How To Avoid Drilling Through Cables In a Wall | Cable Zones Explained
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In this video i will be showing you prescribed cable zones in a simplified way which will help you to avoid hitting electrical cables when you are drilling or cutting into a wall. I will also be showing you how to use a multi detector to find wires in a wall. If you like the video then leave a like and please subscribe for more content like this.
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Important to note that circuits have to be switched on for the detector to beep. :)
@davewright9312
11 ай бұрын
Use the metal detection function and it picks it up regardless
Worth mentioning a couple of other tricks: check what is on the other side if the wall is internal, and take the switch or socket off to see which way the cables exit
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
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This video is a life saver / literally i mean/ but seriously most of them are ignoring this part of the scanning problem only caring of the stud findings. idk this topic is crucial not to mess it up. so big kudos to you.
great video, so useful and well presented. Thanks!
Happy days another great vid from The DIY Guy!
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! Just the beginning
Very helpful as usual
You are very well spoken. No um's or uh's. Thank you for that!
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 🙌
@gingerkidsattack
3 ай бұрын
Funny because I agree, but I read this as soon as he said an umm @4:42 😆
Quality vid Might be a stretch but would be good to see the inside of wall and how the cables/pipes and any other bits are “typically” routed so we get a better understanding of what it looks like. Thanks
Brilliant stuff really enjoying this channel and all the help you are giving us keen to learn home owners,keep them coming,very important to avoid electrical wires and pipes when drilling for obvious reasons
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot. Glad to help
@FLOSSYTREADWELL
9 ай бұрын
Me too! Helped me put my blinds up, sort my radiators, learn which drywall fixings to use & now how to safely put up my heavy metal kitchen pan shelves & hooks too!
Thanks, I didn’t know about these zones. Very informative 👍
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. Just rented a new apartment and I will follow your advices when drilling. Thank you
This is the most useful channel on KZread!
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
Beloved thank you for the video.
Useful information
Thank u for helping me diy safely
I enjoy watching your video, Thanks!
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
So helpful for people that don't know this good help !
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Great
So helpful!! Thank you❤
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
I've never had much luck with all these detectors they seem to beep all over the place!!
@excalibur9768
11 ай бұрын
With my Bosch one, you have to 'earth' it by placing the hand you're not holding the detector with against the wall whilst you scan. Otherwise it just bleeps constantly.
@CollectJam
11 ай бұрын
Exactly this. Someone told me to Earth it also. Makes the world of difference.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
And if it's not, some of them apparently suffer from static from where you run them on the wall/flock wallpaper I imagine. "Earth" them by bopping them on the head or tapping them on another surface if you're in your DMs.
@JohnUk65
11 ай бұрын
@@excalibur9768 good to know. 👍
@lj6079
6 ай бұрын
Same here, just used it on the wall and it shows wiring all over the four walls
Very informative video, thanks
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Good content, it’s worth mentioning that although regs are in place and should be followed I’ve seen cables at 45 degrees across a wall (dot and dab) I’ve also seen ables run down the outsider reveals right where a curtain hook would go. Great information as per👍🏻
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely right
Great video 👍🙏
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks mick 👍
I’ve been looking for a video like this for years so thank you! Please could you also clarify where we’d be likely to have pipes, i.e. if you want to drill in a bathroom?
great video , thanks 👍👍
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
My detector told me the whole wall was electrified when I was putting shelves up in the utility room, now I understand why - vapour resistant plasterboard! Thanks!
Hello, great video, I have a question regarding the zone at the joint of two walls. Would the ‘don’t drill’ zone apply where a chimney breast meets a wall? In other words, I’m wanting to put up some alcove shelving and would like to know if the 150mm zone as per the video would apply where a chimney breast meets a wall.
Great video
@TheDIYGuy1
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Bless you
Learnt something useful today …thanx mukka ….😉😉😉
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
My pleasure 😊
Cheers m8! Bloke like myself done drilled a damn wire Blimmey
My daughter has just moved into a new build and needs all sorts to be screwed up. This video will help act as a belt and braces approach when my detector throws a hissy fit!
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍
Hi. Does that go for every wall or just those with a light or plug socket on? Great vid. Very helpful. Cheers! 👍
Great vid very informative, could i just mention that its a good idea to look on the over side of the wall incase some one has tailed of for an extra socked or thinks like wall lights,,, not a criticism
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Good tip that !
As a spark good shout bud I rember working in a golf course n a guy wanted to hang a picture above a picture light he did but mangled the cables so we had to open up the newly decorated wall fix his bodge fair play he didn't know.. but we did 👍
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. This is why I make videos like this to try and increase awareness 👍
How do you calculate materials for media wall , all timber studs , all plaster board and rest of it please
Excellent video mate. It would great if you could do a video on adding sockets horizontally for kitchens along with how you wire them up.
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Great suggestion!
