How to Deal With Victim Mentality | Eckhart Tolle

Eckhart responds to a question about avoiding adopting a “victimhood identity” in the wake of trauma or abuse.
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  • @flaviodelladioband127
    @flaviodelladioband1272 жыл бұрын

    As a child of a narcissist or psychopath parent It Is real hard....many people know what this specific esperience feels like

  • @orianaterravecchia3333

    @orianaterravecchia3333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @nurture-the-nature

    @nurture-the-nature

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @danitori3452

    @danitori3452

    Жыл бұрын

    Borderline parent here. The problem is they can be so stuck in their own victim mentality you get stuck in it.

  • @michals79

    @michals79

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why you are here 🙏💚

  • @maryroot2599

    @maryroot2599

    Жыл бұрын

    Narcissist mother sociopath alcoholic dad, I've spent my adult life recovering.

  • @Naoko1875
    @Naoko18752 жыл бұрын

    This is so profound! I’m getting more and more aware of the ego’s tendency to complain in every day life. With every complain you install a small entity of victimhood. If you stop complaining and listen to other people who are still doing it, you can sometimes feel the impulse to add your own story, because it is kind of a competition who suffered the most.

  • @wallaceleewl9189

    @wallaceleewl9189

    2 жыл бұрын

    The famous saying: Misery love company. Haha... Bless you. Thank you.

  • @LahainaStrong444

    @LahainaStrong444

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spot on.

  • @deucdejm

    @deucdejm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Omg exactly! This is a trigger for narcissists bc that’s all they do (a witness to)

  • @annettegardiner7270

    @annettegardiner7270

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is so true

  • @ana-mariaalrasul9231

    @ana-mariaalrasul9231

    2 жыл бұрын

    Life is so much easier when you apply what Tolle says.

  • @xyedwaleed4527
    @xyedwaleed45272 жыл бұрын

    One Eckhart’s video a day, keeps anxiety and depression away.🍁

  • @gracelangford4755

    @gracelangford4755

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amen 🙏

  • @alexharvey1185

    @alexharvey1185

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! 😂it's true.

  • @VeronicaTvideo_editor

    @VeronicaTvideo_editor

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, there is something in his stillness and tone of voice. He emanates calm

  • @warpdirection

    @warpdirection

    9 ай бұрын

    Hahaha. I love that.

  • @Angrydadtwitch

    @Angrydadtwitch

    5 ай бұрын

    Hence why religions remind you to pray 5x etc , to stay mindful, you don’t need to believe in a specific god etc , just ET

  • @susanmadison6466
    @susanmadison64662 жыл бұрын

    I became so much freer when I discovered I am not a victim...it's not personal. I forgive a lot quicker Set healthy boundaries. Love without being involved...it feels good. Yes, there are times I still hurt from perceived slights but not as deeply or as long.

  • @wallaceleewl9189

    @wallaceleewl9189

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bless you. Thank you.

  • @fanghuabao1178

    @fanghuabao1178

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too ! I discovered I'm not the center of the world. Things happen but it may not be because of me. Sometimes what happens is the direct result of my actions and words, even if initially I did not intend them to have that kind of results. An incredible teaching.

  • @backfromthedarkalive

    @backfromthedarkalive

    2 жыл бұрын

    So wonderful forgiveness frees our own hearts from constriction.

  • @sassi7966

    @sassi7966

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes forgiveness is more for us, not them. It can have nothing to do with them. It's not letting them get away with it. It's letting *us* get away *from* it.

  • @cathychase663

    @cathychase663

    11 ай бұрын

    well said

  • @bethra.flowers
    @bethra.flowers2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. We tend to form addictions to avoid our emotional injuries. We are literally addicted to our pain & suffering! Almost to get sympathy or empathetic energy from others.

  • @lessmore444

    @lessmore444

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!….I’ve called this “the love affair with pain” because sympathy is the lowest hanging fruit of attention seeking

  • @dushisoundsmeditationmusic
    @dushisoundsmeditationmusic2 жыл бұрын

    To the person reading this: THANK YOU for being here and adding value to our world 💖 Hope you have a blessed day filled with joy, happiness, health and love! 💖

  • @alfreddifeo9642

    @alfreddifeo9642

    2 жыл бұрын

    same same to you, thanks

  • @pedrosanchezdelmonton9995

    @pedrosanchezdelmonton9995

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also I wish the best for you and beloved ones. You are right, everybody is reading that is a nice person and deserves to enjoy life (excepting the boss who fired me 7 months ago!)

  • @LeaMarlene111
    @LeaMarlene1112 жыл бұрын

    This video is so important! I was just meditating on this. Yes, we’ve all been victims to something but to maintain a victim mentality is very debilitating. When repressed memories surface it’s brutal but videos like this and your books help to reprogram into useful energy. Thank you so much for all you do and share it has impacted my life in a massively positive way. 🙏

  • @akshitikaushik
    @akshitikaushik Жыл бұрын

    Omg never ever thought of it this way ! Victimization makes us feel superior. This was so eye opening

  • @YourMom-iy6cv

    @YourMom-iy6cv

    Жыл бұрын

    Victims are narcissists and want to use people like servants they make the mess for others to clean

  • @annabellacrewe8858
    @annabellacrewe88582 жыл бұрын

    Hi Echkart ! YOU have been the master to me for 4 years now ! If I had not found You on KZread by accident, I am not sure I had been able to live my life being present ! I went through a horrible suffering for many years, fighting my ego ! I am gratefull to You for Sending out all Your healing talks and meditations! Namaste !❤

  • @conradmason87
    @conradmason87 Жыл бұрын

    It seems far more powerful to identify oneself as a survivor, rather than a victim.

