Stroking my chin with $147 in my bank account: “This is important information for me to know.”

@shaolinfox30

17 күн бұрын

I hate to speak truth, but you're going to have to stroke another part of your body on camera & on the internet for a long time in order to afford one of those. 😂😮🎉

@nachoakajrod

17 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m with you dawg

@wheelguns4wheelmen802

16 күн бұрын

Hey, you can get like seven Big Macs or maybe even a full tank of gas with that account balance.

@scarybro9002

16 күн бұрын

Bro I got 3 dollars.

@andrews.7754

16 күн бұрын

I about fell out of my chair when he said "35 to 45 thousand dollars"

The miracle of multiplying machineguns: you disassemble one machinegun and voilà you have two machineguns now.

@Trenaime

17 күн бұрын

Machine gun mitosis

@Bajirkus

17 күн бұрын

Finally, a real life application of the Banach-Tarski Paradox!

@anonym1984

17 күн бұрын

Gun-Jesus saith unto them, How many machineguns have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two trigger assemblies. And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass. And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties. And when he had taken the five machineguns and the two lowers, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the machineguns, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two trigger assemblies divided he among them all. And they did all shoot, and were satisfied. And they took up twelve baskets full of machineguns, and of trigger assemblies.

@kaboom4679

17 күн бұрын

Go forth and multiply !

@petewitt3385

17 күн бұрын

Taking off the machine gun trigger pack magically turns the upper reciever to sbr semiauto firearm. Sorcery, i say.

Schrodinger's' Machine gun, it's status depends on what benefits the ATF most.

@ToastytheG

17 күн бұрын

And what benefits them most is what brings ruin to the common man. Sweet!

@M4nusky

17 күн бұрын

Also a machinegun of Theseus!

@stevep7346

17 күн бұрын

No, it doesn't have to benefit them as long as it screws a citizen (or their dog).

@TheFanatical1

16 күн бұрын

The ATF is legally required to rule like this, as the parts themselves are plainly either statutorily required to be the legal firearm, or not. This situation exists because the BATF is forced to rule exactly this way by the GCA. Don't blame the ATF, either blame HK or the GCA.

@ToastytheG

16 күн бұрын

@TheFanatical1 Honk! Pretty sure it said shall not. Idk what that means because I have an IQ of 4, but some pretty smart folk tell me that "shall not" means "won't".

'Everybody ought to have a full-auto MP5. They're awesome!' -- my new favorite Ian quote

@heyselice

17 күн бұрын

It's so true

@RJ-wx3fh

17 күн бұрын

It'd be a hell of a tagline for a presidential campaign run

@jamespettit1792

17 күн бұрын

@@RJ-wx3fh a Full-auto MP5 in every pot.

@rpchan

17 күн бұрын

Ditto

@classicgameguides

17 күн бұрын

Especially if you're in Nakatomi Plaza... "Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho."

1 gun = 2 machineguns makes perfect sense

@FT099

17 күн бұрын

Murica

@robhunterart

17 күн бұрын

Murica…land of the TAXED AND CONTROLLED.

@DougsDiggers

17 күн бұрын

I wish

@Fragaut

16 күн бұрын

Welcome to America 🙃

@Juan_Doooh

10 күн бұрын

ATF math.

"If you think you understand quantum physics, you don't." It also applies to ATF regulations.

@MrZcar350

17 күн бұрын

Or law in general.

@_ArsNova

17 күн бұрын

Confused? Just remember: ATF once ruled that a shoelace is a machine gun.

@trioptimum9027

16 күн бұрын

To be fair: if guns were simple, Ian would have made fifty videos, he'd have finished describing all the important variations of "how guns work" ten years ago, and we wouldn't be here. I don't think it's actually possible for the ATF to do the things that Congress has told it to do in a fully logical, consistent way. Their bosses gave them six contradictory rules to enforce, and they're stuck. They haven't exactly done the best possible job of trying, either... but they haven't done the worst they could have done.

