How to adjust and set Points Gap on Kohler K Engine

How to set the points gap on your Kohler K Engine. Static Timing Adjustment.
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  • @fredford7642
    @fredford76423 ай бұрын

    Thank you for a very clear explanation on installing and setting the points on this type of engine. Very much appreciated!

  • @jackk8004
    @jackk80043 жыл бұрын

    Now that’s how you explain how to make adjustments. straight to the point and thorough, step-by-step with good lighting great video and great job

  • @donaldshimkus539

    @donaldshimkus539

    2 жыл бұрын

    AND, no ridiculous annoying background music!

  • @nathansingleton6887
    @nathansingleton68874 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man I knew nothing about the point system but your tutorial was so concise and you broke down the theory so perfectly that it left me no choice but to comprehend it. Excellent!!

  • @dale8567
    @dale85673 жыл бұрын

    Well done. Steady cam ,good lighting . All content. No wasted time . Keep up the good work

  • @ciprianolopez5626
    @ciprianolopez56264 жыл бұрын

    Sr. I just wanted to thank you for a great video. I did exactly what you suggested on your video and in matter of minutes after adjusting the points, my Kohler engine came alive. Thank you Sr.

  • @skullypotts
    @skullypotts7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother, trying to get this old gravely alive and kicking again. You were a big help!! Kudos!!

  • @64bzkbfan
    @64bzkbfan4 жыл бұрын

    Just the info I needed. Have a Kohler K532 in a John Deere 400 (circa 1980) and hope those points are easy to find and not tucked away in some odd hiding place. ;-) Recently watched your video on complete restoration of a 400. Great! Thanks

  • @justingarman2189
    @justingarman21896 жыл бұрын

    I bought a rebuilt kit from you guys,and now it runs great, highly recommended.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the review!

  • @KevinRutledge
    @KevinRutledge2 жыл бұрын

    You guys have been a big help in getting my K 241 running again, Thank you so much and keep up the great work.

  • @me7298
    @me7298 Жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial! I am a professional technician, I see quite a few of the Onans but dont see the Kohler K series much. Your videos have been a great help in showing the best way to service the ignition systems on these engines. Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @rawhome1
    @rawhome14 жыл бұрын

    Norman, thank you. A great reminder and well done.

  • @shogunMR
    @shogunMR8 жыл бұрын

    this helped me out I got a tune up kit now i will install it ... Thanks for the help

  • @person86422
    @person86422 Жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for the wealth of knowledge you've left us online. I frequently reference your videos. Now to get the old k241 running again on my gravely 5465! I hope you and the family are doing well, miss seeing your videos, I hope to see you back on youtube someday. Take care.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    Жыл бұрын

    People like you are great for the internet and the world! Thank you for your comment.

  • @josephpuchel6497
    @josephpuchel64973 жыл бұрын

    Hey Norman How are you. I wasn’t a fan of the old Kohler engines but now enjoy getting the ones I get to work on running like a top. Excellent video tutorial. isavetractors has excellent service and information.

  • @yachtwork
    @yachtwork5 жыл бұрын

    Another well done instructional video. Thanks

  • @lonzo61
    @lonzo612 ай бұрын

    Thanks for doing what you do. I own a Cub Cadet 147, and your company is a great resource.

  • @iwantosavemoney
    @iwantosavemoney7 жыл бұрын

    I just bought my first garden tractor last week due to you tutorial on your Cub Cadet 149. money is kind of tight so I looked and looked for one that I could afford well I finally found 2 wheel horse gt14 it came with 2 mower decks and 2 rototiller and 2 3 point hitch they are both hydrostatic for a great price off 300 I think that will be the buy of the year for me since my budget only allowed for 600 so I still have 300 to fix the tractor. am super excited about my build I have to say thank you sir I will be ordering some parts soon. have a good one

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    iwantosavemoney I am glad to hear it! it will be a very rewarding project for you. if you need any help let me know! thank you for saving the tractors! you got a great price on those GT's

  • @douggernhard711
    @douggernhard7112 жыл бұрын

    Clear and to the point! Excellent video.

  • @blairguinea6811
    @blairguinea68115 жыл бұрын

    Great Job Norman such a helpful task

  • @ricktt03
    @ricktt035 жыл бұрын

    very nice a great video made by a person with knowledge of engine and CAMERA!!! excellent a video that is watchable. to everyone else with crappy videos buy a tripod and don't shoot during a wind storm lol

  • @dillongates4520
    @dillongates45204 жыл бұрын

    Hey I have a question my friend has a 1968 John deere 140 h3 same engine as that one and we converted to regular coil not inside a flywheel and we did a wiring properly and we are having no spark we can't figure that out i will appreciate if u reply thanks

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda38183 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your tips.....sure makes things a lot easier.

