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@georgewarner5496

Ай бұрын

FOR LOTS OF LAUGHTER TELL THIS ONE TO LADIES : Can you imagine an elevated motor car fitted with wheels on the ends of long stilts. A strong gust of wind would easily blow it off balance. The high heeled shoes that women wear are similar to that car. They are one of Humanity's most daft inventions. And I don't believe that a Christian woman that has a serious interest in Stoic Wisdom based on Rational Judgement and Sound Logic would ever wear high heeled shoes. The shoes contort the feet from their natural shape, minimise stability and traction, and have the opposite effect of minimalist shoes and barefoot walking. There are various situations that women may find themselves in that clearly elucidate the error of wearing H.H. shoes. E.g. Running to catch a bus or train. Running to cross a road where there is no pedestrian crossing and there is traffic moving fast in both directions. Running for your life when a mass shooting happens. John Wayne said : Life is tough but its even tougher when you're stupid. LOL.

@MariadeLourdesAniesSanch-ze7hf

Ай бұрын

I guess man

@MariadeLourdesAniesSanch-ze7hf

Ай бұрын

He is my body forever I like freedom please

@happinesstan

Ай бұрын

"The unexamined life s not worth living" But is the unlived life worthy of examination?

@silvergreylion

Ай бұрын

@@georgewarner5496 Thanks, though I think it needs a bit of modernization.

Holy cow. "You can't logic someone out of a position that they haven't logiced themselves into." That sounds like something I should have known already, but I had never heared it expressed like that.

@Bf26fge

Ай бұрын

That is so true. I believe it was Mark Twain who said it is much easier to fool a man than to convince him that was fooled.

@catlordofthe69th82

Ай бұрын

I believe he is the one that said "No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot"@@Bf26fge

@Itsunaiz

Ай бұрын

Just cuz a quote sounds cool doesnt make it true. Sometimes a good debate can help open ppl’s eyes to rationale and make them requestion their emotional beliefs

@rufuscollis303

Ай бұрын

Once the "belief system" has been tapped into...there's no moving it. Even if that was based on lies,

@klosnj11

Ай бұрын

@@Itsunaiz while the statement is formulated as an absolute, I think it is safe to assume it is meant as a rule of thumb more than an unbreakable law of the universe. Of course there are instances where reason can change someones perspective if it was originally informed by emotion. But I think in the vast majority of such cases, pathos or ethos will get one further than logos alone. We are not purely rational beings. As Hume said, "Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions."

My girlfriend must be a distant relative of Socrates, because I never win any of our debates.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Haha! I think the same about my grandma - she always comes out on top even when I think I’ve temporarily got the upper hand

@Anand2024

2 ай бұрын

🤣

@guynamedjohn69

2 ай бұрын

Lol I always win. I'm sure she lets me. 6 years together now

@bryanutility9609

2 ай бұрын

Just nod your head when she talks, 😂

@deepblue1846

2 ай бұрын

If you lose you lose.. if you win you still lose.. sometimes it’s best to not fight lol

To summarize… Pre-Arguing: Ask “What definitions are we using for the key terms in our discussion?” to find out if you really are arguing about what you think you're arguing about. The word “God” could mean multiple things. If two parties have different definitions and are both arguing whether or not God is real, they're not on the same page and have a distorted reality of what the other person is thinking. The second thing to ask is “Under what circumstances would we change out mind?”. The reason for asking this would be to gauge if they are even open to the idea of learning something new out of the debate, or are just a Martyr for their beliefs. The Ignoramus and Clarification: “I’m not sure I completely understand your position.” is a great way to diffuse the argument by turning it I to a discussion of genuine curiosity. By asking them to clarify their position, they have to think more elaborately of their position, revealing to them the holes in their logic. “What do you mean by that?” allows your opponent to clarify their argument so you can get on the same page as them, allowing you to articulate your argument based on their subjective worldview. Causes and Reasons: Ask “What is the reasoning behind that belief?” to have them explain their logic. If they reply back with what CAUSED their belief, state the separation between reasoning and cause. If they dismiss what you say and repeatedly state what caused their worldview, it very well may be a lost cause. The Alternatives: Put yourself in the other persons shoes. Live their life for a moment and ask yourself “what information may I be missing living the life that this person has lived?” . Knowing that they may be dismissing omitted information, ask “Under What conditions would you change your mind?”. This will get them to think critically about different perspectives people could carry, which could then open their mind for change. Implications and Complications: To translate peoples beliefs into reality and hold them accountable, ask “If what you say is true, then what would be a consequence of it? Positive and negative?”. This will get them thinking down the line of their beliefs, putting it to the smell test. Questioning Questions: Question questions to clarify the reasoning behind their curiosity. Find out why you're stance is causing them distress to address their logic and emotions properly. Forgive me for the long comment. Writing this for my own sake. Hopefully someone benefits from it like I have.

