Could you be tempted by an EV conversion if the price was right? Tell us what you think below..

@johnnodge4327

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely I would. I've even made parts for a friend's EV conversion. It appears the DVLA aren't keen on conversions though, as they seem to be applying loads of read tape.

@WelcomeToDERPLAND

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have an old 72' satellite muscle car that I would LOVE to get converted (especially since its already so iffy on running as is) However I am extremely strapped for cash atm so it probably wouldnt happen anytime soon.

@fkkmag8692

2 жыл бұрын

I’m planning to ev my Nissan X-Trail I think it would be a great circulation of older cars!

@coffinshark

2 жыл бұрын

My Classic Mini EV dreams might yet come true!

@WeOnlyWantTheEarth1999

2 жыл бұрын

Fiat Panda, or an old Prius definitely!!!

This is bloody amazing. We should be totally embracing this idea of changing cars to electric rather than buying new ones. I'd love an electric Audi A2

@rkan2

2 жыл бұрын

It should be EU policy to have grants for EV conversions. The problem is the car lobby who wouldn't like it...

@JackScarlett1

2 жыл бұрын

A2 is SUCH a good shout for EV conversion. We need to make this happen. Fully Charged project car perhaps? 👀

@easyrider75

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackScarlett1 Loving that idea. That would make such a great series.

@mikeballinger1258

2 жыл бұрын

A2 conversion would be awesome

@valdasstonys5675

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard that A2 was initially planned as an EV. Another thing - a local company here in Lithuania converted A2 to fully electric back in 2013.

This is an excellent part of the solution, why scrap cars when most of it is still useful, swap out the ICE drivetrain with an EV. No need to buy a new car. Car manufacturers should be incentivised to do this.

@tatfletch9880

2 жыл бұрын

Even better - when the chassis does go kapput, move the electrical transmission to a new vehicle whether that's yours or someone else's.

@polarspiritcouk

2 жыл бұрын

Had to scrap an otherwise perfect 12 year old Mondeo when clutch actuator failed at 150 000 miles because repair cost > car value . If could have swapped ICE and fuel tank with a motor and battery pack would have been so much more sense, especially if could have then been removed for the next donor car.....

@JackScarlett1

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@petercrisford2867

2 жыл бұрын

Your local repair shop / garage should be incentivised to do this .. don't replace my engine / exhaust with catalytic converter - make the engine and exhaust redundant for me .. keep the guys with spanners engaged and employed, but not through keeping ICE working but in making the EV change happen. These business have the skills, tools facilities and acumen to make it happen

@JohnDoe-bd5sz

2 жыл бұрын

It seems a nice idea, but unless legislation is changed in my country, this would never be allowed. "Constructive changes" has to be approved, and i mean, not just by some guy at the car inspection centre. You need to do calculations that prove that the structure and safety of the vehicle stays the same. It's the same if you wanted to swap out the engine from petrol to diesel, or put in a bigger engine. If you put in a bigger engine and this is an engine that the car could have been bought with, you still need to have it approved, and since it "changed" you would have to pay the difference in registration tax, from the one model to the other.

Interesting stuff. Retrofitting an old car with newer technology has always been my dream.

@MLFranklin

11 ай бұрын

Time for an update.

This company vanished as quick as it appeared.

Best of luck to Transition-One! More options is never a bad thing in this arena

We need more companies doing this.

This is....an amazing thing, he is right it's wasteful to replace everything for the EV version but if you can just convert it into EV and do it for vastly cheaper than a EV that's a no brainer. As an environmental science student this is something I think I will look closely into because I get a lot of people trying to debate me on EVs 🙄

@k.constantine

Жыл бұрын

Until all western countries convert to nuclear energy, EVs are nothing but coal and gas consumers. Solar and wind energy are catabolic systems that do not and cannot produce enough electricity to efficiently offset the waste created by producing and maintaining the infrastructure. Thorium power plants + EVs is the only viable clean future.

@shaunmckenzie5509

Жыл бұрын

Yup, all ICE engines will eventually die. But the car body can last a lot longer. Might as well give the car new life with electric engine.

@marviwilson1853

Жыл бұрын

Cars have a fixed life time anyway so in time all are replaced anyway so their is no waste really. However, many potential EV buyers are unsure of the 2nd hand EV market. What is a good price?, what is a bad price? How much is a 2nd hand EV worth? This conversion option solves that problem by giving you brand new electric components in a 2nd hand body work that people do understand the price of.

@MLFranklin

11 ай бұрын

Time for an update.

I would be extremely interested in seeing this evolve in the USA. I would love to see companies try this.

@lgtvstick368

Жыл бұрын

The big boys of the American car industry here will be ready to "cock-block" any possible threat for as long and hard as they can! ¡!