@ChrisLivingInYork
11 ай бұрын
@@TheDIYGuy1 thanks, look forward to the video. You could even do an ‘ L’shaped connection for cooker socket if you know what I mean.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
A series of down and up again "U"s
@fabianmckenna8197
11 ай бұрын
@@JP_TaVeryMuch Agreed, ring under the floor coming up and down, up and down etc.
As an added check, if in doubt, I loosen off the fixture and look which way the cable is routed.
Will these work for Brick and Mortar (Cement) walls to detect wiring underneath? What about water pipes under tile and cement walls?
Great video. Just one question - at 1:59 when you talk about where two walls meet (i.e.. inside corner of a room) there is a zone at that corner. Would this also apply if a corner edge is formed at the back of those walls e.g. if two walls meet in an 'L' shape - the inside edge is a zone (as in your video) but is the outer edge a cable zone too?
I have a multi detector by bosch, maybe the same model. It detects live wire across the entire wall, not just at the location of the actual wire.
Maybe teach us the beginners guide on how to drill from choosing the drill bits to please
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
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Can you do a vid for the ceiling?
Lots of professional electricians refuse to install cables unless they are vertical. The only exception is a adjacent socket less that 12inches away or a cooker,or other outlet with a local isolator switch. That’s why most cables get drilled as other trades and most DIYers don’t expect a cable to go sideways.
@tazmaniandevil1503
11 ай бұрын
When I was an apprentice it was drummed into us that horizontal or diagonal cable runs are bad practice. There is nothing in regs to say not to run cables horizontal, it's just bad practice.
I have a medium to large bedroom wall the plug double socket is in the right-hand corner of the Wall no light switch on that wall I tried, well my uncle tried to drill 4 holes for a mirror in the middle of the wall but the drill won't go all the way in to 3 of the holes its as though something's there and the drill head will not go any further? The main front bedroom is on the other side of this back bedroom. what could be stopping the drill from going in, it's an old house I know the brick is hard but not so hard for the drill not to go through for plug and nail to go in. Please help?
I remember in another video you had said about spurring off from existing sockets. how can you tell if an existing socket has been spurred from another socket? was thinking as well how you can tell if your wiring is "ring main" setup or a " radial circuit"?
@ACAIDC
2 ай бұрын
Count the cables entering the back box of the socket. One cable means it's already on a spur. Two cables means it's a regular socket on a ring or radial circuit. Three cables mean it supplies a spur.
Great
@TheDIYGuy1
8 ай бұрын
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Hello, another good help tip. I am getting confident with electricity thanks to your clear guidance. Could I ask, have you built a workshop? I am curious to see your workstation. I am keen to transform my garage into a workshop but keen to understand how you can add more sockets, should you add protection to the walls I.E to make them damp proof etc. thank you in advance.
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
A workshop build series is coming later this year 👍
@Mr-To-Do-List
11 ай бұрын
Excellent thank you. I really appreciate your videos. Recently I have been going on a live feed called shed heads on Thursdays at 7. It’s where people talk about their workshops, tools. Really interesting. The channel is on the small workshopadventures. If you get a chance, have a listen. Thanks once again.
" check out my Amazon shop etc " well I tapped what should have been a link that says the quote above but sadly it's not sensitive to touch so I couldn't go to your Amazon shop I'm watching you on KZread I don't go to the other sites how about you send me your Amazon shop link and thank you for this video I have to drill into a small wall space and I'm scared. If my electric drill did hit a wire what would happen what's happened to others? Thanks for being there and helping us out....
my house, 1959, had some cables upstairs that went down and along like an L so that threw us a few curve balls when doing the loft conversion, especially as it went through behind a door frame
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Ouch, can happen.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
Ditto skirting boards. Nice gaps at the edge of plastered walls sometimes too tempting for a DIYer.
Great video, two tips to people in the comments: 1. In my experience there isnt much difference in accuracy between the cheap Amazon/ebay detectors and fhe expensive bosch ones 2. To be doubly sure, kill the power at the consumer unit then unscrew the faceplate for the lightswitch and socket to see which direction cables were routed
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
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@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
I've had cables do a sharp right out of the top of the back box so even this tip sometimes isn't enough. Then theres water and gas pipes and studs, of course.
Remember, when first picking up the stud detector, you are obligated to use it on yourself and comment that it isn't working!
@TheDIYGuy1
3 ай бұрын
😂👍
Can u do a video of running network cabling from one room to the next via the loft and down the drywall.
@TheDIYGuy1
9 ай бұрын
I’ll see what I can do, thanks
Is this applicable in the United States?
i think i heard you say the device was set to "electricity". does that mean electricity has to be going through the wires (lights turned on for example) to be detected or is it just detecting metal?
