How to DESTROY Anyone in an Argument
Philosophers are often thought of as truth-seekers, but often people are more interested in the mucky world of simple debate, and there is a sardonic, sarcastic essay by Schopenhauer that can help us out here - "On the Art of Being Right". In here he compiles a series of tactics used (often highly dishonestly) to secure victory in an argument even when one is misinformed, or just downright wrong. And this is just what we will look at today, so that we can learn how to destroy anyone in an argument. And also, why we probably shouldn't
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00:00 The Art of Being Right
01:32 "So What You're Saying Is..."
03:43 "What I'm Saying is..."
06:02 Endless Questions
09:09 Control the Metaphors
13:05 The "Strength" of Common Sense
15:36 Interru-
17:14 Make Your Opponent Angry
19:04 Toss a Word Salad
21:14 Miscellaneous Pointers
23:18 The Lessons of Deceit
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@Hydra27real
7 күн бұрын
No replied
@technoblademc7233
6 күн бұрын
Like if ur not gay 👇
@jamesrichardson1684
6 күн бұрын
You should make a video that tells people how to combat logical fallacies like this
@Baconzilla01
3 күн бұрын
Soooo should I send this to my debate team?
@TypicalOven
Күн бұрын
What if they're a discord packer
what if they have a knife
@michaelmcdoesntexist1459
17 күн бұрын
You bring a gun.
@definitelyhuman4510
15 күн бұрын
@@michaelmcdoesntexist1459what if they have a gun?
@animelord7487
15 күн бұрын
@@definitelyhuman4510 Use a grenade
@michaelmcdoesntexist1459
15 күн бұрын
@@definitelyhuman4510 then you bring a second gun a a homie ready to fire it
@PikRabbit
15 күн бұрын
You tell them to look over THERE
People who use this win arguments: 🤓 People who use this to recognize disingenuous debating tactics and avoid using them themselves: 🗿
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Precisely!!
@richardlyman2961
Ай бұрын
It’s the opposite
@Sonny_McMacsson
Ай бұрын
In reality:🪦
@enammemberseptember7366
27 күн бұрын
So, you're saying that yellow-skinned cancerous people who wear glasses are intellectually dishonest?
@antonioramnal9800
27 күн бұрын
Love this
Thank you for this. My grandma wont stand a chance
@troyop2790
27 күн бұрын
Go get em tiger!
@arnanthachai5427
24 күн бұрын
You may win in debate but if there is a winner also there is a person who seeks for rematch(in violence)
@TheBleachDemon
14 күн бұрын
Its all fun and games until she pulls out the slipper
@StarryxBu77erfly
13 күн бұрын
U may win against her but the chancla won't stay still
@Zipxa_Raya142
12 күн бұрын
same
politicians learns from bro 💀
@sesaarinen
13 күн бұрын
They wouldn't be there if they didn't knew the tricks. This is all pretty standard, but he presented it all in a very entertaining manner. Kudos to him!
@Immdumb
9 күн бұрын
@@sesaarinen you missed the joke
@sangitaboruah1470
8 күн бұрын
@@sesaarinenhe didn't understand the joke😂😂😂
@sesaarinen
8 күн бұрын
@@Immdumb Apparently yeah 🤣🤣 what was it?
@xSakuraStrawberryx
7 күн бұрын
@sesaarinen haha, no worries you're good. The joke was that, this youtuber, 'Unsolicited Advice' is very smart about winning debates, hence this comment is saying politicians get all their tricks from this youtuber. Have a good one!
"Let's learn how to destroy people with facts and logic... without using either". That has to be the ultimate KZread video hook of all time.
@Hydrax_Real
9 күн бұрын
Frfr if u use logic then your argument = non yapping
@ketchup4471
9 күн бұрын
What if nobody else understands your logic? Then you still appear as the fool
This is why I dislike public debates, as they seem to always be doing these kinds of things. It's never about finding some kind of truth, it's to thrash your opponent and fool the audience into "your truth".
@TWIlktitbliktvim-ty7td
11 күн бұрын
why is it just about public debates why not debates in general ? why not with words in general ?