  • @StephanieJeanne
    @StephanieJeanne2 жыл бұрын

    For me, the way beyond victimhood was to forgive the abuser. It was a huge release. Thank you! Hope everyone has a beautiful day!☺️🌻💜

  • @luckyPiston

    @luckyPiston

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was that an ego thing as well ?

  • @StephanieJeanne

    @StephanieJeanne

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@luckyPiston You know, I hadn't thought about it that way before. Maybe. And tbh, it's not like that was a total "cure" either. I still struggle with living in the present and being conscious (as we all do). Anyway, it helped. Thank you for that question.✌️😊

  • @orbitalpl1

    @orbitalpl1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @stephanie jeanne- how did you do that? For me it seems impossible thing to do.

  • @StephanieJeanne

    @StephanieJeanne

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@orbitalpl1 It certainly wasn't easy. It took being away from them for many years. I was able to look at them with empathy for what was done to them. Also remembering the things they taught me (both good and bad) and that they made me see how strong I actually am. It was just such a burden to carry the anger for so long. This all sounds very egoic, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing when you're healing from it. 🤷 I wish you well in finding your way. 💜

  • @luckyPiston

    @luckyPiston

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StephanieJeanne He talks about the victim being in a power struggle with the abuser, so the victim needs to recover from being taken over. So if the abuser is acting from a place of extreme selfishness and greed then they are indulging in a perverse form of pleasure. So when you forgive, are you forgiving the act or the mental state the abuser was in ?

  • @beller8501
    @beller85012 жыл бұрын

    Ive been healing major child abuse for 17 years.ive come along way.healed the cycle.memories trap you, on every level, if not healed.

  • @Anastasia-oy2zp

    @Anastasia-oy2zp

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have also experienced some emotional abuse from my parents as a child that I still need to fully heal from… it’s not easy but it’s possible…I wish you all the best 💋

  • @g4sp4r40

    @g4sp4r40

    Жыл бұрын

    I suffer cause i think i shouldn’t live happy while there are children suffering this stuff! I feel guilty as a person who cant and doesnt do anything to help in this problematic. I really hope you fully heal, how have you been doing? Are you capable of love and happiness nowadays? Anyway i can help you let me know. Big hug!

  • @wheezyouttahere2555
    @wheezyouttahere25552 жыл бұрын

    It's so interesting, the ego continues to strengthen itself across years and decades, yet at its core it is still weak and unstable

  • @writerforlifeify

    @writerforlifeify

    Жыл бұрын

    The ego is intrinsically weak as it subsists solely on a diet of fear! The need to feel superior to others, by whatever means, no matter how petty or nonsensical, is fundamentally fear-based. I like to talk about the "3 S's": the ego is concerned only with its own Safety, Security, Stability; the ego is attracted or addicted to Suffering, Sacrificing, Struggling---as these provide portals through which the ego builds its own (false) identity & 'earns' the attention/sympathy/praise of other (likewise unconscious) people. We've all met peeps who wear their suffering as a badge of honor, haven't we? The ego is inherently incapable of making any love-based choices, namely decisions that align one with one's own Truth, one's authentic Self.

  • @wheezyouttahere2555

    @wheezyouttahere2555

    Жыл бұрын

    @@writerforlifeify the ego is literally a trick we are all being tricked by an illusion

  • @juliesheard2122
    @juliesheard2122 Жыл бұрын

    I see myself so clearly in this ego identification of victimhood. Anger is the thing that switches off awareness and has led me into the victim state and blaming others for everything wrong in my life. Thankyou Ekhart.

  • @El-ks4ff
    @El-ks4ff2 жыл бұрын

    A very important one, thank you. Healing starts once you let go of the victim mentality.

  • @LiveLoveLevelUp
    @LiveLoveLevelUp2 жыл бұрын

    Whenever he says its precious to you, I think of golem. bwt.. whos the woman that flashes at 8:29 that scared me!

  • @l4dyzaster622

    @l4dyzaster622

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m wondering too

  • @terrakowalyk1737

    @terrakowalyk1737

    3 ай бұрын

    I saw that too!

  • @NetiNeti25920

    @NetiNeti25920

    2 ай бұрын

    He was on a video call with the interviewer. The mic must have picked up their voice and switches to their video. Then switches back to Eckhart.

  • @dinaelmasry5534
    @dinaelmasry55342 жыл бұрын

    There are states that use this collective victimhood and inflict suffering to other communities continously ! And this results of course in a vicious cycle of aggression , pain and injustice . Everyone suffers in the end. This is the evil power of the ego . Ego is extremely dangerous . I wish that all humans would become conscious of that. Thank you for all your teachings 🙏

  • @rowenabisschoff
    @rowenabisschoff2 жыл бұрын

    I once read a phrase “the pride of the worm” which catches me sometimes when I identify with bewailing my woes. Beautiful explanation 🙏🏻 I often ask myself if I have fallen back into learned helplessness which is such a delusion.

  • @C.E.Thomas1952
    @C.E.Thomas195211 ай бұрын

    This is ONE OF THE BEST EXPLANATIONS I have ever listened to. It is BRILLIANT IN ITS SIMPLICITY and therefore available to all. Thank you E.T.

  • @sheiladay-od2me
    @sheiladay-od2me Жыл бұрын

    Every ego identity is a delusion. Determining who you are from victimization by others is not who you are. To stop being a victim it is important to determine who you are without it and continue to grow from there. I love this video.

  • @zz-ic6vy

    @zz-ic6vy

    11 ай бұрын

    I try but it is so hard and victim part just takes over 😞

  • @ursulalynn4717
    @ursulalynn47172 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for being such a sweetheart!

  • @zaringonda6068
    @zaringonda60682 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Eckhart, for this wisdom.

  • @anapovse
    @anapovse2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this opened my eyes. Thank you!

