How T-14 Armata Lost The Best Gun

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When T-14 Armata was first revealed to the public it was almost immediately known that there are plans to upgrade to the new 152mm 2A83 gun, but as the time went on it became apparent that even if that was the case, it is not going to happen any time soon, since the tank is not yet even in the active service. Today we are going to talk about the actual gun T-14 was suppose to get, why it didn't get it and what are the plans for the future.
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  • @RedEffectChannel
    @RedEffectChannel4 жыл бұрын

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  • @SK-ik9mc

    @SK-ik9mc

    4 жыл бұрын

    RedEffect discord server plz?

  • @IonorReasSpamGenerator

    @IonorReasSpamGenerator

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just a note, is your statement that older ammunition will perform better from the newer and longer gun in T-14 a fact or assumption? Because older munition was designed with the older gun in mind, so it was designed to be aerodynamically efficient and accurate at certain muzzle velocities, but if you change the muzzle speed of APFSDS projectile, results may not be higher penetration but lower accuracy due to higher drag as shock cone from supersonic speed will form differently at different speeds, this is the same as if you expect that jetliner will fly beyond speed of sound just because you give it more powerful engine, you cannot expect a better performance of ammunition just because you shoot it from a longer gun and this is also because of the propellant... As the propellant in ammunition was designed to push for a certain length of a barrel, it may not even have properties to bring higher velocities through a longer barrel for which such munition propellant was not designed in a first place (it would be wasteful to introduce more propellant or higher pressures than current barrels length can utilize just because in future they may be longer). So, while the longer barrel is often associated with the longer range in generally lower-pressure artillery pieces, it is not an assured for much faster hypervelocity tank rounds launched from high-pressure barrels, generally you can expect the same performance, at worst even reduction in accuracy...

  • @babute21

    @babute21

    4 жыл бұрын

    i register i play, it fun, thank redeffect

  • @vonmillardmanalastas7524

    @vonmillardmanalastas7524

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry for not asking this Earlier, but what music do you use for the Sponser Part from the Beginining of the Video and before talking about the topic of the video?

  • @zacht9447

    @zacht9447

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean america has been working on a higher caliber mbt since the 80s with the M1 Thumper

  • @cursedcliff7562
    @cursedcliff75624 жыл бұрын

    We were this close to greatness *The KV-2-2*

  • @maxim6088

    @maxim6088

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tbh... I think that if the t14 gets mass-produced ,we will see Russians start producing the chassis with the 152mm turret, as soon as newer American and German tanks start coming out... Since the armata chassis is designed to be able to have the turret and armour changed very easily and cheaper than one would expect.

  • @ulfenburg7539

    @ulfenburg7539

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arvedludwig3584 they have said they are working on a new tank and it will be released 2025 if I remember correctly and why don't they need an L55? all it gives is improvments

  • @strawberrybleach7715

    @strawberrybleach7715

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arvedludwig3584 Did the US refuse to use the L55?. When and why did they do this

  • @deathdragon2283

    @deathdragon2283

    4 жыл бұрын

    Strawberry Bleach the extra velocity gained by the L55 would be detrimental to the penetration of the APFSDS used by the US. Atleast again heavy ERA. This is because of how the APFSDS is designed to defeat this ERA. The m829A3 has a steel tip that is made to be broken off by the ERA. In order to do this it has to be long enough to keep the ERA flyer plate from hitting the DU rod behind it. however the longer you make to steel tip, the shorter the DU penetrator will be. so the US calculated the perfect length needed for the steel tip using the velocity of the projectile and the specifications of the ERA it’s meant to go against. If the speed of the projectile is increased, more if the penetrator will be fed into the path of the ERA flyer plate. Which will result in the DU penetrator being impacted by it, which will decrease its penetration. There are theories that the new m829a4 projectile found a way around this problem by using a datalink to separate the steel tip from the DU penetrator a certain distance in front of the target. Causing the steel tip to fly ahead and initiate ERA before the DU penetrator reaches the target. Thus allowing higher velocities

  • @maxim6088

    @maxim6088

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arvedludwig3584 maybe they are more focused on navy and air, but the 120mm will struggle against the Armata, so they might have to get a 125,130,or 135 going, or something

  • @LegaRoSS
    @LegaRoSS4 жыл бұрын

    But you never mentioned the durability and the amount of shots 152mm could do comparing to 125, cos if o remember correctly its about half. And those brought the cost per shot issue with the more expensive maintenance of 152 and higher frequency of the maintenance itself... not mentioning the logistics and mass production of new ammo. So it sounds like not very reasonable thing to do.

