How to deal with HATERS: understanding the nature of the problem

As soon as you stand up and run the risk of being somebody, you cast a shadow. One element of that shadow is a body of antagonists that is subject to trying to denounce and destroy you. These are haters. However, haters don't actually hate as much as they envy. In this episode, I discuss how envy works and how to respond to the envious.
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  • @psychacks
    @psychacks9 ай бұрын

    As soon as you stand up and run the risk of being somebody, you cast a shadow. One element of that shadow is a body of antagonists that is subject to trying to denounce and destroy you. These are haters. However, haters don't actually hate as much as they envy. In this episode, I discuss how envy works and how to respond to the envious. Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaaMpNyKYquqdbQ.html Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzread.info/dron/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXw.htmljoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #emotions #courage

  • @Duge6124

    @Duge6124

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks, I would also suggest making a piece on jealousy, I find these two emotions (envy and jealousy)quite confusing and would love to dismantle both negative emotions. Great video btw

  • @griffydz1789

    @griffydz1789

    9 ай бұрын

    Powerful first minutes, from 0 to 1:50 I can perfectly see the crowds you are describing opposing Musk and many others hated for no explaniable reason.

  • @griffydz1789

    @griffydz1789

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Duge6124 Interesting point, also the fact of feeling left out, if its someone from your family or tribe doing something grand, you will not mind, but if its not some people might get jealous or angry.

  • @momen78699

    @momen78699

    9 ай бұрын

    @psychacks Please do more videos on how to attract women in the short term. Your videos are great but would appreciate more of this content. Thanks!

  • @spocktiberius2456

    @spocktiberius2456

    9 ай бұрын

    An important thing I’ve come to realize is that we live in a reality of opposites. For every concept you can think of, that concept has its opposite. You can’t have up without down, in without out, good without evil, Yin without Yang etc.. therefore it stands to reason that if there is to be persons who celebrate your successes, you will have those who will be envious. The key to dealing with the haters is to accept the nature of things as they are and search for methods to deal with the negatives that allow you to be at peace which is the ultimate goal. Look for the accompanying positive of every negative. It is there. For negative cannot exist without it.

  • @arielcandoleta5347
    @arielcandoleta53479 ай бұрын

    "The best revenge is to not be like your enemy" - Marcus Aurelius.

  • @artawhirler
    @artawhirler9 ай бұрын

    As somebody once said, "Light attracts bugs." 😅

  • @Evermore2017
    @Evermore20179 ай бұрын

    The solution is to not care. That’s inner work.

  • @themainediverschannel4495
    @themainediverschannel44959 ай бұрын

    What is scary is the amount of haters all around us and it seems to be increasing by head count day in day out.

  • @chikotembo

    @chikotembo

    9 ай бұрын

    Dare I say the jibby jabby is the cause!

  • @ChrisPTY507
    @ChrisPTY5079 ай бұрын

    You will never be criticized by people doing more than you. You will only be criticized by people doing less. Hate always comes from beneath. Hate always comes from beneath you; people never get jealous of losers.

  • @GigaChad_169

    @GigaChad_169

    9 ай бұрын

    This is SO true! Thanks for distilling down this fact.

  • @53strat55

    @53strat55

    9 ай бұрын

    True true

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    This is so false. We can see rich people hating the poor everyday.

  • @Tina61867

    @Tina61867

    7 ай бұрын

    But jealousy and hate are different. Humans are jealous of someone who's ahead of them but they can hate you if you have wronged them even if you are beneath them

  • @ChrisPTY507

    @ChrisPTY507

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Tina61867 You’d be surprised how many people harbor feelings of hatred and jealousy towards you simultaneously, especially if you are above them. Their hatred often stems from their jealousy of your accomplishments.

  • @Guildofarcanelore
    @Guildofarcanelore9 ай бұрын

    Envy is a difficult emotion. I’m a novelist, that hasn’t sold any books. There are two famous novelists who I knew from High School. I reached out to them, for their insights and got varied responses. I could shake my fist at the heavens and ask God why he hates me so much, or I can look at my former schoolmates as inspiration; knowing it can done because they did it. You have to find a way to turn your envy into something useful.

  • @annelouisemaclellan485

    @annelouisemaclellan485

    9 ай бұрын

    This is the best way to approach envy I would say. Take inspiration from those you envy and work hard.

  • @snapman218

    @snapman218

    9 ай бұрын

    Or maybe you aren’t meant to be a writer

  • @Guildofarcanelore

    @Guildofarcanelore

    9 ай бұрын

    @@snapman218 maybe. I’ve been a lot of other things to pay the bills and write on the side. Soldier, parking warden, call center rep, civilian contractor, english language teacher, and who knows what next. I have sold poems and short stories, but no novels..yet.