@TheFanatical1

16 күн бұрын

The ATF has to make decisions about this, and there really aren't good decisions they can make. They're statutorily required to rule on what constitutes a machine-gun, or what constitutes something that could be readily converted (or convert something into) a machine gun. Ruling which part of a gun is legally the machine gun is essentially arbitrary, but you have to do that because otherwise people will just dissassemble them and claim that no part constitutes a machine gun. The problem is that the trigger pack both isn't legally a machine gun and something that is used to otherwise convert a not-machine-gun into a machine gun. Obviously you run into some problems here because they've seemingly chosen the wrong part to consider the machine gun. I mean, they may be statutorily required to consider that part (the upper) a gun, but either way you have to make a decision about that. Gun owners are constantly trying funny business to get around the letter of the law rather than the spirit (see the absolute nonsense coming out of various places regarding totally-not-stocked-pistols), and the ATF is then forced to issue increasingly complicated rulings on what does and does not constitute an illegal firearm. The fact that you have to modify the legal machine gun rather than the legal semi-auto upper is perfectly reasonable: if you modify the legal thing to accept a legal part (the legal part being the legal trigger pack, which is not a machine gun) you have now created a unregistered machine gun. If you modify the legal machine gun you're not doing anything wrong, and you haven't modified the legal semi-auto upper (so you can't have made a machine gun) and when they fit together you've only got one gun, and it's the lower. Could you change all of this by thinking of the trigger pack as the legal firearm? Sure, but I'm 90% sure the definition of a receiver does realistically mean the trigger pack in this case. Yes, this is somewhat silly. Yes, they should change it for this specific example. No, that doesn't mean this is really a problem: blame HK for making a gun that doesn't play well with US law, don't blame the ATF for doing what they're required to do.

@_ArsNova

16 күн бұрын

@@TheFanatical1 It's the statute that's wrong. As Ian has discussed ad nauseam via pistol braces, the notion that a federal agency should be allowed to criminalize and decriminalize constitutionally protected items at will is absurd. Particularly when being afoul of said ruling means committing a felony offense. It also leads to ridiculous things being legally deemed "machine guns" that plainly are not, like shoelaces for instance.

I imagine 2/3rds of the ATF agents could not sort this out without a regs book and and two weeks reading it.

@iyatemu

14 күн бұрын

Wild assumption that they can read at all. It's been 250 years and they still can't grasp "shall not be infringed".

@iammelon7803

11 күн бұрын

I doubt they could sort it out after reading it for a freakin year straight.

The BATFE laws are more convoluted than anything Heckler and Koch have ever made 😂

@jameskazd9951

17 күн бұрын

which is saying something because they made the G11, and that thing is wild

@Zorglub1966

17 күн бұрын

French regulation : "Hold my glass of wine"

@EradWir

17 күн бұрын

German regulations hold my Beer. And for NO

@Neutronium57

17 күн бұрын

@@Zorglub1966 French regulation is simpler when it comes to semi auto weapons since they all fall in the same category (ofc there are exceptions but they're not the majority)

@Zorglub1966

17 күн бұрын

@@Neutronium57C'est pas faux!

I recently bought a transferable Mac-10 and went to an indoor range. The manager there said I needed a second tax stamp because it had a stock, saying it was an "SBR". He showed me his MP5 as an example, I pointed out that he had a registered trigger pack on a semi auto receiver and it was NOT the same thing as what I had. In his case, yes, the MP5's semi auto receiver needed to be SBR'd in the config they had it. He had to save face in front of his employees so could not admit he was wrong. A self proclaimed ATF "expert" that handled all of the paperwork at that FFL w/SOT gun store/range. I know the law can be confusing but like come on man.... lol great video though and one I will show him if he gives me trouble again.

@CarlosGunX

17 күн бұрын

The converted HK94 with the registered sear, can be a "one stamp gun", if on the ATF Form (1,3,4, or 5), the shortened HK94 is married to the sear. I own one myself in that configuration.

@ToastytheG

17 күн бұрын

Luxury beliefs. Luxury pastimes. Luxury BS. Shall not.

@tylerwilliams6022

17 күн бұрын

I pointed out that a hole in the wall pawn/gun shop had an SBR hanging on the wall. It was a PPS-43 pistol with its overfolding stock not welded or pinned. Store owner said he's an expert and it's not an SBR as long as you don't shoulder it. I'm sure we all have know this type of person and visited their shop. They can only stay open because they buy tools/items for pennies on the dollar. Not for their rusty $600 Mosin Nagants or $800 Glocks.

@jolynnland

11 күн бұрын

Once a machine gun, always a machine gun. Anything else you do to it irrelevant.

For some reason, "This is a gun and this is also a gun.", reminded me of the scene in "The Unit" where the blindfolded potential recruit builds more guns from the parts on the table than he was told would be possible.