@michaelplunkett8059

Жыл бұрын

Alas, range too small for me. Daily commute is 52 miles and it snows so if heater on, won't get home.

@MeHighG

Жыл бұрын

they are already doing it

@Uncle_Spooky

Жыл бұрын

Chrysler did. It was called the fiat 500e and nobody bought them. My california lease return ended up in Russia. We just can’t appreciate nice things

@zhorkon

Жыл бұрын

When I was a teenager in the 1960s my first car was an old Renault Dauphine that I bought as a “fix-up” project and rebuilt prior to going off to college. Wonder if these guys will ever make a kit for that oh so French classic “bug”. I might just start looking for another one, cheap! Viva la France!

This is the best initiative I've seen. Teslas and other high end EVs are just a status symbol beyond most people's reach and probably only see about the same use as the Fiat 500 in this video. I have just spent 12 days driving around SE London in a rented diesel Peugeot 206. An electric equivalent with 100 or so KMs of range would have been perfect.

@koitorob

2 жыл бұрын

From what i rmember about driving in London, you should be knighted for doing so for 12 days! Just a drive in and deliver and out again used to leave me angry/stressed enough for the week!

@jamesgrover2005

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a second hand i3 which can go 240km at best, it's a perfect amount of range for us, we've also got fast chargers all over the place in the Netherlands if you want to go for an extended drive. Edit: you should only buy a battery size that fits your daily use, holidays are a once or twice a year event.

@waqasahmed939

2 жыл бұрын

@@koitorob For sure. I'd prefer to park somewhere and use the tube. Driving in London is just stressful

This ticks so many boxes, and I'm glad to see they've considered bringing garages into the fold. Traditional ICE mechanics should seize this opportunity, it'd be a great way to embrace the future.

@shonunezekiel

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! By including everyone in the EV revolution, they minimise casualties! Such a kind and holistic approach, which deserves to be successful :-D

@damham5689

2 жыл бұрын

A few years back here in the US we had at least a half dozen conversion companies. But they pretty much went the way of the DoDo for some reason. Shame. Because I think converting older cars makes a lot of sense.

@blackterminal

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of them will just retire i think. They hate this stuff

@shonunezekiel

2 жыл бұрын

@@blackterminal a lot maybe, but you will agree the ones who retire will be in the minority, yes? most people have to earn a living because they have bills to pay or dependents, and they do not have a retirement fund set up? I had to take my EV to a local two-hand garage to fix something, and they reminded me that they are trained on EVs and that I should bring it to them next time it needs servicing or MOT, instead of to the Nissan garage... they seemed totally unfazed by it being an EV, and just into cars... and making money ;-) ... but that is a very small sample, of course... oh, I have a friend who does car bodywork customisations, and they have EVs coming in to their garage sometimes, and he has never said he has a problem working on them... anyway, that is still a small sample.

@mitchellcrane9809

2 жыл бұрын

I am a mechanic and shop owner. For most people this conversions are BS and impractical.The cost of it makes it for the wealthy who want to feel good about themselves. I can only imagine the conversation telling a customer your car needs a engine for 5k or for double we can put a electric in there that will get pathetic range and it will need to be charged overnight to get that pathetic range.

This is a great idea. There is a niche for short-range, easy-to-convert basic electric transportation vehicles, charged every night and ready for the morning. One thing that intrigued me was targeting conversion kits for specific vehicles. People that already own those types could quickly and cheaply convert their clunker into a nice, clean car. In California, where tons of small cars are used for work, errands, and short trips around town, something like this would be an excellent option for those who cannot afford a new EV. Converting cars that are still serviceable to electric will make it possible for more people to drive an EV. Hopefully, we will see this option come to America very soon.

I love this idea, I think it is a very clever way to transition away from internal combustion engines without unnecessary waste.

Totally awesome! I have been hoping someone would jump in here. The fossil car I had was fine and has maaaany years left and would have been fantastic retrofitted.

@bfelten1

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, Inger. I have a 1977 M-B 450 SL in mint condition. But it has this 20l/100km gas-guzzling V8 that don't have many horsepowers left in it. I'd be happy to violate the Golden Rule of Classics, just to get it EV converted, so I once again can take it for a spin without being ruined. And I don't care much about performance, I just want to silently glide up and down the street couple of times, and then go home to plug it into my standard 10 A 230V socket and have it fully tanked overnight. I leave all the 0-60 in two-second wankers to compensate for whatever they feel the need to.

@uwucaffeineaddiction4023

2 жыл бұрын

What car is it?

@IngerMaaike2

2 жыл бұрын

@@uwucaffeineaddiction4023 a 2007 mitubishi outlander. Gave it to one of my kids. I got a tesla y.

@jpgmccabe

2 жыл бұрын

It only took 8 years... For a government to recognise any sense... The French, enabling a clean future, other countries won't even legalise escooters....

