Back in the eighties I converted a Fiat 128 to electric. I used a surplus jet engine starter as a motor and lead acid golf cart batteries. I intended to add a gas engine genset to extend range. It worked, but only went about 18 miles on a charge. As I remember, I got up to 50 MPH once. It was too early to be practical. Right now I drive a 2019 Chevy Volt. It's basically what I was trying to invent back then.

@Tore_Lund

11 ай бұрын

In 1991 I drove around a 3 wheel neighbourhood EV, also souped up with a 22KW motor. Top speed was 64 mph and range on lead acid batteries was 75 miles at 30 mph. Currently driving a Fiat 600 elettra from 2002. Fiat made a few of those EV Fiat 600 with lead acid batteries. now with Li-ion batteries I get 120 miles on a charge.

@ogx1337

11 ай бұрын

lil bro again stoned

@dd___dc

11 ай бұрын

The issue was da battery range

@thomasolson7447

11 ай бұрын

Why woud you do that. A battery can't even warm up my engine block if I leave my van for a week in the winter.

@dd___dc

11 ай бұрын

@@thomasolson7447 in Canada they have engine block/battery warmer idk if it's free or not

"It doesn't take a lot of money, I'm just doing this in the backyard with my dad" a dad who gave her a Porsche and could send her to a school for this kind of thing lol Still a very inspirational story, but let's count our blessings lol

@samkelo27

11 ай бұрын

Don't forget the sponsors and KZread ads lol

@LouisSubearth

11 ай бұрын

914s are among the cheapest vintage Porsches you can buy, since they're basically rebodied Beetles, so it's not as cost prohibitive as you think.

@dannelson6980

11 ай бұрын

She picked and sold citrus to buy the car. The 914 community is pretty generous to any young person getting one back on the road.

@dannelson6980

11 ай бұрын

@Matt Black No one said she did the conversion selling citrus. She has moved beyond that. She bought the car with her savings picking and selling citrus it is 914 not a 911 GT3. You could make enough to buy a car with a bucket, towels and soap. We bought restored and converted two cars for 20k, first the kids' Bug and my 914.

@a427rracer

11 ай бұрын

Why can't you just be proud of what the young woman has accomplished instead you are condoning how she got her funds. So what she has a you tube you tube pays money to people why isn't that good enough for you? Just be Mad at your self for not having the mental drive of a 14 year old girl 😂😂😂

My dad has also been doing some of these ev conversion on and off the last decade along with restoration. Right now he is retrofitting a 50's Porsche 356 that was converted about a decade ago into electric to a newer system. It's mostly the fun of rich people who get this stuff done.

@zabby113

11 ай бұрын

Restoring/re-engining classic cars has always been a thing that's mostly the fun of rich people.

@ken-mb5cp

11 ай бұрын

How many miles do you get on these cars per charge?

@CallMeByMyMatingName

11 ай бұрын

​@@sageopheim8382you're not saying differently than it's mostly for people of means.

@tannerpaisley-ve6dq

11 ай бұрын

@@ken-mb5cp Enough to drive around the block and take miss daisy out.

@tannerpaisley-ve6dq

11 ай бұрын

@@ken-mb5cp I would never buy a car with less than 400 range if I'm paying big bucks

Many thumbs up to that young lady!👍👍👍👍👍 Glad to see schools and training programs for EV mechanics.

I'm extremely prouof that young lady converting her car to ev..im an 11yrs worker at a ford engine plant here in ohio. Her motivation is inspiring, and just gave me an idea to eventually change my 2022 bronco, I'm totally impressed

I'm currently converting a 1994 Toyota Celica, these conversions are important not only for the environmental benefit that comes with cutting emissions, but for keeping these classics on the road for all to enjoy as parts become harder to obtain.

@SubversiveInnkeeper

11 ай бұрын

The 6th gen Celica is such a beautiful car. Glad to see someone giving one a new life.

@PistonHonda87

11 ай бұрын

EVs are a scam. Lithium mining is an environmental disaster, it takes 500,000 gallons of fresh water to produce 1 ton of lithium, it takes a ton of oil to produce and transport oil, when the batteries die they are incinerated. Then there is the life span issue, EVs are heavier, making accidents more dangerous.

@dollazNzentz

10 ай бұрын

I have a 00 Celica and would love to do this

@volkhen0

8 ай бұрын

1994 is the one with round front lights or the one with opening front lights? I used to have 1993 Celica.

@eddyboh2723

8 ай бұрын

I have question, how do you insure an electric converted car?

I've got n '86 Fiero I'm restoring. When I'm ready for the powertrain swap, the only thing that'll keep me from going EV is cost. If we can get conversion components down in cost a bit, I'm 100% in. That little car would be insane with all that beautiful, instant torque (after I reinforce the hell out of it). :-)

As much as I hate pure electric vehicles for the average consumer (Hybrid or plug in hybrid is the way to go because what if electric grid goes down during a natural disaster?), I do indeed love the idea of EV conversions for classic cars where its impossible to source replacement engine components for outdated vehicles. Keep the classics alive!