I live in the UK and I'm poor as heck, there's zero chance I'm ever going to own an MP5, still found this video fascinating!

@causewaykayak

17 күн бұрын

And they expect us to volunteer for their armed forces. We have many debased administrators and law makers who command no respect from the people ... social workers and boys in frocks 😊

@therogers4432

17 күн бұрын

Me too 💪🇬🇧😎, but I'm buying a Euromillions ticket tomorrow just to increase my chances of owning an MP5 (and a big patch of forest to enjoy it in...) one day from "Absolutely Frig-All Chance Whatsoever" to "More Likely To Get Hit By An Asteroid..."

@causewaykayak

16 күн бұрын

​@@therogers4432 Take a holiday in eastern europe. I wonder if this comment will survive the pruning blade. Politically awkward comments on UT gave a very short half life. Bit like your lottery gamble . Anyway I hope the suggestion helps 😊

@DefunctYompelvert

16 күн бұрын

You can own a suppressed, .22lr SBR (overall length over 30") MP5 with unlimited mag capacity - Thats a massive flex in some ways on the US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada who would have to go through some or A lot of BS to have

@causewaykayak

16 күн бұрын

@@DefunctYompelvert Thats something I suppose but the point some of us are making us that we should NOT have to ask permission.

Thanks for the explanation Ian! There’s thousands of guys who are kicking themselves for not buying a transferable sear pack way back in 1986…..

@riu.1180

17 күн бұрын

Can't believe I was so stupid to be non-existent back then rather than acquiring land and guns

@Jreb1865

17 күн бұрын

They weren't all that cheap even then...

@JoshuaC923

17 күн бұрын

​@@riu.1180exactly😂

@huntermckee2279

17 күн бұрын

@@Jreb1865yeah… but you could buy a crate of Mosins for $400 with 1,660 rounds of ammunition and the crate. You could buy a crate of Carcanos for $99.95 with ammo.

@nathanrodriguez780

17 күн бұрын

Damn. I wish that I had the foresight when I was 11 to have picked one of these up. I wonder if my parents would have been okay with buying me machine gun parts?

Listening to Ian talk about HK machine guns on a Monday morning at work while doing payroll and paperwork. So soothing.

"Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho."-Best Christmas movie of all time.

“Everybody ought to have a full auto MP5” that’s the most logical thing I’ve heard today. Abolish the NFA

Now I need an emotional support MP5 😭

@mikepj67

17 күн бұрын

“and I’ll be there….”hk response team

Don't forget that there are unmodified registered receiver guns with modified unregistered trigger packs, and if you remove the trigger pack from it you don't have a short barrel rifle but you can't use the trigger pack on another host even though it would fit. In summary, there are three types of legally registered HK machine guns that civilians can own. One, Registered Receiver guns which are the same specs as factory machine guns and will accept all factory parts and trigger groups. Two, registered auto sears or trigger packs. These are conversion devices modified to fit unmodified semi auto receivers. Like Ian said, you have to watch out for the SBR thing. And Three, there are what the ATF refers to as improper registrations. That would be the guns where the receiver was registered but not modified and a trigger group was modified but not registered. This type of conversion is the least desirable as the receiver will not accept any factory machine gun trigger housings and, you cannot separate the trigger group from the receiver and use it on another gun. It's a one trick pony. The reason it's not a SBR without the trigger group is because the receiver is registered as a machine gun, even though it won't accept machine gun parts. But, it also can't be a SBR because you can't legally separate the trigger group from the receiver, otherwise then you have an unregistered conversion trigger pack. Makes perfect sense, right?

@MartinsMachines

17 күн бұрын

I do also believe i have heard there are a few registered trigger packs/sears where the receiver has been also been modified. Much more rare and in an even more sketchy area regarding legality

@mk760fan3

13 күн бұрын

​@@MartinsMachinesFJ Vollmer actually did this and the ATF told him no, because modifying the receiver made a second machine gun even if a registered sear was installed in it. I reluctantly admit that the ATF was correct in that regard because the modified receiver would accept a factory machine gun pack at that point. Vollmer rewelded the receivers back to semi auto specifications but was told by the ATF that they were now machine guns even though they had been converted back to semi. Vollmer sued the ATF and was able to show the court the functional difference and won the case. This is one of the times where ATF lost a case they made based on their theory of "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"

the amount of mental gymnastics on the ATF's part needed for these laws is insane

@TheFanatical1

16 күн бұрын

Don't blame the ATF: this is the only way you could rule given the laws as-written.

