I understand the stats behind this, but there’s something to be said about the beauty of the midrange game too. Takes less effort than getting to the hoop and also develops your touch and shooting form. You become more of a threat all over the floor.

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Such a clean shot, and endless different ways to get into it. I wish that the midrange was worth 2.5 points so it would become valuable.

@sneakpeekla

Жыл бұрын

@@CoachFrikki I’m with you on that. It’s even more useless in pick up games that are 1s and 2s. Still, I love the middie. Sorry young boys lol

@apeinto5637

Жыл бұрын

I think there's no contest in saying that the midrange has utility. It's just that, if you're not proficient enough with layups and 3s to be above average efficiency, maybe you should deprioritize training the mid range for now and focus on getting efficient. Yes?

@lukes00

Жыл бұрын

If im the coach and my players are consistently taking mid ranges im probably not too happy

@sumlight13

Жыл бұрын

@@lukes00 what if they are efficient?

I think having a midrange really makes you more unpredictable as a player and it's really hard to guard if you know how to use it even if it's not as efficient as a 3 I still think it should be used

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

No doubt that the middy is unpredictable. The question is: Is it a good shot if you're only making it 35% of the time?

@zyce1

Жыл бұрын

@@CoachFrikki no, but for people who work on it and really know how to use it the middy is a good shot I think that getting a good middy really helps you step your game up

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

@@zyce1 What about the players who work on it and shoot it 35% - still a good shot? How low would that percentage have to be for you to start considering it a bad shot?

@zyce1

Жыл бұрын

@@CoachFrikki if you're shooting it at 35% then you're definitely not using it as well as you could be but 35% is more than enough for it to be considered a bad shot it's a good shot for people that use it well and work on it

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

@@zyce1 So the best players in the best leagues in Europe are neither using it well nor working on it?

Statistically the midrange isn’t as important, but being a legitimate threat there helps your other shots too. They’re gonna sag off more while you’re behind the arc and not just bail to the bucket every time you drive. Something to be said about keeping a defender truly on his toes

@jmgonzales7701

11 ай бұрын

I personally think that midrangers are good by the elbow area, i don't think people should take long 2's very much thou. and I think Midrange has intangible values or something that is seen in stats as much. Its has good psychological effect on defenders, it will keep them guessing what you will do plus it will open up to closer shots. And it takes less effort so you wont be as gassed.

Outside of six feet, it matters more how open you are than the distance from the hoop. So, if you have an open middie, you should take it, unless a 3 would also be uncontested. If your team takes and makes a lot of 3s, this should open up more open middies

Love that you're uploading more and giving us tips. Keep it up! ❣

I think it's tricky because the current stats that we see for layups and threes don't exist in a middy-free vacuum. They reflect the current mindset of the occasional mid jumper (i.e. the defense is calibrating the middy as an option that they need to guard against). If the defense knows that literally zero mid-range shots will be taken, they will probably guard differently... and maybe it's possible the layup PPP would go down slightly. Just playing devil's advocate here.

@Thatboygtmike

Жыл бұрын

agreed. I feel the stats sound good without actual context. Once context is added have to adjust the ideology a little

@AhmadPhilips

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Exactly what I was thinking!

@kelvinrojas215

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this. Stats don't tell the full story. There's a reason why 3 point specialists don't really score in abundance. Even the best shooters like Steph and Kay take their fair share of middles. Also lets keep in mind that middles tend to be contested shots alot of the times and off the dribble which can decrease their efficiency. But a wide open middie by a great shooter is money time. Not saying that its better than threes or layups but the ability to shoot it makes you a more dynamic scorer.

@victorpower20

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

I have found that the shot that becomes most open for me is the mid range. Especially when you have the ability to get defenders to bite on a glance at the rim from behind the arc. Hunting the midrange is where you begin to get problems because it congests the court and closes driving and cutting lanes. There are also situations where the midrange may be the most efficient shot like against a drop coverage or a DHO. I also gain the most confidence from making midrange shots in game, that’s a factor I think that could be overlooked in this video. Every player has different confidence boosters and for some that’s a midrange, while for others that could be getting to the rim or knocking down 3’s.

I've heard all of the "pro mid range" arguments. But IMO they don't stack up against the staggering efficiency numbers like the ones at 2:03. The top pro leagues in Europe are shooting only around 36% from midrange. I'd love to hear your thoughts - should we be shooting the midrange at all? In which situations and why?

