer of plastic to stick to your print bed is one of the most important aspects of FDM 3D printing. There is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding about this out there so allow me to attempt to demystify it for you.
00:00 4 fundamentals
00:44 Bed Adhesion
05:10 Bed Level
07:05 Z or nozzle offset
11:12 Slicer setting

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  • @GodisWithUsMinistries
    @GodisWithUsMinistries6 ай бұрын

    FINALLY someone who actually helps with the z offset

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    6 ай бұрын

    Glad to be of help!

  • @GodisWithUsMinistries

    @GodisWithUsMinistries

    6 ай бұрын

    @@designbydave you deserve tons of subscribers. Thanks for this

  • @katt4787
    @katt4787 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you SO MUCH, there are so many junk videos out there for explaining z-offset, you explained it beautifully and really helped me fix my prints. +1 subscriber.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @lamb212
    @lamb21210 күн бұрын

    Wow, great video. Comprehensive and so well presented. Thanks, I learnt so much :)

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    10 күн бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @YetiCaveMedia
    @YetiCaveMedia Жыл бұрын

    Ok, this was a great video. Explaining the exact shape of the nozzle distance issues is what I needed. It made it all click. Most people just show a picture and say too close too far. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @tristanw8865
    @tristanw8865 Жыл бұрын

    Oh man, exactly the video I needed! I had those tiger stripes rippling through my first layer. It was a struggle to find a video with exactly this problem. Thanks for making this video.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @911Hammer

    @911Hammer

    2 ай бұрын

    Agree.. best video out there on this topic! ❤ it!

  • @PrincessPumprnickle
    @PrincessPumprnickle Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video! I have been trying to print a part with small holes for mounting and was having problems with warping and decreased adhesion around the small areas on the first layer. Increasing the bed temp, decreasing print speed, and adjusting the z-offset in real time while watching the first layer was just the trick I needed. Again thank you so much!

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    So glad to help!

  • @WolfgerSilberbaer
    @WolfgerSilberbaer2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for some good examples. Nozzle too close to print bed is 100% my issue.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @mgrantom
    @mgrantom Жыл бұрын

    Very succinct. This helped me a bunch. Thanks!

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to help

  • @gravis00
    @gravis00 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. Great explanation and examples

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @SVSky
    @SVSky2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks this is super helpful. Having to learn this through trial and error has been tough.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help! Yeah it can be tricky to isolate variables, especially as those variables change with materials, and even part geometry. Lots of people post online "WhAt'S WRonG wIth My prINT?" without taking the time to investigate. And then the responses are often less then helpful.

  • @martyj5538
    @martyj5538 Жыл бұрын

    Showing examples of bad z offset was super helpful!

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear!

  • @turtletuga1785
    @turtletuga1785 Жыл бұрын

    ❤ Thank you so much great video

  • @UzunKamis
    @UzunKamis11 ай бұрын

    Important points, thank you.

  • @sahhull
    @sahhull28 күн бұрын

    If you have an Ender3. Dont expect your bed to be flat. Mine are lower in the middle. I fixed it by sticking some alu tape to the magnetic surface. It shimmed up the middle enough to level it.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    26 күн бұрын

    That's pretty much going to be the case for most print beds. I made an updated video where I talk about that a bit, and the need for a probe to compensate. Your idea for mechanically "flattening" the bed sounds like something worth trying as well.

  • @domlebel
    @domlebel2 ай бұрын

    your a boss man !! thanks a lot

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad it helped

  • @grayparagon4164
    @grayparagon41642 жыл бұрын

    I liked how you kept it VERY quick and beginner friendly for those slicer settings that help with first layer. I think this is a missing link for me thats gonna help beyond just touching that bed all the time.. prolly too much messing with the whole 4 corner bed leveling for my own good.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @xxxfreshman
    @xxxfreshman Жыл бұрын

    Thx, i have a silicon carbide glass Plate, and this is amazing, it holds everything ABD PETG PLA, without problem, only thing is that you have to wait until it has Room Temperature, but believe me it made my life in 3D Printing much easier.

  • @xxxfreshman

    @xxxfreshman

    Жыл бұрын

    And now my Printer prints mostly every time, directly after cleaning the plate with alcohol. No Spray nothing, i have a CR10-S with BL- Touch double Gear, full metal headend and a Ruby Crystal Printhead. 🙂

  • @robodelux
    @robodelux7 ай бұрын

    Great information, I will have to try hairspray.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    6 ай бұрын

    A slight update to this, I might suggest trying Magigoo adhesive as possibly a better alternative. I haven't tried it with PETG, but with PLA its great. They also make nylon and polycarbonate specific versions which work perfectly. They are all water soluble so they wash off the part and build plate easily.

  • @shaun8309
    @shaun8309 Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to follow your advise! I'll give some feedback soon. Just got a Ender 6, small parts print perfectly, but larger parts not so good.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a lot a play with larger parts other then the first layer to consider. Material warp as it prints, supports etc. However a good first layer is critical.

  • @shaun8309

    @shaun8309

    Жыл бұрын

    @@designbydave Shot man. I'm pulling my hair out from frustration. But I'm sure I'll get eventually. Thinking now that I have never set my z axis home adjustment screw when assembling the printer.

  • @tomwilliams2753
    @tomwilliams275310 ай бұрын

    thank you for problem solving advice that saved me. Go halve the manufactures temperatures range. 10 degrees between crap and strawberries. thank you.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad it helped

  • @acondi4853
    @acondi48532 жыл бұрын

    Hi David, awesome video! just wandering if you had a video about insulating the inside of your ender 6? and why you did it? Thanks, keep up the awesome vids!