  • @NiteHawk861
    @NiteHawk8616 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making the video. Helped me fix the problem!👍🏼

  • @kenboyce7989

    @kenboyce7989

    6 жыл бұрын

    JorgeCanAm ATVs show me Point setting on Dual points on 1952 Seagrave fire truck

  • @matthayden869
    @matthayden8694 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic and helpful video thank you

  • @willem3602
    @willem36025 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Norman!

  • @Stu650Zuk
    @Stu650Zuk7 жыл бұрын

    Looking for some advice for my good old IH CC 1650. Engine is the factory installed K341. It has very good compression,,can't remember the psi off the top of my head...Does not knock or burn any oil and starts quickly even in cold winter weather. I have slowly rebuilt this old tractor for the last two years..Made my own repair on the trunion also and all is good...My issue is the engine is falling flat under load...I only get good power when I hold the hydro lever back to slow it down. I have checked and re set the points..Thought for sure I had it there as the gap was down to .005" Set it at .020 while at the widest point. put in a new plug and it did help some as it started instantly in the cold weather and no backfire when shutting it off...It may have some cam wear is what i am thinking and is causing this issue..I also reset the governor rod by loosening the bolt and turning the shaft as far to the left as it would go..I scribed the shaft at that position the proceeded to pull back on the governor rod to the carb and tightened it....Still dogging out when I push the lever all the way forward...I have cleaned and tuned the carb as well and it acts like the governor is having a tough time keeping up with the changes on engine load. The sensitivity actually is to little not to much as the spring and adjustment holes are all slightly worn from years of use...I believe I am down to replacing the whole governor system as well as being time for a new carb as well...Everything else looks good, coil and the rest of the ignition system is right on,,,unless the gap is false from a worn cam...Any other ideas....? thanks

  • @laserfalcon
    @laserfalcon6 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation, straight to the point,

  • @donaldshimkus539

    @donaldshimkus539

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean straight to the "points" don't you. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

  • @laserfalcon

    @laserfalcon

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@donaldshimkus539 Touche

  • @waynew2831
    @waynew28317 жыл бұрын

    I don't believe it!!! An actual useful video on you tube !!! Who would-a thunk. Thank You

  • @deansarow6259

    @deansarow6259

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was a lame observation

  • @R3TR0R4V3

    @R3TR0R4V3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not really.. That comment is certainly warranted. You've got clowns out there, like Taryl Fixes All, etc. who bullshit around, chit-chatting a bunch of nonsense, trying to be funny, then I end up getting annoyed, closing the video, and not learning anything. Norm cuts straight to the chase, no clowning around, no bullshit, no filler and you're actually able to learn something. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @jreed1337
    @jreed13374 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video. You guys are awesome.

  • @davekean6751
    @davekean67514 жыл бұрын

    Great web site , u r da man, just picked up my 2nd Horse 312-8 I may need this info for my latest tractor fix er up. Keep the great info coming.....

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let us know if you ever have any questions or help. You can always call us and ask for Norman!

  • @rogerroth9536
    @rogerroth95362 жыл бұрын

    I'm a teacher. I was going to say you should be a teacher. But, then, you are, and a damn good one!

  • @herberthoppe68
    @herberthoppe688 жыл бұрын

    thanks for sharing. very nice

  • @shanehanna3829
    @shanehanna38296 жыл бұрын

    Cheers really helped the spark on mine

  • @margarethernandez5946
    @margarethernandez59463 жыл бұрын

    I bought the pf.engeneering plans . What hydrolic pump # would be best with power beyond port.?

  • @johnklawrenceiv4782
    @johnklawrenceiv47824 жыл бұрын

    Hi great information! Question I have 1987-90 bobcat with 14hp Kohler trying to find parts (plug &wire etc) what series would this be like K or M and engine K141 etc or K482 etc. thanks John

  • @waldtricki
    @waldtricki7 жыл бұрын

    You have a great channel here. I just bought my first garden tractor, a 1979 Ford LGT 165. Videos like this are super helpful. Before this video I didn't even know what these "points" were, where to find them or much less how to adjust them and why all of that would matter. I consider myself reasonably (if not) dangerously educated on the subject now and you'll have my business when it's time to enter the next stage of my restoration process.