@booboobeepbeep9964

Ай бұрын

Thank you, this was a great summary. Very for exterior opinions, giving this an accurate summary of the video. Though I don’t think I would have been opposed to some of your personal opinions.

@nathanielnorton1972

Ай бұрын

Thank you for leaving this here, I went through it aloud and it seems I have a deeper understanding now of this video, thanks to you 😊

@PBTexasBoy

Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@Venusneighbor

Ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@BetwixtDandD

Ай бұрын

Also, ask yourself WHY do you want to win debate? Question your motive first. Furthermore, AVOID arguing with morons. Otherwise, you are wasting your time and energy.

This transcends politics and debates. This is communication and self awareness 101

@AlliePaints

Ай бұрын

I mean debates aren’t inherently political (not saying you necessarily said that, but it seems like a potential flaw in your logic)

@somevideos7432

Ай бұрын

@@AlliePaintsnice, I see what you did there 😉

@MZIH

Ай бұрын

I’m not sure I completely understand your position, But you’re wrong

@JonDot

21 күн бұрын

Some may even call it Philosophical :P

@AlliePaints

21 күн бұрын

@@somevideos7432 TMW I Have no Idea what you're talking about because that was just a genuine statement 🤣

2:22 the amount of times that we end up arguing “about nothing” bc the misunderstanding falls under the “pre-argument” part. loved how u broke down that “pre” stage

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Ah thank you! I think it can be helpful as I have wasted so much time in the past before realising that I had just misunderstood someone's position

@klosnj11

2 ай бұрын

How do you think that can be achieved online. Often we find ourselves in the midst of the action online; an argumentitive "medias-en-res" if you will. Do we formalize the debate? "So before we go any further, I want to make sure that we are all speking the same language...." That sort of thing?

@GuardDog42

2 ай бұрын

Doubles as a way to pin people down on what they believe so they cannot weasel out of it if the conversation turns against them.

Almost every online argument you ever encounter comes down to 2 people operating off of different definitions of a term.

Some people are just incapable of critical thinking. No matter how many angles you show them how to re-think their position, their previous conclusion will never change. They never reasoned their way into their belief, so there’s no reasoning them out of it.

@korumo2554

Ай бұрын

I think they just want to win arguments based on their emotion, and yes it will be poitnless to debate if they are in that stand

@GingeryGinger

Ай бұрын

Define critical thinking for me here?

@jimj9040

Ай бұрын

@@GingeryGinger Critical thinking: using known and indisputable facts and building upon them without emotion or bias and being able to trace all you opinions back to first principles. Disagreements mostly happen when somebody lets emotion or bias into this process.

@hakon_helgoy

26 күн бұрын

​@@jimj9040 I'm confused. If a requirement for thinking critically is already having opinions tracable to first principles, then thinking critically on a topic you've not already traced back seems impossible to do. In this case you'd only be able to do something "think critically" if and only if, you already believed certain things to be true. By this metric Descartes isn't thinking critically when he doubts everything around him, but only after he's found something he can no longer doubt.

@jimj9040

26 күн бұрын

@@hakon_helgoy The requirement was having Facts, not opinions. In order to think critically and form opinions you have to establish something to be true in the first place in order to build upon that base. You can continue to question the factual basis of anything and you may find you were wrong when you get new information. That’s how progress works. It’s impossible to doubt everything around you at the same time, but it doesn’t hurt to re-examine your core beliefs and those things that sprout from them every now and then. Descartes indeed Isn’t engaging in critical thinking yet when he simply is observing. Doubting is just a state of not knowing if anything is true…no thinking is involved in doubting. Once he gets to… I think, therefore I am…he now has something to build upon.

This is why i am the silent student in school, observe carefully - write it down; but also remembering that i am human with my own desires and needs; its really fun how philosophy orders your mind but reminds you of personal goals.