@nunote2362
11 күн бұрын
@@TWIlktitbliktvim-ty7td because of I'm having a discussion with a friend, there's no audience that we're trying to convince we're right to. A lot of these tactics are meant to steamroll your opponent, and have the audience think you're right, not actually convince the second party of anything. So these tactics are a lot more prevalent when there's an audience to convince. And just, if you're watching a debate, it's a public debate, if it was a private debate, you wouldn't be seeing it. The aforementioned discussion with a friend would be private, but if it was recorded and made public, then it's public.
@LuckyAngel_girl
9 күн бұрын
@@nunote2362 damn that was a good reply
@Vinos-yt
9 күн бұрын
@@nunote2362 Than you can convince your friend using these tricks and making your friend the "audience"
@nunote2362
9 күн бұрын
@@Vinos-yt that doesn't work, because these tactics are quite offensive to the second party. You will not be convincing anyone by asking them pointless questions and not letting them answer, or refusing to listen to their answers. That like saying I'll convince them by plugging my ears and yelling loudly. That's just not how these tactics work, and to say so shows a, frankly staggering lack of understanding of their functionality. See at the end there I used the idea of using larger words to sound smarter and more official, and some people reading may have agreed with me on just that, but all it would've done was make out conversation confrontational, and never would've convinced you. Rather it would make your dog your heels in harder because it's condescending. These strategies are not to convince your opponent, and they never will. They are strictly to make you look like you won to a third party, by shutting down your oppositions ability to make any point that doesn't serve you. If that's how you talk with your friends, then you probably won't have them for long.
Basically, this guy could title the video, "Lying Congressional Style", and be right on the mark.
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
The backup title for this video was "the art of dishonesty" but I thought it was a bit abstract
@morowenidi4621
Ай бұрын
I honestly felt a bit misled by current title. Usually just telling true statements wins anything, you dont really need much else. "The art of dishonesty" feels better.
@Jaeger_Bishop
Ай бұрын
@@morowenidi4621 If true statements won every argument, the various crises within the U.S would have been delt with, instead of sending money to fight foreign wars....one of which is already lost but no one wants to admit.
@rights_are_god_given
Ай бұрын
@@unsolicitedadvice9198A Politicians guide to versions of truth.
@MarkTutorials1
Ай бұрын
@@morowenidi4621 a proverb in my country goes like "a brilliant lie is better than unorganized truth"
the video title should be How to gaslight and get away with it
@evanwillett1635
8 күн бұрын
fr. I want a video on how to fight against somebody using these tactics. It pisses me off when people win arguments without any actual evidence and instead just berate you until you succede.
@rulesmash7990
5 күн бұрын
@@evanwillett1635 that's basically how many arguments work buddy just get over it and focus on something else productive
@squeakermcgee
5 күн бұрын
frfr
My brain went straight to: "I'm dishonest, and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly... stupid," (Captain Jack Sparrow).
@izel_guy3743
13 күн бұрын
I agree with this quote!!
@hayleybrooks04
8 күн бұрын
Ain't that the truth? 😉
"An argument isn't just contradiction." - "Can be" - "An argument is a collection of statements to establish a definite proposition. " - "No it isn't." - "Yes it is! It isn't just contradiction." - "Look, if I'm going to argue with you, I must take up a contrary position." - "But, it isn't just saying, 'No, it isn't'." - "Yes, it is." - "No! It isn't!"
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
"If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another 5 minutes"
@BardovBacchus
Ай бұрын
"I don't want to argue about that." @@unsolicitedadvice9198
@vixendagreece
Ай бұрын
Monty Python, my beloved It seems that arguments are both capable of overwhelming genius And outright comedic idiocy But one thing’s for sure, they forever will remain entertaining
@NotMadeOfManitobaFlour
Ай бұрын
@@vixendagreece Ni!
@grapenut6094
Ай бұрын
@@NotMadeOfManitobaFlour We want.. A shrubbery.
People need to realise that debates are not about winning, they’re about learning. Edit: People in the replies have made me realise that it actually depends on the situation, and that's true. In court, for example, it is about winning. Thank you for correcting me. :)
@minhtrietquach1519
14 күн бұрын
What? Can you explain more of this to me? I kinda understand debate is not to win but understand huh. Maybe understand the other person's perspective perhaps? And learn from it?