@captainkrillz

Жыл бұрын

The numbers don't lie but just like most occurrences the numbers don't tell the whole story. I believe the reason the lay up numbers are they way they are is because of the midrange. Even in the clip in the vid at the open gym in NYC that crossover hesi only works because there's a possibility of a jump shot. If I know after you leave the 3pt line all you're going to do is attack all the way to the rim u less you're athletically inclines all your layups are going to be super tough. I just believe the shit selection has to be better Jalen Brunson and Kawhi do a good job of using it at the right time

@QankoIvanov

Жыл бұрын

Yes mid range is very important because some teams are going to make you shoot mid range shots, you can't get going with straight away threes easily, you need close shots, and sometimes layups aren't posibble, you will be able to use the mismatch better as a bigger guy, whether it is a 1-2 dribble pullup or back to the basket from the elbow/midpost. To put it short mid range gives you more flexibility and certainty, and mid range is a crazy amount of space on the floor. You can't just keep away from it like that.

@nhn8248

Жыл бұрын

That shot is open so much more of the time than people believe but when people decide to step back to the three it honestly makes it easier to contest speaking from experience shoot it where it’s open imo if your team has bad spacing then idk though because two people will probably contest your shot

@vietdungo8571

Жыл бұрын

i mean we should be a versatile player. if when we can drive in then we drive. when we can't we pull up if open then 3.

@leopoldone2664

Жыл бұрын

@Coach Frikki you are not the first to bring up this topic. You probably already know the philosophy of playing that coach Mike d'Antoni used with his rockets, having harden generating all the offense and going either for a layup or a lob to capela, or a kickout for the catch and shooters in the corners. And you already know how it ended, even if it was statistically the best offense in history of basketball as far as ppp.

Wow… these are the most unique and educational videos for players trying to improve skill! Keep up the good work!

Loving the consistent uploads :)

Excellent Video coach frikki :) thank you (a lot)

This is a great video keep spreading awareness

Very interesting stats coach, thank you!.

Damnn u took my suggestion, Great vid!

love the vids has taught me alot 🙂

Great video as always

You killed it with the Gravity Falls music in the background🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

I watched around 3 hours of your film today, i really like the way you make your videos. remember the name tom when i get high in basketball

Hey coach love the videos

Dang I love this topic. Also what about psychological momentum. Would shooting 33% from 3 keep you psychologically positive or 41% from mid range. It’s tougher to keep a good mindset when missing more.

Great video thanks

I’m a regular LA fitness hooper😂. The middy is definitely needed. It’s easier to play team ball with just layup and threes but when the defense locks in, you have to be able to break your man down and hit that middy. All the bucket getters I see there use the middy when needed.

@jmgonzales7701

11 ай бұрын

I personally think that midrangers are good by the elbow area, i don't think people should take long 2's very much thou. and I think Midrange has intangible values or something that is seen in stats as much. Its has good psychological effect on defenders, it will keep them guessing what you will do plus it will open up to closer shots. And it takes less effort so you wont be as gassed.

I love the mid-range shots, but is true that the 3-point era is here and it doesn’t look like is slowing down, the way the game plays changes, I would recommend the two foot floater or a one legged runner to make for the mid-range shot, they are more fast and unpredictable, good finishes to have in the bag, but you can always take the mid range shot if the opportunity comes

It really depends on the level in which you are playing at. In my experiences pick-up is really a game of 1v1 with a full team on the court, so at that level transitional moves + jumpers is more than enough. However college,professional, and even high school the game slows down, so post play and mid range comes into play because the defense has time to set up. With all that being said my advice: focus on building a compete game (mid range, 3s, post moves, and transitional moves) so that case when the opportunity comes you know what to do! As the saying goes in California: “If you stay ready, you won’t ever have to get ready!” 🏀💪🏾

@MonkeyDZak

Жыл бұрын

W

@jmgonzales7701

11 ай бұрын

yeah pick up games are 1v1 in full court lol

I think the midrange make you a scoring menace but i understand, we should more work on our finishing ability and on our 3point shooting.

I think mid-range shots are great if you're at the free throw line. Sheer practice could make most free throw line-ish shots to enter a higher efficiency like 60% so I think that's when it competes up to equal PPP and value as 3s.

@jmgonzales7701

11 ай бұрын

I personally think that midrangers are good by the elbow area, i don't think people should take long 2's very much thou. and I think Midrange has intangible values or something that is seen in stats as much. Its has good psychological effect on defenders, it will keep them guessing what you will do plus it will open up to closer shots. And it takes less effort so you wont be as gassed.