  • @Bocin544

    @Bocin544

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Guildofarcanelore Nah you got this bro Listen to your heart and make what you want. Don’t pay mind to anything that blocks you. What's the idea of the story you're working on?

  • @alexmuenster2102

    @alexmuenster2102

    9 ай бұрын

    >>I’m a novelist, that hasn’t sold any books.

  • @lesterdiamond6190
    @lesterdiamond61909 ай бұрын

    For years I’ve said that Envy is the deadliest of the Deadly Sins, and will motivate people to do worse things, and sooner, than any other emotion.

  • @btchiaintkidding7837

    @btchiaintkidding7837

    7 ай бұрын

    Darksiders 3 agrees lmao

  • @samwellington2330
    @samwellington23309 ай бұрын

    I have grown apart from my family, high school friends and ex-colleagues. I can resonate with this. I think daring to walk alone is important.

  • @dudejoe8390
    @dudejoe83909 ай бұрын

    Anyone noticed the similarity between this video and the one about how growth can kill relationships? It seems the people similar or close to us are hit hardest by our shadow... but only because they have not done the internal work required to not perceive it as damage.

  • @aleewoolley

    @aleewoolley

    9 ай бұрын

    Well said.

  • @hypocrita6685
    @hypocrita66859 ай бұрын

    It's fascinating to work this out backwards, noticing the envy in yourself when positive things happen to your peers.

  • @josiah5776

    @josiah5776

    9 ай бұрын

    Indeed. Valuable mirror there if one will look into it.

  • @Phoenix-Brah

    @Phoenix-Brah

    9 ай бұрын

    Does take some moral courage to admit that's for sure.

  • @ricardosilveyradelagarza6902

    @ricardosilveyradelagarza6902

    9 ай бұрын

    This happened to me recently. I've been sharing my life knowledge with my younger brother, and I believe my influence, support, and encouragement have helped to guide him into becoming a better man. As I didn't get much of this kind of support early in life, and have had to learn many things the hard way, I have felt envy for him. Fortunately, I've learned to acknowledge these feelings, and allow them to be without identifying with them. I love him, and I hope he keeps on striving to become great in his own way.

  • @KC-lg8qf

    @KC-lg8qf

    9 ай бұрын

    absolutely nothing wrong with feeling a little bit of envy. It's what you do about it that really counts..... I hate her will direct desire towards the one he's envious of. Or try to sabotage them. Even if I feel a bit envious I always try to encourage and congratulate that person.

  • @billyb4790

    @billyb4790

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah I got to admit I was feeling a bit called out. I like to think I’m. Ever this way but deep inside maybe we all are at times.

  • @user-hl1ct3yh1r
    @user-hl1ct3yh1r9 ай бұрын

    Wow I’ve recently been struggling with feeling alone and I realized it’s not because I’m lonely or don’t enjoy my solitude, rather, it’s because the people I am surrounded by (accidentally) are not my kind of people.

  • @themainediverschannel4495
    @themainediverschannel44959 ай бұрын

    Dont try with haters to kill them with kindness, torture them with your success after youve booted their asses outta your life.

  • @toxicmale2264

    @toxicmale2264

    9 ай бұрын

    yay! torture!

  • @mmp495

    @mmp495

    5 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @mustangstuff7213

    @mustangstuff7213

    2 ай бұрын

    Nah. You care to much. Let it go.

  • @rifleman42051
    @rifleman420519 ай бұрын

    Ignore the haters cuz they know your greater! Use your haters as a fuel source! They will even hate you more for doing that!

  • @shineyconker
    @shineyconker9 ай бұрын

    Gosh this really resonates. That's why I had to let go of old friends that lived in the town I grew up in, once I lived somewhere else I noticed how people responded to me differently. Also, when a hater comes for me, I visualise them talking with the Charlie Brown teacher voice, that defuses a reaction from both them and me 😁

  • @seanwilson75

    @seanwilson75

    9 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @rogerm3708

    @rogerm3708

    9 ай бұрын

    Your old friends want to hold on to your past and keep you there. It gives them comfort. Your only choice is to cut them loose if they refuse to accept that you are changing. I did this 10 years ago because their interference was too great for me to overcome

  • @Jason.Goldstriker

    @Jason.Goldstriker

    9 ай бұрын

    Bucket crabs are a thing but you also can’t get new old friends so gota just do what you think is best, good luck.