Moral of the story... NFA is a train wreck.

@chaostheoryfilms

16 күн бұрын

They need to reopen the registry,

@hdog9046

13 күн бұрын

@@chaostheoryfilms Reopen it? I say they need to get rid of the registry entirely, it serves zero purpose other than to hurt otherwise law-abiding citizens.

@chaostheoryfilms

13 күн бұрын

@@hdog9046 I don't disagree, however right now aside from a breakdown in law and order, reopening the registry/another amnesty is the most likely thing to happen.

@hdog9046

13 күн бұрын

@@chaostheoryfilms Yeah, little victories are all we can get until enough people realize just how bad most gun laws are.

If I had the money to worry about an auto HK full auto trigger kit, I wouldn’t worry about the stamp.

@noahfyan9617

17 күн бұрын

Bruh you can get em from surplus sites as paper weights I've seen cetme ones for like 150 bucks

Thanks Reagan

@LD-Orbs

17 күн бұрын

One of his more stupid decisions. 😑

@olddirtyburt7522

14 күн бұрын

@@LD-Orbs Just one of many. I'm sure the Black Panthers appreciated his input as governor of California

That's a lot of words just to say repeal the NFA... Good info, but they make it vague so they jam you up whenever they want.

@mrlucky5025

17 күн бұрын

^^ Exactly this ^^ The rules are designed to be confusing and vague.

And to further muddy the waters, you have the registered sear option vs the registered trigger box option, with their own advantages and disadvantages as well.

@distalradius8146

13 күн бұрын

Thats why the people who pay the most for these things actually go through a broker. It costs significantly more than doing a private sale on the open market but folks with that kind of money like to pay for the extra peace of mind that what they're buying is legal, functional, and as advertised. There are only a handful of em in the whole country but they're never hurting for business.

Thank you Ian, you cleared the mud a little bit!

"ATF" The Dark Lords of obscure and convoluted description of any regulations they have.

Clear as mud; exactly the issue with these laws, they are nonsensical and even the people enforcing them do not understand them. Great video sir.

As a owner of multiple auto sears / sear packs I learned all that you explained here many years ago to keep me from wearing orange jumpsuit and handcuffs 😮😊 Thank you for educating all of us 😊😊 Please keep up the great job sir .😊😊😊

@nl9002

17 күн бұрын

Don’t say this stuff on the Internet bud.

@catfishsiegel30

17 күн бұрын

@@nl9002 thanks for the legal advice

@Hilth0Modding

17 күн бұрын

And I'd bet no one's ever asked or it's ever been brought up except by you lol

@lelandgaunt9985

16 күн бұрын

@@Hilth0Modding Just wanted to let you know that, I’m vegan a practice CrossFit. 😂

Holy crap! That’s an insanely convoluted set of regs.

Ian thx for the clarification, I own these HK’s both ways and I have a registered trigger pack that I’m selling. This video is a great source that I can use to help explain this process to potential buyers.

Thank you for this video. I already knew everything explained in this video but it took me literally months of researching the internet to figure out what he just explained in a few minutes.

This is extremely helpful for the masses ty Ian!!!

"With all these convoluted laws around transferring machine guns and 'assault weapons,' those criminals with their glocks with switches won't be able to do any harm!" -Not a sensible human being

@1lovesoni

17 күн бұрын

Would you believe that felons are actually exempt from being charged for NFA violations? The Supreme Court ruled in Haynes-v-US that felons cannot be expected to apply for NFA registration because it violates their 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination. That's right, the NFA is only ever used to charge otherwise upstanding and rule-abiding citizens. Career criminals just get the same "felon in possession (of a firearm)" charge regardless of type (or even just for ammo). There are some potential enhancements for that charge, but they're primarily about how the gun was being used or what else the possesor was doing at the time (eg: used in a crime, or along with drug possession, etc...).

@zombieranger3410

16 күн бұрын

You will never see a felon with a glock switch be put away for 30 years on a NFA charge but you will see a regular person who got lost in the maze of laws end up getting 30. Violent felon who killed 2 people, long history of breaking the law and violence, vs guy who didn’t have enough U.S. made parts in his parts kit.

@TheFanatical1

16 күн бұрын

​@@1lovesoni they don't charge them with failing to register the gun because that actually would be contrary to self-incrimination. Blame whoever wrote the 5th amendment, not the ATF.