@jojoprocess2820

5 ай бұрын

Nobody shoots that high on midrange shots. Even on wide open shots you're probably not gonna shoot 60% unless youre the elite of the elite. Theres a reason they've become all but extinct. You're all missing the point. Midrange shots are so incredibly inefficient even if you're absolutely elite at them. Durant is the only elite player who takes the majority of his shots from midrange and hes only able to do this because hes absurdly efficient on layups and 3s (87.5% and 47.5%) to make up for his midrange shots. If youre not the best or one of the best players on your team then you probably shouldnt be taking any midrange shots unless you're completely wide open or you have to for time reasons.

Wish there was instruction like this available as a youth. Better late than never I guess. 😎 Awesome job‼️

The thing about the mid-range is that its the most reliable shot to actually get off. Shooting a contested turn-around fade away three pointer with a defender hounding you is a very difficult shot to make; but those who master the mid range game can make that shot in clutch moments consistently. Same goes for lay up; if you have your defender 1v1 its a very efficient shot, but with an effective rim protector or help defenders on the enemy team, there are many situations in which its just too difficult to take the shot without risking a turn over/block. The middy however is rarely going to draw help defense, and way easier to shoot off the dribble. Therefore, while it is the 3rd most efficient shot, it is balanced by often times being the only actual reliable shot available. This is why so many game-winning shots are middy jumpers (see Kawhi in the playoffs, etc.) While it is inefficient when playing within perfectly executed team basketball, if you are on the floor with several other players who are below average scorers as your team mates, your defender is playing up on you very aggressively on the three point line, and there are keyed-in rim protectors and help defenders playing good team D on drives to the hoop -- then the mid range jumper is simply the only reliable shot you likely have left to put points on the board in crunch time situations. This is why its such an essential shot to master, and why the two most cold-blooded shooters in the history of basketball, Kobe and MJ, used the turn-around fade middy as their bread and butter. When you're the go to scorer, your team gets you an iso, and the enemy team is helping hard on drives, it is in fact your best shot in many situations--and yet many people have taken its 'inefficiency' to mean its actually a bad shot despite it being one of the most crucial end of game, playoff situation shots in basketball.

@eonbeats

Жыл бұрын

To summarize: in a game situation where you have several good shooters on the floor and good ball movement, always look for more efficient shots like catch and shoot 3's, post up isos around the rim, and cutting layups. But when you are in crunch moments of the game and only one or two players on the floor are the ones entrusted to take the critical shots, the mid range does in fact become the best shot available much of the time. Modern players like Kevin Durant, Jaylen Brown, and Kawhi Leonard exemplify this with their gameplay, often times going for more efficient 3's and drives when available, but reverting back to the mid range in crucial ISO crunch time moments. As a result players like them tend to have a balance of all 3 shots over the course of a competitive game.

Another great vidéo

I think it’s still valuable but you should know when to shoot it. If you are open with less time on the shot clock or clutch situations where you don’t need to think about later possessions because ppp is more but fg% for midrange is bit higher in the nba. So game winning shot could be more midrange.

thank you coach for all of these instructive videos, i hope you come up with more videos that i can learn from! Thanks again! Do you think maybe you can make some videos about rebounding and blocking shots. I usually stay around the post and that would really be helpful for me, thanks again!

@mikeesteves8427

Жыл бұрын

from my anecdotal experience if were talking abt defending the rim and rebounding then positioning and being strong enough is most important besides just being tall and a vertical presence. im pretty skinny myself so i get pushed around by fat dudes on boxouts but i can often make up for it with verticality, however you can never get a great contest if youre not in the right position early enough. blocking shots should imo moreso be a last resort if you messed up or got beat youll be prone to jumping early and foulbaiting if youre too block happy. you wanna be patient and count the steps of the offensive player and try to understand the rythm/pace of their steps so you can time your contest/block properly. good contest are generally more consistenst if you can get the hang of it but blocks are amazing for erasing mistakes, be that as a help defender or primary defender

@POP-xb8iz

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeesteves8427 thank you so much! Yeah im very skinny too so I can relate to you.