  • @loveletter543

    @loveletter543

    2 ай бұрын

    Way to go pal🎉

  • @LikeToWatch77
    @LikeToWatch779 ай бұрын

    I think that envy between parents and children is another place where it can show up. Fathers can be envious of the attention that children get from the mother. Mothers can be envious of the attention their children get from the world.

  • @davidrosenfeld5525

    @davidrosenfeld5525

    9 ай бұрын

    So true

  • @Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns

    @Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns

    9 ай бұрын

    So immature as well! What happened to love?

  • @mmp495

    @mmp495

    5 ай бұрын

    That is so crazy to me!? I have seen parents jealous of their adult children's success...another mind blower.

  • @johnbrill7909
    @johnbrill79094 ай бұрын

    As we go through difficulties in life, it is useful to double check, from time to time, that you aren't just surrounded by assholes.

  • @gregoryporch8395
    @gregoryporch83959 ай бұрын

    In my experience, envious people are also the least likely to change, and only claim to have changed when it can appeal to vanity.

  • @daktraveler56
    @daktraveler569 ай бұрын

    Haters help me stay focused and driven. Its like you need haters, otherwise, you wouldn't have as much incentive to pursue your goals. I like it when people tell me " you can't do this," if for no other reason than to prove them wrong.

  • @danielfarmer7372
    @danielfarmer73726 ай бұрын

    I don't say this lightly: this channel is insanely edifying to one's understanding of life itself. I don't know how else to phrase it, but the feeling of hearing something and having that aha moment where this gentleman puts into words something you've only felt, is pure enlightenment.

  • @flemutter7211
    @flemutter72119 ай бұрын

    You can’t convince me this world isn’t spiritual. It’s like people are unconsciously working to ensure you don’t individuate and contribute to the world. Who can stand before envy ?- proverbs 27:4….. in other words precisely what Dr Taraban said. NO CONTACT is the response to it. Don’t stand before it. I also carry on me 24/7. Another great vid.

  • @Khan-rz8qi
    @Khan-rz8qi9 ай бұрын

    Let’s be honest, haters make up a huge part of our motivations to reach our goals and stand on our beliefs. Competition makes the world go round, it pushes us to create and elevate. And I wouldn’t like it any other way. Game on!💯

  • @rahfx5485

    @rahfx5485

    9 ай бұрын

    Right but in the situations between siblings and friends competition quickly turns to toxicity, anger, and eventually violence.

  • @flemutter7211

    @flemutter7211

    9 ай бұрын

    @@rahfx5485ding ding. Competition is different from envy. Competition seeks to be better than, envy seeks to extinguish.

  • @readerrabbit6690

    @readerrabbit6690

    9 ай бұрын

    That’s spite. Better to set your goals in a frame of positivity, not spite.

  • @eQuariuz

    @eQuariuz

    9 ай бұрын

    "If you have good news, keep it to yourself." Good advice right there, in general. The person that this is referring to, they are the kind of hater I think of when watching this video. I had a series of good news financial events over the past year, and one particular friend would react negatively to each bit of good news. doom and gloom, "it's not for sure though..right?". "I wouldn't get too excited". "I'd rather do so and so...". I realized that this person was just envious and I should stop sharing the seemingly never ending series of good financial news events. It was not possible to include the person in the good news events, so best to stop sharing, or to share it in a mediocre or self deprecating manner.

  • @JustMe-999a

    @JustMe-999a

    9 ай бұрын

    No

  • @spocktiberius2456
    @spocktiberius24569 ай бұрын

    Your assessment is spot on. I’ve experienced this my whole adult life which has led to to be somewhat reclusive. It feels better to be alone and at peace with one’s self than to be surrounded by people(friends, relatives, girlfriends, coworkers, etc..) who under the guise of friendship and support, secretly hope for your demise. If you’re gonna have friends, make sure they are someone you look up to, respect and admire.

  • @munequa81

    @munequa81

    9 ай бұрын

    I can definitely relate! I like the peace and quiet, though I could put myself out there more professionally...on my own terms.

  • @kaptenmike
    @kaptenmike9 ай бұрын

    It is said that envy is man's most difficult emotion to admit to. People would more readily confess to murder and child grape before they say " I am envious of my best friend's success".

  • @Denmosocial
    @Denmosocial9 ай бұрын

    So basically- ignore and do not respond to haters. Great video homie

  • @yuris6125
    @yuris61259 ай бұрын

    I liked one phrase that I saw somewhere online: I would say that my haters are my motivators, but I don't want to give them that much credit. 👆🏿

  • @Kamabushi999
    @Kamabushi9999 ай бұрын

    Envy is like picking up molten rock to throw at someone

  • @davidbellecy1709
    @davidbellecy17099 ай бұрын

    Haters going to hate. Be well everyone.