@koitorob

2 жыл бұрын

@@bfelten1 That's a big car to be fitted with that small power train.

This is pretty huge! On top of being cheap & sustainable, if you are really attached to your current car, you can now keep that!

This is wonderful. Kudos to that team, it's about time something like this exists! The idea to get garages all over to go the work is brilliant, I hope it works!

By far one of the best ideas the show has demonstrated.

I've been arguing for this sort of approach for a long time, but here's some issues to consider:- The French government is supporting such a venture with financial incentives for the buyer. However, here in the UK things are rather different. One big incentive to spend the money on such a conversion is to subsequently enjoy the reduced VED (road tax) applicable to an EV. Yet here in the UK, DVLA REFUSE to re-classify converted cars (from 2001-2017, the most likely age range of suitable cars) to electric and INSIST on charging VED at the original ICE based rate. I've been arguing with them about this for the last year or more but they are intransigent and will NOT budge from their position that such converted cars CANNOT be re-classified. However, they are WRONG about this. Fact is, DVLA are misinterpreting the law which is actually very clear that such electrically propelled vehicles are EXEMPT from VED. However DVLA continually misinterpret this with their faulty logic. As if they consider such tax revenue their own to collect in any way they can, even by distorting the law. For those who don't want to delve into the wording of the actual regulations in question. Here is a précis of the regs. as they affect cars first regd. between 2001 and 2017 :- • All cars shall be taxed at rate X (complex rules and defined elsewhere) • EXCEPT electrically propelled vehicles which are EXEMPT. DVLA are interpreting that as meaning cars first regd. between 2001 and 2017 and converted to electric must continue to be taxed at rate X. I hope that clarifies what DVLA are doing. Of course, you can still convert a car of that age and maybe you don't think it matters that you have to keep paying the ICE based VED rate, but whatever your financial position, it is WRONG. A car converted to electric should pay VED at the EV rate. No question. That is what the regulations actually state on this matter. So there we have a fundamentally different attitude between the UK and French authorities. The French recognise the obvious benefits of converting older cars to EV, not only the instant reduction in harmful pollution it brings, but also saving the much larger environmental damage caused by the manufacture of ANY new car and they are prepared to support such activities. Whereas here in the UK we are being actively discouraged from doing so. What can we do? We need to pressurise the UK's actual government to force DVLA to toe the line. No changes are required to the law. DVLA must just be ordered to apply it correctly. For that we need enough support to get the government to take notice. Lat year I contacted Robert and Fully Charged Show to ask for their support on this. If only to bring this miscarriage of justice to more people's attention. Eventually I was brushed off with "FCS are too busy". Seems to me, adding their full support to bring pressure on the UK government to correct this dire situation is exactly what they should be doing. Over to you Fully Charged Show.

@UKenGB

2 жыл бұрын

@@nedkelly4825 Yes of course, but until someone steps up and offers to let themselves be taken to court over driving an untaxed vehicle (there's no way to simply pay a different rate), I think it's worth first trying to make DVLA see the error of and correct their ways.

@AuraTrimCoMeath

2 жыл бұрын

This looks like lobby of ev manufacturers, forcing dvla to eliminate convertions.

@bmpowellicio

2 жыл бұрын

The basic Twingo or FIAT 500 is taxed at £30 per annum. Are many people going to get agitated over still paying that when their saving on petrol is £500?

@kevindarkstar

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmpowellicio you're missing the legal and moral point, that attitude is exactly how government extract huge amounts of money from the people, by apathy and acquiescence

@UKenGB

2 жыл бұрын

@@AuraTrimCoMeath I don't think they need to. DVLA are managing to screw things up all by themselves.

Absolutely brilliant idea love it, takes recycling to another more practical level altogether

@marviwilson1853

Жыл бұрын

The recycling concept is not really true. In conventional cars it is the body work that fails first not the mechanicals. Switching out a perfectly sound ic engine with electrical components in a structure which is rusting at its usual rate anyway makes no sense form a recycling point of view.

@medicinemouse7647

Жыл бұрын

@@marviwilson1853 sorry but the always moving most complex component of the car lasts longer than the body??? I've almost always had an engine give out on me before the rest of the car

I do really appreciate the actually affordable EV video, thankyou for making it, keep up this good work.

Great for two car families where one car only needs to do the school or shopping run etc. but many of us need one all rounder

I'm a lecturer and have Motor Vehicle students at all levels as well as other engineering students. This is just the kind of video I love to use in class. They are starting out on their careers, many have come on to the course from working on ICE cars and have a love of motor vehicles. This kind of video gives them a clear career path and inspiration.

Excellence. I contacted all main garages on the main road networks of Britain and not one gave any sign of conversion possibilities. I contacted them with regards green hydrogen refurbishment more than a few years back but this idea is even better. Truly excellent because it gives those with least access to the EV market. Well done to all involved with this introduction.