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey thanks for checking it out! I don't have a video about the insulation and I put that in after I made my main Ender-6 video. I just lined the inside with cheap, garage door insulation, held on with double sided tape. The insulation keeps the enclosure warm, not quite as warm as a proper heated enclosure, but warm enough to print challenging materials like ABS, ASA and Polycarbonate. See my video about printing carbon fiber PC for more on that - kzread.info/dash/bejne/aIR9p6hypbqxg6Q.html

  • @acondi4853

    @acondi4853

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@designbydave thank you very much. I have already watched that video. it’s awesome!

  • @naidol
    @naidol Жыл бұрын

    Best common sense explanation on the internet. Thanks 👍

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @ScottWinterringer

    @ScottWinterringer

    5 ай бұрын

    yet this is a trained item.... so how was it common sense...

  • @ApolloFX_CZ
    @ApolloFX_CZ Жыл бұрын

    soo thanks to you i now know my Z offset was too low ..... thank you very much

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help

  • @JDMRaw
    @JDMRaw2 жыл бұрын

    my first layer on my ender 3 v 2 while printing a lithophane box had good squish and great adheasion, the only issue i had was the lines of each pass were just barely touching like fine hair, just missing eachother. if i pull the first layer off and looked through it, it would be like looking out of cosplay white eyes. so that first layer at .2 layer hight making it .25 may work. thank you

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 жыл бұрын

    What you're describing usually means that the z offset is too high, however in that case you would likely have very poor adhesion. I would first check that you are extruding properly. Calibrate esteps and then flow %. Also check the extrusion width in your slicer. I'm usually at 0.45mm width for a 0.4mm nozzle.

  • @JDMRaw

    @JDMRaw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@designbydave zoffset is good, bed is level. I’ll have to check the width. How do you calibrate flow? I have my Esteps calibrated.

  • @JDMRaw

    @JDMRaw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@designbydave also my extrusion widths are set as percentages. I’m using super slicer. It does a pretty good job. It’s just. You can use % or mm to justify settings.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JDMRaw calibrate flow percent (Prusaslice3r calls it "extrusion multiplier) by printing a small, single or double perimeter, hollow object and measure the wall thickness. It should be the extrusion width specified in your settings. If not, adjust multiplier accordingly.

  • @kibagami25
    @kibagami257 ай бұрын

    I've heard people use G10 and G11 sometimes. This material is great and has high heat levels.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes those can be great from what I here.

  • @whoarewenow
    @whoarewenow5 ай бұрын

    thank you for explanation! but what if right bottom of the bed is too far and in the same time left up - is tooo close while testing? How can i proceed here without any adjustable knobs on corners? ender v3 ke, autoleveling and auto z offset

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure I understand. Your printer should still have a way to mechanically level the bed before doing the auto leveling

  • @whoarewenow

    @whoarewenow

    5 ай бұрын

    @designbydave no, in new Creality printers there is no manual knobs anymore. Ender v3 KE, CR 10 se, K1 - nope. Everything on bed sensor

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    5 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure about those printers. There must be a way to mechanically level the bed to a "good enough" state before the auto calibration. I suspect that is done at the factory before shipping. Perhaps your printer is mechanically too far from level that the auto calibration can't compensate. You will need to look into a specific leveling procedure / workflow for your printer. @@whoarewenow

  • @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf
    @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf2 ай бұрын

    Hello I have a question I’m kinda new to 3d printing and I’m not sure if it’s normal or not that’s why I came here but the bottom of my 3d print I feel like it’s too visible and has a lot of lines pls help me! Thanks.

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    2 ай бұрын

    The appearance of the bottom of your print will depend on the print bed surface. If it's smooth, you should expect to see the extrusion pattern (lines.) A textured bed will help to hide those lines.

  • @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf

    @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf

    2 ай бұрын

    @@designbydavehey I don’t get it Do u have insta so I can show u a pic of what I mean?

  • @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf

    @EbrahimAlzaabi-jd7nf

    2 ай бұрын

    @@designbydavepls answer man your the only hope I got.

  • @F1v30h1
    @F1v30h17 ай бұрын

    Seems that my temperatures are across the board 10 degrees higher then want is recommended by the manufacturer. New to 3d printing so not sure what to make of it…

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    7 ай бұрын

    As long as you are getting desirable print results, that shouldn't be an issue. Could be that your thermistors are not that accurate which wouldn't be unheard of considering these mostly cheap, mass produced components in consumer level 3d Printers.

  • @1937Brett
    @1937Brett Жыл бұрын

    How do u access the printer settings on the pc

  • @learnthrivecompassion422

    @learnthrivecompassion422

    7 ай бұрын

    The settings are in the slicer. I use the slicer Cura.

  • @1937Brett
    @1937Brett Жыл бұрын

    The 1st one happened to me on a new bed I had to heat my bed plate more

  • @paulcole1171
    @paulcole1171 Жыл бұрын

    the problem I am have is that the first layer is not coming away from my project any ideas to why please

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    "first layer not coming away from my project" What? More details please

  • @paulcole1171

    @paulcole1171

    Жыл бұрын

    @@designbydave The initial first layer that goes onto the bed before the project starts on top of it which is fine and it sticks to the bed nicely but when the project is finished and I try to remove or seperate the first layer or bed layer from the project it is stuck fast to the project and very hard to remove

  • @Mindless_One

    @Mindless_One

    Жыл бұрын

    @@paulcole1171 Let the Bed cool down before trying to remove the part,,, if its still stuck hard and won't come off,,, remove part and build plate ( i assume your using Glass or some type of removable plate) and put it the Fridge or Freezer for a while -,

  • @jaycurtis213
    @jaycurtis213 Жыл бұрын

    Are u active

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @MegaTechnoteacher
    @MegaTechnoteacher10 ай бұрын

    Bed Traming not leveling

  • @designbydave

    @designbydave

    10 ай бұрын

    Ok

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