Amazon links for various products used in the video for both USA and Canada: USA: Pickle/tuning fork kit: amzn.to/2NLVKqi Ball joint separator: amzn.to/3boWJ8j Canada: Pickle/tuning fork kit: amzn.to/3btNtPY Ball joint separator: amzn.to/3aDZIKR

No music. Well recorded voice instructions and clear pictures. If only other KZreadrs could do as good as this. Brilliant. Thank you.

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words, greatly appreciated!

i personally like adding in swearing. the balljoint understands me...

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

That's the stuff I have to edit out of videos lol.

@Mr.Thermistor7228

2 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes that is the best I’ve found as well

@paulrichards8760

Жыл бұрын

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@dreddwailing5505

Жыл бұрын

Blood also makes a good lubricant for stuck car parts

@ChristianConstitutionalist3192

6 ай бұрын

Facts

I love the comments on this video, I can really feel the pain. I must have hit that fork very hard with a club hammer 500 times before it suddenly fell apart. I am replacing the lower control arm and ball joint so I wasn’t being careful. Don’t give up just keep hitting the bloody thing!

@ianmcclintock944

Жыл бұрын

ended up breaking both of my hammers and its 11:47 pm so everything around me is closed and i have to make it into work tomorrow :(

@602ricky9

Жыл бұрын

@@ianmcclintock944 has to be one of the worst feelings, at this point you want to light the car on fire and walk away

Thumbs up for using the right tools! I've seen too many people heat a ball joint. That is the worst thing you can do to something that's pressed in to place. It can shoot out like a bullet and kill you if you heat it. Don't do the job if you don't have the right tools. You can borrow or rent tools from just about any auto parts store if you can't afford to buy and don't have a friend to borrow from. You're taking a risk of losing a limb or your life using the wrong tool(s).

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words and feedback!

@_clownworld

8 ай бұрын

Sometimes heat is the last resort of nothing else works

Very thorough and explanatory presentation !

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Ended up mushrooming the top of the bolt so I'll have to cut the bolt once I get the sucker loose so it'll fit out! Replacing the parts anyway. Thanks for the video!

Thanks! I'll be putting these to work tomorrow.

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

No problem and awesome to hear!

Thanks.Good explanations and video quality was good.

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

Happy to help and thank you for the feedback :)

Your tips were awesome because I have been struggling getting a lower ball joint loose

@4DIYers

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I personally found that attaching a big steel pipe to the end of the pickle fork and pressing down on the pipe finally made the SOB pop out, this should work great if you have a Charger/Challenger/300/Magnum

Great video. Thought I'd give you an update on my Jaguar XF vibration. The dealer called me today to say that they tested the new drive shaft they fitted and it is out of balance. They will order a new one under warranty claim and hopefully the vibration will be solved. Thanks for your advice. You're a great source of knowledge. I'm sure others will appreciate you just as much 🤗👍

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you and excellent to hear it's getting solved! Good thing it still has warranty on it as well, that would be getting quite costly if you had to pay for a replacement again.

Tuning fork ...rich...thanks for share good video👍

Helpful thank you.

This is awesome the last one was for my car specifically

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@sonnycarson86

3 жыл бұрын

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How do you find a ball joint separator to fit your vehicle? I have a 2005 Honda CRV. do you have to go buy the part and then try different tools? I don't mind spending the cash for a tool, but I would like to know it is going to work first.

When I hammer a balljoint or tie rod end to replace it - use a scissor's jack under the end of the threaded portion. Leave the castle nut on but loosened to protect the threads if you are re-using it. With tension on the end of the balljoint or tie rod threaded portion, whack the steering knuckle next to it and for a split second it will vibrate and deform releasing the tapered shaft. With the nut still on the threaded portion it can only move 1/8" or so and there are no safety issues either. This also works on shafts which need to be protected like steering boxes. Whack on both sides at the same time with two heavy hammers. Doesn't take too much. I have also wedged a hammer between a steering box and the frame rail to vibrate the shaft but not damage anything.