@PowerK1

2 ай бұрын

such cope

@homosapien4067

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean by cope?​@@PowerK1

@crappycat9056

2 ай бұрын

@@homosapien4067I think what this guy means is that you’re essentially “coping with that fact that you’re pretty shit and low status in class”, making stuff about how you’re actually “secretly smart” by observing and doing “smart” stuff while keeping a low profile. Just my guess on what they meant 🤷

@MorteWulfe

Ай бұрын

​@@PowerK1says the weeb with a Gundam avatar?

@jarate8076

29 күн бұрын

@@MorteWulfe>basically said nothing but with shine

The real secrets to winning arguments: 1. Be loud 2. Interrupt 3. Make up your own facts 4. Never let critical thinking enter into anything I learned how to argue from my parents.

@doob.

2 ай бұрын

5. Threaten you opponents with harmful actions.

@Mondomeyer

2 ай бұрын

@@doob. That's a good one.

@rinishan

2 ай бұрын

Ouch, my condolences. At least you're able to make good humor out of it now, if there is a silver lining :)

@PeroroGodzilla

2 ай бұрын

6. Make them think their wrong 7. Always Invalidate their stance's in arguments

@jldriver02

2 ай бұрын

@@doob. 6. Act smug and condescending smack your lips and shake your head while the opponent is making their point. It helps if you are eating/drinking something

"I don't like pizza." "What do you mean by 'pizza'?" "The food made of dough, tomato sauce, and mozzarella cheese." "What do you mean by 'cheese'?" "The food that's made from milk that comes from cows." "What do you mean by 'cows'?" "The farm animals we use to produce beef, milk, and cheese." "What do you mean by-" "Listen. If you make me go through this infinite loop of answering definitions for every word, I will make you drink hemlock." "..." "..." "What do you mean by-" *glug glug glug*

@jj4791

Ай бұрын

Yes! Specify what the ingredients are. That will resolve much debate.

@brooklyn5755

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂 LOL

@jacklikescereal4312

7 күн бұрын

ayooooo

@murarim5791

3 күн бұрын

Aiyoo kadavule haha ! That's hilarious 😂

I'm blown away that KZread would force you to censor famous paintings. Mind boggling use of pearl-clutching

@madMARTYNmarsh1981

14 күн бұрын

Considering their A.I. has been trained on the same famous art, it is particularly egregious and hypocritical.

Not defining terms is a also a good reason to just bail on a conversation. Lots of people refuse to define terms because they don't want to be nailed down and that's when I know to just leave the conversation because they just want to "win" at any cost.

The point about the pre-argument stage is so true. It's useful even outside of debates, as I've had small arguments with friends about nothing, because we had wrong assumptions about how the other person defined a word. Very silly.

Excellently done. One thing I tell young people is to gather up the older copies of the Great Authors, the Thinkers, that were published pre-1960. The way these books were written is altogether different than what we see today, what I sometimes refer to as High English, and it precludes the problem of books having been selectively "abridged" to remove non-pc content. Plus, they're very much a window in time that allows us to get a sense of how the world was in The Times Before. That aside, reading the older books, with all their big words, provides you with words and concepts that are decidedly lacking today. Words allow you to understand the thoughts you might be having because they give a name to a concept. Words do have meanings, and definitions do matter.

I got so excited when I saw the notification that you posted :)

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Ah thank you! That has made me smile

I really loved the way you added in some humor here and there in this video! Made me giggle a number of times hehe

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Ah thank you! I am glad!

I'm not entering debates to win them, but to learn. People that enter debates to win them aren't great people to have a debate with.

Hello, Unsolicited Advice! Once again another spendid and comprehensive video, you have my applause. It is wonderful to see someone as dedicated as you are to refining your philosophy and out-view on life. I digress, thank you! 😄

Your framing is extremely useful in these, thanks for all your work

Love YOUR VIDEOS! wish there was more content creators like you

This is very helpful, thanks, it shed some light on my debating style.

this is an incredibly insightful video that taught me the roots of the fundamentals of competitive debate. in competitive debate, we all learn to establish definitions, set burdens (conditions under which you or your opponent would be true or false), consider the impacts of a motion being put into place (implications), etc. etc. in our speeches. it's critical to understand the importance these parameters have in making rational and convincing constructive arguments.

ah yes Ive found myself: Debating with imaginary people in the shower

Great video. Glad to see the channel is growing like it should with content like this.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I really appreciate how you’ve been there from the start

This man is GOOD! I learned quite a bit and he has a new follower!!!!