  • @sanskaroflife1292
    @sanskaroflife12922 жыл бұрын

    Thank you from my heart as this has really helped me so much.

  • @neelammorey5317
    @neelammorey53172 жыл бұрын

    I am very thankful and grateful for you Eckhart sir for sharing your knowledge

  • @vintage_violet
    @vintage_violet2 жыл бұрын

    I've been dealing with the loss of a family member and other family are upset with me because I'm the executor and they feel the will is "unfair" to them. Long-term grudges are being resurrected, by the same people who always seem to have "victim stories" of how they've been hard done by (one uncle has been this way as long as I can remember). It's triggering my OWN feelings of how THEY aren't being fair to me, lol! So this video was very timely. :) I do feel the "story" of victim-hood often comes from traumas, which are real things to acknowledge (I myself have done trauma work to free myself from the grip of the pain body) but when it becomes WHO a person is it's destructive to them and others, too.. As humans we do need a sense of self, of some level of control/autonomy but I'm so grateful for Eckhart and others who have taught me that this True Self comes from the abiding space within. From that place I'm reminded that whatever these people "do to me" it's about THEM, about their "identity" and nothing really to do with me. And maybe I can even start to have compassion for them (a little lol). Namaste everyone

  • @lynnhall9957

    @lynnhall9957

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's so good. Yes. These types of issues will set off all the old triggers for unhealed egos. Compassion is wisdom to get through it 🙏

  • @slporter722

    @slporter722

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your post is timely for me. thank you. i was in the grips of a trauma painbody and although i was aware and could observe it, i could not stop it from becoming reactionary.

  • @vintage_violet

    @vintage_violet

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@slporter722 It's very hard when in the grip of it! I think maybe the way into being able to observe it is to start with self-compassion (it's ok to to that, real self-compassion isn't self-pity/victimhood). That helps me at least, stops me being upset with myself for my reaction, softens the reaction, stops the mental spiraling etc.

  • @slporter722

    @slporter722

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vintage_violet I will try that. thank you.

  • @WeeHgt

    @WeeHgt

    2 жыл бұрын

    As the person in my family who will be the executor, but also the youngest child and only female, this is a scenario that I would not be surprised about. I admit I have spent time worried about this future scenario, and did some mental practice to prepare for it.

  • @Cskn369
    @Cskn3692 жыл бұрын

    This message has taken weight off of me today.. thank you Eckhart.. love and blessings to all the masters who help us realise 🙏

  • @dlsarc
    @dlsarc2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely humbling!!!

  • @andreasrylander
    @andreasrylander Жыл бұрын

    This is more important in this day and age than ever before.

  • @ChuahTeongLeong
    @ChuahTeongLeong2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this teaching, this is one source of suffering that we inflict on ourselves. Recognizing it is a good start to liberation.

  • @erikperry1460
    @erikperry14602 жыл бұрын

    Wow talk about doing the work, he has ! ! 🙏 thank you.

  • @kishanagarwal658
    @kishanagarwal6582 жыл бұрын

    Such a deep and factual description of different forms of ego and their destructive , self-promoting as well as self-inflicting effects. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @ehsunanwar
    @ehsunanwar2 жыл бұрын

    Eckhart has added so many levels of profound wisdom to my life, that I get tears of gratitude just listening to him

  • @JonasAnandaKristiansson

    @JonasAnandaKristiansson

    2 жыл бұрын

  • @narcissistichealingforempaths
    @narcissistichealingforempaths2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Eckhart for this video! 🙏🏼

  • @tranqulitytoo
    @tranqulitytoo2 жыл бұрын

    When understanding is possible then healing can arise. Thank you eckhart for showing how this understanding is. 🙏 blessings for anyone who has this understanding and for those who have yet to receive this message as intended. 💚🌟🙏🦋

  • @cvetkapisek8785
    @cvetkapisek87852 жыл бұрын

    It is also Eckhart s great work that I become a transcender. Really great. I appreaceate this and also all of you who follow his teaching.

  • @andrecolombia09
    @andrecolombia092 жыл бұрын

    This definitely hit home for me. I'm still trying to connect the dots with how keeping and identifying yourself as a victim even if those things did happen to you give you a high sense of morality, like is it the mentality of " wow even though such and such happened to me I'm still such a good person, and I would never inflict the pain that I've felt unto others?" Bc there's definitely a huge sense of that in the world and my ego has definitely been very very guilty of this.

  • @bwade79
    @bwade79Ай бұрын

    It always cracks me up when he acts out the ego. Priceless!

  • @ashrafalboudi5341
    @ashrafalboudi53419 ай бұрын

    Much love and appreciation for these words woven by consciousness. They make me feel more liberated. Thank you, Eckhart.❤

  • @Anastasia-oy2zp
    @Anastasia-oy2zp2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your invaluable wisdom ❤️ starting from my childhood I’ve had a lot of victim identity and tons of suppressed anger and sad ness resulting therefrom because I didn’t fit in school and also grew up with emotionally neglecting parents. It’s not easy to grow up in this unconscious society and some of us experience it more than others but therefore we get the chance to become more conscious! ❤️🌸🙏 Every suffering is a chance to awaken more

  • @cristinalattuada5322
    @cristinalattuada5322 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, this is so well explained and I imagine it would be hard to listen to some and for us to recognise the victim in us. The ego is so clever, thanks for pointing this out to all of us. You’re doing a great service to humanity.

  • @pianoatthirty
    @pianoatthirty11 ай бұрын

    "Being a Victim" is so fashionable right now. This message needs to be broadcast everywhere.

  • @eanjewellery
    @eanjewellery2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your wise words.

  • @signe8321
    @signe8321 Жыл бұрын

    Ego can also be build on inferiorty.