  • @Hellcatrav
    @HellcatravАй бұрын

    This is spot on! Realised that my “closest” friend who I thought I knew for 10 years was my biggest hater with a mask. Don’t trust anybody from your “circle”

  • @josiah5776
    @josiah57769 ай бұрын

    I've run into this type of hating a lot with people who also display narcissistic traits. And thank you Dr. Taraban, for putting so much valuable information into 10 minutes of video.

  • @GigaChad_169

    @GigaChad_169

    9 ай бұрын

    Yup, my mother was envious of my career and tried to tear me down emotionally over her insecurities of not being able to accomplish much career wise in her life. It hurts when family would rather belittle you and hope you fail just to make themselves feel better. I also know a guy who spends most of his time throwing money around trying to impress people. He doesn’t make much money and any time someone in our social group gets interested in my career or makes a comment about my car or house, he feels the need to interject and control the narrative for some strange reason. He’s 45 and still lives with his parents and I own my own home and make more money than he does. I don’t make an issue about money when socializing but it becomes obvious over time the disparity.

  • @josiah5776

    @josiah5776

    9 ай бұрын

    @@GigaChad_169 My mom did similar with me, but not over my career. She just wanted me to be her slave for a lifetime. When I refused, she got nasty and mobilized the entire family against me. I cut them of too. Don't miss any of them. It did hurt at first, but life as been so much more peaceful. The guy throwing money around sounds a lot like my (now deceased) father. These types seem to be all over the places.

  • @stephanie7572
    @stephanie75729 ай бұрын

    All I can say to this is "Brilliant." If I had known this 30 or 40 years ago I would not have looked to the wrong people for validation and would have been way more successful.

  • @JustinRathbone
    @JustinRathbone9 ай бұрын

    Excellent video. I worked a lot on myself last year (to the point where there were a couple local news stories about me) and when I found success in life it was then that some of my childhood friends became envious and cast stones in my direction. Even when you spread a positive message such as promoting strength and wellbeing, others will find a way to make you the enemy. It is certainly true that none of the people casting stones in my direction are doing better than me.

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    It often depend on your attitude toward your friend group. Often the people screeching "muh friends became envious" started boasting, being condescending and having contempt. Good people try to rise others up. Bad people walk on them to achieve their goals.

  • @gergelymagyarosi9285
    @gergelymagyarosi92859 ай бұрын

    Objection to a few key points: 1. You can expect most people to misunderstand your position, not just haters. 2. Cain & Abel's story is also about perceived injustice and favoritism. Not the best analogy. 3. A scam artist would also find it difficult to work in his home community. It's not necessarily about envy. It's about knowing the person. The criticism may be legit.

  • @m2pozad

    @m2pozad

    9 ай бұрын

    Disagree. Most people don't know, nor don't give a twit, what your positions are. The one's who do, may be among the twisted trouble makers. Cain had mental issues. Misperceptions don't produce injustice and favoritism. Misperceptions become the rationale for retribution. Ultimately for being born inferior to others.

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't brag about that if i were you. Sound like you just gave up and now participate in injustice. Making the world a shittier place.

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    These kind of videos are intended. They share half truths that won't hinder their channel. Then it comfort the shysters, the greedoes, the vain, the condescending, etc. that became morally bankrupt. "THeY hAtE bEcAuSe Of EnVy". No accountability. As always.

  • @bobdavis7290
    @bobdavis72909 ай бұрын

    100% correct. Envy and Resentment is the source of hate: others want what you have. So, word to the wise: don't talk about your successes. And if you're recovering from losses, or coming up with your education and knowledge and you've hit that point where the opportunity and your resources cross lines, pull the trigger, do it and pull away from the pack of people who can't do what you're doing. When you're achieving and pulling away from the pack, don't tell anyone anything. Sometimes it's best to say nothing.

  • @monikasolymos2396
    @monikasolymos23967 ай бұрын

    Maybe I am just far enough, but I liked this video very much. You preached the Gospel ❤ You must have sufferred lots of pain. I am sorry. The strangest thing that ever happened to me was, when I started experiencing a call from Jesus, and some members of my family, who consider themselves as faithful catholics, treated me as I was getting nuts. I wanted them to be happy with me, but I didn't find anyone to be happy with me. I couldn't even believe it. Nobody will like you for being chosen, but you already are Orion (cute name). You are!