  • @michaelriley3619
    @michaelriley36197 жыл бұрын

    I have a Briggs and Stratton. When I move the engine by hand or by turning the key, nothing moves. Any idea?

  • @showersw
    @showersw5 жыл бұрын

    I have a john deere 317 with a kohler kt17 series 1 my plunger for points doesnt come out when I spin the crankshaft put new points on it and noticed the plunger doesnt come out too set it any idea of whats wrong or how too fix this problem would be greatly appreciated thanks

  • @highstepperARF
    @highstepperARF6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @shortycummins
    @shortycummins3 жыл бұрын

    great videos , valves, points , governor and carb clean and adjusted.. runs better than it wver has

  • @davejohnson2937
    @davejohnson29373 жыл бұрын

    ok question i cant seem to find the timing mark on the cover on a kq532, need some help to find it...

  • @barrymcdermott1723
    @barrymcdermott17236 жыл бұрын

    Thank you good job.

  • @Rusty_stuff
    @Rusty_stuff2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for these videos. I’ve been watching you for years and really appreciate your help. I’m currently restoring a 112 JD round fender with the Tecumseh hh100. Can you tell me the point gap for that engine? I’m not getting spark. Thanks in advance

  • @Mooseracks
    @Mooseracks2 жыл бұрын

    I have a k91 kohler that has no spark... I replaced ignition coil...condenser...and cleaned and gapped the points... Any thoughts will be appreciated

  • @scolopede
    @scolopede Жыл бұрын

    I have a late 60s K301. I was told it ran some months ago and just stopped running. I took the flywheel off and saw it had broken on the shaft, the key broken. Thought that was the spark problem for sure but still, "0" spark even after putting a new coil on the magneto. I'm going to adjust the points tomorrow, but it ran so recently. So what if the gap is too wide, is there no spark or sometimes a spark and so it will run bad? The gap is wide, I tell by just looking at it open, but they do close.

  • @coyotesniper72
    @coyotesniper722 жыл бұрын

    I have followed your videos and replicated the work to the best of my abilities. My 917 Allis will run, but after a few mowings it looses power when the pto is engaged. The most significant issue I’ve ran across is that one side runs very hot and the other much cooler. Any ideas?

  • @ballzmahonee5645
    @ballzmahonee56456 жыл бұрын

    Nice work

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin3 жыл бұрын

    Great channel. Subscribed.

  • @StupidEarthlings
    @StupidEarthlings4 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Clear instructions on YT without alot of babble..who'd a thunk it?

  • @BRWfilms
    @BRWfilms2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks got mine going after doing this

  • @alexisrios9127
    @alexisrios91272 жыл бұрын

    Hi I have a 212 tractor how do you open the point? By turning the key of the ignition? I know you said crankshaft but I don’t know where it is.

  • @MDC2020
    @MDC20206 жыл бұрын

    I just got my coil and points from you and hooked everything up and now I don't have any spark, I rechecked the points gap, and the gap in the plug and everything checks out. Any ideas?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    6 жыл бұрын

    Give our office a call on Monday.

  • @KC-jq9kw
    @KC-jq9kw4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @mr.mg428mm2
    @mr.mg428mm27 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @JRoberts1260
    @JRoberts12608 жыл бұрын

    Nice upload brother I'm working on a 1970 JD110 with the 7HP Kohler, its been running terrible so I removed the carb and soaked it cleaned it with tip cleaner and blew it out it was running yesterday and today no spark. Its pouring out now so I got to wait to do this.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    +JRoberts1260 Thank you. Often times with these old carburetors the throttle shafts get worn and let in air throwing yoru air fuel mixture off. If cleaning your carburetor doesn't help you may want to replace it. We sell the correct carburetor for your engine. Regarding the no spark. The most common reason I have found for no spark in my customers is improper gap setting or worn points. We sell those too if you need them. Good luck and thank you for saving the tractors! I love those round fender JD 110's! Classic!

  • @JRoberts1260

    @JRoberts1260

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yea I can see that on the primary throttle butterfly, Cant justify the cost of a new carb at the moment. or purchasing the points but I did check them as per your video and they are in spec now, actually have two old tractors a JD110, and a cub cadet from the mid 60s its carb is soaking but also no spasrk on that girl either....As time and finances allow ill get em both up and running.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    JRoberts1260 Let me know if you need any help with anything. Thank you for saving the tractors!