  • @viktoriyaserebryakov2755

    @viktoriyaserebryakov2755

    4 жыл бұрын

    He did mention having to develop new ammo. It might not be the time for the 152mm but bigger guns are inevitable.

  • @LegaRoSS

    @LegaRoSS

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 you should check how does comma works.. "But you never mentioned the durability and the amount of shots 152mm could do comparing to 125" that was finished part of the sentence, next was explanation.

  • @REgamesplayer

    @REgamesplayer

    4 жыл бұрын

    He did mentioned that 152 mm gun barrel can sustain a lot higher pressures meaning that it is more durable than 125 mm barrel.

  • @user-pq9gy3fq1q

    @user-pq9gy3fq1q

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@REgamesplayer no it just means it can use harder ammunition

  • @user-pq9gy3fq1q

    @user-pq9gy3fq1q

    4 жыл бұрын

    125 is more or less reasonable, you want to avoid bigger ammunition, as speed is easier to increase than weight.

  • @sneakybuddy8084
    @sneakybuddy80844 жыл бұрын

    Look how they have massacred my boy...

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    4 жыл бұрын

    Still a great tank to have in 1914 There should be a time-travel movie or novel in which Modern Russia sends back T-14s, AK- 12s Su-35s and RPG-32s to WW1 Russia! Imagine the faces of Germans and Austrian-Hungarians when they see the Russians with advanced military equipment WW1 is over in a month and the Armenian Genocide is averted. There is no Russian Civil War or Stalin Soviet Union

  • @RedVRCC

    @RedVRCC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Give Germany Leopard 2A7s and HK416s too then.

  • @elluvitesmith9137

    @elluvitesmith9137

    4 жыл бұрын

    our boy

  • @proximacentauri3627

    @proximacentauri3627

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@christiandauz3742 Conrad Von Hoetzendorf would learn about the Russian magic weapons and still think it's a great idea to throw all his men into an offensive. The Germans are another story though, expect to get reverse engineered.

  • @runi5413

    @runi5413

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@christiandauz3742 There'sactually already a movie like that, bro 😅 It's called _The Final Countdown_ , and it's about a "modern" [1980's] U.S. aircraft carrier that gets sent back in time to 1941.

  • @EvoSwatch
    @EvoSwatch4 жыл бұрын

    Gaijin: How many ads you want? How many? RedEffect: Yes. I will take your entire stock!

  • @alissa2791

    @alissa2791

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes A man of culture

  • @aksmex2576

    @aksmex2576

    4 жыл бұрын

    nah, let the man make money, he makes good videos, you can skip if you don't like the ads like everyone.

  • @darklysm8345

    @darklysm8345

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aksmex2576 no.

  • @captaindak5119

    @captaindak5119

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aksmex2576 agreed

  • @armenpetrosyan6000

    @armenpetrosyan6000

    4 жыл бұрын

    war thunder is great tho... crossout too much better than wargaming imo

  • @midgetman4206
    @midgetman42064 жыл бұрын

    man, imagine what the people of WWII would think of when 120mm cannons are "to small"

  • @ikill-98

    @ikill-98

    4 жыл бұрын

    You play video games too much people in ww2 dont give a fuck abou gun caliber if the gun do a big bomb then its good you only found high caliber gun in naval ship only Tanks at that time uses like 75 76 85 88 100 barely 122 mm the 152 more like artillery

  • @paulchristensen2854

    @paulchristensen2854

    4 жыл бұрын

    Russians had 120 mm guns on their tanks in WW2.....IS 1-2 and 3 had 122 mm gun at end of the war. Some of the the KV-1s [1940 - 45] were mounted with a 152mm gun. While it is classed as a self propelled gun the ISU had a 156 mm gun from 1943 on. It seems the Russians saw the benefits of "bigger is better" before the western allies by several years even during WW2

  • @midgetman4206

    @midgetman4206

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ikill-98 that is what i am talking about... those guns were used as infantry support, until other tanks started using bigger shells and bigger armor, then they started to require a bigger gun too. I'm not that stupid

  • @unnecessaryammorack

    @unnecessaryammorack

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@paulchristensen2854 Russians never used 120mm and the KV-2 is what had the 152mm. Also the ISU had the 152mm as well not a 156mm. The only WW2 era tank I can think of the used a 120mm was the American T34 tank that never entered service because the war ended before it could. They were also working on the T30 which had a 155mm.