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome tips, thank you for sharing!

Thank you so much it helped me a lot

@4DIYers

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Thanks bud!

Suspension is rusty and ugly like mine thats why i clicked to see how it is possible to remove? Spent 3 hrs trying to remove ball joint but no luck. Your video gave me hope especially with basic tools not hydro or air gun. Thanks!

Got it! Thanks...

Big help bro thank u

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

No problem, happy to help :)

Just used the BFH method to break free my steering so I could adjust something. Thanks!

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

Cool,. I work at a shop and always use a big hammer. 👍

Tried all of these to no avail! The balljoint somehow broke my bj separator AND the threads mushroomed and cracked at the cotter pin hole. Nearly broke my pickle fork as well. I even tried the method of wedging a ratchet between the knuckle and lca and using my body weight to pop it out, but ended up damaging the ratchet instead. Rust from snowy climates is no joke! I bought a compressor and air hammer as my last resort. I’m hoping this resilient ball joint doesn’t break those too! 😂

@tagapiouplayz3737

2 жыл бұрын

What happened in the end ?

@omahanprabla3058

2 жыл бұрын

Did you end up using heat?

@Trildin

Жыл бұрын

Same situation here, done everything I can think of/heard online... even 3 methods all combined at once didn't break the fucker free.. I'm so demoralized I just want to sell it to be honest.

@lilblingking1491

Жыл бұрын

@@tagapiouplayz3737 sorry for the late response! The balljoint got so messed up in the process of trying to break it loose that I had to press the old one out and replace it

@TimmyMill87

10 ай бұрын

It's a bit late, but just a tip for the future: lubricate the threads on the bj separator tool with some type of lubricant like tap or cutting oil to help protect the threads from getting damaged from the heat caused by friction, if that makes sense

Thanks brother

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

No problem, happy to help :)

classic riviera 3 corners new springs and shocks! slow work but cheaper than the shop. i get to the drivers side front the tie rod and the ball joint will NOT separate, going to try to get the lever and screw(#4 in the vid) at the parts store/ tool wholesale tomorrow. removing full size Buick springs is as nerve racking as combat and probly more dangerous.

Appreciate the video.

@4DIYers

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

No problem, happy to help!

Definitely gonna use the hammer method. 😂 Thanks for the tips

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

No problem!

@thronewalker1153

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck.

Great info..thx

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

No problem and thank you!

Keep it up

If you lubricate the fork with silicone oil this greatly reduces the chance of damaging the rubber boot

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome tip, thank you for sharing!

@trailman20

Жыл бұрын

I've never seen a way to use one without destroying the boot

@ballhawk387

8 ай бұрын

I figured the boot would be shot using a fork, which would commit one to completing the job. Or if just removing the tie rod to get at something else, replacing the boot. But may as well at least replace the tie rod end if it's old, they're cheap.

Ty ty ty ty ty 👍✌️

I always had good luck with method #2 but with 2 hammers . Strike both sides at The same time ....1.....2.....3.... strike the nut on threaded end , and POP!!!!

Cant beat..the few WUACK..with the hammer..that is the best one.

Hey how do I remove the ball joint on my 2014 jeep cherokee

nice video, missed out on the problem with the spinning nut.. that's driving me nuts, and cant smash a fork into it since i need to reuse the ball joint

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! For that, you can use a clamp to push down the taper in the steering knuckle or sometimes they have an stud which can take an allen wrench to hold it in place. If you have access, an impact can also remove the nut quickly.

@CiscoValderama

4 жыл бұрын

Hi,I would cut the nut,either with a nut splitter,or a cutting wheel on a dremel or grinder,trying not to damage the threads.

@JayJay-pm6yf

4 жыл бұрын

4DIYers i tried the impact on my crown vic but its still just spinning...any pointers?

aaah, good ol hammer style, used it for years, still gonna be using it

@Matt-vb2jo

3 жыл бұрын

old school is the only school, if your hammer doesn't work get a bigger one.