  • @gregoryguza4623
    @gregoryguza46237 жыл бұрын

    I actually bought an ignition coil from you guys last year for my 1977 John Deere 208. Does the .020 point gap also apply to the K181s engine?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gregory Guza yes it sure does! thank you for your business. let me know if you have anymore questions

  • @Mike-su8si

    @Mike-su8si

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll be guessing all the way and by looks

  • @goodboyringo9716
    @goodboyringo97163 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever changed the left side crankshaft / block seal , seen at time 3:50 without removing the crankshaft? I have a leak in that seal and was wondering just how difficult it would be or if it can be done before I try without removing the crank..

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I have. You can screw in a couple of small drywall type screws. Screw them into the seal and use pliers to yank it out.

  • @adamhaffner6619
    @adamhaffner66197 жыл бұрын

    As I was trying to take the cover off the points the wire fed thru the cover popped loose... I crimped back on a new U connector but I can't tell where it went... In looking at video it appears to be under lower screw, facing slightly downward. Please confirm, thanks for the help!

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    The wire clips to the little screw that is affixed to the piece of metal spring material.

  • @nguyenhaphuonglam3459
    @nguyenhaphuonglam34593 жыл бұрын

    Very nice

  • @showersw
    @showersw5 жыл бұрын

    I was told I probably have a flat spot on the cam and either need too replace it or weld a little where the plunger hits cam so it will push it in and out again.

  • @andytheguy5076
    @andytheguy50765 жыл бұрын

    $ bills work very very good at cleaning points

  • @JT-vj6id
    @JT-vj6id7 жыл бұрын

    I have a Wheel Horse C-105 with a Koehler KS241as 10 hp. I can only get it running with starting fluid for a few seconds. One time I was able to keep it running for a few minutes with the choke on, but that was only once. I replaced the fuel pump first & that was not it. Then I cleaned the carburetor & that was not it. Could the gap being off be a reason for starting only with starting fluid & then stopping shortly after? Do you think I need to tear it down? Any help would greatly be appreciated! Thank you!

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    JT122004 yes your timing could be off but it's more likely an issue with your valves. check out your valve clearances

  • @hugonz7704
    @hugonz77047 жыл бұрын

    Such hope you correct my English, I have a Kohler K331 do not know if I made the coil connected to the capacitor well as three cables, a cable the delgadoestá bolted to the chassis, the medium connect it to the condenser where they are losplatinos and the thicker is connected to the spark plug, the problem is that it does spark the spark plug but no electricity because approaching the cable highlights spark but also not sure that this sharp cam as electrical pulses are unopor turn give full and say that the end of the combustion cycle sack two sparks and think it should be a spark, what do you think is the problem?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    I am not completely understanding your problem but check out the following links for more information on the wiring of your ignition system: isavetractors.com/articles-1/

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith51668 жыл бұрын

    Hello. I've got a 66 Deere 110 with the k181s. Does anyone know where the timing sight hole is? It's a bit hard for me to tell max point gap by sight. I'm also wondering if it might be possible to determine wear on the lobe by measuring the movement of the timing pin with a runout gauge, and then comparing it with the movement of the pin of a known good cam. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

  • @michaelsimpkins631

    @michaelsimpkins631

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably not a worn cam Probably worn plunger

  • @Reeser00
    @Reeser005 жыл бұрын

    If my points need replaced, what will my engine symptoms be? Mine is reving when I have it w.o. It idles fine?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    5 жыл бұрын

    Typically the engine will knock and run erratically. Your situation may be related to your governor or carburetor or both

  • @DavidGiblerpeilimocom
    @DavidGiblerpeilimocom8 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I am replacing coil, plugs, carb, condenser and points on a K582. Your video is about to save me time and unnecessary damage due to frustration. The only suggestion I would make is the lighting could have been a little brighter. I could see what you were teaching well enough, but I like to compare everything on my points to yours. Like the wire from the coil , I believe I had that incorrect. Thank you for posting.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment! I have since upgraded my lighting situation. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @quealart

    @quealart

    8 жыл бұрын

    I am also trying to get a Kohler K582 /K7000 Generator to start with no luck so far. I replaced the coil, plugs, fuel pump and Fuel filter. Cranks, no spark. lookedat/cleaned points, has very little movement at points, I adjusted but still no spark. If the condensor is bad would that prevent it from starting?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    A bad condenser would cause your points to wear a lot faster. Check all safety devices and wiring to make sure they are all working.