Very insightful video!

A very well made video, containing a vital life lesson.

Thank you for the video and information. You earned my subscription. I look forward to watching more of your videos.

I just recently read about the first dialogue of socrates in the book republic by plato and honestly this gives me much essential knowledge to think critically and ask questions with more clarity

Information is the most deadly weapon, and the most useful tool.

Hi there. I'm always looking for stimulating, well-honed YT content. I've only watched this one video, but so far so good. Subbed. Cheers

Good to see a new video. Keep it up, you make great content.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

This is truly unsolicited advice

How delightful! I was laughing and applauding through the entire video. Well done, sir!

Very interesting, I find this episode very helpful ❤, many thanks

“People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of their character."

I spend a lot of my free time in debates on a variety of topics. It's just so fun! This video I think will help me and my friends to sharpen our critical thinking skills.

Looking at the titles of your videos... Instant sub... I hope I watch all of them.

Very good unsolicited advice

Grear content, always bring new perspective

This post proves that you don't even need to know Socrates's rules for debating/arguing. BECAUSE EVERY SENTENCE SOUNDS SO CONVINCING WITH YOUR CHARISMATIC BODY LANGUAGE AND DEEP TONE EVEN IF I DISAGREE WITH IT.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Haha! Thank you! That is very kind of you to say! Though slightly terrifying as I make the most mistakes out of anyone I know

@Bananahairboi

2 ай бұрын

:D therefore you make the most progress than anyone you know @@unsolicitedadvice9198

@TheJoshestWhite

Ай бұрын

There's a quote from a great movie called "Thank you for smoking": " If you argue correctly, you're never wrong."

Fantastic Video Sir & Great information. You communicate clearly & it's very easy to follow 🙏 I've Just Subscribed 🙏 Thank You.

Recently I have become a HUGE fan of LOGIC. Thanks for this video.

@drtyhrmt

17 күн бұрын

Oh, the irony.

Great video. Well done. Thank you.

Am Greek, you all right, thank you as a Greek on memory of my ancestors Socrates. Ευχαριστώ ( That mean thank you.)

Thanks for these videos! I am a philosophy major and this stuff fits into my studies nicely.

3:40...the important thing in modern argument is to make onlookers see the opposition's viewpoint as "cringe". In that way, you win the argument

Very nice, congrats and many thanks!

Splendid teaching! The social media gives more and more meanings for many people. It is important that it could be constructive. If we do not care the quality of public discussions, we shall easily fall to use social media only for provocative purposes. The result is sadomasokistic fight in the field of comments. Thank you for your inspiring views!

Socratic irony is a rhetorical device that involves pretending to be ignorant to expose someone else's ignorance or inconsistency. It's also known as "playing dumb". Socratic irony is a technique used in the Socratic method of teaching. It can be a useful tool for leading characters and readers to correct conclusions.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Ah I have heard this referred to as “The Ignoramus” - it is a great position to take

@Justineyedia

2 ай бұрын

@@unsolicitedadvice9198 "The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool"

@elisal98800

2 ай бұрын

Kinda manipulative

@Manker00

2 ай бұрын

An extremely annoying technique, because if the other person is not retarded, they will recognize what you are doing and get upset that you are trying to ridicule the discourse without contributing anything meaningful from your own side. What will come up in many cases in the near future is the question of the meaning of the debate: Is it even worth the time?

@patrickmorris3721

Ай бұрын

Or it takes a highly knowledgeable person to play the fool

Dude how tf you're not the biggest channel in KZread? Please never stop making videos you're videos are actually better than 90 percent of the channels in KZread. Dont know you just seems trustworthy.

@slonsky2363

Ай бұрын

Because majority of ppl are dumb as fuck and won’t get trough an intro of this video.

@damnnamealreadytaken2052

Ай бұрын

Most ppl Just like futile.

I'm subbed now. This is a good channel.

Your channel is awesome.

This is a great video I wish more people watched and learned from, it is so annoying when you debate with someone who you only later realize would never change position under any circumstances

Thank you for an excellent thesis on a this rather difficult topic,and the quandary of the human condition.

This is totally on point. The difficulty is finding someone willing to change their mind 😅

The reason so many people misunderstand so many issues is not that these issues are so complex, but that people do not want a factual or analytical explanation that leaves them emotionally unsatisfied. Thomas Sowell

And that’s a subscribe from me. Glad i found your channel. Well done. 👏

Thank you. Nice discussion.