@mikeesteves8427

Жыл бұрын

@@POP-xb8iz if youre just in the right spot early enough you can often successfully defend even players that are much stronger than you, provided youre outside of the no charge zone but in general i would recommend eating more and hitting the gym. Idk if you do this but i would recommend picking/helping early enough unless your crazy long or got crazy hops theres no real point to just sitting under the rim when primary defenders get beat. how youre helping/rotating obviously heavily depends on what kind of defense youre running (zone/man) but in general if an opponents ball handler tries to drive into the paint youd do good to literally just stand in their way instead of waiting for them to get ot the rim. by standing in their way i mean recognizing what their lane of attack is and plugging that hole. for example if someones driving baseline and they got past the primary defender and youre currently in the paint i would come out to the edge of the paint towards the ballhandler and close off the baseline drive. either they try to finish over you which generally isnt a good idea in this scenario since you can actually get a running start for the contest here or they go around you towards the middle where its very likely that other defenders can also interfere. Try to think about where offensive players are trying to get to and try to stand in their path instead of just running towards them, think about where you would hate to have someone stand on the specific angle of attack. That kinda thinking can get you a long way!

Back to basket turn around mid range shot is a great change of pace. Best 1v1 move of all time imo.

Every team I've watched win a championship had at least 1 or 2 people who can knock down the mid range at a solid enough level to keep the defense honest and actually be able to have counters. I feel like players who struggle with mid range tend to struggle once the scouting report and intensity is there. Even the Warriors go after players who can shoot mid range over defense to play the 3. Harrison, KD, Wiggins

@lain2236ad

Жыл бұрын

The 2016-2018 rockets would've been champions if not for the warriors (who themselves are a different brand of only 3s and lays), which would've flipped this on the head.

@Thatboygtmike

Жыл бұрын

@@lain2236ad lol true maybe your right.. but Chris Paul was one player who shot a lot of mid range as well

Do all counter move breakdown please😵‍💫❤️

Great vid. I wonder if there is more to it than the raw stats (like mid range shots contested more often, late shot clock, etc.) which might explain lower clip overall, but in the subset of clean looks the story might be different? Same argument for the other categories but I struggle to put a blanket “bad shot” overall to middies haha, love them a bit too much I guess

Do best tips to help you scan the court better

I just started learning how to hoop and this is my goal as well. 3&D&Layup, I think that's the most efficient use of my time with minimal time training. Aside from that, I'm just training basic dribbling techniques to be able to get to the hoop. Once I get proficient at 3, D and Layup, maybe I'll add a floater there somewhere to bail me out while attacking. What do you think. Can you also break this down not only per range but also per type of shot? Post up, Mid Range, Pull Up Mid Range, Floater, Open 3, Step Back 3, Offscreen 3, Layup, Dunk, and etc.

@MonkeyDZak

Жыл бұрын

Ik this is 3 weeks later but you should first develop your form and make it natural even while off the dribble. Then slowly practice your way into 3s

Hi Frikki, could you by any chance make a video, on how to become a better finisher, or drills to become a better finisher

Thanks coach

We still need some people who master in midrange to be a part of our team. Not only us but also our opponents know midrange is not the best choice according to the data. Therefore, we can imagine that our opponent will set their defense strategy to make us to do midrange. That will be sad if we can't punish their defense strategy just because nobody can do midrange on the team.

@scottyb808

Жыл бұрын

Europe's 3 point line is 2 FEET closer, and their lanes are wider; making 3 point easier and the middy more contested because you can camp in the lane in FIBA The NBA's exact measurements are 23 feet-9 inches at the top of the arc and 22 feet at the corner, while FIBA measures 22 feet-1.75 inches at the top of the arc and 21 feet-7.75 inches at the corner There's also an age appropriate element to it as youth players watch these videos and think they should chuck 3s before developing their fundamentals

@simontomasson2750

Жыл бұрын

You're offense should be able to generate high quality looks (not mid range) even though that is what the defense wants you to take, there is a reason the defense would want you to take those shots. Maybe your not running the pick and roll very well or your plays or actions aren't good enough or maybe nobody can get past their defender and that is why you have to SETTLE for a mid range jumper.

As a young hooper My three points makes percentage probably is just around 10% (not enough power) while I'm pretty sure I can generate around 20% of mid ranges at least, especially if they're both contested the mid-ranges wins by a lot when I try to do step-backs (not enough power)

@simontomasson2750

Жыл бұрын

You need to work on your 3 point shot

@Thatboygtmike

Жыл бұрын

keep workig bro get those 3s to 40% and middies to around 50%.. you can do it

Well Coach Frikki definitely got the whole basketball world talking about this topic. This is the hot take of the year! 😂

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

Why is it a hot take to not shoot the most inefficient shot in the game? Look at the numbers at 2:00 - 2:10. You're basically losing 0.2-0.3 points for every middy you take compared to a three.