Thanks again Ian

Thanks for this video! I haven't seen this explained so clearly until now!

Crazy how a piece of metal or even plastic can get you up to 10-30 years in prison

@WingZeroGWO

17 күн бұрын

All it takes is enough people willing to believe that magical words on paper written by perfect strangers, applies to them. This is how all "laws" work.

@maineiacman

17 күн бұрын

Makes me wonder how "activist" prosecuters and judges handle switches on Glocks in Chicago.

@sethwallace4878

17 күн бұрын

@@maineiacman they do so by suing Glock. Which doesn’t make them in the first place, because that makes sense somehow?

@WayStedYou

17 күн бұрын

@@maineiacman suing glock who dont make the switch because reasons

@oso9809

17 күн бұрын

@@sethwallace4878 Yeah that move was a real head shaker.

Thank you Ian ❤

Great video and very informative.

Great content Ian

very important. thank you.

Thanks, Ian 👍

Clear as mud, thanks.

ATF should not make rules. Creating confusion to go after law abiding citizens. Too afraid to go after machine guns in the hood. A judge will release them in a day with no bail anyway.

There's also "mated" sear packs and "uppers" - I remember back in the day it was possible to get them 'separated' if the sear was registered - you didn't get two machineguns out of it, but could then use the sear pack in another host. All my HK NFA toys though, thankfully, aren't that convoluted, and all the 'hosts' are registered SBRs as well.

These issues also apply to registered bolts for uzi and teck9s. If the bolt is separated from a host weapons (sold) you can end up with a SBR or AOW. Many tech9s have a front pistol grip when a mg bolt is installed which becomes a AOW if not accompanied by a mg bolt.

@ninobrown909

17 күн бұрын

Aow?

@dodsonarmsco

17 күн бұрын

@ninobrown909 a handgun with a second vertical hand grip is classified as a AOW ( any other weapon with a $5.00 transfer tax)

@geodkyt

17 күн бұрын

AOW - A catchall category of NFA stuff that covers "concealable" guns that don't meet the definition of non-NFA "pistols", "revolvers", nor fall under any NFA category. One of the most common ways to "accidentally" make an AOW is to add a vertical foregrip to a legal handgun, because (according to ATF's purely administrative and unilateral judgement) the definition of a "pistol" or a "revolver" only allows ONE vertical grip - the normal pistol grip. Thus, a "pistol" you have a VFG on is both "concealable" (less than 26" long overall) and yet isn't a handgun. Yeah, bolting that $10 airsoft grip to the accessory rail of your Glock or Sig magically makes it an NFA item.

Fascinating!! Thanks!

Cant say i have this problem ian

12:00 Expecting to see this combo as the "two guns" in the next two-gun match video. 😄

Pretty solid video on the subject. It definitely is a little complex. It get's really fun when you have multiple host guns that have different barrel lengths and you have to be careful about how you take them apart and assemble them to make sure you don't make an SBR by accident. Also, you can have a two-pin upper receiver if you don't have a full-auto carrier/bolt and the receiver is modified to ensure you can't insert one (receiver block). Conversely, you can have a full auto carrier and bolt in a semi auto gun if it has a shelf and not a second pin. Basically, as long as it has one of the two, you're in the clear. All my hosts have full auto carriers and bolts, but they also have shelves/no second pin hole. Generally, the only thing I have to swap if moving from gun to gun is the ejector on the pack.

I watch all of the goofy Varusteleka ads on Ian's channel. Ian, if you read this, tell them to keep making them. In fact, tell them to make them even goofier.

This was a great video, I've always wondered about the legality of HK lower swapping. Turns out, it's far more complicated than I thought

Very interesting and helpful. To add to the old err.... maxim: Certainties are death , taxes and arcane gun laws....

I'll need to watch this again. I need to watch this again.

"A big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff" Ian explaining legality of HKs and the NFA

@ronwalsh

17 күн бұрын

Best comment ever.

@HALO-2304

17 күн бұрын

@ronwalsh Thanks! 😅 I've known enough about the NFA to be dangerous for years and always likened it to some dark art because one fuck-up could land you in jail. I only recently got my first NFA item, an SBR. I hope to add another and a suppressor to the list soon. Watching Ian explaining *this* cluster of a situation makes me glad HKs are too rich for my blood. 😆

@kennethstaszak9990

17 күн бұрын

The Doctor approves your comment!

@SidneyBroadshead

17 күн бұрын

Close. It's "Kraut Space Magic".