@datutturugang666

3 жыл бұрын

@@Matt-vb2jo hell yeah, worst case scenario it snaps off

To save damaging the thread put the castle nut on upside down, screw it flush with the end of the thread. 😉

@4DIYers

2 ай бұрын

Great tip, thanks for sharing!

I've got the fork but the damn knucle just won't come off and I damaged the boot. Hopefully I didnt damage the ball joint itself.

Ive tried the first 3 of these and none of them worked, i evan resorted to hitting the threads of the balljoint directly with a hammer to knock it lose and was planning to use an angle grinder to grind off the part i squished so it will come out, no luck. Will that separater do it? Ive never had to use one before becouse when im replacing stubborn balljoints normally a good smack with a big ass hammer does the trick then i grind off the tip that is now squished if it won't fit through the hole.

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

Have you tried lowering the suspension and putting the vehicle's weight on that side before hitting it? You might be fighting against the movement of the suspension so you're not able to get a solid hit and it'll also help change the angle.

Nice video. That vehicle looks like it takes a daily brine bath.

get jackstand under there boy! don't want you getting hurt. cool vid.thanks.

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

There's a jack stand under there, always is. That's why I use the large plastic sheet so it has good support on a dirt driveway. Thank you :)

Thanks bro method 2 worked great

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

I tried the separator and as I tighten it just slips out. Rented tuning fork and got the tie rod off no problem and didn't rip the boot. Now I have to get the upper and lower ball joint separated.

Problems with method one. The ball joint sometimes won’t come out. Method 2 won’t work a majority of the time. Method 3 is basically the same as method one. Method 4 is the best method ever. Go get the tool. It works 99.9% of the time. It has never failed to pop the ball joint free for me.

@Trildin

Жыл бұрын

I got one yesterday and still not working when also using method 2 at the same time, AND with extra pressure on the control arm with a jack. So depressing, I feel like I'm at a loss and should sell the fucker..

@thronewalker1153

Жыл бұрын

@@Trildin Put the castle nut back on the ball joint upside down til it’s about flush with the bottom of the thread. Then use method 4. If it still won’t budge then use an impact gun on the ball joint tool. If it still won’t budge use a torch. Heat it up for 10minutes then try again.

@Trildin

Жыл бұрын

@@thronewalker1153 Thanks man :) Method 4 is what I did (also trying to beat the crap out of it with method 2 in between tightening), until I could tell it was deforming the ball joint bolt, and slightly messed up the nut as well.. I suppose I'll order a new ball joint since the only way to remove this one seems to involve destroying it.. I appreciate the tips, I'm trying to learn to work on my own vehicles finally and this issue is so brutal I felt like giving up on it all completely :/

@thronewalker1153

Жыл бұрын

@@Trildin that’s how it was with me. Just stick with it.

I have the ball joint remover and its not working

What if the ball joint is detached from the control arm and stuck. I’ve tried a clamp and can’t get it out

@4DIYers

10 ай бұрын

If you’re not keeping the ball joint, try applying some heat.

Nice video. I didn't get the difference between option 1 and 3.

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The difference is the tuning/pickle fork didn't work so I used a hammer instead, hitting it on the threaded portion.

This truck looks like it's whole life was driving through shallow salt water!

Something about how to separate ball joints from other suspension parts besides thecsteering knuckle, would be useful. Ie from control arms, stabiliser bar (drop links). Can't find any really good video on that 😭

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

The same principle applies.

Nice video on replacing tie rods. Where is the ball joint removal?

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

Ball joints and tie rods have a similar taper, the same methods can be applied.

So 2 of the methods are the same? Tuning fork used twice

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

Which methods are the same? The tuning fork was successfully used once in the methods. If you're referring to the other time where it was used on the tie rod, I hit the threads of the stud with a hammer instead as the tuning fork wasn't able to get a good bite on the joint.