@dtateiii

Жыл бұрын

@@CoachFrikkiIt’s a hot take because most people have never considered the hard numbers as you have. Most believe the myth that the midrange is a good thing to have in your game. You can see in the comments how many people are debating and fighting it even when presented with the facts. They don’t want to accept that you’re right. It’s a bad shot. That’s why I called it a hot take.

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

​@@dtateiii Yeah it's the weirdest thing that less than 5% of hoopers/trainers/coaches seem to share this opinion w/ the evidence right in front on them. Got any thoughts on why?

@dtateiii

Жыл бұрын

@@CoachFrikki I think it’s just one of those myths that people can’t let go of such as never letting the ball touch your palm when shooting or dribbling or squaring up your feet to shoot. People will always repeat the advice that it’s good to be a three level scorer even though the midrange is a bad shot. They ignore the reality and stick with the myth.

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

@@dtateiii I feel like most hoopers/coaches in 2023 accept the turn and palm shooting, even though those things can't be proven w/ data. The midrange delusion is on a whole different level I feel like. I think trainers play a big part in this. They make their living off selling players midrange moves. I think a lot of them actually know the advanced stats but but changing their mind publicly now would make their old stuff obsolete so they won't do it. Love to see how the discourse develops in the next few years. The NBA scoring explosion has to be opening people's eyes. Warriors scoring 55 points in the 1st quarter the other day - without shooting a single midrange of course!

It's an interesting question. I was pro "Morey Basketball" during the Rockets era and was all behind them against the Warriors but this sad loss made me open my eyes. 3s n layups are clearly the most efficient way to score but i truly think that every solid offense needs a "mid range maestro" to have enough wide open 3s n layups cause this shoots are well defended most of the time cause defensive gameplan are essentially about it. Mid Range is where offensive beast can put the pressure on defense cause too many way to score for a complete scorer + no one wants to help in mid range when every teammates are behind the line or in the dunker spot + if the defender puts too much pressure, you can still drive to the basket + good mid range shoots give good offensive rebounds position. Finally, i would say that I change my mind and you can't win with mid range as the first team option to score but you needs a mid range maestro to win (n i consider long finishes as mid range too)

Do a video on best moves for shooters.

That's very good

Hey coach if the mid range is so bad then should players change the way we shoot the ball? Traditionally players bring the ball above their head before releasing so they can shoot over their defender which is how all the best mid range shooters shoot but all the best 3 point shooters shoot one motion and usually with a lower set point (Curry, Dame, Trae). Should we all start mimicking the way guards like dame shoot (below their hairline) instead of the way wings like KD and Bron shoot (above their heads)?

You have your spot on the court that you’re most confident in. Best shot is being in those positions and shooting at those spots when you’re open. Look to attack the paint then mid range then 3 pointer for me usually

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

You should shoot from the spots you score the most points for. That's what the game is about. Scoring more points than the opponent.

I think that even though it’s not efficient, sometimes if you beat your man, and the help D / shot blocker is sagging and not fully moving off his man. An open pullup middy feels like the best shot rather than driving into a shot blocker. However midrange fades and step back I think are shots that should never be taken.

@simontomasson2750

Жыл бұрын

Get better at passing

@bofi1280

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with midrange fades?

@simontomasson2750

Жыл бұрын

@@bofi1280 low efficiency

@1:13 do you see how tight Jordan is palming the ball? He clamped the ball so tight you can see the indents on the ball from his fingers.. I don't think people knew Jordan had big hands too.

Request video for how to protect ball and counter in full court press.

A big advantage of having a midrange is that it opens up more threes and drives when people know you can shoot it. You should develop the midrange so your other options open up and are easier

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

Genuinely curious how shooting midranges opens up threes. No gap help or rim protection help is closing out on a midrange shot.

@mikeesteves8427

Жыл бұрын

​@@CoachFrikki they will if youre hitting it

You can make a video of the short steps in dribbling?

Hey love this channel but I was wondering if this still applies to high school players? Especially if you can’t shoot the three ball yet.

I think midrange game is really good for undersized players who struggles scoring under the rim. For example: on the one hand You have Kyrie Irving - layup beast, hard to block him, he doesn’t use midrange shots. On the other hand you got Jalen Brunson - a guy who hoops rarely under the rim preferring 3 - 10 soft touch, deadly midrange and 3.

steve kerr once said, "in order to become a good three point shooter you must first become a great shooter" so i believe taking mid range jumpers can increase the focus and the touch so you shoot better in the three point line

Coach could u make a video on release/follow through. Cus my shot although im a right handed shooter, during my release my shots kinda curves and goes left along with my arm. And I've been tryna fix it for a while.