@porcorosso4330

10 ай бұрын

EV might not be so good if you want to go somewhere during/after a disaster but a decent battery bank for your home probably can tie you over until the power gets back as for classic cars, converting them to EVs might actually keep them on road longer since EVs generally have less maintenance

@deltapapashootingexperience

8 ай бұрын

@@porcorosso4330 as a Floridian in hurricane prone areas I say a Gas car and Gas Generator for the home are a necessity. You need a gas powered car in case you need to evacuate Or relocate if the home becomes damaged period a gas generator is needed Because we found that solar panels tend to get damaged and stop providing hurricanes. Battery banks can get fried during the lightning from hurricanes also.

@2.3_44XD--

17 күн бұрын

I'd agree but a big battery a nice electric motor and ONLY a tiny generator in the back with a small tank. I was against EV already 5 or 6 years ago. Now I drive EVs and it would be a punishment to have to drive fuel cars again. It would be like forcing me to live with my ex wife 24h again. No please.

@deltapapashootingexperience

17 күн бұрын

@@2.3_44XD-- Essentially you just want a first generation chevy volt. Big battery that was powered by a gasoline generator for when you couldn't charge it between trips.

I would like to see someone doing that on some Pontiac cars.

@Irothelegend1

11 ай бұрын

I have two 4 the gen Trans AMs I can do this on 😊

@PacificDark

11 ай бұрын

1981 Pontiac Trans Am Turbo is my dream car.

@sdmurphy20

11 ай бұрын

I wonder if that could bring back the Pontiac brand.

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

Disgusting. Truly disgusting. The brand was already killed off, let the classics that live on keep their soul, damnit.

I can’t wait until this becomes affordable for the average person, right now it’s obscenely expensive to convert an ICE over.

@NazriB

18 сағат бұрын

Lies again? Ezlink Card USD SGD

As a performance fan, an EV conversion is tough to beat. The instantaneous torque puts a big smile on my face every time! I agree that the convenience of a gas powered car is great, even with the high gas prices right now. We recently bought a VW ID.4 and love it, but we bought it after a ton of research and understanding how it fit into our lifestyle and travel plans. The improvements in Level 3 DC fast charging and increased availability have certainly been encouraging developments that will improve longer range trips, but we will keep an ICE vehicle for the foreseeable future. However, I am planning to electrify that ICE vehicle with a small Tesla motor and the battery pack from a Chrysler Pacifica hybrid in search of vastly improved performance and hopefully some improved MPG…we’ll see how that all turns out. It’s not a simple learning curve and high voltage can be very dangerous, but so can gasoline - just ask Leno.

@dianapennepacker6854

4 ай бұрын

Can't wait in five to ten years when Axial Flux motors come out in mass. There is one by Helix UK. They claim 52 pounds and.... 800 BHP! Imagine if someone grabs two. Sticks it with a tiny jet turbine generator. A small solid state battery to run. Stick it into a small body. Boom! Hell, soon you wouldn't need a generator. Future is bright. I don't care if a car goes vroom. I just want speed, and great handling. EVs allow that with the center of mass. They just have the whole weight issue. I am surprised there aren't more series hybrids TBH with a turbine engine. Always thought they were the most efficent, lightweight, and relatively simple.

:) Already recycling EV components in to spare parts, performance industry was always going to adapt as the demand grew. Hot Rodding has always been at the bleeding edge of technology and performance. Tinkergineering shows the Hot Rod community is strong and healthy and adapting to new technology, and a 914 as a first car, way cool.

This is a very good summary of the DIY EV conversion market. I believe EV conversions have a future. I love cars and grew up an ICE hot rodder” but the torque and responsiveness of an AC electric motor is mind boggling. The hot rodder’s of the future will be building EV’s. EV West played a major roll helping me build my VoltDog.

@GenXRanter

11 ай бұрын

There's nothing to "build" you just plug electric motors in.

@nickiemcnichols5397

10 ай бұрын

I believe that all race cars should be EV, including monster trucks.

@TheSOHO92

10 ай бұрын

​@@GenXRanter I may not agree with your hot take, but you certainly follow through with the spirit of your username. "What it says on the tin." As grandpa used to say. I can direct you to several ev conversion projects on KZread if your interested in more detail. These mainstream media videos don't show how much actual work people put in to these vehicles.

@ThisIsReMarkable

10 ай бұрын

@@GenXRanter This is the hottest of takes

@mistergoodcitizen9914

Ай бұрын

No hot rodder will even buy a electric car it goes against everything they stand for.

Cool stuff. This is great to see everyone so enthusiastic, and impressive what they are able to build. 👍

Heard rumors about people who have converted first-gen Mirais before; that would be a fun project to say the least as someone who owns one. This is exactly why I’m enrolled in Saddleback College’s Auto 220 class.

shoutout to this lady. and jehu garcia at the end. and ev west.

I was thinking of myself to have a similar conversion shop but couldn't get on to it due to pandemic timing. It's pretty interesting to see these changes in US. I think it is always better to give a second life to your car if economically viable. US is usually ahead in trying new things. Here is Australia things happen very slow.