  • @modickens1272
    @modickens12729 ай бұрын

    All great points. There is an element to envy though that I think needs further exploration, and that is the sense of injustice associated with it. As you mentioned it can only be done towards perceived equals. People ask themselves " how do they get x,y,z when clearly I'm smarter, better looking, kinder or whatever " its this sense of injustice that causes the envious person to be destructive. Also there's an element today of people trying to create envy which is just as toxic as a hater. Essentially they are online or social media overt braggarts or humble braggers. Their goal is equally toxic. They can't enjoy their success etc. Without knowing they're better than their peers. Its like a class reunion with a " one upper" . Sometimes envy is caused by a person feeling inferior, sometimes its caused by another person wanting to be superior. Not always, but more often than not, the hater and the hated feed off each other with the same goal : to feel above the other.

  • @LisaCulton

    @LisaCulton

    9 ай бұрын

    No one else can cause you to become envious, you do that 100% on your own. No amount of braggadocio can make a person with a healthy self-image feel envious.

  • @user-jf3hh4xr4n
    @user-jf3hh4xr4n6 ай бұрын

    Inciteful commentary. Having recently retired, the vast majority of the haters I was forced to associate with are no longer within my circle. In the professional setting, these people tend to turn the idea of teamwork into a zero-sum game. When overt expressions hate are frowned upon, then hate becomes a test of allegiance or underhanded activities..

  • @DNA350ppm
    @DNA350ppm9 ай бұрын

    Envy as an expression of hate, it is so true in many cases. I've been the target of sibling envy, peer envy, and spouse envy. It is bewildering because you think: but I've done and said nothing to attract hurtful remarks and ugly attitudes. I feel pangs of envy sometimes, and I've learned that they are signs of what I want for myself, like a Ph D. So I gave me permission to study for one, but I had to find out it wasn't for me. I simply didn't have the stamina, most deciding of all is that you have to persevere and must thrive taking directions (but that's not all...). I did learn some lessons: in academia you can't be friends with colleagues, only with people with the same research interest as you've got, in another states or countries, so that you don't compete about the same financiation. Among highly competitive people nothing you do is right. Not even how you take your breaks. I learned that I need to stay away from envious criticism because, I belong to those who can't take criticism, and have got hear that statement a lot, but it hasn't helped at all, I'm still too sensitive. I have also broken away from one sibling, and from my ex who let the envy of me hurt the kids. Luckily I have a more peaceful life now. Envy is not so much based in what you do or what you are, as in what the envious person perceives, that third persons think of and react to you. Like in jealousy. It can lead to bullying. It can also lead to that the envied person holds back. The Prince with golden hair is sent to be pig-herder in another King's domain. The youngest brother, Aschenputtle, is bullied by the elder brothers, but the youngest still wins the Princess. The last of the three piglets wins over the wolf. It goes to show, that an individual development can take place, in due time and in the right circumstances. We could and should be mindful of win-win-win solutions in questions of gender and rewards. That could reduce the envy, I think. And maybe we should be careful about what we admire, so not to give energy to what has very superficial worth.

  • @DodgaOfficial
    @DodgaOfficial9 ай бұрын

    Its crazy, ive recently come out of a LONG, REALLY BAD drug addiction. Ive majorly upgraded looks wise by getting my hair done, in a profound transformative way, spent alot of time in the gym, losing 100 lbs, and gaining alot of muscle, im looking the best ive ever looked and i look fantastic. Its crazy when i posted on a hair subreddit, it got so much positive attention, but it blew my mind how some people were extremely nasty, and just tried to find any way they could to shit on me.

  • @karthikeyankadarkarai3141
    @karthikeyankadarkarai31414 ай бұрын

    This Californian Guru amuses me. I'm a colored IT guy from Tamilnadu India, while in sfo nyc I was envied by all league of people in the US And the good part of it is they admitted and articulated in a nice way like you. I responded by mingling with them teaching them some tricks and thanking them to provide this kind of inclusive environment. It was not the case in UK, Germany, Finland, South Africa, Asian. I also have few whatsapp group of my classmates, collegemates and projectmates and they won't express but show it on the face when we get together. Some even don't show up as their envy turns into inferiority among peer groups...

  • @ontheline3077
    @ontheline30779 ай бұрын

    well that's simple. If you started to accumulate haters, it means you are becoming someone who stands out and these people know that they can't become as good as you. Meaning you are on the right track. Haters gonna hate, so keep going)

  • @barefootarts737
    @barefootarts7379 ай бұрын

    This is so eloquent. You are a very generous person to lay this out so well. Honey from the spoon.

  • @totalpartykill999
    @totalpartykill9994 ай бұрын

    i see envy in myself and in others around me, and towards me. this really helped.