  • @DavidGiblerpeilimocom

    @DavidGiblerpeilimocom

    8 жыл бұрын

    What are you setting the gap at? Have you tried a test lite at the coil? Is there any power anywhere? I had to replace the wire from the coil to the points as it had become crunchy from decades of heat. The clip that screws to the points had to be replaced. Finally, does your battery have a fresh charge?

  • @quealart

    @quealart

    8 жыл бұрын

    I don't have the gap tool, wire looks ancient. that's a good suggestion to replace. no spark at points/plug .has power at starter,cranks has fuel. i don't know how to disable oil sens/ fuel sens if those are disabling start.

  • @dianadafoe6302
    @dianadafoe63024 жыл бұрын

    thats for the help

  • @georgespangler1517
    @georgespangler15175 жыл бұрын

    Very good how to vedio, no bullshit,,,good camera positioning and well spoken,,,Thanks,,I just learned A lot about the compressor engine that runs a 4 cylinder speedaire I'm restoring,,,

  • @Moondog9322
    @Moondog93226 жыл бұрын

    Good video! Does it matter which direction you turn the crankshaft to get the points to open at their widest ? Thanks!

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    6 жыл бұрын

    No it doesn't matter but as a matter of reference these engines normally turn clockwise when looking at the flywheel end.

  • @Moondog9322

    @Moondog9322

    6 жыл бұрын

    isavetractors Gotcha. Thanks again. My Cub Cadet runs really rough at mid to higher speeds so I'll check the points and see what happens.

  • @mada94fxr
    @mada94fxr7 жыл бұрын

    Norman. Have you ever had a bad set of NEW Kohler OEM points. I had that issue this morning. Thankfully, I had another new set on the shelf. It drove me nuts for 45 minutes trying to set them with a multi meter before I figured out they didn't have continuity. Anyhow, I love your videos. Keep them coming.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    Hi There, contact points are often stored with a protective coating on them to prevent them from rusting. Try spraying carb cleaner on it and rub them with regular computer paper, that should fix it for you.

  • @mada94fxr

    @mada94fxr

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I'll give that a try. But, the good set is in and timed. So, they will go back on the shelf if they prove good. Question for you. I notice that you have used parts on your site. Do you run across used K341 heads? When I got this motor, the plug was stripped out, so I TIG welded it and re tapped and it's held for 8 years. But, I would like to have a good one as a spare just in case this one lets loose again. Also, I need the correct governor linkage spring. I can't find one on line anywhere. Thanks for your quick response. Mark

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    We have the governor linkage spring. check this out :isavetractors.com/springs/ We also do sell the K341 heads but we are sold out right now. When we get them, they sell really quickly. Buy points from us in the future. They will always be good! Let me know if you need anything else in the future.

  • @mada94fxr

    @mada94fxr

    7 жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT. Thanks

  • @margarethernandez5946
    @margarethernandez59463 жыл бұрын

    Hi Norman hi Norman this is Richard Wiki from San Antonio Texas

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Richard. Send me an email info@isavetractors.com

  • @ironleatherwood1357
    @ironleatherwood13574 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Norman

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome!

  • @pbc1951
    @pbc19512 жыл бұрын

    If I wanted to advance my timing just a tad, would I go with a wider gap or smaller gap?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    2 жыл бұрын

    You would want a smaller gap to advance timing

  • @huuot
    @huuot Жыл бұрын

    Well made out side of the engine...would you know the splak plug number for 16 hp cooler 1 cylinder like this one ???

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    Жыл бұрын

    We recommend the Champion H10C plug.

  • @ballzmahonee5645
    @ballzmahonee56456 жыл бұрын

    I have a k241 10 hp in my John deere. You guys sell kits for rebuild?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Steve Townsender yes we do. Check them out at www.isavetractors.com

  • @jasonwilliams2155
    @jasonwilliams21554 жыл бұрын

    Which way should a 14 hp Kohler rotation be looking at the front cover? Counter clockwise or clockwise

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    4 жыл бұрын

    Clockwise when looking at the flywheel

  • @CrisisGuildWOW
    @CrisisGuildWOW4 жыл бұрын

    Great Video! Question, when the points are in the closed position are they then grounded to the engine block? Working with an electrical problem, and this is where I traced the ground coming from.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes that's correct!

  • @CrisisGuildWOW

    @CrisisGuildWOW

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors and should I be able to read that ground thru the coil on the opposite side?