@doujinflip

11 ай бұрын

For a sporty car, EV conversions actually make it perform better. Electric motors give more torque and the lower center of mass lets it turn sharper.

@anydaynow01

9 ай бұрын

@@doujinflip I think the EV conversions are better for the old luxury cars, like the old USA lead sleds and land yachts or the old German sedans and Swedish hatchbacks where the smoothness and torque are prefered. The sports cars are best as H pattern ICE cars, though if someone wants an automatic then an EV conversion makes sense for them. The folks who prefer to drive and work on an ICE do it for a different reason, a lot like how people still ride horses even though it makes zero sense since they are slower than an ICE sports car. It's a strange tactile thing.

@eddyboh2723

8 ай бұрын

I have question, how do you insure an electric converted car?

@someonez768

5 ай бұрын

​@@doujinflipyep, because single or duel motors itself gives you more than 500 hp which is even more than a supra Note: if you are supra kid, don't get offended, just accept truth that supra is nothing without modifications (literally inline 6, bro it's engine used in trucks 😂)

@gsantee

3 ай бұрын

Janus Electric

That 14 years old girl's passion is good. I hope more women become serious about their cars. Most are nonchalant.

She's doing this at 14? Wow. Can't wait to see the car once it's complete.

@SamWesting

11 ай бұрын

At 24, she’ll be converting that car back to ICE when a replacement battery gets too expensive, as the Chinese will corner the market on manganese & cobalt.

@kabysummit5801

11 ай бұрын

​@Sam Westing In your dreams 😅 Prices will continue to drop. The only exception is American labor.

@Simon-dm8zv

11 ай бұрын

@@kabysummit5801 exactly

@andrewdiamond2697

11 ай бұрын

@@SamWesting I knew there'd be a dumb comment with this video. I'm not disappointed.

@ken-mb5cp

11 ай бұрын

@@SamWesting Yeah and gas will cost 20$ per gallon if you can find it.

The 14 yo girl is amazing. I see her having a very bright future.

I sense lighting storm bolt paint jobs are going to be all the rage instead of flame jobs. It's not a lectric rod unless it has an intense lighting storm exploding out from the front to the back.

electric motorcycle conversions are about to become really interesting, the motors are cheap and easy to install, and current cutting edge battery tech will give you roughly 80 miles on a half hour charge, 70% of that in 15 minutes

@calvin99991

11 ай бұрын

Wow, 80 miles. Almost enough to actually go someplace.

@Freshbott2

11 ай бұрын

@@calvin99991how long’s your commute?

@jeffsaxton716

11 ай бұрын

I have a 1970 HD sportster 1200. I'm conflicted as to whether to convert it. It's the S variant .. Buell heads, dual plugs, high compression. I think I'd rather convert my 1999 Whizzer copy to electric.

@Trenavix

11 ай бұрын

E-Moto makes life so much simpler. Keep your gas car as a backup, and use the e-moto for 90% of your tasks. Uses less energy, maintenance is way easier, no parking issues, no congestion issues. It is absolutely the way to go. Way cheaper as well.

@doujinflip

11 ай бұрын

I ride a e-motorbike. It is totally worth it, especially when the office is paying for the wall socket I can top up the battery at.

Great to see some content on EV conversions. EV West are an amazing company. UK are leading the way though 😉⚡️🇬🇧

That's totally smart win win. Saving a car to become electric In the long run its worth it.

That is insane … what a smart move … I’m no ev fan but this is a very smart business decision

@djgill92

10 ай бұрын

I agree.

3:17 You guys are missing a plethora of old school conversions from the 70s through the 2000s that were more like green commuter cars. White zombie was more of a paradigm shift since they were one of the first to use lithium cells and get insane power

The guy said $20K to $30k for the parts and $20k to $30k for the install PLUS the cost of the car WITH A STRAIGHT FACE.

@famicomnintendo

11 ай бұрын

I see what you mean, read it before seeing it

@zabby113

11 ай бұрын

This isn't being pitched as something that makes financial sense. Restoring classic cars, hot rods etc. has always been a rich person hobby, re-engining them as electric will be the same.

@comicrandomness3289

11 ай бұрын

Synthetic fuel will be better. People say it's too expensive but converting your classic car to ev is also expensive so does it matter?

@kabysummit5801

11 ай бұрын

If I can have the EV of my dreams at 60k, I'd do it. Alfa Romeo GTV

@andrewdiamond2697

11 ай бұрын

He has a 5-year backlog/waitlist. His order book says the straight face is justified.

If there was any aspect of this report I could put my money on to win, it would definitely be Frances, Here is a young woman with potential. She will certainly go far. CNBC - keep an eye on her.

A good friend of mine converted a Porsche 914 (the mid-engine boxy one like in the video) to an EV. A BUNCH of work, a BUNCH of $$, but he got it done! He used lead-acid forklift gel batteries. Only has about 50 miles of range, but still pretty damn cool!

@georgestrange7424

11 ай бұрын

Bruh

@ljprep6250

8 ай бұрын

He could sextuple that range with lithium batteries.