  • @kastovt
    @kastovt2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Eckhart

  • @lewisfirth6502
    @lewisfirth65022 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much Eck-heart. Appreciated.

  • @fredphipps9452
    @fredphipps94522 жыл бұрын

    Great talk coinciding with my endless victim identity

  • @AT-eu4zu
    @AT-eu4zu9 ай бұрын

    I learnt a lot about myself from this video. Thanks Eckhart.

  • @backfromthedarkalive
    @backfromthedarkalive2 жыл бұрын

    So helpful I feel I was trapped in this identity for some time.. I am seeing it gives us no liberation.. I just watched that powerful Netfix documentary on Janet Jackson and she was so strong in never acting like a victim even when really misunderstood by society.

  • @thomasparg1981
    @thomasparg19812 жыл бұрын

    This is pure gold.

  • @lynnmcquillan2338
    @lynnmcquillan2338 Жыл бұрын

    Thankyou Eckhardt .. perhaps this teaching might help me shift the last remnants of my victim identity- I will try to release it through presence .. I think I shifted some in understanding some of your other teachings but I think I need this reminder .. it very helpful - Thankyou 🙏

  • @mr.memedovski5976
    @mr.memedovski59762 жыл бұрын

    Your Statement works from 1-8 Years NOT OVER MANY DECADES AMEN

  • @wolfesound
    @wolfesoundАй бұрын

    Complaining is so common practice that we often don't even notice we are doing it. When I complain, it's often about looking for someone to decide for me or get me out of some stuckness. Trauma can cause us to struggle with decisions as we can't trust any one path, and look for safety in others' reassurances.

  • @joysblues
    @joysblues2 жыл бұрын

    You really need to BOOST the volume and straighten out your wonky WiFi, in these videos. Thank so much for your continued outreach. This was another deep one.

  • @Grace17893
    @Grace17893 Жыл бұрын

    God bless you echarte; excellent work

  • @yellowshizzely
    @yellowshizzely2 жыл бұрын

    Kendrick brought me here. Hope to learn plenty from you, Mr Eckhart.

  • @alexeyseredyuk2123
    @alexeyseredyuk21232 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! That was exectly something i've been struggling with, and the thing is this victim identity was rejected and repressed for many years by me and by others, also by those ones who I believed were inflicting that harm to me... So like anything repressed it became stronger, hidden, etc... It is an importent step to admit and to see that identification in yourself vs trying to reject and to deny it. To admit anything that is an internal process of your mind is important, which ego and victim identification also is... which I think some of viewers could be trapped in after seeing your videos, that people could start to fight their egos, which only could imply more conflict and more suffering (who is fighting who?)... But thats because all spiritual teachers use words, which could lead to a misinterpretation.

  • @freetibet1000

    @freetibet1000

    2 жыл бұрын

    That conflict of fighting the ego, you speak of, comes from a misunderstanding of what ego “is”. A practice on the spiritual path should always be of a transcendent nature, not a war on the ego. After all, ego is just a mental construct of our own doing. Ultimately, it is only realization of wisdom that erases our false sense of self. Since this is at the core of our own being no one else can do the job for us. When insights dawn in us we know something that can never be undone again. We walk towards higher and higher levels of knowledge and wisdom and that is an irreversible process. It is this wisdom that is the antidote against inferior beliefs such as a belief in a self identity. Along the way it is often helpful to understand what the ego is built on. Victimization is certainly one such building block. Group identity based on any criteria, such as gender, race, social status are all detrimental to our own liberation from bondage. In fact, group identity is an extension of our ego that works to justify our anger, hatred, blame-game, resentment against a perceived enemy. We must remember that if we truly want to be liberated from bondage we will only find the power to do so from within ourselves. We always have the choice to choose a path away from a reinforcement of ego and self clinging. This is an on-going process, moment by moment, rather than an once-in-a-lifetime event. Since ego is continuously manifesting itself our job is to continuously work on those liberating practices that undermine and dissolves our self-clinging. That is the spiritual process towards true liberation. If we wage war on our ego it will only become more and more prominent until a monster is created. If we listen to Eckhart Tolle’s words we will find a healthy way to understand how to overcome our debilitating wrong views about ourselves.

  • @scottpoole3884
    @scottpoole38842 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for your insights. I was hoping you were going to address what one could do to diffuse this mind set. I'm guessing it's not a mental transaction as a means to give consultation but to de-energise it by returning to the present even while things seem to be triggering an underlying lack of ease.. I find if I can name the feeling and acknowledge it's a common feeling for many and not to continue to seek to validate the feeling of offence it can take some of the heat out of the initial reaction. Thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks again.

  • @veraintuizione6497
    @veraintuizione64972 жыл бұрын

    Very true as usual. My mother, sweet and so good person, wears this victim's dress and never takes it off. This fact makes me lose awareness and presence very often when I call her. Less when I go to see her because I force 😁myself to remain present. Being a victim I find it such a waste of life and energy and so useless! However, it is also true that if I lose patience and presence it means that I am NOT PRESENT AT ALL and this is given to me to go even deeper ❤️ THANKS for always being there Mr Eckart Tolle 🙏💓

  • @jacekmiksza505

    @jacekmiksza505

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, I know it too. My mom often does the same. It is a sort of defence mechanism. Being consciouss of it most of the times I let it go but sometimes I lose patience and have to utter a word or two about the annoyance of her playing those ego games. Does she understad it ? I don't know ... ;)