  • @erikdent3545
    @erikdent35459 ай бұрын

    Well said about them “trying to purify” themselves for the hate they project. Absolute eye opening insight. Makes total sense and thats the part I’ve been misunderstanding for years. Keep up the good work!

  • @nate_mccallister
    @nate_mccallister7 ай бұрын

    Very nicely articulated! Thanks. Writing a blog post on “hater math,” and there was a shockingly low amount of content on the topic.

  • @bp7093
    @bp70939 ай бұрын

    I'm experiencing this professionally on a long term project that I conceptualized, tok initiative, and am leading - mostly autonomously. The project has it's detractors and believers with haters and gung ho people at extreme ends of the spectrum. The haters waste time, energy, and resources even if if they aren't actively blocking and discrediting me or the effort. I can mostly direct the gung hos, but sometimes that wastes time and energy too, but I also couldn't do the project without them. My takeaways are minimize contact with the haters and be a team player with the believers. Going into stealth mode - actively suppressing noise and tuning out haters and unfocussed people has been key. Recently a key believer forgot or ignored my wishes and I ended up in an uncomfortable position last week and got thrown under the bus - not too badly. It was probably good to see the hater shark fins again. So this video and discovering the 'valley of despair' concept last week are timely and helping me to keep perspective. Thank you.

  • @saddiqisah3591
    @saddiqisah3591Ай бұрын

    Nice, straightforward and comprehensive.

  • @pearlfeather9326
    @pearlfeather93266 ай бұрын

    So few quality people to resonate with yhese days!

  • @MOH10492
    @MOH104929 ай бұрын

    The only option is to cut these people out of your life, or distance as much as possible (some people have to stay in our lives due to circumstance, like family). Nothing you say or do will be able to change the hate that fills their voids. Believe me I have tried to be tame and neutral but they will always cause problems, trying to bring you down to their level. I knew plenty of people like this and I feel no regrets keeping my distance.

  • @themainediverschannel4495

    @themainediverschannel4495

    9 ай бұрын

    Amen!

  • @GigaChad_169

    @GigaChad_169

    9 ай бұрын

    Exactly, your very existence fuels their envy and hatred. It’s like you’re constantly making people look at themselves in the mirror by existing. They don’t like what they see so they take it out on you.

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    Plain false. You probably lack empathy and imagination.

  • @JohnSmith-wq5oi

    @JohnSmith-wq5oi

    7 ай бұрын

    @Damesanglante no, you lack empathy and understanding of the topic

  • @diegom1618
    @diegom16189 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @glennharris3357
    @glennharris33579 ай бұрын

    This was explained better than anything I've ever heard, in relation to Haters.

  • @rahfx5485
    @rahfx54859 ай бұрын

    The entire world would benefit from this video.

  • @Dave-zt7su
    @Dave-zt7su9 ай бұрын

    I don't know if it's because I am older or I been through enough. I learned NOT TO GIVE A DAMN what haters say or do!

  • @ronaldmcdonald3965
    @ronaldmcdonald39659 ай бұрын

    I interpret a lot of envy here in CA. A young man in Silicon Valley was expressing his hatred at an elderly female housing provider He said how he could barely hang onto his job and will never be able to own a house He demanded this housing provider lower the rental rates While using a bunch of insults against her But I infer he came from a good family, would could not develop any skills to take advantage of the opportunities here. At the same time, he wants to own a house in one of the most expensive places in the world, while not making much money

  • @ImWORTHITINC
    @ImWORTHITINC3 ай бұрын

    YOU ARE SO WISE! I never thought of the Bible verse in this way!! GOD BLESS YOU, DR! YOU ARE BRILLIANT! TYSM!!

  • @rejectwokeness1314
    @rejectwokeness13149 ай бұрын

    I think you articulated this the best. I agree with you, it is your closest people that actually have the lowest valuation of your worth. Which is why family and friends can turn into the most toxic people in your life

  • @Damesanglante
    @Damesanglante8 ай бұрын

    It often depend on your attitude toward your friend group once you become successful. Often, the people screeching "muh friends became envious" started boasting, being condescending and having contempt. Good people try to rise others up. Bad people walk on them to achieve their goals.

  • @pakal494
    @pakal4949 ай бұрын

    Channels like this make me have more confidence in myself by the wisdom Mr Orion dishes out in every episode.

  • @kuzuma564
    @kuzuma5649 ай бұрын

    I recently came across to one of your videos I was mind blown by the simplicity of your explanation. The way you explained the hardest concepts of human psychology by giving the simplest analogies and examples made so much sense to me. Then I binge watched all of your videos and now I feel like red pilled.