@jasonrodgers9063

8 ай бұрын

Couldn't afford them. His project cost $20K as it was!@@ljprep6250

@celestialx8

8 ай бұрын

50 miles 😂

@keilmillerjr9701

6 ай бұрын

Useless mod. I couldn't even visit my closest relative.

How do I convert an electric car to a gasoline engine to increase the range?

@cancelled_user

11 ай бұрын

And make it sound nice 🙂

@LouisSubearth

11 ай бұрын

Rich Rebuilds LS swapped a Tesla Model S. It is possible, however it's more complicated than converting a gas car to EV.

@MrPeach1

11 ай бұрын

And fuel up time

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

Sell the EV to a blue-haired idiot and buy a proper gasoline powered vehicle. Very simple.

@nSnowCrow

11 ай бұрын

tow a trailer with a generator running on it, then connect to your EV.

You go for it we need more young people like you.

Finally ev west is getting huge recognition! Question tho I remember you guys have a Toyo pickup build but I don’t see it for sale as a kit.

the rebate law SB301 recently passed actually! I don't know when it goes into effect or if you'll "probably" have to be a certified shop or whatever but it offers up to $4k as a rebate, so that's pretty sweet.

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

I’m so glad I left that AWFUL state and my tax dollars aren’t going towards this crap.

@jon-williammurphy9780

11 ай бұрын

@@Shoprestorationthe we're happy to see you go :D

I wonder how solid state batteries will change this. Less weight per performance. Less risk of catching fire. I really can't wait to see how solid state batteries will change the ev market.

@doujinflip

11 ай бұрын

Also the advent of sodium-ion batteries, which are not as energy dense but also carry far fewer fire hazards and could displace what we use lithium now for applications that are not as sensitive to weight (fixed storage, possibly trains and ships, etc). This alone would free up significant amounts of Li-ion for where it's most required.

@shmookins

11 ай бұрын

Not just in EVs, but if solid batteries work, they'll change the electronics business (such as phones, laptops)

@triadwarfare

11 ай бұрын

@@doujinflip i don't think sodium ion can become the defacto standard of EVs yet. If people are complaining about the limited range of current Lithium based batteries, going to sodium will only make things worse.

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

Solid state batteries are going nowhere in the EV world. Plus all of the most efficient current types still use lithium. They’re not going to be the magical solution everyone in the EV world so desperately dreams of (and NEEDS to keep their pipe dream alive).

Hope to see more of this. I always thought it would be a matter of time before someone jumped on this. Great idea.

Just subscribed to that young lady's channel - "Tinker-geneering" with Frances Pearl Farnam! She is absolutely brilliant and a total sweetheart, and she could use so much more than what she has at the moment! CNBC is BY FAR my favorite mainstream media outlet around, and thank you for fighting the good fight as best you all can!

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

“Fighting the good fight” What, advocating for the desecration of classic cars in pursuit of a pipe dream that will eventually fail, leaving us right back where we started?

we need an affordable conversion kit for both full EV and HYBRID setup

Great research of converting EV from gas powered vehicles

@kingfabrah

11 ай бұрын

I watched few dudes who did it simply beautiful. I’m not an electric guy.

more people might hop on board if prices become actually affordable for the average consumer. most people cant just randomly fork out 50 to 100k just for a ride, especially one that is new and still considered to be experimental.

Just curious, can you do the same thing with a 2005 Chevy?

fun (expensive) hobby. i'm all for it, but i can't really afford that kind of expense. I imagine i'll acquire a used EV at some point, which will be my starting point in the transition away from ICE.

Turning real cars into golf carts. Thank you for helping to contribute to the demose of free travel.

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

The Last Chase, here we come!

@givanildosouza6904

10 ай бұрын

golf carts are awesome, why do you make it sound like a bad thing?

Ooh, was thinking of this. Originally bought a 1965 Corvair to update with my son. Though I've thought about an electric Corvair, that's been abandoned. I now have a running 1999 Lexus coupe. I often wonder if that wouldn't be a great electric conversion.

Great report about the DIY EV market development. We, sadly, in LA do not have the same sources of knowledge and services as in the US. Would you please tell me what is that NY company that teaches how to convert ICV to EV? Thanks in advance for the info.

The auto industry needs to create EV batteries that are sustainable, safe, and recyclable for the long term…I think I would be benefiting for both the industry and the environment consumers live in!

@Simon-dm8zv

11 ай бұрын

Guess what, they already exist.

@triadwarfare

11 ай бұрын

@@Simon-dm8zv no they don't. Current EV batteries are still unsustainable, relying on destructive mining operations and exploiting child labor, and helping the destructive artisan mining in DRC skirt around sanctions. The ones are supposed to be sustainable are still years away from mass production. Sodium batteries would also be too heavy and inefficient to be used in cars, so they'll most likely end up in fixed infrastructure projects. Recycling lithium batteries isn't also a thing.

@Simon-dm8zv

11 ай бұрын

@@triadwarfare They do. Look up lithium iron phosphate. Has been around for years and many EVs rely on it. No cobalt, no nickel.