I think its clear that midrange should generally not be the first option. However, the midrange is vital as a bailout shot- if your play falls apart and you need a bucket its a lot easier to get a decent middy off than a layup. This is especially important in the playoffs, where players like Jimmy Butler, Kawhi or KD can take over with the midrange by themselves. Theres also the fact that the threat of a midrange make it easier to attack the rim. Finally, while midrange shots are definitely not as efficient, I imagine that 3 point and layup efficiency metrics get a boost from the fact that you usually take those shots in the flow of the offense, which means better looks. The midrange is reserved as a last resort, which might make its numbers worse.

i just dont believe in completely eliminating the midrange shot- it just shouldnt be your main offensive go-to. It makes you unguardable, you can get a shot anywhere on the court. Lets end of the shot clock you should at least have some proficiency in scoring at *all 3 levels*

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

What about shooting a 35-40% two point shot makes you unguardable? End of shot clock is a fair argument though.

@Fraudkovic

Жыл бұрын

​@@CoachFrikki if they play drop coverage you have to go for the middy . It's more efficient to take the layup but it's also a harder shot to generate out of nothing and especially when they know it's coming . If they know you can only take 3s or layups it's much easier to guard .

@AnObliviousCelticsFan

Жыл бұрын

​@@Fraudkovictbh I would just play like Harden but work from the mid-range.

@ozarka1110

Жыл бұрын

I’m a regular LA fitness hooper😂. The middy is definitely needed. It’s easier to play team ball with just layup and threes but when the defense locks in, you have to be able to break your man down and hit that middy. All the bucket getters I see there use the middy when needed.

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

@@Fraudkovic You can pop for threes against drop. Or roll quickly and get a layup out of the 2v1 situation at the rim.

Wonderful Video Coach frikki it has been very helpful for my game but I was wondering if you can make a video about something related to Lamelo I have watched the other ones but maybe create a new one if you can

Can you make a video on how to do workouts by yourself?

The midrange game will return as king 👑

Hi Coach, which is more efficient.... a contested layup or a wide open mid-range shot?

@khaipinaulak485

Жыл бұрын

at the very least you need to show you can shoot it, so that they will guard you up other wise you are like west brick on the three. No one will respect you.

@chrisbbacon21

Жыл бұрын

Wide open if you can shoot

@benji-sama8462

Жыл бұрын

I would say, no matter what shot you have (at least close to or inside the 3pts line, not a logo shot), if its wide open, its better to take it, of course, it depends on your skills but I think we should train to, at least, make every kind of shot in a wide open situation to not have a big weakness that the defense can exploit

@CoachFrikki

Жыл бұрын

Depends on how contested the layup is and who is shooting it.

@Thatboygtmike

Жыл бұрын

@@CoachFrikki if one never shoots a middy wouldn't that leave lay ups more contested? Are there stats on floaters/runners compared to mid range ?

Many of the greatest tough shot makers/closers did their work from midrange (Kobe, kd, mj, etc.) it isn’t as important for the first 45 mins of the game but in those last few mins when a 3 is too risky and the paint is too clogged to take a lay, the midrange is the best option

Hey coach I think middies should be used differently for players of varying sizes *For smaller players:* like myself (6'2) they should be used the same way curry uses them. Used rarely for variety, space creation, and when the lane is too clogged. Driving is still more valuable bc we draw fouls more easily but punishing defenders when they overcommit is good *For taller players:* if they have that shooting touch they should absolutely spam it against smaller players or on drives. The closer to the paint the better. Due to their height, they can more often than not force other players to overcommit leading to fouls. Kevin Durant does this and it opens up the lane for his drive but also pulls the taller defenders away from the paint which creates opportunities for other players

I have a question is that I don't know where to go when I get waved off. I'm a PF btw. Feels like I cannot go in nor out of the lane line

Mid range is like controlling the center in chess… Especially when you know who you’re playing with and what they like to do… bringing the attention to me from knocking down a couple good shots opens the entire court up to allow everyone to get some good shots as well

since threes and lays are more efficient most of the time the defense will left you a open midrange look once you beat your first defender or come off screens. and if you just take those shots its gonna put a ton of pressure on the close out defense and it forces the big to make a decision. Plus as the level gets higher them dudes on the perimeter not letting me breath a 6foot8 monster sitting in the paint course im taking a midrange

@CoachFrikki

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The question I have for you is: After you get by your defender and a tall defender stands under the basket: 1) When do you pull up for a middy? 2) When do you make the pass to the wide open man since you made 2 players commit to you?