@abdulwasay9231
13 күн бұрын
Nah, that would imply I give a shit for their opinion, which I dont.
@TwitterChannelOfficial
13 күн бұрын
i learned that my debate opponent fighter has an AK-47 on his pocket
@sesaarinen
13 күн бұрын
Sometimes it's about learning how utterly dumb the other person really is. (On a more serious note, for a debate actually be about learning it should require both parties have at least similar knowledge over the issue and at that point it's mostly about the perspective)
@fuze9923
13 күн бұрын
true, from experience @@sesaarinen
1. Form a strong argument (the hard part). Understand burden of proof. 2. Memorize all fallacies. 3. Point out any fallacies used by opponent. 4. Focus the conversation; don’t let them divert to another topic. Call them out when they’re being disingenuous. Put them on the spot. Follow those steps and your opponent is forced to argue on merit. Sprinkle some charisma and theatrics, and you won’t have any issues. Persuasion Tactics don’t work when someone not only knows them but also has the better argument. It’s why no amount of cheap tricks will get a flat earther to win a debate. 😉
@ukkisragee9983
11 күн бұрын
You forget that these people never lose arguments either. They can always just invent a reason for being correct or decide that you're stupid for not understanding their arguments no matter how vague or filled with holes they are.
@TheRealCaptainGold
11 күн бұрын
@@ukkisragee9983 Moving the goalposts, semantic fallacies, ad hoc explanations, vagueness, etc. all fallacies you can easily point to and call out, thus placing these people on the defense.
@kylezdancewicz7346
11 күн бұрын
@@TheRealCaptainGoldWell actually you like zombie apocalypses which means your a geek, which means your argument is invalid… (some internet user probably)
@TheRealCaptainGold
10 күн бұрын
@@kylezdancewicz7346 Oh yeah? Well, prove that you aren’t a geek. 🤓 Until then, you too are a geek and hence your argument is also invalid. 👌🏻😂
@kylezdancewicz7346
10 күн бұрын
@@TheRealCaptainGold Well since your a geek that counter argument is invalid.
Thank you for this,those kids in preschool didnt stand a chance
That introduction was genuinely the funniest one minute of my life omg😭😭😭
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Haha! Thank you!
How to win every argument: the use and abuse of logic by Madsen Pirie is a great quick read that outlines the different types of fallacies used in debate. Just being able to recognize a fallacy when it’s being used helps tremendously.
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Ah I will have to give it a read!
@pedrogames443
16 күн бұрын
Thx
@ExistingSmiles
13 күн бұрын
I learned fallacies in 7th grade as apart of my school, i can confirm learning fallacies is useful for arguing
@DawnAfternoon
12 күн бұрын
@@ExistingSmiles Or to use the fallacies as a leverage to assert their lack of knowledge to the "audience", debate isn't only about winning a point it's also convincing third parties about your point
@TshidiMPule
12 күн бұрын
I know a few logical fallacies but I haven't any means of refuting them without seeming incompetent. Do you, perhaps, know any?
The funny thing is, I’ve used one simple Japanese Philosophy Trick to win just about every argument I’ve ever had, which makes most of this advice redundant. “The best weapon you have is your enemies/(opponents).” For example, if someone insults you, riff off of their insult, rephrase it a bit differently, and throw it back at them. That is because psychologically they are insulting you the way they think will hurt you, but indirectly revealing what types of insults hurt them. Thus why you should never be the first to throw insults. In debate, you have their presented ideas, and you can either counter what they are saying, you already have their stance, just counter it with either historical facts, or present a time they contradicted themselves. Or ask questions about what they said. Remember, if you can answer their questions, but they can’t answer yours in return, you’re actually the one winning.
@mo-s-
9 күн бұрын
I will steal your tactics 👍
So what you're saying is that we should all have the money to subscribe to your patreon in order to see more videos like this? That's not the point of KZread.
@Stinkymoe
11 күн бұрын
Loolll
@lilly3161
9 күн бұрын
Dude mastered it already
Confidence stills plays a huge role in debate, being able to stand in front and say all the bullshit with a straight face makes for a more compelling argument
This really shows how a debate is a very unefficient form of communication and should be avoided except for entertainement purposes.