Totally agree, we Hot Rodders have been doing this for years except we wanted more power not economy. But I think now is the time to combine these objectives. I love keeping the transmission and operating thru all the same components PLUS regen brakes. I build factory Forklift trucks in 1975 and we designed regeneration cycles when lowering a load from high up. In fact a furniture warehouse had a truck on low battery, he when high empty and brought down couches to a lower level to charge enough to get back to the charge stations. We know Regen works. I am in America and i hope these boys are able to find partners in America to perform the installs to out older American gas powered drivers. Wonderful concept and seems like a genuine smart dude. Thank You, Dennis in Virginia

This is a fantastic development, it allows so many more people to change over, whilst also minimising the waste from the old cars. Love it!

@JackScarlett1

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Would love to track down my first car (crap old Fiesta) and resurrect it

@davidstuart4915

2 жыл бұрын

far from a new development, however it is the price that appeals...which unfortunately seems very naïve / hopeful - Most UK garage would charge customer more just for fitting? I think the whole solution would need doing in a low cost economy

The first gen Electric Berlingo/Partner (Circa 1998) had a 16kWh pack, it was basic tech, nickel cadmium, and brushed DC motor. 60 mile range. I drove one for a year, great for round town. They made them until 2005.

iv been thinking for years that what we need is someway to convert current cars, i am SOOO pleased to see someone with the skills work on this!

Great concept, I hope this is a huge success & filters to other parts of the globe. The fact that there can be local authorised fitment is huge & could definitely ensure the future of workshops that will otherwise (eventually) be obsolete.

Thank you for all your work on this episode, Fully Charged Team! This is a BRILLIANT concept and eco business! Really enjoyed this.

This is truly exciting, thank you for covering this!

Awesome! The real sustainable solution I've been waiting for this since conversion kits for e-bikes were introduced.

I highly appreciate this more inclusive approach from Transition-One. As people go over to EVs, and if we can find ways to bring along people like traditional mechanics and garages over to the EV side, we will experience less and less resistance and more support from traditional industry that tends to be killed off by these newer industries.

I hope this is available in USA. I would definitely convert my old engine to EV.

@SecondLifeDesigner

2 жыл бұрын

There is. Look up EV West KZread channel. They are located in California I believe.

@chrisheery

2 жыл бұрын

@@SecondLifeDesigner their stuff starts at a much higher price point though. Much.

@zackula1

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisheery You are not completely wrong. Take the non-subsidized price of what Transition One is doing, compare it to the cheapest kit from EV West (plus a small battery), and you are looking at ~$2,200 more for EV West's offering. Then pay someone to install the kit, and you can be looking at a much higher price. More competition in the sector would be nice. However, these conversions, for a used Fiat 500, by Transition One (unsubsidized) cost over $8,000... That's conveniently about the same price as a used Fiat 500e (in the US), if not slightly more. The example in the video is using the subsidy, and also buying a used Fiat 500, to have the car be the same price as the already existing 500e. The benefit of going with Transition One? New drive components and more importantly a new battery. The battery is the most expensive part of the operation, and biggest cause for concern in used EVs. If the government could subsidize batteries, or if they stopped subsidizing Transition One, then it would be more sensible to buy a used EV, and when needed swap out the battery. Do not get me wrong. I think innovation is great, and options for those who want an EV are great. Transition One and EV West are both contributing to this benefit for consumers. I think that in the current market, both companies serve more of a niche than the general public. Not because of the scale of their operations, but because even when their operation gets larger and more adapted, the price of used EVs will also have gone down. In the US used EVs (in fully running order) can be had for less than $7,000. I'd be surprised if there aren't various EVs on the used market in Europe for under the €5,000 subsidized price of this product/service by Transition One. Hopefully one day we see entrepreneurs in the likes of Guatemala and other poorer countries start manufacturing EV parts and batteries, converting old scrapyard vehicles, and selling them back to the richer countries Another way to look at it, if a converted vehicle isn't price competitive with and isn't as readily available as a used EV, then there is little to no incentive to most consumers to go that route. If the conversion becomes too cheap, then people will actually be discarding used EVs and/or already converted vehicles to convert another. In its current state, if a country such as France wanted to get more and more ICE vehicles off the road, then they could subsidize even more dramatically, for a short period of time. Make converting vehicles even more cost competitive with repairing old vehicles. After a significant number of vehicles have been converted, they could end the subsidies on conversions (hoping that the free market will continue to price itself more competitively), and redirect that subsidy money towards refurbishing and keeping older EVs still running.... ...Or a country can start funding research on battery technology that isn't as harmful to the environment as lithium, if their ultimate goal is environmental friendliness... but honestly this last point is a different conversation

@brianb-p6586

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisheery the price of this kit is imaginary, until they actual sell them. Then you'll see the real price of the kit, and the real cost of installation.