  • @JD-xo1jf
    @JD-xo1jf9 ай бұрын

    Hate always comes from below you

  • @Hansa7122
    @Hansa71228 ай бұрын

    Yes indeed, just ignore the haters & they will eventually disappear.

  • @CowgirlKim
    @CowgirlKim2 ай бұрын

    Excellent. Love the spiritual references.

  • @YellowKing1986
    @YellowKing19869 ай бұрын

    I'm a hater of Kalus Schwab. I don't think i feel envy towards him. But im most cases this is probably right.

  • @flemutter7211

    @flemutter7211

    9 ай бұрын

    You don’t hate KLAUS you resent him for trying to enslave you. You have to know him to hate him. Hold the line 😉

  • @FloridaManConstruction

    @FloridaManConstruction

    9 ай бұрын

    Amen

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    He isn't right at all. Most people here could tell stories about people they hate that have zero link to envy. People ctiticize Jeff Besos because workers were underpaid and had meters on their arms to work faster. This is not envy. Orion went full potato on this because he projected instead of having nuances.

  • @AnRodz
    @AnRodz9 ай бұрын

    As always Orion, your fabulously insightful videos appear on my feed when I need them most. Thank you, again, J.

  • @tayongbih1057
    @tayongbih1057Ай бұрын

    You are Amazing! Thanks for helping me put envy into perspective

  • @dubkult
    @dubkult9 ай бұрын

    It seems to me that the hate stemming from envy is to bring people down, in some way, to make them appear as a more a peer… even though they may be more successful on various fronts.

  • @RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
    @RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb9 ай бұрын

    The Doc is growing fast 🤔 the numbers have more than doubled within a month 👏👏👏

  • @HideyoshiR
    @HideyoshiR9 ай бұрын

    Oh boy, this episode hit home today... Long time fan, thank you for the invaluable content!

  • @gloriosatierra
    @gloriosatierraАй бұрын

    In our tongue bendezir is to say something good. The opposite of that is maldezir. Bendezir in English is to bless; maldezir is to curse. To be blessed is to hear goodness from others. That is all. 🌿

  • @janek9535
    @janek95359 ай бұрын

    That is a great video. The haters I can understand, and I can deal with. But the ones who enable them ... I don't know how I will ever forgive.

  • @JeremyHartley13
    @JeremyHartley132 ай бұрын

    What an amazing video. A perfect dissect of the hater. A must watch for anyone wanting and willing to step into the spotlight.

  • @victorp7932
    @victorp79329 ай бұрын

    Great video . Just as I have been through hell with the 'opposition' party due hatred/envy that is well explained.💯 Very true about finding recognition/appreciation outside of your familiar circle.💯

  • @donvito0916
    @donvito09165 ай бұрын

    Great breakdown....i loved the "sheer miracle" phrase. Also you made another very valid point as to say folks around your circle may feel threatened. So search for others whom are on the same frequency 100 % spot on thank you ..

  • @jagthatindianguitarist
    @jagthatindianguitarist9 ай бұрын

    The best advice I've seen on this matter

  • @williamtudyjr6665
    @williamtudyjr66659 ай бұрын

    Thanks! This hit so hard at this stage in my life. Thank you

  • @Lahiru813
    @Lahiru8139 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Excellent advice and a complete breakdown down.

  • @Va1demar
    @Va1demar9 ай бұрын

    there will always be ideas that assume the ultimate truth and do not accept reality from different perspective, because they do not see reality with other eyes, but only with their own

  • @richardanderson9644
    @richardanderson96449 ай бұрын

    Always the best! Thank you!

  • @SuperEgo1983
    @SuperEgo19839 ай бұрын

    Orion, I've watched many of your posts. But I really enjoyed the insight you provided here.

  • @davidzou5332
    @davidzou53329 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. It really resonated with my current struggles at the moment. Your videos have truly transformed my life in all the best ways possible.

  • @user-yz2ue8mr8i

    @user-yz2ue8mr8i

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes your right

  • @TheWorldsNo1Superstar
    @TheWorldsNo1Superstar4 ай бұрын

    ❤ it! By living in the spotlight, we receive love and hate. The comments that seek to bring us down are often from people hiding their identity. But we understand the inferior place within them from which this comes from. So we bless them and love it as a sign we continue moving forward. 😊

  • @emveeay
    @emveeay9 ай бұрын

    Fantastic. This explains a lot. Thank you!

  • @doubledeei2631
    @doubledeei26319 ай бұрын

    This guy is such a gem. Thank God for the internet.