  • @veraintuizione6497

    @veraintuizione6497

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacekmiksza505 Thanks for your reply! Yes me too lose patience as I wrote, now less and less, anyway I perfectly understand you . I felt terrible sorry and my mother too suffered from it and this was the thing that made me suffer the most. Seriously, hurting others out of distraction, certainly not out of will, is NOW unbearable to me.There has always been this feeling of transcendence in me. I have always looked for it since I was a little girl and Tolle's teachings have been a real revelation for me. I have always looked for to know what WE REALLY ARE so I observed all I could, I was reading all I could but E. Tolle teachings have been the keystone. Now when I see my mother or call me if she catches me off guard (you know life as it is) I stop for a moment and say to myself "stay PRESENT". IT Works. It's the simplest thing in the world and we make it so hard! Your words are undoubtedly the words of a son who loves his mother so even if they were said in a difficult moment I am convinced that she knows perfectly well that behind your words there is only love, nothing but that! I am convinced that you are a wonderful son! 🙏✨🌟⭐

  • @jacekmiksza505

    @jacekmiksza505

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@veraintuizione6497 Yes, thanks. The reason behind those words is not that we want to fight back, but that we care, that we love, as you said it. The worst that can happen in any ralationship is indifference. As Osho once said "...if someone no longer cares to express any emotions, not even anger with us, then that relationship has died completely... " And I see so much indifference around ...sad. E. Tolle is certainly an amazing mystic, par excellence, but it was from Osho that I have absorbed most of the wisdom. Maybe because I came across his teaching years before Eckhart, over 20 yeras ago. But I don't compare them, not in the least. Both are unique in their own ways.

  • @veraintuizione6497

    @veraintuizione6497

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacekmiksza505 Yes they are unique and the same thing contemporary. At the end of the story there's only Consciusness...I perfectly understand what you meant about relationships and indifference...So true and SO said... We are living a robotic times, these are very strange times where a cold indifference and obtuse sloppiness are accompanied by a ferocious rage. They made a god out of money. I don't think they know what they're doing. Do you remember the words' Jesus ?Father forgive them because they do not know what they do. " But we know which path to follow .. Do not worry we have to remain present in the Truth. This only matters.🙏🌃🌟⭐✨

  • @vangestelwijnen
    @vangestelwijnen5 ай бұрын

    I have dear family members who have a very strong victim identity. It's easier now for me, 'because they do not know better'. Thank your Mr Tolle!

  • @anmollpokhrel
    @anmollpokhrel2 жыл бұрын

    I have internalised him so much that my body has adopted his mannerisms. Even my facial hair has become like his. Also, when I talk about presence with my friends, I feel like he talks through me. He resides in my heart these days. I have known joy of life through him. I can never thank him enough. 🙏

  • @rationalmystic5

    @rationalmystic5

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope u are talking about Eckhart and not your abuser.🙏👍😃

  • @rationalmystic5

    @rationalmystic5

    2 жыл бұрын

    By the way ...I'm the same way. I find myself talking in the style of Eckhart tolle and Sam Harris very often. Wish you well.

  • @anmollpokhrel

    @anmollpokhrel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rationalmystic5 In the abuser is Eckhart and in the abused is also Eckhart. Eckhart is in the time and Eckhart is outside time. Eckhart is in the manifested and Eckhart is in the unmenifested. Eckhart is everywhere. Who else is there?

  • @jimminykricket4067

    @jimminykricket4067

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes Eckhart is a cool but I'm sensing a little too much guru worship in these comments. I invite you all to consider the possibility that instead of the notion that you are adopting other individuals mannerisms or personality instead you are matching the vibration they are emanating at that moment. These leaders are still human and as such fallible at moments. It is best to follow a loving message and not a loving messenger.

  • @anmollpokhrel

    @anmollpokhrel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jimminykricket4067 My friend you seem to have missed the jist. When I say "he speaks through me" what I mean is - the doer melts and the witness speaks. And when I say "he resides in my heart" what I mean is I have found the center. When the center expands, the ego melts and when the ego melts, the inside and the outside become one. From the inside, the one watches its own expansion outside. The "you" that is the hindrance in realisation of the one melts and the one is realised. And my friend, there is nothing wrong with guru worship. It is through Eckhart that I realised the one and it is in Eckhart that I first sensed the reflection of the one. There comes a time in your awakening when the one and your guru become one and the same. When a Satguru is found, you don't have to do anything. You just open your heart towards him and the rest will happen on its own. A Satguru is the most compassionate one because he tries to explain the "thing or no thing" through words because it can only be experienced but cannot be explained in words. Nevertheless, he tries. For countless lifetimes, he searches for the truth and he discovers the truth in his current life. The door gets opened for him, yet out of his compassion, he stays here so that he can bring the fragrance from the beyond and give others a taste of what he has discovered. He delays his "MahaParinirvana" for us. This is how compassionate Satguru Eckhart is. 🙏

  • @JCB333of
    @JCB333of11 ай бұрын

    Yes. Thank you.

  • @giselar.12
    @giselar.122 жыл бұрын

    🌸Thank you very much, for this teaching.🌸 Liebe Grüße aus Remscheid.🤗😘🙏

  • @nabechannel1921
    @nabechannel19212 жыл бұрын

    Very Important Speciali for me Thanks so much for sharing 🙏🙏🙏💕💕💕🌿🌿🌿

  • @cloudsofwonder7004
    @cloudsofwonder70042 жыл бұрын

    Amazing thank you Eckhart

  • @Michael-0490
    @Michael-049010 ай бұрын

    I really needed to hear that.

  • @cordefilosofiche
    @cordefilosofiche2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙏

  • @cagard
    @cagard2 жыл бұрын

    Good to know and recognize when i experience victim identity happening to me so i have a choice.

  • @MissNatalonga
    @MissNatalonga2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for bringing this up. I feel that for a while now society has been encouraging and rewarding victim mentality. It may have come from a noble place, from wanting to recognize and be there for legitimate victims, but it has degenerated into something bordering on lunacy in my opinion. Right now the more you present yourself as a victim, the more you are given a platform and people bend over backwards to accommodate you.