@chrisheery

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianb-p6586 that’s true!

I've seen many try this, but Transition One appears to have a smart approach and government subsidies are essential to get high quality components. Bravo, I wish them much success!!

I want a drop-in solution for a diy hybrid. This would be perfect for some user cases, like for people who mix short commutes and long haul travels.

This is bloody brilliant. More of this please 🙏

13:20 Another huge cost savings of conversions with *small* battery packs is the fact that you don't have to augment the suspension. You can just not even touch it. I'm guessing with a larger pack, say 30kwhr of LFP cells totaling 800lbs boxed in safely (well more than a couple hundred pounds net conversion weight increase), you really need to alter the suspension. And that's a whole 'thing' to figure out for each model.

@rkan2

2 жыл бұрын

Traditionally with EV conversions you cannot change the weight capacity or total weight with payload easily. You can however restrict it's use for example by removing the rear seats. For this same reason big engined and big cars are good options for EV conversions outside smaller cars, since you can stuff a lot of batteries in it.

@P-Bee

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, although I could not help thinking that the front of that Fiat 500 looked a bit low with the wheels squashed into the arches more than I would expect. We don't see many 500s here in NZ so maybe that's just me.

@MrHugaKuga

2 жыл бұрын

The nice thing as well is a small 15kwh battery will charge quickly...

@alexshepherd

2 жыл бұрын

In response to Peter - I’m also in NZ but have owned two FIAT 500s - the front suspension looks fairly normal but the rear suspension is riding a bit low; however, it’s within design parameters (when you put two people in the back of the standard car plus something in the boot, it rides about the same height as that). I think this is a good idea. Generally I am not in favour of electric conversions in older vehicles, as there are safety compromises or a loss of character. In this case, the 500 is sturdily-made and the 1.2L four-cyl is no great loss. Cost probably similar or slightly greater than the used-import early Leafs that we have in NZ, for similar range/performance but in a smaller car. It is stylish and modern enough not to give up much to the Leaf in convenience or safety, and the handling will at least be similar (the Leaf is nothing too special)…

@davidstuart4915

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrHugaKuga ..but a realistic winter range of 35 mls is of little to no use - economising is one thing, desirability / usability, quite another - min 200 mls range for 2023 is a reasonable goal perhaps

It's great to see this kind of small companies becoming the ideal link to offer a new product, being responsible with the environment and recycling at the same time. PD. To the Fully Charge team, please, add the YT end cards with the recommendations clips so the "I hate Jack" bit goes full circle. I loved that!

Your final thoughts are spot on. This is better than regular EV's in many ways.

Thanks for your video! It's great to see that conversions may become available in the near future. So far (at least in Germany) there are only a handful of companies/garages offering an EV retrofit for your existing car. And last time i looked they were rather expensive expensive. It's also great France is offering subsidies for conversions. In Germany that's unfortunately not the case atm, even though it would make perfect sense.

Bloomin' marvellous! I wish them success as this is a great low impact way to get more EVs in the hands of the public.

I had my imagination around this some time ago. Its cool to see someone is actually doing this. Must be lots of fun coming up with the idea for the unit to how to make it compatible with each car and scale-able on a production side. Its easy to create a power train of standardized sizes (small, medium, large) and then you have to create a connection modules for each individual car like engine mount part module and cables connection module for onboard electronics and devices. I can see that with many cars there would be issues with onboard computer getting errors from various sensors and especially with BMW's.

This is the solution that everyone has been waiting for; excellent! As is your pronunciation of the word _kilometre;_ well done, good sir.

Very exciting, I've been waiting to see someone come up with a kit like this. My wife has a 2010 manual beetle which she loves however the future to keeping it will be as an EV. Looking forward to seeing a conversion option in Australia. As batteries get better so will range.

@columbus7950

9 ай бұрын

Electric Classic Cars does a conversion kit for a beetle I think

And this is exactly what I’ve been saying for years, maybe, just maybe someone doesn’t want a futuristic electric car and they want their favourite car to be electric. This is great

@natesmodelsdoodles5403

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly the case for me. I don't want a shiny new tesla, I want my trusty old Buick to get an electric engine.

I can't even describe how badly I want to have a 1999 Twingo converted to electric. It would honestly be my dream car. Best of luck to this company!

@johnknight9150

2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to when this is not just mass-scale, but the norm, and applied to vehicles of all shapes and sizes. I want to keep driving my old Saab. Nothing has a big boot and wonderful seats like a Saab!

@JackScarlett1

2 жыл бұрын

Electric Fiat 126 for me pls

@rgd1977

2 жыл бұрын

Wow gotta dream big eh, look to the stars! 😂

@mistervelux

2 жыл бұрын

Bmw e30 convertible!