I definitely learned something new today. Not being an HK person, I had no idea.

Thank you. For almost five seconds, I didn't feel sick knowing the NFA is a thing. You've remedied that!

If you have a registered sear in a host with a barrel less than 16” and a stock, as soon as you remove the registered sear you have a SBR. This is why most hosts are also registered as SBR’s too. (Or should be). There are also registered receiver guns where the receiver is a UN-modified semi-auto (clip on lower NOT swing down) and the modified trigger group/auto sear is not registered. These guns you cannot remove the sear from the host without having a un-registered machine gun. Before 1986 these HK sear machine guns were very expensive for the time (about $1,000 NOT including the $200 transfer tax) You had the cost of the semi-auto HK94 for $500 plus the cost of the sear, plus cost of gunsmithing to modify the trigger pack and welding up the semi-auto bolt carrier (full auto mp5 carriers were not readily available then). At the time a registered M16 from Colt was $500 plus tax. And new Cobray M11 nine’s were $150 plus tax. 99% of transferable “MP5’s” are registered conversions of HK 94’s done by Vollmer, Fleming or S&H in the 1980’s. Real original all German transferable MP5’s are super rare as they had to be made and imported PRIOR to the GCA of 1968.

I was waiting patiently for the “clear as mud” and I was rewarded

This was really interesting listening to this difference between the 2 variants of the MP5 and i really liked your comment about how everyone ought to buy a full-auto MP5 because the sears make it easier to produce extra machine guns.

@Poorehouse

14 күн бұрын

There are actually three variants. Registered push-pin machine guns. Registered trigger assemblies and registered sears. The distinction in the latter two is which part carry’s the serial number the sear or the trigger group. Based on that it also informs which parts can be replaced… if you break a registered sear, you can’t replace it. The pack is also modified for use with a registered sear (sear, hammer and springs). If you break a part in a registered trigger group, you can replace any part in the trigger group with a factory part - including the sear - which is the registered part in a registered sear! Clear as mud!

I’ve never seen a forgotten weapons video say “no views” before. Wowza!

@smAshomAsh

17 күн бұрын

By the time you've left a comment, there were probably hundreds of views and several comments getting typed! We wish our space weather channel were as popular as this, one of our favorite channels ever on KZread.

@troyandskyelar9588

14 күн бұрын

Oh I wasn’t trying to be first. By the time I’d clicked the video it already had comments. I was more meaning I’d never seen one freshly uploaded like that :)

@smAshomAsh

14 күн бұрын

@@troyandskyelar9588 You refreshed at just the right time. Coincidentally Ian is refreshing.

The further into the video, the more it sounds like "The Gateau from the Chateau" episode from the British comedy series "'Allo 'Allo!", except that it's HK trigger packs and receivers mixed with BATFE rules.

I have a PTR that is advertised as having this capability. Nice to see what is involved to do it.

Fascinating.

You shoukd have released this at Christmas just for the Die Hard reference

@JoshuaC923

17 күн бұрын

😂

@WALTERBROADDUS

17 күн бұрын

I'm really going to miss Bruce Willis making movies...

God, I hate the ATF even more now and I thought that wasn’t possible

Wow even by ATF standards this is an insane rule without any use against illegal posession of a machine gun.

Clear as mud is a complete understatement. Mine were built as SBR’s with sear ready lowers. Sear redy, should I ever win the lotto.

Back in the mid-90's I bought a transferable converted Franchi LF-62 from a well-known dealer that, according to the form, had an HK 3-caliber sear installed in it. When I got the gun I realized that not only was there no HK sear in it, the serial number was just electropencilled on the frame in a place hidden by the detachable stock. The gun traced back to Bill Fleming, who was then in jail for various shenanigans. I sold the gun soon after since I was uncomfortable owning it but I'm sure it's still out there somewhere.

I'd like to see a part 2 to this concerning AR DIASs.

Repeal the NFA

@idontcare-ct7jm

17 күн бұрын

We are actively losing ground in the gun rights department. Machineguns are never coming back unfortunately

@samsonsoturian6013

17 күн бұрын

Shut up

@judahboyd2107

17 күн бұрын

​@@idontcare-ct7jm3d printed and Chinese Ali-express Glock auto sears will make machine guns undeniably in common use.