  • @lemurianchick

    @lemurianchick

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's nothing noble about it. It's all about disempowerment, which makes it easier for the Archons to remain in control.

  • @a.lovellh2141

    @a.lovellh2141

    Жыл бұрын

    Megan and Harry described to a T.

  • @joannaconway3476
    @joannaconway3476 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much

  • @jeraldbaxter3532
    @jeraldbaxter353210 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @skovenshelse3781
    @skovenshelse37812 жыл бұрын

    Tanks for your visdom.🙏❤️

  • @elisae5658
    @elisae5658 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @paolov5011
    @paolov50112 жыл бұрын

    Thank You Eckhtrt for This !!! DO YOU ,OR ANYBODY THAT SEES THIS REQUEST HAVE SUGGESTIONS HOW TO HEAL IN THE BEST WAY TROUGH ANY KIND OF PROCESS ? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE LOVE AND LIGHT

  • @hammerbet7140
    @hammerbet71402 жыл бұрын

    This speech is very profound. It made me to remember the moments when I was striving to identify myself as a victim - in workplace, with relatives, in relationships and etc. It's very important to recognize such tendencies in yourself and to draw the line between the ego and the right thoughts. In order to do this, one has to train this in his everyday life and it should give a result. Just as a physical training.

  • @annabellacrewe8858

    @annabellacrewe8858

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi ! Believe I was trained though childhood: my ego being a Victim can justify a lot, fex anxiety, fear ! - This talk is very profound - my ego is bigger, while being a victim to others ! Oh, oh ! Transcendense must be rehearsed !❤

  • @annabellacrewe8858

    @annabellacrewe8858

    2 жыл бұрын

    In fact one is not free, when ego has the power ! I have to meditate every Day !

  • @hammerbet7140

    @hammerbet7140

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@annabellacrewe8858 meditation is of great importance but our consciousness in every interaction with people around us even is of greater impact.

  • @annabellacrewe8858

    @annabellacrewe8858

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hammerbet7140 the two go together !

  • @lizhao6979
    @lizhao69792 жыл бұрын

    Master,you are right.

  • @dennisjonker4804
    @dennisjonker4804 Жыл бұрын

    I.. Should bookmark this and watch it daily. He had me ego-monologuing. Objectively I agree with everything he said, but subjectively I felt rage and resentment for my past and how I was treated by "my detractors" at the time. But I need to find a way to move on.

  • @markfuller

    @markfuller

    Жыл бұрын

    The past isn't real. It's just a story we tell ourselves. The only thing that's real is this present moment. Yes, the past may have caused the present moment to be what it is. Maybe if your father hadn't re-married you would have had a different life, other opportunities, gone to medical school, been more... but even those people are never happy either. You'd probably be one of them too. Ultimately it doesn't matter because there's no going back and changing it. It is what it is. You can begrudge it, letting the past continue to affect you in the now (through your own narrative to yourself). Or, accept what is. It's the only thing that's real.

  • @dennisjonker4804

    @dennisjonker4804

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markfuller Thanks for this insight.

  • @KeyMan94
    @KeyMan94 Жыл бұрын

    That was a really good explanation and makes total sense - I would've wished a kind of solution in this video in the end - how to solve that or start changing perspectives.

  • @markfuller

    @markfuller

    Жыл бұрын

    Whenever you feel like a victim, wronged, deserving of something (someone else didn't provide, took away from you), think of it as ego. That sounds counter-intuitive. Ego is glory, grandiosity, revelling in "winning." It's overt, bragging, satisfied above anyone else. But, ego is more like Smegal/Gollum (lord of the rings, "my precious...."). It's decrepid, craven. It can get all that more typical "ego supply" from being wounded, demoted, the victim. Its all relative.The less-intuitive egoic supply implies "I should have the more intuitive supply. I'm entitled to it. Big time." The "pain body" is a stealthy way to be the more overt, grandiose (denied their position). There's some middle ground between acknowledging injustice, setbacks. The problem is over-identifying with it. The overt/grandiose ego is the flip side of that same coin. Nothing wrong with acknowledging success, skills, traits one is fortunate to have. The problem is over-identifying with them (strutting, bragging). Victims of wrongs do the same thing (mourning excessively for themselves). Maybe think of it that way when you find yourself wronged, feeling like a victim (too much). What's the implication of that? Expecting the now to be something it isn't? Just like the conspicuously fortunate person who is merely lucky that the now meets their expectations (and wears it on their sleeve for all to see)? Someone recently said "expectations are premeditated resentments." That's true. The commonality between a vainly conceited person and a vainly victimized person is expectations. The former simply hasn't reached resentment yet.

  • @naturalphilosophy9649
    @naturalphilosophy96498 ай бұрын

    Thankyou ❤

  • @weaamkhalid2478
    @weaamkhalid24782 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 💞🌌🌳

  • @JEBBY123IFY
    @JEBBY123IFY Жыл бұрын

    Many people find using DMT has really helped them she'd the ego and see everything clearly. I have dealt with so much narcissism and dysfunction abuse trauma in my life and now I'm ill and I wish I had woken up years ago! So thankful for Mr Tolle!🕊️