@richardharrold9736

2 жыл бұрын

@@mistervelux nah, E30s are one car that really should keep their petrol engines.

So glad someone is doing retrofit conversions. This will be a massive savings to buyers and equally important, our environment.

Seen a few of these companies now, but never one that's aiming at the low end of the market. All existing seem to be high value/classic car swaps. Hopefully more companies like this emerge.

Love it! Upcycling is so important. This is bloody amazing and exactly teh sort of electric future I've been waiting to hear about! Affordable!

I wish I had capital to invest in a project like this in Canada. So much of Canadians live within big cities and could very much utilize one of these style of vehicles for daily driving, and their biggest hangups about EV's always comes back to price (and the federal government doesn't give full incentives until the price of the vehicle hits $44,999 CAD).

awesome work going on! it’s a great alternative to buying a new EV like a Tesla which can be almost as expensive as a house with no government rebates. look forward to hearing more about this project :)

This is a great idea. It's not going to be for everyone but it broadens the possibilities and includes way more people in the ability to have an EV than ever before and at a much more affordable price point

Its a great proposition! Super excited to see how it goes! Would also love if the made multiple tiers of conversions with higher specs

I've always felt this was needed. Most of all, I think a conversion for the most common vans (Vivaro/Trafic and Transit) is needed. Yes, a lot do big miles, but many don't. And there's a LOT of space under the floor available for a rectangular battery pack of a decent size; even the possibility of modular multi-battery conversions to allow different cost/range options. I'd do it myself if I had the money and 2 years to get it done in.

@bloodynorahvan2203

2 жыл бұрын

exactly! Plenty of room under chassis for the battery

@judo-rob5197

2 жыл бұрын

Plus room on the top for solar panels.

This is so important! Please give them even more exposure!

I'm glad someone is something the conversation process. It's been around in diy format for decades now. Forums as old as 2004 and older just for this stuff. Good to see it.

I'd have loved to have seen the actual solution in shot for more than a few glimpses. Perhaps you could visit them to record the construction and fitting of one of their kits.

@yrma_fletcher8953

2 жыл бұрын

they might be protecting a bit till they get up and running fully

@AndrewHelgeCox

2 жыл бұрын

@@nedkelly4825 You noticed the rusty bolt heads too?

This is brilliant! I know EV conversion is possible (I've watched Vintage Voltage) at a heinous price, but this is a game changer.

Amazing concept, never even thought this could be done, will be revolutionary!

This is a no-brainer, better to retrofit than waste carbon and cost building whole new cars, thanks for sharing 👍

OMG, absolutely brilliant,this is perfect strategy, supporting local garages as well. What a win win.

LOVE IT!! What a great product. High demand for new ev cars is pushing prices way too high for bargain hunters wanting to go green. Repurposing an existing gas car is a logical and effective solution.

this is really something we need. recently i was thinking about the absurdly high range of electric cars, the problem is that you will drive the extra weight around town even if you only need 100km/day. this conversion seems to me to be the right step into the future.

Update: The company unfortunately went bankrupt in early 2023.

@dennisba85

6 ай бұрын

Yep, website down, last Instagram post dec 2022. Sad but kinda expected, lots of companies tried this, most hardly have any sales. I mean if you buy an old renault Clio for 3000€ and out another 5-8k in it you still have an old car. For that price you can also get a pre-owned Zoe with more range and no diy wiring

@benblarney

5 ай бұрын

This is sad. Isn't there any other company doing something similar?

@CatherineThompson98

5 ай бұрын

It probably went down purposefully because big companies want people to buy new things all the time 🙄

@MenkoDany

5 ай бұрын

They should honestly take this video down, it seems reasonable to conclude it could have been vaporware from the start

@MenkoDany

5 ай бұрын

​@@dennisba85 Last blog post was from 20th January 2023. I found a datapoint that said "Bankruptcy: Liquidation 17-Mar-2023" but I don't know if this is the start or the end of the bankruptcy date (given how long bankruptcies usually take, I'd wager this is more of a start of bankruptcy proceedings date, but I dunno)

I'm in the US but I can't wait to convert my old Miata into an EV. Hopefully with a more powerful motor so I can get the hp of a turbo. Excited for the day that these conversion kits are readily available

@CheapskateMotorsports

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to do this to an old rx8 with a broken engine. Might finally be able to actually use one on a daily basis loooool. But not gonna lie, that range sounds like utter shite.

@leojuninocencio

Жыл бұрын

I want it in my Avalanche ❤

Such a refreshing outlook. I don’t want an old car that was designed for 50hp to have an EV 40k conversion and 300bhp output. I want it to still have around 50bhp and spend 5k to 10k. Now we need someone in the UK who does that……

@theairstig9164

2 жыл бұрын

Send your car to them

@peterchandler8505

2 жыл бұрын

@@theairstig9164 They are only making the kits for your local garage to do the swop over, as said towards the end of the video, a 4 hour job at your local approved garage

I hope they do a DIY version 😊

@vladnickul

9 ай бұрын

they will not.