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

Great, so when it’s cold outside you have dramatically reduced range.. brilliant! Not to mention, they still use lithium, which is going to become a major problem in the short term future as supply does not begin to meet demand. Simon, this is all a pipe dream. It’s time you just accept that.

@Shoprestorationthe

11 ай бұрын

Joe No such thing is going to happen. There is no new battery technology anywhere on the foreseeable horizon that has the potential to solve the MAJOR issues with EV batteries now. Unless someone comes up with something brand new, and soon, the EV world is going to collapse in on itself.

The battery pack is still really expensive, so I don't think it makes financial sense to convert an ICE car into an EV----at least at this moment in time.

@imrytebeehyneu

11 ай бұрын

It's a different battery installation

@ken-mb5cp

11 ай бұрын

I read that insurance companies are quick to total slightly damaged EVs so there’s a battery source there.

@imrytebeehyneu

11 ай бұрын

@@ken-mb5cp why you so against EV

@eln0n01

11 ай бұрын

Well if it makes you feel any better, the people paying to get that done are usually rich.

@ken-mb5cp

11 ай бұрын

@@imrytebeehyneu I’m not against anything

My fantasy EV conversion: a 1957 Oldsmobile Super 88. It would have modern suspension, AC, etc. I've liked that body style since I was a kid (about a million years ago!)

0:50 Uh, why is some older white gentleman showing off the Moby X, when the creator is the well-known Bisi of bisimoto who is extremely Nigerian? Dude put his heart into that build

It’s a shame the producers did not interview Rich from richrebuilds

Don't let this Advert fool you the demand for EV conversions is extremely low and makes no financial sense.

@ianhamilton3113

11 ай бұрын

Most people don't own classic cars for financial reasons.

@Radek3887

11 ай бұрын

It literally said in the video that doing mass conversions doesn't make sense. It only sometimes makes sense in very limited commercial scenarios. That guy is running a speed shop for wealthy clients.

Thought of being able to drive an electric ‘69 Camaro convertible makes me happy.

Any EV motorcycle conversion website?

I would do this for some specific car like a Porsche 911 Carerra (964), convertible, and if I had money to dump happily. The additional problem with these conversions is they rarely get over 200mi of range, so it's really a conversion for city streets. I would also wait and see if shops like EV West can convert over to the NACS standard rather than CCS, now that the entire country is going NACS thanks to Ford and GM partnering with Tesla.

@ken-mb5cp

11 ай бұрын

200 miles is ok now in most populated areas. There’s enough chargers but they need NACS true.

@IMGreg..

11 ай бұрын

Classic cars aren't driven that distance much anyway, so it wouldn't be noticeable.

@doujinflip

11 ай бұрын

I'm hoping that EVs are able to have the charger ports easily swapped out as needed until we converge on an open global standard. Besides NACS/Tesla, there's also SAE/CCS1, the EU's CCS2, Japan's CHAdeMO, and China's GB/T.

@LouisSubearth

11 ай бұрын

Converting to NACS shouldn't be too hard, since the pin outs are identical to CCS, they just have the advantage of allowing both slow and fast current through their two main pins.

I can't wait to see more of this in the US. I see a lot of builders in Europe but we seem to be a bit behind. The SEMA show should be amazing the next few years.

@anydaynow01

9 ай бұрын

Agreed all the old land yachts and lead sleds they have would be great EV conversion candidates since the engines were powerful for the time and meant to be smooth as possible anyway. I would hope the sports cars and muscle cars keep their soulful beating ICE hearts though. There is just something about rowing through the gear on an H pattern shifter and knowing the Rube Goldberg machine under the hood is spinning away giving its all. A lot like how the ICE never replaced recreational horses. It's not about the speed but the experience.

I have question, how do you insure an electric converted car?

Jerry rig everything converted a military humvee to electric humvee in his home garage by himself and a friend. Far more impressive than what this girl is doing. Why was he not given time on this video. He has a KZread playlist where he has documented the progress very well. And that conversion of an humvee is a not just any car getting converted to an EV. It's a gas guzzling monster being converted to an EV. It sends an even powerful message than a small Porsche being converted to an EV. The message is "Any car can be converted to an EV and it will be as much as fun if not more than an ICE car. So come and convert your fun to drive ICE car to an EV."

@triadwarfare

11 ай бұрын

These interviews require negotiations. If no party agrees to the terms when featured in the video, no feature will take place. This girl has a lot to gain by being featured in CNBC as she's relatively unknown, JerryRigEverything, not so much, since he is already established.

@nSnowCrow

11 ай бұрын

Your comment is really awkward. Do you think Zack would rather see himself covered instead of a young KZreadr?

But did the girl ever get the bolt off her car?

@LouisSubearth

11 ай бұрын

I hope so.