Never do this kind of things in debate. But still watch to aware of these things to know what your opponent exactly doing so you have a idea to correct him/her.
You have no idea how much I love your videos, I’m a university student and every single day I watch your videos, my classmates find it hard to understand what you’re saying because first of all English isn’t our first language, second u mostly talk about Dostoevsky & they don’t know him , so I have to translate what you’re saying and give em information about Dostoevsky etc but they really enjoy watching your videos. Me and some girls in my class sit together and play your videos in morning and during lunch break . I want to be just like you sir , I want to gain more and more knowledge about philosophy and other things , even though im a zoology major student but I have really great interest in literature and philosophy. And one more thing you truely deserve millions of subscribers . Much love, pls keep posting more and more videos , you’re an inspiration ❤
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Ah thank you so much! That is very kind!
@Arizoo-
Ай бұрын
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 thanks for replying 🤍🤝
@DJWESG1
Ай бұрын
See Donna harraway, no need to thank me
@Arizoo-
Ай бұрын
@@DJWESG1 I will , for sure 🤍
@manubishe
Ай бұрын
Great, there will be a zoologist that knows her words and thoughts. More power to you
Good to see the comments are aware that argument and discussion should strive for learning and not “winning”, everyone should be aware of these tactics though to avoid doing them. Or being frustrated when encountered with someone disingenuous.
@joundii3100
9 күн бұрын
Nah, I'd win
LOVE your sarcasm, humor, delivery, etc! LOL!
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Haha! Thank you!
Reddit tutorial
@Dirt975
7 күн бұрын
Fr
@LeoIdk-zn2th
2 күн бұрын
Lmao
Thankyou for your videos, they are my favourite videos on youtube. Not only are you clear and concise but you deliver it in a way that it is intriguing and a joy to listen to. So thankyou good sir! We need more creators with your enthusiasm on the subjects they speak of.
He is right on the money. I used to train ppl both in collegiate debating and real life debating. Schopenhauers tricks work in both settings, even if the collegiate debating world tries to count only logic and sound reasoning. A debate is the proces of impressing your 'rightness' unto the audience, not to defeat your opponents logic. Ware those who forget this
dude i love your videos. not only do i learn a lot but also have a smile on the face for the entirety of it. sense of humor is immaculate, the jokes just keep on going and going. love it!!!!!!!!
Love it man. Keep going, I think you’ve got something good going on here with the channel; you’re good at this. Thanks for the vid
I've used these methods in real life, and now I have a closely dedicated group of people who want to keep me happy all the time. How nice of them! 11/10 would recommend again!
Your channel is a gold mine- i just joined the debates club at my school and i have been given a topic to debate so that they may deduce my skills. Your videos are very infromative and have been helping me immensely in my preparation, i feel like im gonna be able to give a really good first impression now (by gaslighting the living daylights out of my opponent). Thank you :) Btw, great book recs
Omg, i was litterrally searching right now for a video on f...king hellish people that interrupts endlessly and malignantly any exchange of ideas in a debate and you just happened to publish your video so i'd like to thank you so much for this smart move of yours ! I've read this book of Shopenhauer and i was wandering if he talked about this problem precisely you did a great job synthesizing his book
@crowleeisonfire
11 күн бұрын
Yea thers someone in my uni like that. I'm great at logical good faith or at the very least educated deabting, was in the debate team for my school for a long while. But dude literally does every single thing listed in this video. I felt like I was just being crazy or something but Holly shit I'm starting to think I might not be
Yea yea a handsome man on internet teaching us how to debate. An absolute yes
Thank you for this crash course in the Vaush school of debate!
The grammar, deep voice, and vocabulary makes me attracted to this video like a magnet
Amazing video! Keep uploading videos its very interesting in this content. Lots of thanks
"What a smart and handsome man, I wish my boyfriend were like him" - I really died of laughter for a few moments! Nice one mate!😂 Edit: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit!" - OMG🤣
Another great video. I love logic and philosophy so finding your channel is right up my street!
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
I’m not a English native speaker and i love your mastery of the language. Thanks to it i learn every day new words (not the usual ones that you hear in shorts or more generally in garbage content) and expression that help me develop a whole new approach to the language.