@wakakulyonetwo

17 күн бұрын

@@idontcare-ct7jm not with that attitude

@HopeisAnger

17 күн бұрын

​@@idontcare-ct7jmThere are fewer gun laws now than at any point in the 1900s. Defeatist propaganda glows.

Well that clears that up ..................I think.

They make gun laws complicated and convoluted because that makes it easier for law enforcement to misuse them in order to infringe the only constitutionally guaranteed right to explicitly contain the phrase "shall not be infringed"..

@dwrdwlsn5

17 күн бұрын

Um, the Founding Fathers, even Jefferson, NEVER thought military weapons like cannon should be in the hands of anyone with money. Military grade ordnance in the hands of random people would have terrified every one of them, with reason. Think I lie? Google 'The Whiskey Rebellion' sometime. Gun are not the problem. IDIOTS with guns are the problem. Restricting guns is almost like restricting abortions. People who want them badly enough WILL get them, no matter the costs or consequences. Then add the wackos on all sides and it becomes a shitstorm. Guns are not the problem. MACHINE GUNS are no the problem. The problem? WAY too many people in the US think guns are toys or magic wands that you wave to make things 'better'. But that is not a soundbyte, so it is ignored in the need to scare people into giving up more freedom or money.

@Urbanizegaming

17 күн бұрын

@@dwrdwlsn5 It's common sense that military ordinance shouldn't be in the hands of randoms. People back then were a lot more in touch with reality, thus simple things like this were simply held to be self-evident. Nuance was a part of social etiquette. Now the debate has shifted to schizos talking about needing to own landmines and howitzers or it's a "tyranny".

@AsbestosMuffins

17 күн бұрын

that or bc our gun laws are basically antiques from a time long before the internet, and the ATF is writing regulations around what they have.

@williambrasky3891

17 күн бұрын

You’re right, but a right is a right. One right is no more or less of a right than another just because the language chosen to outline it explicitly mentions one of its core characteristics as a right. Shall not be infringed is implied by nature of its definition as a right. In other words, just because some ye ole dudes decided to be redundant with their language doesn’t make that right a double right. Anyway, ACAB, don’t forget it.

@dwrdwlsn5

16 күн бұрын

@@williambrasky3891 Yeah, but it is a right only until certain people decide it shouldn't be one. Funny thing, the people who GENERALLY do such first are NOT the liberals because the other side knows who has the power and who deserves it. (Themselves)

You would also need a full-auto bolt.

Frickin early gang checking in

@jamesallred460

17 күн бұрын

Yo, reporting for duty!

I have built a couple of HKs from parts kits, and being they were built semi auto, there is a whole list of stuff you need to do to the trigger pack to have it semi enough for the AFT.

September 1986, when I finally got approval to take possession of my select-fire MAC-10 - and in unfolding the stock and shouldering it wondered if it needed to be registered as an SBR too..... after a little digging found out one of the points covered in this video.

@1lovesoni

17 күн бұрын

The upper actually DOES need to be SBR registered if it's ever combined with an unregistered semi-auto lower.

love the Die Hard reference.

wait did i hear that correctly? 35k for a gun? at that price people can afford to spend the extra 1000 to ask a lawyer what they can and cant do...

@dbmail545

17 күн бұрын

Good luck finding a lawyer that understands gun laws well enough to give you worthwhile advice. None of the lawyers in my family do.

@Urbanizegaming

17 күн бұрын

@@dbmail545 Just learn the law yourself.. Any gun hobbyist is basically a self-made lawyer at this point thanks to the intricacies of being able to own them

@crushingexistentialism

17 күн бұрын

35k for a cheap one. Some of them go up to 50 or 60k.

@Hilth0Modding

17 күн бұрын

​@dbmail545 currently gun laws mean nothing, you can follow the legal letter of law, then the ATF will make a new rule and suddenly you're no longer compliant. Might aswell just do what you want.

@IceWolfLoki

16 күн бұрын

At that amount just pay the relatively minor tax stamp for a SBR. The machineguns not having to be registered as a SBR loophole is really just an edge case.

So I can have an unregulated trigger select fire trigger pack that fits into my semi auto shelf receiver and make a machine gun. Nice this makes lots of sense.

Nice, Die Hard reference.

Off topic, but my Ian Pat boonie from Where's The Liquor arrived today. I had a good laugh, also because of the "Made in Poland" tag, and am expecting many years of service from this awesome product ✌🏻

WOW, a factory transferable MP5! I was under the impression, that all transferable MP5s were HK94 conversions (sear or receiver), since the MP5 was introduced (1966?) just before the 1968 Machinegun import ban. Learn something everyday. Secondly: The converted HK94 with the registered sear, can be a "one stamp gun", if on the ATF Form (1,3,4, or 5), the shortened HK94 is married to the sear. I own one myself in that configuration. Thanks for the great video.