  • @groovegrown
    @groovegrown9 ай бұрын

    Wow, Doc, your perspectives are INCREDIBLE. Keep up these significant contributions. And while I understand you are very conscious of video length, I know I’m not alone in that I certainly wouldn’t mind you expounding on your concepts at more length. Lord knows we tune in for FAR less substantial videos for way longer than yours. Thanks again

  • @melizarainstormz2588
    @melizarainstormz25889 ай бұрын

    Your content is usually good but this time you outdid yourself. So cool and precise. Thank you very much.

  • @oninotsume
    @oninotsume9 ай бұрын

    Great job Orion.

  • @brianmcconnell7126
    @brianmcconnell71269 ай бұрын

    I live in Canada and this envy issue is cultural here. Any company or person that succeeds internationally is torn down by the media, the chattering classes and even the local beer drinking stiffs. I swear everyone cheered when BlackBerry came apart at the seams. How dare they succeed in this egalitarian utopia!

  • @extra2ab

    @extra2ab

    9 ай бұрын

    I thought this happens only in india

  • @gudduentertains

    @gudduentertains

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@extra2abI guess it's everywhere

  • @boethius1812

    @boethius1812

    9 ай бұрын

    Protestants don't like to see anyone get too big for their britches.

  • @max_rove

    @max_rove

    9 ай бұрын

    I remember that, and I was shocked that people cheered for blackberry's demise. I was like, this is a Canadian company you morons! show some pride..

  • @Damesanglante

    @Damesanglante

    8 ай бұрын

    This is false. You cherry-picked there and forgot that everywhere in Canada, people with success are praised and revered. It is proven that humans focus on negative. Canada have nothing of an egalitarian utopia. It's the opposite. It's a capitalist dystopia.

  • @extra2ab
    @extra2ab9 ай бұрын

    Brilliance at its peak. Each word is a diamond ❤

  • @ccparker8850
    @ccparker88509 ай бұрын

    Envy in my experience is larger than a family group or close associates. It also ties into your last video on men suffering a loss in romantic relationships. I don't agree that envy automatically arises when an 'equal' is seen as doing better. I've seen friends who were: more gifted academically, better athletes, better looking, more family wealth, etc. While I wished I had their advantages; I didn't feel any ill will toward them. At college, and in the workplace, the same experience applied. I was trying to find my own way. Early in life, in elementary schl thru HS, and early college; I was a grey man. Not noticed much, not casting a shadow. Did well academically, took up martial arts, wgt lifting, swimming, etc. Began to attract attention from wmn. Some of them, saw me as more attractive. Began to be occasionally challenged by cohort males. Some of them saw me as a rival, a threat. This continued into the workplace. Had to deal with guys with 'short man's disease'. That is pure, dark, envy. I think this all ties in with J Peterson's observations abt malevolence. Like envy, malevolence is ubiquitous. Coming from a dark, even an evil place. Your channel has helped to spread some understanding of what we see and experience around us. Well done. Many thanks. 🤔

  • @alexwelts2553
    @alexwelts25538 ай бұрын

    This is probably the most valuable information I've ever heard and if I had any money I'd definitely be super thanksing. From the bottom of a malignant pile of gaslighting haters masquerading as family and friends

  • @glennwallace6742
    @glennwallace67429 ай бұрын

    Needed this one. Thank u 🙏🏾

  • @elainelee4828
    @elainelee48289 ай бұрын

    Whenever I have any mental resting moment, I find myself contemplating the most toxic yet fascinating human emotion envy, I managed to boil it down to two vague modes where error occurs: perception and pride, Cain and Abel story always follows. But I was not able to articulate it words, it just sort of stewing in my mind only. What a refreshing relief to hear the explanation articulated.

  • @wap9137
    @wap91379 ай бұрын

    Really excellent. Thank you.

  • @faizaabdurrab9281
    @faizaabdurrab92819 ай бұрын

    SOo accurate esp where you talk about the haters perception of you your belives and ideas and only taking in evidence to prove you wrong no matter how skewed they have to make it!

  • @matthewnorris203
    @matthewnorris2039 ай бұрын

    Keep on hitting the ball out of the park, Orion

  • @archonofvoid
    @archonofvoid9 ай бұрын

    this video has such a good intro it defied any of my expectations of heard and reheard on the topic. awesome

  • @lisaariottiart
    @lisaariottiart9 ай бұрын

    Best thing I've ever listened to. 🎉

  • @lilmargin12
    @lilmargin129 ай бұрын

    VERY GOOD explained. This is why i am subscribed

  • @jamescrawley7993
    @jamescrawley79939 ай бұрын

    Thanks Doctor!

  • @d.j.howardindtla8748
    @d.j.howardindtla87487 ай бұрын

    Envy is a message from your soul. Take serious notice of your envy. This is your path. Follow it.