This was such a delightful video. Thank you 😆
I am so damn glad I found this channel, thank you for consistently making such great videos.
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Thank you! That is very kind!
What an amazing video, please do more practical philosophy/rhetorics like this also love how expressive, humorous and lively you always are!!
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Thank you! That is very kind!
That was a nice cautious video about logical fallacies.. thank you!
Saving this to my “stuff that I should study for MUN, but I don’t care enough to do so” list
Problem is when your opponent has seen this video too!!!
Can’t wait to see the video where we’re able to fight these type of arguers that just want to win. Or point it out to them/others
Not going to lie, given the current level of discourse about, well, everything... I was apprehensive about the title, thankfully the description has relieved me of the majority of those concerns, and now to enjoy another thorough, detailed philosophy analysis!
love it your channel inspires me to make my own vids about philosophy . This vid was so funny defiantly Gunna uses some of these
I cant wait to see you in a debate and/or forum/round table. Please make that happen.
"if you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit" - quote of the century
It is such a relavant book in the model day,good video❤
got a debate competition in a few weeks, thanks for the help 🙏🙏
a person that uses all these techniques isn't someone worth arguing with
@yabrofenko
12 күн бұрын
It's nice to know where those insta ppl I've been arguing with learned from 😂 Now I can do the same for them (:
@asheater
8 күн бұрын
At the end of the day, arguing isn't about logic, it's about winning the sayed argument. Even if it's with these outrageous "tips"
@danielluskan4752
7 күн бұрын
isnt argument and debate a different thing?
Easiest way to win an argument is when someone starts using these techniques against you to just simple reply: “cope.”
@one_logic
28 күн бұрын
“Who asked?”
@myCowIsCylinder
17 күн бұрын
Worst advice
@one_logic
17 күн бұрын
@@myCowIsCylinder that’s the point
Piers Morgan has learnt that book by heart
Fucking love the raw sarcasm in this. Subbed Good to know so you can point them out, but the point of argument/debate isn't to win, it's to seek the truth. We are surrounded by what is real at the end of the day. Most ideas are wrong, with a middle ground civil approach, you can both leave better people.
You should do a video on how to counterattack someone who does these techniques on you. Great video btw!
Alright one tip in and he’s already using fallacies 😂😂😂
This is pure rhetorical persuasion. Going to apply some of these strategies for WUDC!
@Haqueip
Ай бұрын
Bro don't 💀, I think your opponent is still smart to point out
Cracking channel lad 👍
The video I didn’t know I wanted but definitely needed
If you have a short attention span like most of us, here’s the basics: Step 1: “so what your saying is…(insert outlandish/exaggerated version of opponents argument)” Step two: make a sensible argument when they aren’t looking and once they do say “get a load of this guy, he wasn’t paying attention” or “get a load of this guy, he doesn’t think (insert sensible comment here)” Step three: flood them with questions so they get mentally drained Step four: say the downsides to make them look evil Step five: say something that isn’t true but also say it’s “common sense” Step six: interrupt the person to make them look foolish later Step seven: make the opponent angry so they look foolish Step eight: say sentences that are too fancy or complicated like “why shall I debate with this foolish looking person?” Step 9: basically a bit more logical normal fighting Step 10: the lessons of deceit Step 9 and 10 are convoluted (and have the actual numeral symbols) because you’ll have to watch those yourself. It’s good for him and your attention span. Anyways bye bye!
The sad reality is that communication is only 20% verbal and Logos itself plays an even more irrelevant part. To convince someone you must appeal to his emotions, you cannot escape from that truth.
@daanschone1548
27 күн бұрын
Seems like you really want to believe that.
@golDroger88
27 күн бұрын
@@daanschone1548 That's my life experience. Just look at politics to see what works and what doesn't.
@daanschone1548
27 күн бұрын
@@golDroger88 you use words as "sad reality" and "cannot escape from the truth", but now you say it is just your personal opinion?
Pause at 5:11. Here I am again; I can’t get enough of this guy. Is he not the greatest, literal greatest communicator on logic and reason in our society today? I say that without a shred of incredulity. No straw man. I for one have received a college education, listened to many many speakers since then, observed even more debates. Take a bow mr British man, whoever you are, because you having the ability to understand and communicate these truths so eloquently means you are very conscious of them and are above them. All of them.