Thank you🌸

The king has returned 🎉

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Haha! That is very kind

vey good i needed this before i was about to go into a debate vs justin tredau really helped

Excellent. Thanks for the content.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!

I definitely solicited this advice

This makes me think the intense arguments with myself are both insane and beneficial. It allows me to question my beliefs, where they come from, identify holes in my beliefs, and causes people and myself to question my sanity. However, I’d like to find ways to identify what would change my mind so I can demonstrate my willingness to have my belief changed.

I really love your vids specially those that hit the delicate questions in my mind during reading novels and articles. I'd like to see your review on zapffe's pessimistic prospective.

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Ah thank you! And I would need to check it out first. Edit: I’ve looked and his main work seems to be untranslated (and I sadly cannot speak Norwegian) - I’ll check out his translated stuff though

@arshia389

2 ай бұрын

, unfortunately, it's true. You can check Thomas Ligotti's conspiracy against the human race. He mainly wrote about Zapffe's article: the last messiah and his sentiment and ideas. He adds this article to his book. I hope it will help you out.

@arshia389

2 ай бұрын

@@unsolicitedadvice9198 , unfortunately, it's true. You can check Thomas Ligotti's conspiracy against the human race. He mainly wrote about Zapffe's article: the last messiah and his sentiment and ideas. He adds this article to his book. I hope it will help you

What an impecable reference "if my grandmother had weels" well implemented.

This actually helps a lot in court that I’ve noticed. People don’t actually understand and only assume. Very dangerous.if you have the option..Ask, learn as mush as you can.

Wow, I love the term “epistemic humility”

I'll try to condense this. It was truly a non-argument had with wife. I was, simply, telling her we won't be wasting a large amount of money that I had coming, like we had once before. Wasn't wasted as much, as not managed well. Now this second time she agreed but started saying "but... ". She started spending in her head already. In fact, one of the things was something I would highly enjoy, nevertheless, I wasn't going to start spending. It clicked in my mind, we were talking two different things, she, bringing in the emotional aspect, "if you like, wouldn't it be great to...", "don't you like... ", kind of thing. I was talking about the" financial aspects". I realized this but didn't tell her about this epiphany, looked at her and walked away. Not angry. Just walked. Later realized that if I had kept talking, I would have "lost" the debate based now upon talking emotions and not financial facts. It was a very subtle change. There was a time I would have fallen into that change without realizing. Since then, with anyone, not just her, I try to be aware that we're still on THE subject, whatever the subject may be. So, much for being condensed.

You are a smart young man. Very good.

Yesterday my cousin told me that i use a lot of mayeutics in the way i speak, didnt notice it until he said so and i looked it up on google, i just thought of it as "analytical thinking or aproach" or some bs. This clarifies a lot of things, what a timing

Im currently going through hell right now dude so you're video just helped me out to not focus on the pain and watch the video....and i love it ..i love you dude I really hope after this video i can sleep tonight without too much pain ...or ill have to remain awake once more 😢

Logic and reason are two different things. Logic is going from one thing to the next likely thing. Reason is discerning the next best thing. Logic is mechanistic, reason is a value judgment faculty. Also, epistemology is key to any productive discussion. Not just "You don't know what you don't know." But "How do you know what you know?"

@user-zu1ix3yq2w

Ай бұрын

Idgi. But I wasn't allowed to "reason" as a kid. I don't have the contextual understanding of ur definition of reason

@alextomlinson

29 күн бұрын

They sound opposing in the way you described them. Logic being a mechanistic progression of likelihoods, the other being a judgement of value about what outcome is ideal. I know they’re not exactly opposing, they’re just different tools. But for some reason my logic brain wants to oppose the “next best outcome” because it’s telling me that logic prevails over a value judgement. With that being said my reasoning brain is telling me that they should not be pitted against eachother. Have I gone insane? 😂

@johnswoodgadgets9819

17 күн бұрын

"The heavily armed man grabbed the child in the back seat by the scruff of the neck, shoved her into the floorboard, and leaped on top of her." (factual) "When the shooting started, the bodyguard immediately shoved his employer's young daughter into the back seat floorboard of the car and protected her body from the flying bullets with his own." (factual, but with perspective) Logic cannot differentiate between the two statements of fact. Only reason can. Miss one relevant element when applying logic, and the entire logical premise fails. If anyone doubts this, try writing a few computer programs in direct machine language. That is the trap in mistaking logic for thought.