@bmc9504

8 ай бұрын

​@@vladnickulyou already can do it yourself. Many are. Google conversion kits.

@vladnickul

8 ай бұрын

crappy conversion kits. :) 10K for a motor 15k or batteries and invertors one is better of pilleging a crashed EV, or custom made all of it. @@bmc9504 For EV conversions to really take off people need some standard mounts for motors battery packs that are indeed modular (one that can fit in a hole under the seats maybe) and so on. thing that will make people want to buy them and have a viable car after it, In europe even fitting better aftermarket "bolt on" brakes if you want to do it legally will take a lot of time and money.

I think this guy is so cool! What a brilliant plan! I sure hope the deliveries can start much sooner though. Jehu Garcia did a great youtube video about converting a VW van to electric with old power tool battery cells. Imagine an old classic all dolled up and fully electric? That would be so cool!

Would love to do an EV conversion on a normal car

@theobserver9131

2 жыл бұрын

When parts prices come down more, I want to convert my Ford Ranger.

@rp9674

2 жыл бұрын

Normal!

@HB-zs5pp

2 жыл бұрын

@@rp9674 sorry, poor wording. I mean a regular every day car. Not an old classic or a super expensive sports car.

@rp9674

2 жыл бұрын

@@HB-zs5pp I wasn't correcting, just thought it was funny!

@alastairward2774

2 жыл бұрын

Same, would be fun to keep my 17 year old Saab on the road this way.

Love this! Had definitely been frustrated by all the luxury cars fully charged has done videos on recently. This is much more about actual sustainability!

fantastic concept, can't believe there are not more companies doing this. I want to convert mine today

I don't think it's likely, but it would be interesting to see if car companies went this route and offered conversion kits for their own vehicles. They wouldn't need to develop the adaptor parts per model, as the car company would know all that and could size things perfectly. They could also more easily certify the safety too.

150Wh/km is pretty impressive for any EV. Weight really makes a difference.

13:00 That's it! The key to the most environmentally friendly, lightweight (= more fun to drive), and cost effective EV's is to have a small battery. Sure it has to be charged more often, but for those who can charge at home and don't need to take frequent long distance trips, this may be just about perfect! I hope to see more EV's with batteries under 40 kWh. Nice work, and well done!

@Shamshiro

2 жыл бұрын

Not everyone's interested in having overpriced slot cars, fortunately.

A simple, elegant solution to a massive problem. If they manage to scale this up, this has the potential to solve urban air pollution world-wide. Brilliant. Innovative creation of the year.

This is actually an excellent idea. I have been watching DIY conversions for a while now. I hope in the future they can venture internationally. I have a VW beetle sitting here that no one wants to buy. I hope I can just retrofit this one.

@Ihaveausernametoo

Жыл бұрын

I've heard it's one of the easiest engines to switch out. If that's the case, congrats.

I love this idea! I wish they would focus also on Smart cars because they have a pretty unique way of mounting engines, it's literally 4 screws to take out the engine with the rear axle.

The first genuine “Fit for purpose” EV, this is absolutely amazing 🤩

I have yet to get my license (I'm 21, but I just recently have been able to pay it), and I would LOVE the idea of getting a volvo 240 wagon, and converting it into an EV! I would adore it.

This is a very brilliant idea. I really hope there's something like this in my country, Malaysia. Instead of selling full EV, we can use what we have and convert it into an EV. This can be a lot cheaper + cheap cars like Kancil and Axia should support it. I really hope we have something like this.

It's the missing bit. And being able to take a runabout that we already have and make it EV is a fantastic idea. I don't think that the UK authorities allow the reclassification of ice to EV, apart from classic cars, so that will have to change, or people with EV conversions will end up paying ulez charges when that shouldn't. Overall, it's properly cool

@toyotaprius79

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's a matter of the dealership market in the UK that wouldn't allow your UK authorities to do it

@patrickjr11

2 жыл бұрын

@@toyotaprius79 the problem appears to be that the DVLA don't really understand what they need to do to confirm that a car now has EV status, and/or that the VED rates can even be updated. The pre VED system is still in force for pre 2002 cars and they can be converted but only by a recognised company. No DIY conversion allowed. Which is fine. You don't want to muck around with high voltage stuff.

@logicalChimp

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention that it doesn't even need to be a working donor - even if it has a dead engine, one that wasn't economical to fix, provided the rest is OK it could be converted... and you can pick one of those up dirt cheap (few hundred quid), and trailer it down for the conversion.

@rkan2

2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickjr11 In many countries in EU or following EU regulation EV conversions are possible but the biggest issue is EMC compatibility. With pre 2002/1998 cars there is less requirements. In Finland they recently made the regulation easier and now you aren't supposed to need any tests if you can prove the parts are already EMC approved from say another EV.