  • @michaelvrooman5681

    @michaelvrooman5681

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CrisisGuildWOW if the coil is good, then yes, you will have a ohm reading or a pratial ground on both of the primary connections of the coil.

  • @CrisisGuildWOW

    @CrisisGuildWOW

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelvrooman5681 thank you.

  • @ad356
    @ad3568 жыл бұрын

    the procedure you are showing is the static procedure there is another way. dynamic procedure. you can time a kohler with a timing light. on the side of the blower housing there is a plug. spin the flywheel by hand, there is a timing mark. mark that timing machine with a white paint marker so you can see it. start the engine, the light should strobe the same time the mark comes into view of the hole. both methods actually work, but i think the dynamic is a little more accurate.

  • @outdoor044
    @outdoor0443 жыл бұрын

    Is it ok to use fine sand paper to clean the points? I thought that's what people always say to do. Or is that too aggressive?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    3 жыл бұрын

    Too aggressive. I just used a folded up dollar bill.

  • @JessicaGarcia-ew1ue
    @JessicaGarcia-ew1ue5 жыл бұрын

    thnx

  • @grimlboge848
    @grimlboge8488 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I was hoping to find an objective test to check the points and tell me good or no good. I have worked through coil and it is ok, condenser tests ok, but new spark plug (no spark), (starter, ok). Is this where I should just get the new points? (JD K301, 212, 1981)==Very well presented!!!

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Grimlbog E You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed my video. You can test your points by making sure they have continuity. Close your point while on the engine and touch the wire side of the points and engine ground and make sure your continuity tester shows continuity. If not, inspect your points and clean off any debris that may be on it. If there is no continuity your ignition coil will not produce a high voltage spark. Also make sure your point gap is correct. The most common reason for no spark is the points. I recommend replacing it. We sell it on our website. If new points don't fix your problem, you may need to remove your oil pan and inspect your camshaft for wear.

  • @grimlboge848

    @grimlboge848

    8 жыл бұрын

    +isavetractors Thanks!---will give it a try.

  • @quealart
    @quealart8 жыл бұрын

    isavetractors or anyone who knows - Question here, - I got my Kohler k582 /k7000 generator working by running a wire with in line switch from Batt+ to the ign. coil. It ran well for a week or so and then quit under load and now won't start, will crank. Did I burn up the coil by "hotwiring" it, Is it supposed to be running through a voltage reducer that I bypassed? Also the quit could have happened because of 1/4 tank fuel RV cutoff function. If that's the case, why wont it start now that there is gas in the tank? Do you think there's air where it shouldn't be in carb etc.? squirts gas when line is opened after fuel pump. Has new coil, condenser, points, plugs. (earlier -pre -start problem) the new plugs fouled quickly after accidentally running it at half choke a few times, cleaned them but still no start). Thanks-

  • @quealart

    @quealart

    8 жыл бұрын

    If the coil has power and points /condenser are fine, has fuel, what else would make it not start - RV low fuel sensor?/ low oil sensor - I disconnected oil sens. and no difference, I don't know how to override low fuel sens.

  • @quealart

    @quealart

    8 жыл бұрын

    Got it working! one of the wires on the positive side of coil was acting as a kill wire, (maybe a short?) when removed it, starts right up and runs strong, Awesome!

  • @quealart
    @quealart8 жыл бұрын

    I don't have the gap tool, wire looks ancient. that's a good suggestion. no spark at points/plug .has power at starter,cranks has fuel

  • @luvstruck2733
    @luvstruck27337 жыл бұрын

    Do they make an electronic ignition for these engines? I have a 1978 Power King Economy,with a 10 h.p. Kohler engine. It may need a transmission. Somebody broke the gearshift off of it. I haven't pulled the top off yet, but was told the whole sheet metal housing has to come off.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    7 жыл бұрын

    Luvstruck our friend Brian Miller sells an electronic ignition kit. visit his website www.gardentractorpullingtips.com

  • @luvstruck2733

    @luvstruck2733

    7 жыл бұрын

    What a great website www.gardentractorpullingtips.com/index.htm The diagrams are excellent, sometimes hand drawn, and easy to read. The writing in the articles, is down to earth, just like he is talking to you. His prices are good, and he has the explanations, most websites lack. This site delivers.

  • @artbentley4887
    @artbentley4887 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I have a ckm21 kohler. It started running terrible especially when I put a load on it. I changed points, condenser and gapped 20 thousand. Still ran lousy. Pulled carb and sonic cleaned it and still bogs under a load. The motor only has about 150 hrs on it. What do I check next???