This video is pure gold
The best way to win a debate is not to debate.
Learning chess tactics: 🤓 Learning debate tactics: 🗿
@Thiger_
8 күн бұрын
So what you are saying is that every chess player is a nerd and is not respectable ?
@Jungleali
8 күн бұрын
@@Thiger_ so what I’m saying is, chess is a game about a lot of strategies and thinking, however practicing it professionally doesn’t pay off at all. So if you play chess, you are a nerd
@Thiger_
8 күн бұрын
@@Jungleali So what you are saying is that playing chess is not worthy, and this way you shouldn't make it a profession ?
@TechnologyQuest369
7 күн бұрын
@@Thiger_ Unlimited debate loop 😂
@kwxh
7 күн бұрын
@@Jungleali playing chess does pay off, many grandmasters made millions of dollar in their career, so it does pay off, but only when youre extremely good
I am so glad i found this channel 😮
Your channel's name is just spot on! 😂
how to be unlikable and difficult to speak to -- a guide
My mind keeps saying "ben Shapiro?"
@Nx3ato
7 күн бұрын
Mu mind
@Didartie
7 күн бұрын
@@Nx3ato lmao I didn't even notice! Thanks
This content is amazing! I love these videos! how did you start out?
christmas dinner's gonna be fun this year! thanks 🙏
Humongous swollen P… I mean brain!
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Haha! I couldn't resist
@TwoDudesPhilosophy
Ай бұрын
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 pipijokes, the pinnacle of philosophy!
@for_fox_aches
Ай бұрын
@unsolicitedadvice9198 We love you because you can't lol. Finally got a patreon I see. Get ready to be rich.
Another video lets goooo
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
I hope you like it!
@MyeshaFatima505
Ай бұрын
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 am watching it right now loving it so far
Thank you!
I've got to admit, as much as it pains me to admit, I've been guilty of falling into this habit. From my recollection it seems to be mostly around topics I have a personal/vested interest in, usually surrounding human rights, so I can see how I could fall into this habit. Thank you for raising this in a way that allows for a detached, objective analysis, without assigning blame or guilt. Assuming the persona of "debate bro" really helped to convey your points clearly, and illustrate how, where and why they can go wrong. The various iterations of the "puppy dilemma" was a fantastic comparison to highlight how absurd yet also on the face of it logical-seeming these arguments can be. This is one of my favourite of your vids so far! I just hope you don't burn yourself out with all the content you're creating lately!
@alena-qu9vj
29 күн бұрын
But there is no way to say where the "truth" is especially around such topics as human rights. The more personal/emotional interest in any topic, the more the "truth" is just rationalization of your (mostly subconsciouss) emotional preference. And one's smart brain is always able to find "logical" arguments, which persuade the one foremost. And it is also very human to use "unlogical"/emotional arguments in such a debate. After all, we are no AI (yet). Moreover, what's good about "winning" an argument by fair and logical means, when the real reality does not function like this by no means?
@kezia8027
29 күн бұрын
@@alena-qu9vj I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. There are SOME truths to the universe, and when we discuss human rights, we are talking within a framework of humanity which limits the scope, again allowing much more ability to define the parameters. Human rights are a function of a human society, they are rights that come about as part of existing within a society. Existing within a society inherently will be different to not existing within a society, and as such any distinction would always be man-made (whether conscious or unconscious), by virtue of the society needing to be manmade. I think you're misconstruing 'truth' with 'morality' which ironically, is essentially in my opinion, the issue with people who use these types of 'debate' and where the illogical premises tend to begin. Truth exists outside of morality.
@alena-qu9vj
28 күн бұрын
@@kezia8027 Sorry, but I think it is you who misconstruct truth with morality. While I agree that there is a universal „truth“ out there in the realm of ideas, for us material people living in a relative dualistic world, this ideal truth is only accessible via our subjective indivdual perception, which differs in every individual according to their character and experience. There is no universaly approved consensus on which this universal „truth“ may be - thats why all those passionate debates. I hope you do not believe or even preach that it is YOU who knows the truth. Any „charter“ of human rights is just a virtual construct having no justification in the real life, where it is always the powerfull ones who force their rules on the weak. There is a general sense of morality - specific to different societies and times, and laws which are here for imposing this morality on society - also conforming to respective societies. Sorry, „human rights“ today are often just a pretext for the powerfull to force their rules on people or countries, while pursuing their own very selfish goals.