@patrickjr11

2 жыл бұрын

@@rkan2 that makes sense and clearly what is the plan here too. Make the kit, get it certified and get the installers certified. So the whole thing is effectively type approved up front. It's very much the correct approach.

This is the game changer indeed, if it passes for the UK I for one have a Hyundai i10 I'd like to get converted. I would like a little more range, maybe 100 miles and there wasn't anything about charge system and times, AC\DC and so on. Very good episode folks, thank you very much.

Game changer well done transition one wish you great success it sickens me to see so many new cars being produced and good cars being scraped keep old cars running it's better for the planet and your pocket

This is def innovation from the bottom. bravo. while id like to see the range be larger before I personally would transition, I do greatly appreciate this.

This definitely the right way and future for ev. For every one. Million of road worthy car's out there👍 excellent stuff.

I'd love to convert my SLK one day. I love having a hard top convertible and it would be a terrible waste to scrap my car when the engine is worn out and build a new one. It would be useful if the law changed to allow me to fit decent headlights too.

@theairstig9164

2 жыл бұрын

There are better choices to convert. Like a beetle

@peterchandler8505

2 жыл бұрын

@@theairstig9164 I thought the whole idea was to convert the car that you already have on your drive. Transition One simplifies the conversion process so much that you drop your treasured gasping ICE car off at your local garage in the morning, and later that day pick up your treasured wheels now gliding ecologically along electrically... Granted, Jack did talk about this being a great route to buy a cheap runabout & convert it, that was so much an afterthought.... This is a great move, a transition so that we do not need to wait for this ICE power plants to expire before our vehicle fleet is electrified

@chrisogrady28

2 жыл бұрын

@@theairstig9164 how is a bettle a better alternative to an SLK? They (and I) want a low 2 seat convertible...

@PaulMansfield

2 жыл бұрын

@@theairstig9164 you missed the point. He already had a car, and wants to convert that, not buy a beetle most to convert it!

@JackScarlett1

2 жыл бұрын

Phwoar. Electric SLK would be a seriously wafty experience

Excellente idée, bravo ! I like the approach, very clever business model too / scalable.

I converted a Toyota SR5 to an EV back in 2007. 110Vdc Lead Acid battery and DC motor. Conclusion: needs much lighter battery and AC motor drive with regenerative braking. Congrats TransitionOne! I think you've done it. Only thing better is a ground up designed EV like the BoltEV I drive now....

Finally small ev’s and i already own the chassis, amazing!

This is fantastic and exactly what I’ve been hoping to see happen. I have an 11 year old Prius, nothing wrong with it and my intention is to keep it as long as possible. If I could convert it to an EV it would have an extremely long life. Will be watching this very closely.

And now, a year later, the website does not exist anymore and the company is nowhere to be found....

Amazing 😍 I hope this will be a reality for most countries asap. governments need to reconsider this approach, and software companies develop easy to use software for these converted cars.

I've been saying for a while that this approach is the way forward . I'm over the moon that a company has been formed to do this and hope they are blessed with every success. Maybe a flexible design to certain components will make it available to a wider range of vehicles .

@harrytsang1501

Жыл бұрын

The reason most projects you see online ended up expensive is that they overhauled the whole thing to fit a bigger battery. They managed it by targeting a smaller battery which would make things fit in the space of a regular engine. One drawback it’s that they may need to spin the motor like a started engine to keep ac and power steering which has its inefficiencies

Wow love the direction this is going in this opens up huge opportunities to mechanics. Will be looking on to see how this company develops

I mean, this is great. I hope they develop their company to the point of where you can actually choose your desired power level and battery size. You could simply buy some dirt cheap car and turn it into an EV also for cheap. Imagine buying a 500 Eur car and spending only 5k Eur into converting it into an EV. That sounds really good. There are so many Peugeots 406 for sale and you can even get them with modern features like light and rain sensors in that price range.

As a mechanical engineer, I thought this was a great idea years ago and have promised my friends from around the world that I would some day convert my 2003 Porsche 996 Turbo to electric. I still think this is a great idea and may start a business offering this service in the USA.

@timmyturner485

Жыл бұрын

Where are you from Clint?

Sounds like a great idea! The cost of conversion may further be brought down if the existing ICE components are salvaged. With all the precious metals available in ICE after-treatment catalysts and the sheer amount of metal, it may really work out to be quite cheap.

I’ve been eyeing up an old Metro thats under wraps in a neighbours drive, this could lead to me making them a cheeky offer. Electric Metro - yes!!

Exciting stuff! Love this idea!

Amazing idea! Love it. What happens to the engines btw? And would be nice to know the proposed charge time and compatibility with existing charging locations in UK and europe?