@MartinsMachines

17 күн бұрын

Im wondering if it’s just a conversion to factory specs and he was mistaken but It is potentially possible. If so it will certainly go for big money

@CarlosGunX

17 күн бұрын

@@MartinsMachines Yes, would seem to be a rarity. I have never seen or heard about a transferable, factory one. A conversion should then, bring less money than the sear.

@montanaplease

16 күн бұрын

Apparently, ATF has let a few pre-sample slip through the system into a transferable status, but generally, they catch their mistake Whether it’s the next transfer or another examiner looks at the paperwork.

Die Hard references are always welcome, Ian.

Loved the die hard reference

Confused? Just remember: ATF once ruled that a shoelace is a machine gun.

Hi Ian, would you do a video about the weapons in the movie "Leon the professional"? I watched it the other way and i have many questions about the guns in that film.

This video proves I will listen to Ian talking about anything 😅

I think it would be a good episode just talking about why we even have transferable sears.

*I'm suprised this is still up on KZread.*

Perfect example of why the ATF is unconstitutional. This was a very informative video and I appreciate it.

This is why a full auto angry toob sten is better than your dark kraut magic mp5

@Jreb1865

17 күн бұрын

This. I'm quite happy with the Sten M2 I bought in 1988 for $600.00. Interport made it, and it runs like a sewing machine. Only Class 3 toy I own. FTW...

@68buicks

14 күн бұрын

@@Jreb1865I been loving on my m11a1. Not the same, but add the max31 upper and you’re in similar territory

Solution: Repeal the NFA. If a law or set thereof is so complex and convoluted that it REQUIRES a specialized lawyer to navigate, then the law ought be repealed.

Makes sense, though irrelevant to me. I appreciate the attempt to inform people.

Great video and did clarify a lot... however, it brought up a question that it then didn't answer. You said that the bolt in a semi-only gun is also different than a full-auto bolt. So in the case of a transferrable full auto trigger pack that has been modified to hook onto unmodified semi-only guns - how does this enable full auto if the bolt also needs modification to work with the trigger pack? Wouldn't the gun still be semi-auto or not function at all? I'm assuming that the trigger mech internals have also been modified somehow to use the semi bolt? Does that mean they no longer work with a full auto bolt?

Ian did a great job on a complicated matter - but muddied the waters a bit not making a distinction between a registered sear and a registered pack - the key being which part is serialized. He also didn’t talk enough about “marrying” a sear to a gun - you might be able to move that pack to another gun - but not if it’s married because that as he points out created an unregistered SBR assuming the upper started life as a rifle. You could see in this cash that the upper was also a registered part, probably married to the sear in the clip on pack, based on the S&H manufacturer engraving on the back left of the receiver. But maybe it was registered separately as a SBR… confusing stuff!

I like to imagine this is one of his April fools/fallout videos and a free American would never have to go through all this. Thanks for the interesting information, Ian. Still an entertaining video

@gustavusadolphus425

17 күн бұрын

Americans also have a right to life which, suprise surprise, is violated by getting shot. And that right to life is a tad more important then your right to own guns.

@gustavusadolphus425

17 күн бұрын

Americans also have a right to life which, suprise surprise, is violated by getting shot. And that right to life is a tad more important then your right to own guns.

Just as soon as I watch this three more times, I'm sure I'll understand what you just said. Haha

Back in '82 or '83 when I started to shooting much more frequently, I seem to remember a full auto MP5A costing about $1400. I sure wanted one, but I couldn't afford it. Hindsight being what it is, I sure with I could have managed to purchase 10 of them and put them in storage. But hey, who knew you'd get a 2500% ROI? Feel free to tell me if I'm mis-remembering that price, that was 40 years.

Excpept for the full-auto bolt problem, you probably could [however not legally] swap FCG from the full-auto lower to semi-auto lower>

Very interesting, thank you. Now I just wish I had enough money to worry about it. 🤑🤣

The mp5 is truly iconic and I’d love one, but given I only by range ammo on sale, once I’ve spent HK money on a semi auto, there’s no way I could afford to feed a full auto. The full auto world is just crazy to me!