@kezia8027
26 күн бұрын
@@alena-qu9vj No worries, I can see you have a very high opinion of yourself, and an inability to communicate your thoughts concisely which often seems to coincide with an egoistic confidence in the self and the very points you fail to adequately explain or justify.
@timjrgebn
25 күн бұрын
I think many who get into philosophical discussions, me included, forget what is actually practical and useful to the world. What's a construct, ultimate truth, morality, etc. can be debated all day long. People have dedicated their lives to it. And like the OP said, human suffering can really fuel those debates. And that's understandable. Humans naturally prefer not to suffer... But, what is useful to a human? The physical power that "allows" you to disregard the growing consequences of suffering? The social power to convince people what is "necessary" suffering? Without getting into specifics, certain powers that are showing a deep lack of regard for human suffering have now (if you go outside to see) lost nearly all their social power globally. This is leading to a decline in their physical power. That's measurable. And it has been measured and observed with previous societies as well. So again, what's a useful discussion then? The relationships between forms of power, human suffering, etc.? Or what are constructs, truths, morality, etc.? To me, at least, one is more measurable than the next. This is why when people ask me what I consider the most useful sub-field of philosophy, I tell them analytical philosophy. It's at least measurable and usable. Otherwise, we end up debating in the clouds with our eyes closed, at least that's been my experience through the decades.
I like the Debating skill of Vivek Ramaswamy !!! 🔥✨✊
Honestly this is kind of evil, don't actually use this knowledge against someone, but learning about it can lead to better understanding of when you are being manipulated.
@senxue
11 күн бұрын
Oh so you think it's better to act as a bystander while people are unknowingly manipulated simply because you know better. How selfish
Thank you. Now, as someone that I view as logical, I now know how to deal with these kinds of people.
wow didnt even realize it was 25 minutes long very entertaining and full of forbidden knowledge i will very much use
Will use the information provided to manipulate the populace and outlaw burger king fries.
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Godspeed
Hii can you make a video on how to become more articulate
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Ah I might do one on how philosophers write - that would be fun
@besharam2049
Ай бұрын
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 that's a great idea too
@MartyMcwhy
Ай бұрын
How about on how to be less
@postmodernmining
Ай бұрын
Bend more.
I literally had lesson about Schopenhauer two weeks ago so around the day you uploaded it
I love unsolicited advice
⚠️ Debates are for the ignorants. You don't debate those with opinions. You give them Knowledge. "Destroy"... is what teenagers aim for. You don't destroy anyone. You educate them with love. Quit ego tripping and humble yourself. You're still a child
Yo great video. It would be cool if you make a video on how to combat this type of debater. I think that we all know a person who uses these techniques and i find it super annoying so would be nice to know what to do aggainst it. Love your videos keep it up.
Your opening made me wish I was 30 years younger. Love your work by the way!
That interrup.. was so good haha
15:36 the fact that an ad hit me right there on the point about interrupting. I guess I didn’t have to imagine it😂
@ninjasheeps3690
7 күн бұрын
I think he specifically places it there
I just fall in love with his voice
Finally, a video worth learning from.
This is a great video to characterize my protagonist a bit more.
This explains common discourse so much and now I am much sadder for it.
0:19 just when I was thinking about this topic you appear 💯 Thank you 👍🙏
@unsolicitedadvice9198
Ай бұрын
Ah I hope you enjoy it!
@Anand2024
Ай бұрын
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 💯
Just came here after losing an argument now it’s time for round two
Ngl I’m pretty pleased you didn’t use a word I didn’t know in the “word salad” and I followed all of it just fine.
I wish this came before my science debate 😭great video tho ill use this to study for my next debate
Most of this will work to a point, once the opposition knows you have no interest in getting to the bottom of things, they'll just call you out on "gaslighting" rightfully so
I'm here for for my debate XD I'll probably use some tips here XD