I believe that if you were to use high energy density batteries (probably higher than even exist yet) along with in-wheel motors, you could convert an existing small car for a relatively low cost. You just substitute the ICE engine and transmission for a battery pack in the engine compartment, and have 2 relatively small in-wheel motors (about 40kw for each motor like the Elaphe S400) attached to the suspension where the wheel axles would normally be at the front. For more high-performance applications, you could add 2 more motors at the rear. For more range, you can have an additional battery pack where the fuel tank is in the ICE version. If you can limit the weight of that front battery pack to not much more than the original engine, transaxle, radiator, fuel tank and exhaust system (about 200kg) then you can reduce the cost and improve the efficiency of the vehicle to the point where it doesn't need more than about 60kwh of batteries to give it decent range. But you need a good energy density like probably 300wh/kg to give you 60kwh in that example above of a 200kg battery pack. You don't want to be putting any more weight at the front of the car than what would have been there in the ICE version, and to balance it out and get the maximum range you do need to use that fuel tank space for more batteries, but beyond that, you shouldn't need to cut into the car body or put batteries under the rear seat or anything like that. A bolt-in solution is preferable to reduce labour costs.

@charlesball6519

11 ай бұрын

In wheel motors are a BAD idea. Just look at Lordstown Motors. Their truck has four in wheel motors, a 109kWh battery, with only 179 mile range. The Ford F-150 Lightning standard range pack is 98kWh, and has a 270-280 mile range.

@apterachallenge

11 ай бұрын

@@charlesball6519 Completely different vehicle, much heavier, less aerodynamic and with different, bigger motors. The motors on the Aptera will only be spinning at about 1500rpm at full speed, and will require much less power. In-wheel motors really only work well with lightweight vehicles, which Aptera is. They have even modified the existing Elaphe M700 to reduce power slightly and make it even more efficient.

Car company should make electric vehicle kits for their cars. If you have a 2020 Toyota, there should be a kit / conversion turning that car into a electric vehicle. This method will save alot of natural resource building a NEW vehicle every year.

I love this shopping watching them for a while I love the fact that they're converting real cars into electric vehicles and the fact that your steering wheel still connected to your tires I think is a better option than driving an electric vehicle and driving by wire that just means your steering wheel is not connected to your tires 🤔 I think that's a bad idea

If someone developed a kit to convert the most popular cars in the last 10 years, like to Toyota Camry then you would get an economy of scale

On one hand, as a young person you could go to college and wind up with lots of debt. Or on the other hand, you could start a business and wind up with lots of assets. 🤷‍♀️

@Jakeobfreedman

11 ай бұрын

Most businesses fail and close after a few years. It’s good to have inspirations, but you could just as easily say go to college (if you’re smart enough), be an engineer or doctor and end up with way more assets than someone who tried and failed at building a business. Different things for different people.

Keep an eye on Francis folks. Shes on to something great ❤

What if i already have a plug in hybrid and just want a bigger battery would it still cost more then buying the car brand new?

This is what the world needs very quickly

@AB-jz9ns

11 ай бұрын

Where is the needed electricity will come from?

this is good, but an electric frankenstein for the price of a new electric car)

@ianhamilton3113

11 ай бұрын

But fun to drive.

I loved the cars of the future in the 1997 movie Gattaca, 1960s-70s classics electrified. Uma thurmans character drove an electric Citroën DS Décapotable.

I love EV conversion! I can't wait for more conversion parts to be off the shelf, to make DIY conversion easier.

I think this is a great. I would want both though 😅

Electric cars have their batteries low down under the floor to balance the load and keep the CofG low as well as for safely reasons in the event of an accident. The extra weight requires a stronger chassis, stronger suspension, better brakes, etc.

In Eastern Europe large vehicles and regular sedan type vehicles have been converted to natural gas from gasoline for YEARS... some have converted to a Natural Gas Generator Electric vehicle, basically a kind of hybrid with a small natural gas optimized engine to simply power an onboard generator and a small battery to store 5-10 kwh... you end up with an ELECTRIC DRIVE, Natural Gas Hybrid POWER vehicle... its the best option... no need to completely redo electric wiring... no need to get a lot of batteries... most of the conversion is happening under the hood and switching out the powertrain... thats it

I'm still not ready to go full EV yet, but I'm currently shopping around for a new car and looking to get a hybrid, plug-in or otherwise. I like the idea of having an EV one day, I'm just not in a position to reasonably own one

@dawsongooch4194

11 ай бұрын

Chevy Bolts are the most affordable with a 200-250 mile range. You can get them for around $20,000. Probably the cheapest new car you can buy and run period, gas or EV, but as a Bolt owner I wouldn't recommend it if you expect to do road trips often. I'm kinda shocked that the new prius looks good, and has like 40 miles of electric range, so that ones worth a look if you haven't checked it out already!

@zeph_os

11 ай бұрын

@@dawsongooch4194 I appreciate the pointer. My only problem is I am still in college so my budget is like half that, so I've been browsing used hybrids instead

@dawsongooch4194

11 ай бұрын

@@zeph_os Best of luck!

@equarg

11 ай бұрын

Welp, the struggle was real when the first cars came out…getting gas and finding parts. Look how long we relied on horse power across so many civilizations. The old joke was “har hat, get a horse!” When a person was seen stuck on the side of the road due to a flat or being out of gas. Now most Americans can’t even ride a horse (sadly).