@garyvangorder2169

3 жыл бұрын

@@4DIYers understood

I’ve tried all of these except the last one... might be time to bust out a torch.

Really need to get myself one of the non damage splitters, end up smashing a fork into it in a rage and ruining everything😂😂

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

You got a literal LOL there haha. I can relate when something doesn't go as it should.

@al_burg_slimthawaterwalker8571

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve done this many times 😂

Ensure you use a B sharp tuning fork.

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

I can still hear the ringing lol.

The hammer worked at treat, the fork wasn't doing it. Thanks

@4DIYers

9 ай бұрын

Glad it helped!

Method 5: Angle grinder

What about 5 Different ways.............. C clamp

@4DIYers

4 жыл бұрын

Great tips, I haven't used either but they are certainly options too!

@singhsarabjit

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Please explain

@ufo-bro532

3 жыл бұрын

@@singhsarabjit kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWuCya6GZNevqto.html

Hydraulic press

1 and 3 are the exact same thing

@4DIYers

Ай бұрын

They are not. While a pickle fork was used, it wasn't working in method 1. So instead I hit the threaded stud with a hammer.

I l ike to cuss out the engineers who thought pressing-in a ball joint is the best way to mount them. Why not good-old bolt on, bolt off? That conical shape just gets pounded in over the years, then you add rust and heat and it's near impossible to remove.

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

The taper is strong and it's accurate every time it's connected/disconnected. A similar taper is used in machining equipment too for the exact same reasons.

I'm the same ie NONE of these methods worked...I notice you don't answer!

@4DIYers

Жыл бұрын

I try to answer people's questions, however I don't always get to every single one due to the high volume. Have you tried applying a good quality penetrating oil around the taper, then let it sit overnight. Another option would be using a pickle fork, push it in a far as possible, then hit the threaded part with a hammer.

Yeah nah I'm trying to remove the ball joint from my rear lca don't need to reuse it as I have the replacement to go in have literally spent 4 hours prying and hammering the shit out of it with the but completely loose but the bolt has not budged and the ball joint itself has sort of just started coming apart she's stuffed

That's a track rod end not a control arm ball joint

@4DIYers

6 ай бұрын

Correct and that was mentioned in the video. It still used the same principle and methods to remove.

@kevinhancock4064

6 ай бұрын

@@4DIYers I got u I watched most so likely missed it lol

1:59 :-)

you can use hammer but you shouldn't. there is a right way and a wrong way, hammer damages things. sadly this is how a lot of "professionals" do things.

@hk07666

3 жыл бұрын

That's for people that live in the rust belt. There's no other way to break the rust free.

wow thats one seriosuly rusty car

@4DIYers

4 ай бұрын

Welcome to Canada, where excessive salt is used and most of the vehicles look like this.

looks like a tie rod

@4DIYers

2 жыл бұрын

Still has a tamper and it's the same principle.

Ive tried all these methods it still wont budge even the splitter wont shift it

@Daplatapuss

5 жыл бұрын

strake750 try some heat

@JuanRivera-ff6fd

4 жыл бұрын

Be aware that some ball joints have c clips that prevent them from traveling out. You need to remove them.

this wasnt even close to what i was looking for, i need to get a lower ball joint out,

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

You need to press out a ball joint from a control arm? This video is for breaking the taper free.

@EmoFox9

5 жыл бұрын

@@4DIYers Yeah. that wasnt made that clear in your title.

@4DIYers

5 жыл бұрын

That's a different topic, you would be searching for something along the lines of "how to remove a pressed in ball joint". I don't have a specific video for that as of yet, but I did do this on a Ford Ranger and it would be a similar process kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqqgpsGfcrCuh5M.html

Method 1 and 3 are the same😂😂

@4DIYers

3 жыл бұрын

They're not if you listened to the dialogue, it was explained in the video.

NONE OF THESE WAYS WORK IN A TIGHT SPACE....