this assumes that all the shots are being taken in the same conditions. obviously most people are trying to take a shot close to the rim or take an open 3, but when those 2 options are being covered having a midrange shot is valuable. is a midrange shot in that case worse than taking a contested three or walled off drive?

coach can you make videos about how to run fast with dribble

i agree

One of the best things when shooting around is instead of chucking the shots and trying to make something in a row, try to not miss twice in a row. This would make you less of a streaky shooter and more of a efficient one

It's simple the players I do workouts with I tell them to master all 3level, so you can always have a counter too how the defense is ,the game is being ruin by that style of play the beauty of the game is going away causing players not to master their in between game , post moves etc and I watch alot of team lose games shooting too much 3's when the mid range would've won them the game. That why I love watching players like kyrie that can score in all 3 levels and curry that can also kill you in the mid range. Keep up the good work coach love the videos

@CoachFrikki

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You say "master all 3 levels". But the problem is defining midrange mastery. Guys like Kobe and Derozan only shoot 42% from midrange yet most will call them middy masters. It's sadly just an inherently inefficient shot. Time should be spent working on other things like getting all the way to the rim or making the killer pass if you force help.

@Mjay95498

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@Coach Frikki Time should be spent working on all of them every part of your game, getting to the rim, mid range, 3pointers, post moves, and also the killer pass. I don't know as far as defining midrange master ,to me, it's can you consistently hit those midrange if that's what the defense is giving you if you can then the defense will have to make an adjustment ,and their will always be situation where that 42% will win you the game, it all depends on how the game is going and how the defense is playing against you and your team

2:22 I would like to clear something up from the video, when Coach Frikki says don't practice "The least efficient shot in the game", that's not what you should be doing. It's not 'the game' but rather 'your game' because you might be making more middies than 3 pnts but you're 3 pt in 1 season is higher than your middy, this doesn't make it any better. It all comes down to shooting% from different areas and which you are at best so practicing your strengths short term makes you more deadly than short term practicing weaknesses. There is going to me the most defense in the paint so it is harder if you're not used to going against tough defenders and so on. Anyways that was confusing, my point is take and make the shots that you are comfortable making and don't take stupid shots. If you ever feel like you're taking a shot you shouldn't be, kick out.

What if my 3point shot is bad and I can only shoot midrange?

I believe you should take whatever shot is open. If you can't hit an open 15 footer, yeah, don't take it. But if you're always open from 15 feet, work on making that shot.

Can you make a guide to 3 point shooting

This is why Zion Williamson is my favorite player. He's a forward who can shoot but instead plays with his brain and uses his incredible skill and strength in the most efficient way..95% at the rim, other 5% the occasional wide open three.

Can you do a video on how the best players get downhill

can you do avid about how to move throughout the court without the ball pls

can you pls do a video about counter moves

If you don’t have a middy and a floater you’ll struggle. Even the best athletes can’t always get to the rim. Especially for P&R play you need that in between shot.

@CoachFrikki

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James Harden doesn't struggle. 29 PPG for the last 7 years - shooting 53% from two, 36% from three while shooting less than one midrange per game. If you can't get to the rim you should kick out for a 1.05 PPP shot. Rather than selfishly taking that 0.80 PPP shot.

The reason why the midrange stats are lower is because it's usually more contested than a 3 pt, but theoretically, the closer you are to the basket the better your chance is

@CoachFrikki

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That is one reason. But the main reason is the high risk (far away) low reward (2 points).

I see where your going with this as 3’s and layups are efficient shots but that doesn’t mean a mid-range is a bad shot. For example, if one person catches at the high post, then the most efficient shot would be a mid-rang jumper since your already there and don’t have to make an extra dribble. Also a mid range is almost impossible the guard knowing that the defender thinks your attacking the rim.

@CoachFrikki

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Is it impossible to guard if you miss it 65% of the time?

@videogaming7175

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​@@CoachFrikki he means that defenders don't contest it so good ,the player himself miss it by his own

@CoachFrikki

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@@videogaming7175 Yeah chucking up a midrange ain't the problem. Making it is the problem.

@videogaming7175

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@@CoachFrikki yea you are right but there are some players who shoot them well ,for example derozan,cp3 just to name a few

@CoachFrikki

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​@@videogaming7175 Derozan is a career 42% midrange shooter. Would you consider that shooting it well?

Even tho stats say 3’s and layups it doesn’t account for game plans and adjustments.. everyone is aware of these things but you will not always be able to get to the 3 or to the rim you need to have everything!