@eddiecotter7201
11 ай бұрын
It just means he has the device in his hand set to electricity,these devices would have a setting for wood as in studs in the wall and metal for metal pipes also so you need to have the correct setting switched on,the device will pick up any electric current behind the wall regardless of wether the lights are on or not
@davewright9312
11 ай бұрын
@@eddiecotter7201I have that device and it doesn't always pick up cables on electric setting but it always does on metal setting
I'm one of those cool people who drilled a cable. Scared the life out of me. I used an existing hole as guidance that I could drill safely. Turned out the original installer had put their cable 1cm out of zone and nicked their own cable.
Have you or can you do one for running electric to a shed.
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
I’m the future I can do that 👍
@kenmcintyre6415
11 ай бұрын
@@TheDIYGuy1 I will look out for that one 👍
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
@@TheDIYGuy1 Me too. Number of times a customer has wanted a sharp turn in a bit of buried Armoured to avoid a shrub. Ha!
How about drilling from hallway in bedroom how about I drill through skiryen board
Are these specific standards international?
Is there a similar set of prescribed zones for plumbing? With more radiators being fed with plastic pipes, using detectors is often impossible. Easier to repair a cable than a pipe too!
@Andyfishing23
11 ай бұрын
There should be
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
Not as lethal either. Unless it's a gas main.
Thanks to whoever rewired my house before I got it. I followed the up down zone when fitting new kitchen wall cabinets, drilled 100mm to the left of socket, hit the bloody cable, it wasn't running straight up, was going at a diagonal!. Luckily they used conduit so I could pull it out from l the upstairs bedroom..... 😂
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Ouch. These things can happen but as you say, luckily you could pull it 👍
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@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
👍 cheers
5:07 how to hang pictures on a plasterboard/stud wall please
@TheDIYGuy1
9 ай бұрын
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You _are_ a boy aren't you? Clear, quick and concise. Congrats, couldn't fault it! You even mentioned the "green" alternative that's messed these (+ zone knowledge) life-savers up; namely replacing the studs with metals 5:48. My school art teacher would be happy that her love of the artist Mondrian is finally useful in the big bad world (03:45). Yeah, exactly!
Any switch or socket vertical or horizontal is a danger zone. Should have also included wall lights too in that description
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Yes Wall lights are an ‘accessory’
Regardless of safe zones I always check with detector . Better safe than sorry
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Good idea 👍
Install rj45 cable
150ml?
I dont think my detector is very accurate. I have two plug sockets that look like they come together along the bottom and go up vertically in the middle of the wall. Its a wall in a loft conversion so its possible. But when my detector picks up this supposed cable it seems to then say live wire on every part of the wall. I turn it off and back on again then it picks up nothing at all, even where it previously said there was a cable. Im not picking up anything above the plug sockets either or the light switch yet the fuse box is directly above that. I can avoid those areas anyway its just bugging me that my detector is not giving me results that make sense. And i am reluctant to drill into the wall i need to even though i know it "should" be a safe area.
Masz bardzo fajny język angielski. Mógłbyś być nauczycielem.
RCDs removed the need to follow zones so alot of installers ignore this; a scanner is the best thing you can use. Also watch out for plumbers 🤣 they have no zones
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Haha 👍
I have to use this everyday for my job. Trouble is there’s not much you can do when the whole place is built with foil back plaster board and plastic pipes. I’ve used it where I know 100% there’s an electric cable with power switched on and it doesn’t detect when it’s not even that deep in the wall.
@herosandwich7589
11 ай бұрын
Yeah he says exactly this at the end
Man, That detector doesn't work for me! It says the whole wall has wires... When I know it doesn't
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Possibly Vapor resistant plasterboard mate
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
@@TheDIYGuy1Or plaster and lath if on "stud-finder" setting.
Can there be wiring just above the door frame?
Bang 😂😂😂😂
New house old one
I always remove a box from the wall to see which way the wires and tubing go. Most are obvious. You can generally figure out that if a box in low to the skirting board the wires are going to go under the floor. Personally, if you have no intelligence, get a qualified electrician in.
@JP_TaVeryMuch
11 ай бұрын
Up to a point... Many DIYers hoik off the skirting board, see a nice channel at floor level if the plaster was a Friday afternoon job and so slot in their ring main/whatever. Be prepared. Like the Scouts in Korea!
I’ve got that exact model of detector and it’s absolute junk I’m afraid, it beeps and gives off all manner of false signals, I even run it over some studwork I had just put up and nothing corresponded with what I knew to be behind it. It’s at the bottom of the van cubby box and that’s where it will stay. A complete waste of money. I’m not mocking the video in anyway just saying I’m a tradesman and I wouldn’t trust that particular model (just in case someone was tempted to buy it) as far as I could throw it, shocking really as I think I paid over £100 for it, a crystal ball would be more reliable.😀
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s strange because mine has been very very good in most circumstances. I wonder if you have a dodgy one?
WEREWOLF'S ARE REAL AND HAVE BEEN SEEN IN THE UK
@TheDIYGuy1
11 ай бұрын
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