  • @johndoran8638

    @johndoran8638

    Жыл бұрын

    What’s DMT

  • @markfuller

    @markfuller

    Жыл бұрын

    Cannabis played a big role in my awakening 10 years ago. It (and DMT, psylicibin) put you above thought (behind thought). They put you closer to your subconscious from which thought -- even your entire conscious experience -- emerge (95% of your brain is subconcious, and produces your thoughts, emotions, experience of reality). The subconscious is irrational, the result of a war between the left & right hemispheres. Out of all of that our conscious experience (thoughts, feelings) _emerge_ and that tiny bit of emergent presence believes it's responsible for everything, being conscious itself. It rationalizes what emerges. It's "beneath thought." Subject to it. Those substances can give a glimpse of how it really is. Like dreaming while awake. That can be a rough experience if you're heavily identified with thought, the emergent sense of self/reality. When I hear people say "I tried cannabis and didn't like how it made me feel," I think they need to continue trying it (once a week, month, year. Anything's better than "never again."). I think their experience betrays that they identify with being beneath thought (with thought) and being without thought (above thought) is unpleasant. A loss of seeming control, or repressed trauma may come to the surface without the distraction of thought/narrative. Black Sabbath's "Sweet Leaf" lyrics are real: "Won't you listen? When I first met you didn't realize / I can't forget you for your surprise / You introduced me to my mind / And left me wanting you and your kind." (Again, all things in moderation. Becoming a stoner might not be good. But, using it just for insight really helped me.

  • @carmenr.r.8112
    @carmenr.r.81122 жыл бұрын

    Gracias siempre 🙏🏼 💜 🙇🏼‍♀️ 🌈

  • @starflower7498
    @starflower7498 Жыл бұрын

    sending you lots of 💕

  • @ivee111
    @ivee1112 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙏🏻💜🙏🏻💙

  • @jamiepoist3492
    @jamiepoist34922 жыл бұрын

    Oof-we all need this 🙏💜♾

  • @i-witnesstransparencynews7857

    @i-witnesstransparencynews7857

    2 жыл бұрын

    No just something the ego needs to hear. The real you doesn't have any problems or unconsciousness to deal with. That all happens with who you think you are but you are not really who you think you are. The mind is what thinks "I" and personalizes that thought. Where the true Self doesn't think I, and thus never says "I" but it is the true I without the word or self-concepts. So with that being said, it is the mind that "needs" to hear this message because it is the mind that doesn't understand its own true nature which is nothing mental.

  • @WeeHgt

    @WeeHgt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for saying “all” and thank you Eckhart Tolle for saying “some have been victimized more than others.” Several mainstream narratives are fighting for who is most victimized, many are projecting when they tell people to “stop acting like victims” when really they’re just tired of hearing about the problems of marginalized people, and they feel victimized by always hearing about things they don’t care about. They do this without realizing that it isn’t weird for marginalized people to want to speak up. Ultimately, the best solution is for individuals to awaken to their own egoic tendencies, I am grateful for the opportunity to do so in my life. Then one can begin to respond to people who are either just complaining or legitimately struggling for dignified survival with more grace and understanding, less circular arguing.

  • @carolwhitley5005

    @carolwhitley5005

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love this reply! So innocent and fun! And humor does break through the ego! 😊🙏🏻

  • @thabisosethole9409
    @thabisosethole94092 жыл бұрын

    Peace....

  • @anamuraro
    @anamuraro9 ай бұрын

    Nice insight ❤❤

  • @TheNikolausl
    @TheNikolausl5 ай бұрын

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @EckhartTolle

    @EckhartTolle

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching.

  • @TheNikolausl

    @TheNikolausl

    5 ай бұрын

    @@EckhartTollekann ich der Raum für das sein... ?🐣♥🙏

  • @TheNeoness
    @TheNeoness Жыл бұрын

    Whats with the flash of a womans face at 8 minutes 29 seconds?

  • @simonhitchenk9
    @simonhitchenk9 Жыл бұрын

    Eckart, you have brilliantly highlighted the route cause of many of the problems in western culture. 👍

  • @sassi7966
    @sassi7966 Жыл бұрын

    This is why I stopped watching anything on narcissistic abuse. I was beginning to "see" that everyone in my life was a narcissistic abuser. They say cut these people out. And I did. Until I had only one person left. Who also showed narc tendencies. And I realised that I would just end up completely alone. Someone said in a YT video comment about narcs that "don't you people realise how hypocritical you all are?!" And I thought about that. At first I was hurt (my victim identity/my ego), but I then realised the identity that all the narc victims had was collectively looking down on all these mean people as bad, and they themselves, the nice people, as good. Not only that but the victim mentality was hard to give up, some other people were saying, like me, they were addicted to "learning" as much as they could watching narc videos every day. Now I geddit. It does give you your power back in a way. But at what cost? To lose everyone in your life? To split up marriages, break up families, lose your children, have no friends and no job? Cos everyone is mean to you? I say no. Sure, keep your distance with some people, don't engage with them very much, don't react to their goading, don't show emotion.. but they are still just people. Like us. Of course, if there is imminent danger to life, leave them and seek legal advice. But all this other stuff. People being constantly mean. There must be a better way to deal with it. And here, Eckhart makes sense 👍 and provides answers. And you know what, once you feel your own sense of inner peace, not much these mean people do, can upset you any more. And I feel that they can sense your newfound inner "confidence", your serenity, your peace and they stop baiting you. They pull back. Their narc radar for you turns off. They either implode and back off, or just go and find someone else to inflict their unconsciousness onto. 😊👍 Oh and BTW, this message needs to be out there for those other "victims of narcissistic abuse". I will certainly be advising people of it. Plus, if others don't agree, that is fine with them. I'm not pushing my opinion on anyone who doesn't want to accept it. Also, if you have serious abuse in your past, you could report it to the authorities. I was recently asked by my psychiatrist if I wanted to report historical abuse and I said no at the time. I often think about that. It would be a way to get heard and be recognised. But I am more interested in finding my own inner peace.