  • @ericwittersheim

    @ericwittersheim

    6 ай бұрын

    That's the same problem I'm having with my K301. Did you ever figure it out?

  • @ironhorsevinnie
    @ironhorsevinnie Жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @Mike-su8si
    @Mike-su8si3 жыл бұрын

    I'll be using something else to set mine because I'm lacking some tools so something with the same thickness of that tool will do And valve cleaner spray because its been sitting for so many years a little wetness will loosen it up I'm sure it need all new parts on mine

  • @python357magnum100
    @python357magnum1008 жыл бұрын

    I have a Kohler 341K and I think the points pushrod is to short, maybe changed by someone. The one I took out measures 1.541 do you know how long it should be ? Thanks

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    It should be 1.550" Your camshaft may have a groove worn into it throwing it off.

  • @python357magnum100

    @python357magnum100

    8 жыл бұрын

    isavetractors Thanks for the quick reply. I think you're right on the groove in the shaft. I have round stock the exact diameter,I'm thinking of making it 1.650 because I don't have any adjustment left on the points. What are your thoughts on making it .100 longer ?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    Brian Miller sells special points plungers with a wide foot. This plunger will allow it to ride on the unworn part of the camshaft. check out gardentractorpullingtips.com/ignition.htm His website is super old school and difficult to navigate but he has some great solutions for a worn camshaft. When you need other parts please think of us!

  • @python357magnum100

    @python357magnum100

    8 жыл бұрын

    isavetractors Thank you, I will !

  • @ballzmahonee5645

    @ballzmahonee5645

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ivan Bentley Claymore push rrod?

  • @snapperman8461
    @snapperman84618 жыл бұрын

    is this the same procedure on a kohler kt series which is the opposed twin version of the k series?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes same procedure.

  • @snapperman8461

    @snapperman8461

    8 жыл бұрын

    ive got the wheel horse 4178 with the kohler kt 17 series II and it was running perfect for about an hour and i cut it off to refuel it and it wouldnt start. it would crank but no spark. could that be why?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    Points going out of adjustment is a common reason. Another common reason is your spark plug is really dirty. Best diagnostic tip is to start with the easiest and work your way up. First make sure all of your safety switches are disengaged. I.E. Seat Safety, PTO Safety, Brake/Clutch Safety. Then check wiring, then points, then spark plug.

  • @snapperman8461

    @snapperman8461

    8 жыл бұрын

    well i check the coil and i got nothing but i pulled all the heat shields and covers off it today to clean all the gunk off the engine and i pulled the points cover off and they look descent. you can tell they havent been cleaned before but doesnt need to be. ill clean them and throw a battery in there and see what happens. i hope its not the coil.$243.

  • @mjperez402
    @mjperez4028 жыл бұрын

    Hi I've a 301 off of a 212 , my issue is that it started to loose power on high idle but on low idle it's ok , one thing I notice is when I put an external charger on it runs better thank you

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Digging for a living I suggest first checking your Spark Plug, make sure it's in good condition, and gapped correctly. Then check your points, and air filter. If you have a badly clogged air filter your engine will not produce the power it should. Your engine needs 13 parts of air per 1 part of fuel. So Air is very important! Start there, and let me know if you need more assistance.

  • @mjperez402

    @mjperez402

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the good advice , I did realize how important air fuel mix could be but now it makes sense thanks again I'll check it this weekend

  • @einarrorvik4135
    @einarrorvik41354 жыл бұрын

    A folded up dollar bill works great for cleaning the points

  • @dougalexander7204
    @dougalexander72045 жыл бұрын

    I recently inherited a Wheelhorse tractor, that has been painted over and used by a High School marching band. Further, it has sat under a tarp for a year or so. I’m not sure but I’m guessing it is s 1974, k C160 with k series Koehler engine and automatic (hydrostatic) transmission. I’m not sure how to correctly identify it, but I’m working on it. It doesn’t run and I find no spark at the plug. I will try to test the coil then go to the points and condenser. Any insight you may have would be greatly appreciated.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    5 жыл бұрын

    Check out our video on Tractor Wiring. That should give you some additional insight. Good luck with your project!