I don’ say that shooting mids is useless cuz if you’re open you need to nock em down

These are NBA stats i guess, as an amateur, I'd be interested in knowing how overall / 3s / 2s PPP changes with level.

The mid range opens up those other shots though(3s and lay ups). Can’t just eliminate it. Makes it much easier to guard if I know you either just shoot 3s or attack rim.

@CoachFrikki

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"Much easier to guard". How would you guard a player that can only shoot threes and layups? There are NBA coaching teams listening - ready to pay you a lot of money to find out how.

@danieliruobe3284

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You lying lol, The whole League couldn't guard Prime Harden and still can't guard Curry.

@NewEarthSon

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@@CoachFrikki Thats easy... Force him into shooting midrange shots!😁😂🤑😎

The mid-range shot is important because if you can’t knock down not even a single one, defenders will sag on you and you won’t get a open layup, unless we are talking about a 7 footer who can just post the sagging defender

@ollythegoat

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Also, all the best scorers all-time have a good mid-range shot, Kobe, KD, MJ, Melo, all of them mastered the mid-range shot. And if we are talking this season, Jokic and Embiid are monster mid-range shooters, JT can also knock down them, Luka can do it too. The only guy I remember that didn’t shoot a single mid-range shot and still had a lot of points was prime Harden.

@CoachFrikki

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You have a wide open three pointer if they sag on you.

@ollythegoat

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@@CoachFrikki I was talking about younger hoopers, they have to get a strong mid-range first, so that they can move to the 3pt line without ruining their form. Now if we are talking about the pros it’s still very important to have a mid-range shot, the problem is most of the mid-range shooters are ball hogs. Devin Booker is a great example, he’s not a ball hog at all and can shoot 49.4% from the middy.

@CoachFrikki

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@@ollythegoat Agreed w/ the kid developing part. Shooting w/ small balls on lower baskets and from short range is key to develop long terms shooters. But your last point, even when you pick the best of the best like D-Book, and then pick his greatest midrange shooting season...you still cannot even crack the 50% mark. Kind of making my point here. Just take a look at the Euroleague stat at 2:09. Those are the 18 best European clubs playing. And they shoot 37.5% from midrange on average. 98% of casual hoopers out there will shoot lower than that against good defense.

Thinking Basketball made a very interesting video on the subject called "Is the midrange shot dead ?"

@CoachFrikki

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Yeah I've watched it a couple of times.

what boosts the efficiency of 3pt shots is the existence of other shots, if suddenly no one were shooting mid ranges, why would anyone guard anything besides the 3pt and the paint? that would definitely affect the efficiency on layups and 3pt shots, the odd man out is what balances everything else, that's why players who can score on all three levels are one notch above everyone else.

Coach can you make a video about the 2-1-2 defense and how to beat it?

@CoachFrikki

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How to beat zones in general: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aYiapduant3Jgdo.html

@flamethrower8080

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@@CoachFrikki thanks coach

this all depends on the player though because me personally im a better mid range shooter than most people in my school i think i could maybe reach and say province but i cant get enough power to shoot 3s consistently so i just shoot middies mainly and am still top 5 at my school

I understand this but when teams pack in the paint so you cant get lay ups shout to the Lakers making it hard for Ja. You need those floters and mid range that you can go to. I think this is the diffence bwtween JA and Fox. Fox has developed his mid range game and even threes so he can score at all three levels.

Everyone who was ever though of as a great scorer in the playoffs AS WELL as the regular season were always nasty in the midrange and that might never change. You need to score however you can sometimes, but it seems as if teams of all levels will have less options to go to in the clutch years from now. Even them CP3 camp 1v1s look sort of boring.

One leg shot please @coach frikki

nash was so insanely efficient

KD, CP3, and Booker combined are shooting mid range shots at 68% something in this play-off. That’s also made possible by open floor by kick-out 3s.

@CoachFrikki

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They are shooting 52% from the midrange 10-22 ft in their first 2 games

@taquilo

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@@CoachFrikki I see. Still less efficient than 3s. Wow.

Gravity falls vibes

Your guy Byanymeansbasketball has lots of vids about the midrange speaking positively about it. Have u discussed this topic with him or do u think he's just making these midrange videos to satisfy his fans.

Matter fact... forget the data. How many great scorers in our lifetime NEVER shot middy except maybe Houston Harden and Curry (who still is able to make those and keep the defense honest) when the game gets tight it is a must. Come on Frikki what NBA team or any team you know won a chip without having someone to hit Middies? Even the warriors go after tall wings who can shoot middy when it is clutch time.