  • @markfuller

    @markfuller

    Жыл бұрын

    I've seen the same tendency (trend). It's been my impression that people obsessed with learning more about Ns are distracting themselves from more fundamental & productive questions about themself. Typically, when you hear the story of their experience with an N, there were tons of warning signs, seduction. There is a definite co-dependent type that is more easily mesmerized by an N; they push each other's buttons in ways other people don't. Victims of Ns often make the N out to be supernatural, demonic, evil to explain how the victim succumbed. IMO, that's a cop-out. A way to avoid asking hard questions about one's own self. "How did I allow this to happen? How did I not see it? What was I getting out of it?" Sure, they were lied to, manipulated, preyed upon. Ns are extremely counter-dependent. They "supply" their need for a mirror through others in that way. Some people more than others fall for it. (I've seen people who have, as you described, endless Ns in their life. Seeing Ns under every rock they overturn. Once again, why that one person and not everyone else seeing the same thing? It goes from blind acceptance of a real N who others would see through pretty quickly, to seeing Ns everywhere where most people don't. This kind of mentality should be a warning sign that it's not the N who was the entire problem.). Usually there's some kind of co-dependency problem within the victim. Or, the N stirred some past experience to re-live again. Or, a fairy-tale belief that something can be extraordinarly special (knight in shining armor; love-bombing is "real" affection/valuation). There's so many warning signs that were usually ignored. The'd be better served contemplating that than developing an unnatural fascination with what is essentially mental illness, imbuing it with concepts of evil, demons. They give the N free room & board in their head that way. Ns lack boundaries -- and their victims often do too. That's where the positive can be found. "No contact" means no-contact. If a person can't get the N out of their head, it's that person who has a problem they'd benefit more from than becoming a "narc hunter."

  • @amin_abdollahi_369
    @amin_abdollahi_3694 ай бұрын

    Thankyou😊❤🙏

  • @chiluditospro2
    @chiluditospro22 жыл бұрын

    Literally the woke people It's all ego "look at me! Please!" Eckhart thank you for all this knowledge. Master of masters.

  • @chiluditospro2

    @chiluditospro2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaymidavern2620 thank you for your response. I called him master of masters more as a manner of speech, it's a personal sign of appreciation I have for his teaching because it was through a very rough time in my life with depression that unintentionally I had an awakening experience, a brief time of enlightenment... And coincidentally I started meeting people Aligned with this and his book the power of now came through dude at my gym that was annoying me that wouldn't stop talking and he told me "I don't know why but I think I have a book that you'd like" (Never seen the dude before). When I read the power of now it was a 100% accurate description of what had happened to me which I was kind of ignoring cause I thought I was going crazy and he*taught* me through his book that this was actually a thing. After that I started practicing meditation and mindfulness and managed to expericne the same a few times after. So he taught me how to interpret my expericne, through his experience. So if I say master, I say it more as a "thank you" but I don't see him now as my superior, I even stopped reading or watching any of his videos to avoid any pedestalizing, and also because I think I've learnt all I needed. Now it's just doing, contemplating, action of what I've learnt.

  • @peteypickles3262

    @peteypickles3262

    2 жыл бұрын

    WOKE: : "aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)" - VICTIM: "one that is injured, destroyed, or sacrificed under any of various conditions; one that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment; one that is tricked or duped; a living being sacrificed to a deity or in the performance of a religious rite" WOKE vs. VICTIM - 2 different things

  • @chiluditospro2

    @chiluditospro2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peteypickles3262 Agree. Unfortunately people who are woke behave like victims, so that's why a sane person will conflate those words. Cheers

  • @freespirit9806
    @freespirit9806 Жыл бұрын

    Self righteousness is ego. Really hard to get rid of

  • @braddouglas5596
    @braddouglas55969 ай бұрын

    Ty

  • @peterknyk1942
    @peterknyk19422 жыл бұрын

    Growing up I was abused physically, emotionally and sexually! I have not found a place within me for forgiveness for any of these horrific things that were done to me. Sometimes I feel I was a victim but in reality I was victimized by people who didn't care who they hurt and I just happened to be there, a target, for them to take out on me whatever it was that was going on in them at that time....You are so right, Eckhart, this is simply the condition of human life on this earth. So sad! 😔

  • @yvonneh5334

    @yvonneh5334

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peter K NYK, I hear you. Oh the trauma/pain you must have suffered at the hands of unconscious people in your life. So sorry for your pain. As Eckhart is teaching us, we should not let the victimization we experienced become our identity. You are NOT a victim. Forgiveness will come when you have compassionate understanding that the people who hurt you did so from a state of unconsciousness, having no awareness of the true essence of their being. Remember, when Jesus was crucified he stated, "Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do."

  • @peterknyk1942

    @peterknyk1942

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yvonneh5334 thank you so very much for your wonderful compassionate comment! Letting go of the victimization is what I need to learn to do. Thank you so much for pointing out just that. Yes, the trauma/pain that I went through was often unbearable. Eckhart often points out that in acceptance one can find freedom! We can hope that that is possible! 🙏🏻 Thank you so much!

  • @funnydadstuff

    @funnydadstuff

    2 жыл бұрын

    The forgiveness is for yourself. Similar to a mom, forgiving a driver who killed her son. She does not want to hold that anger inside, forgiveness releases it. Forgiveness is not forgetting, as well man is accountable to the justice system. A mom may forgive her childs killer, but he still goes to jail for a long time.

  • @98Johnathanholman
    @98Johnathanholman3 ай бұрын

    "centre for inner peace "

  • @ghanem.sbaih87
    @ghanem.sbaih87 Жыл бұрын

    thank you to free us from self identification

  • @serenlove3270
    @serenlove32702 жыл бұрын

    As always great advice. On a polite note it's difficult for me to listen at times as the sound is not so clear. I think I'm noise sensitive and it hurts my ears. Much love ❤️

  • @lindsay5305

    @lindsay5305

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too. A quality speaker blue toothed helps

  • @IsabellaMendes
    @IsabellaMendes9 ай бұрын

    Incredible! Well said