That girl speaks as someone with 20+ years more life experience than she has.

@oftengone

11 ай бұрын

Agreed

How about a receiver hitch with a 220-volt charger multifuel attachment? smallest size to run a 220-Volt charger on Hemp oil...Maybe that new rotary unit is about 18# receiver weight and a 12' X 12' package all-inclusive for those extended road trips? How big does a charger motor have to be?

There's going to be a market for this. Someone better catch on before a large company gets to it first.

More of this, please! Thank you for making this, so proud of my hometown of San Diego and EV West. They are starting an international movement. Education & training is a must. These things are so much more fun to drive, even if they’re less efficient than modern electric cars, they still blow any ICE out of the water. EV Motors = 90% efficient Gas Engine = 30% efficient Also, almost any electric car is faster 0-30mph than most Sports Cars. 0-60mph is overrated and less useful in a city.

Here come all the I.C.E. slaves saying “YoUrE rUiNiNg ThE cAR”

@Simon-dm8zv

11 ай бұрын

Yup, already pouring in

Francis is fantastic!! 14, that's amazing!

The Detroit Electric was an electric car produced by the Anderson Electric Car Company in Detroit, Michigan. The company built 13,000 electric cars from 1907 to 1939.

@josepeixoto3384

25 күн бұрын

Oh, shht, will History repeat itself?? i think it has started already, in the US, Evs are piling up at the dealers' and nobody buying them..

In the future every job will be a hobby.

@zabby113

11 ай бұрын

I like how this can be interpreted as a utopia or a dystopia depending on how optimistic you are as a person.

How to complicate a working product. Much better title

@LouisSubearth

11 ай бұрын

Electric powertrains are simpler though. Less moving parts, and less electronic components.

I work with lithium forklift batteries, and he said "BMS," and it instantly clicked what that meant in my head, lol

What would the range be that I would expect to pay to convert to EV?

Big difference between old hotrod and EV conversions. Risk of high voltage shock ⚡🫨⚡ Just be careful out there.

@Tron-Jockey

11 ай бұрын

Depends. If using an AC motor (as in Tesla and most other modern EV's), then the use of a 400V or 800V 3-phase inverter is necessary along with a HV battery pack. But some EV drag racing applications still prefer DC which can use much lower voltages. The trade off in either case is amperage. For any given Hp the less voltage used the more amperage needed. However, power robbing line/wire/cable/connector resistance and resulting heat becomes the issue when pushing more amperage. Better to go with higher voltages and less amperage.

I'm thinking about going electric but skeptical about taking a road trip from Louisiana to California in an electric car.

@jasonpark1556

11 ай бұрын

Electric sucks, not worth it tbh

@RiVer-Parish

11 ай бұрын

​@Ro Herms Thanks for the tip.

@RiVer-Parish

11 ай бұрын

​@@jasonpark1556 😂

@lordhoden

11 ай бұрын

@@smk99 what kinda cheap gas you have there? Because my toyota rav 4 has a range of 353 miles and if i need to fill up once I'll pay around 70€. Guess this is really dependent on where you live. PS: pls send some gas, im bleeding money here

@thierryvt

11 ай бұрын

@Ro Herms 30 - 60 minutes? That's bs. Once you're charging it's gonna be 15-30 minutes max. The issue is that if you're going during a peak moment then you'll be queueing for an hour first lmao. Other than that? If you do a lot of roadtrips then I agree, stick with an ICE for a couple more years at least. But if you plan to mainly use it for commuting and you can charge at home then EVs cannot be beat. Since 99% of your charging is at home I also wouldn't care too much about the cost of fast charging. If a full charge costs a couple bucks at home, and you only roadtrip once or twice a year at a higher cost for fast charging, then your overall "fuel cost" is still going to be MUCH lower than the fuel cost of an ICE. The purchase cost is another factor, EVs are more expensive than ICE cars. So if you're looking for something cheap then EVs aint it boss. At least not yet. So if you want my opinion: If you do lots of roadtrips, want a cheap running car, or can't charge at home? Go ICE or Hybrid. Primarily commuting, and you have a driveway for home charging, and you were looking in that price bracket anyway? Go EV.

Wow....this is so cool! This coming from V12 Lamborghini and Ferrari ownership.

Thought about using this set up in a R V, as a hybrid? Or with diesel generator to increase distance of Battery charge, like a Tesla I saw on YT.

The "fuel" EVs use isn't just the electrical energy. The batteries have to be included since they hold the energy, take a lot of resources to create and take up most of the weight of the vehicle

@ianhamilton3113

11 ай бұрын

But they are from damaged, beyond repair vehicles.

@marc-andreservant201

11 ай бұрын

This is only true for manufacturing new EV batteries from mined lithium and cobalt. Once you already have a battery and it needs replacement, hopefully its lithium and cobalt will be recycled into new batteries just like gasoline engines are melted down to make new engines.

@andrewdiamond2697

11 ай бұрын

Yes. and your point is?