Sub. Great content. (In the clearest most accurate definition of the term).

Wish I'd seen this before losing an argument earlier today lmao nice video though gotta love ancient philosophy and how it still applies to this day

Thank you. I mean really thank you.

Bro you are dumping some pretty good shit here!!

Thank You

Best thing you can do is just agree with them and go on with your day if you give a clear cut fact that is not disputed and they either ignore it or still find a reason to deny it.

Bravo! As a recent subscriber to your channel, I want to encourage you to keep doing what you are doing. You boldly stand in the vanguard of those of your generation that make philosophy accessible to those who only see philosophy as an unattainable luxury. My own 31 year career teaching philosophy to 18-23 year olds has taught me that every generation finds their own resolution to the challenge of seeking Reality, Truth, Goodness, and Beauty. You continue that tradition brilliantly. I'm still working my way through all your posted videos, but I want to encourage you to do a video explaining your trajectory in philosophy as your life of ideas. Your generation and mine would appreciate that. --- Cordially, Professor Mark McIntire, retired

@TheJoshestWhite

Ай бұрын

Well said! Hope he sees your comment

I personally enjoy discussions rather than debates because i know about as much as the person that im supossed to debate. So I never find the clash of thoughts to be intimidating more of a look at different perspectives

Bro damnn wish I could speak as well mannered and informed like you on a daily basis

every minute spent on this channel is worth it, have your ever considered creating a discord server or any other discussion forum?

i love this channel so damn much

@unsolicitedadvice9198

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate it!

Very, very good 😀 you extended the time on screen of your written commentaries. You took a look at Plato's ideas (not Socrates), Epicurus said that defining your terms is a must, and you put a dash of Popper 👍 So you are an optimist, try to keep at a distance most of what you read 🖐.Try to look into the classic Roman solutions on almost every human interaction on Roman Law. The theory of the "obligations" "obligaciones" (obligatio est juris vinculus...) term not much used in the Anglo-sphere.Cheers

thank you

This is really good. Great skills to develop. I wonder if you would consider slowing down the pace of delivery though, as it gives more time to process the information. I appreciate there is a lot to cover though.

Exceptional

It is difficult to discuss reality without running into contradictions, as reality is a duality that has the opposing ends of every spectrum to contradict its counter position.

I have attempted to use methods similar to this online. Having encountered far too many people who use 'I feel' instead of 'I think' online, I no longer bother trying to have a conversation with someone who bases their opinion on their feelings. I can try to put myself in a persons position if they have reached their position through thought, but I can not do the same if they reach their position through feelings; I can't feel what they feel. There are too many variables with feelings. Trying to argue against feelings rarely goes well. The person tends to greater levels of feelings and more powerful emotions, leading to a deeper level of mental resistance. I suppose I am quite lucky because I have high functioning Aspergers; I have few feelings (I feel love and anger, but they are muted emotions for me) to 'get stuck in' so reason and logic tend to be my only way of approaching life.

Learning the art of effective communication is a noble worthwhile goal. But it can be so danged exhausting! I think this is why so many avoid it!

Chistopher Hitchens used to say that whenever he found himself feeling frustrated in a debate it meant he didn't know enough about the topic, so he would fix it by going and reading up on it more.

@CiscoWes

26 күн бұрын

I wish he would practice this when he’s trying to debate believers.

This, is supremely sensational to the mind and thought processis. 😮

Most issues irl start with trying to attack or change someone elses viewpoint or actually just show how you find someone else being wrong. Instead of actually making a worthwhile argument. The argument falls even before it starts.

most of this only works when your interlocutor is intellectually honest and sincerely wants to explore the topic for greater understanding. most dont, most just argue for their side and want to win for their side.

awesome content

7:15 i also think self assessment to your own argument, & beliefs, is important!! 🤝 it’s important for us to remain humble as well ( we all are bias towards ourselves, so it seems only right to question my own views as i grow )

@unsolicitedadvice9198

2 ай бұрын

Ah yes if anything it is more important! I always lead with the "how to defeat others" and smuggle in the "how to re-evaluate yourself" through the back door when I am talking about this stuff

But what do you mean "win" a debate? 🙂

@helpumuch6887

15 күн бұрын

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@shane727

14 күн бұрын

Lol

@hunterhall1575

Күн бұрын

Well it depends on what you mean by... :P