  • @coreythesmallengineman4565

    @coreythesmallengineman4565

    5 жыл бұрын

    i have a 1974 wheelhorse c160 tractor as well it was given to me by a friend when i first got it it would turn over but have no spark at the spark plug so i decided to replace my coil and that fixed it but it could also be that you dont have a hot wire going to the positive side of the coil therefore leading to no spark how you test this is you turn your key to on and then push a flathead scredriver between your points if it makes a spark when you touch the points its getting power if you dont get a spark then it has no power to the coil therefore no power to the points

  • @mackendw
    @mackendw5 жыл бұрын

    trying to get my new points set (from isavetractors) on my jd 210. when I loosen the screw and put the .020 feeler guage in between the position and then tighten the screw down, when I remove the feeler guage, the gap closes....so, I'm obviously not doing something correctly. I turned over the crank with the plug out and moving the ribbed area on the drivers left side of the motor and turned it until the plunger was out its furtheset. is that correct?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    5 жыл бұрын

    You're doing it right. It can just take a little knack to get it at exactly 020. The act of tightening the screw can close the gap a tiny bit so just tweak the point opening with your wrist a little Tighten and then double check

  • @mackendw

    @mackendw

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors I'll fiddle with it in the morning. lost light...if I have 12V at the positive side of the coil with key on...it *SHOULD* be able to provide spark from the coil to the points and then to the plug...correct?

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @mackendw

    @mackendw

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors OK, I think I have them set to .020 again. With the plunger out as far as it will go I have a gap in between the point of this value. But still no spark... I'm getting 12V at the coil. with key on .... what does this mean then? Have these parts I bought failed? if so, that cannot be normal....

  • @mackendw

    @mackendw

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors question on the points wire installation. Is the wire installed on the phillips head screw to exit the bottom left corner or the top right? when I connect the wire to the points, for it to fit on the grooved plastic part with the metal flange it has to fit on a downward path. ie: I don't want to bend the wire to have it exit the bottom left. is this correct?

  • @Mark-zz9rt
    @Mark-zz9rt4 жыл бұрын

    Norman my kt17 is leaking oil at the plunger. Is there a seal on the plunger?

  • @tuckerbuzzell1882
    @tuckerbuzzell18822 жыл бұрын

    The plunger on mine is not moving what could this be from

  • @mykee426
    @mykee426 Жыл бұрын

    I've got a 1972 JD 110 with a Kohler K181 8hp engine and it has a stator magneto and I can't find a stator anywhere, only the magneto. Do the stators go bad? And is that why lots of people switch them over to have an outside coil pack? I would love to get a brand new stator for it but I have no idea where to look. Google and eBay have been zero luck for me so far.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea the magneto systems can be harder to come by and hard to Service since you have to remove the engine from the machine in many cases.

  • @mykee426

    @mykee426

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors can you help me find one? I'm not having much luck at all. Trying to save this tractors life and keep it in the family.

  • @keithmassie
    @keithmassie4 жыл бұрын

    That works pretty good, but I like setting them with a test light better.

  • @Mike-su8si

    @Mike-su8si

    3 жыл бұрын

    How you do that

  • @padrogutierrez6257
    @padrogutierrez62574 жыл бұрын

    Were did you get ponts at

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    4 жыл бұрын

    Isavetractors.com

  • @M.TTT.
    @M.TTT.4 жыл бұрын

    Sent you an email, but are the points outside the engine like that on most kohlers? I have a simplicity 6517 with a mv18 vertical engine I believe - lots of parts missing so hard to tell.

  • @Isavetractors

    @Isavetractors

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. The MV18 engines do not use points. Instead they use a solid state ignition system.

  • @M.TTT.

    @M.TTT.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors hmm well that's good to know, it's an opposed twin and it seems like it has spark, but maybe theres a timing adjustment I can do? I dont know if it's for sure a mv18 because there was no engine cover

  • @M.TTT.

    @M.TTT.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors is it supposed to have that large ignition coil cylinder with 2 wires going to it thing to start it? Right now it has no battery, no starter, wiring is cut up.

  • @M.TTT.

    @M.TTT.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors well I got a new magneto and slapped the old, crusty, missing parts carb on and threw some gas in it and it turned over! I'll have to look into getting parts for this carb or maybe get the one you sell.

  • @M.TTT.

    @M.TTT.

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Isavetractors have you ever rebuilt a Kohler vertical shaft opposed twin? If I did strip it down I'm afraid of not being able to get new parts or gaskets if I break them

  • @aw2787
    @aw2787Ай бұрын

    Fuckin awesome channel and website man thank you