@tpike32

11 ай бұрын

@@marc-andreservant201 one thing to note . The ones that don’t make it to recycling, end up in landfills . A gasoline engine will do zero harm . While a used old lithium battery will .

*The stock market rally run is gone, but I'm not sure if equities will swiftly recover, keep falling or swing in a narrow range for a few weeks, or if things will quickly get worse. I'm under pressure to increase my $250k reserve*.

@josephlee4001

10 ай бұрын

Despite my confidence in your advice, my recent stock purchases, and the fact that I am an AMC shareholder, I haven't been able to accumulate anything. I had already been in the hole for too long prior to the downturn. What's the investing procedure?

@denisdavid342

10 ай бұрын

It's true that many people downplay the value of financial gurus until they experience emotional pain. After a protracted divorce, I can still clearly remember needing encouragement to keep my business afloat. Several summers ago, I researched license advisors-or portfolio coaches, as some peo

@justinscott6855

10 ай бұрын

Jackson Sten Marsh is the coach that guides, you probably might've come across he before I found him through a Newsweek report, he's quite known in he field, look-him up.

@expertkanejames1857

10 ай бұрын

I promptly did some research on Jackson past. He can control herself well. He credentials are solid, and it seems like he was the subject of a careful examination. Foreign investors from countries other than the United States can also use his services

Smart. Looking forward to driving some classics in electrified form ⚡️

How about econoline converted. It has a lot of under chassis space for battery storage

I fully expect angry boomers to flood the comments lol

@jasonpark1556

11 ай бұрын

You def don't know anything about cars then

@swilleh_

11 ай бұрын

look! a non car guy think that he is smarter than everyone else!

@ramblin327

11 ай бұрын

Not a boomer. Doesn’t matter what generation you are from this is destroying classics pure and simple.

@MBarberfan4life

11 ай бұрын

I'm not a boomer, but even if I were, that doesn't mean EVs are the future. That's a fallacy.

@Simon-dm8zv

11 ай бұрын

@@MBarberfan4life EVs are the future.

Step 1 Don’t do it Step 2 buy a new EV if you have to. The only classic car that would benefit from electric and not ruin it would be a Delorean.

@andrewdiamond2697

11 ай бұрын

The Delorean would be maybe the best candidate, since it was originally a pretty slow car.

The main thing people have to remember when watching stuff like this is that none of these vehicles are a persons everyday driver. But yet every time a video pops up about EV swaps, it always makes it seem like if a person doesn't want to buy a new EV, that's fine just swap out the ICE in your vehicle for a EV conversion. Oh that sounds like a good idea, you think. Then you find out it would cost around $100k. So it would be cheaper to just buy a used EV. But then you realize that any EV pushing 100k miles needs a new battery. that's $15k-$20k+ so that $20k used EV is actually $40k+ then you get rear ended, $200 fix right? Well then the insurance company says the battery pack might have been damaged. Battery packs now-a-days aren't serviceable. So it needs a new one for $20k, but the car is only worth $18k. So insurance totals the car. Now you're out $40k and just found out there's no cheap affordable used car market in the future with EVs. Perhaps they say the technology will get cheaper, it will. But when it does upgrades and different designs will make sure that it doesn't matter if the tech becomes cheaper. Cause it'll always be changing and incompatible with vehicles from a few years ago. The states that have picked a date to ban new ICE sales. Just checkout how they are doing five years after that ban when their used car market is priced stupidly high and yet none of them swap the battery before putting it up for sale.

@darkzap10

25 күн бұрын

The worrisome part is that it won't just affect used car prices in those states. It will minimally affect the states nearby if not the entire market for the U.S.

Very cool a second life for old vehicles

Great way to destroy a quality vehicle.

Younger generation is tired of cars. I got into building electric motorcycles, now I'm an electric train technician in Seattle as a 25yo. Cars aren't sustainable and the younger generations know it.

@Simon-dm8zv

11 ай бұрын

Nice!

@doujinflip

11 ай бұрын

Where do you get the parts for your e-bike? I'm looking to eventually do some conversions as well

This is what I've waited my whole adult life to see! Way back in the early 80s I was looking at the first solar panels on Real Goods thinking, when they start converting gas cars to EVs, then we'll see the end of fossil fuels. Yaay! 🎉🎉🎉❤

Great idea to keep the old cars and trucks on the road ! 🤔

If nature is so precious, why are we converting hundreds of passender planes into cargo fleet ($30 million a piece) to deliver Amazon parcels?

@jjackson3240

11 ай бұрын

Hmm. Good thought. Those items have to get to their destinations one way or another. I wonder if less resources are used by Amazon with drivers on routes delivering hundreds of packages through neighborhoods or by hundreds of cars making two way trips to stores to pick up those packages. Good thing to research.

@zabby113

11 ай бұрын

I have no idea what this has to do with electric cars. Anyway, if you buy at Walmart or Best Buy or Amazon it all comes from China and gets there by boat and plane. Amazon is just establishing its own delivery service rather than using FedEx or UPS. Electric airplanes are already at the prototype stage, and are likely to be a thing for short-haul flights in the 2030s.