  • @Firespectrum122

    @Firespectrum122

    7 ай бұрын

    @@unnecessaryammorack I think he means the 122mm used on the IS series of tanks.

  • @hartleyransom-leland5872
    @hartleyransom-leland58724 жыл бұрын

    You should make a video about hard kill APS or maybe discuss instances of tanks in combat like in Ukraine or the Yom Kippur War or something

  • @localdrugseller6431

    @localdrugseller6431

    4 жыл бұрын

    +1 to this. Turkey also suffered a lot from not having APS in syria.

  • @MykolaSternenkoDroneBoyHoleMan

    @MykolaSternenkoDroneBoyHoleMan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ruskies got their arses handled in Ukraine

  • @lazarjovanovic4388

    @lazarjovanovic4388

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MykolaSternenkoDroneBoyHoleMan no they did not

  • @Archer89201

    @Archer89201

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MykolaSternenkoDroneBoyHoleMan that is why they have Crimea and Donetsk and Lughansk are autonomous?

  • @hartleyransom-leland5872

    @hartleyransom-leland5872

    4 жыл бұрын

    Flute Jaeger Doesn't seem to be so

  • @sway9725
    @sway97254 жыл бұрын

    Maybe its gonna find it if it searches long enough

  • @muanlaltunglut6460

    @muanlaltunglut6460

    4 жыл бұрын

    A for effort

  • @liberator101

    @liberator101

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hahahahahahhahah, good one

  • @pussyslayer2295
    @pussyslayer22954 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, can you do a video about the Rheinmetall 130mm L/51 gun?

  • @HanSolo__

    @HanSolo__

    3 жыл бұрын

    How is the 152mm countering 130mm if the 130 is only 5mm bigger than current long 125mm? You will not notice the size difference while 152mm gun is almost double in its size compared to 120 or 125.

  • @pussyslayer2295

    @pussyslayer2295

    3 жыл бұрын

    MrKansai1 teghe I see that you have no clue what you‘re talking about

  • @dwwolf4636

    @dwwolf4636

    3 жыл бұрын

    120mm vs 130mm on the western side. But a similar performance boost could also be gotten from an 120m ETC gun.

  • @HanSolo__

    @HanSolo__

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pussyslayer2295 I have perfect knowledge on what Im talking about. Im asking if Russian barrels are such shit or is it just a political case. I dont even need to go along with technical data. But dont bother, can nail that anytime, anywhere. I love how not even one can get the idea that making caliber 25% bigger works for energy of projectile close to double the kJ. Of course with following 25% longer barrel. Please, tell me where my math is wrong. Where I have no idea on the subject. So I could easily smash your face on the wall with answer..

  • @Unknown-we9is

    @Unknown-we9is

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HanSolo__ bruh the guy aint doin nothing

  • @shashanksekuri7231
    @shashanksekuri72314 жыл бұрын

    Arjun tank gun is actually an orbital death laser designed to destroy planets(better than t 14)

  • @dholdiperthemvp1839

    @dholdiperthemvp1839

    4 жыл бұрын

    Planets? U mean galaxies right?

  • @shaf3006

    @shaf3006

    4 жыл бұрын

    💩 🤣😅😆

  • @shashanksekuri7231

    @shashanksekuri7231

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dholdiperthemvp1839 shhh it's classified......

  • @defenceosprey983

    @defenceosprey983

    4 жыл бұрын

    What type of problem you people have with Arjun

  • @shashanksekuri7231

    @shashanksekuri7231

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@defenceosprey983 we don't have any problems ,Arjun has a lot of problems

  • @91plm
    @91plm4 жыл бұрын

    Red Effect: "M14 Armata Canon might become obsolete" ARJUNK MBT: *Sweats profoundly*

  • @ChandranPrema123

    @ChandranPrema123

    Жыл бұрын

    That tanks Gun despite being a 120mm has performance of a less than 105mm

  • @IzakSemrdoii

    @IzakSemrdoii

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ChandranPrema123 source

  • @wojtekimbier
    @wojtekimbier4 жыл бұрын

    Last time I was this early Russia was going to buy hundreds of T-14's by 2019

  • @smokecrackhailsatan

    @smokecrackhailsatan

    4 жыл бұрын

    haha OPEC go BRRRRR

  • @yosawin3018

    @yosawin3018

    4 жыл бұрын

    They need money,they must fix their economy first,in order to get more funds.

  • @whiskeyactual.

    @whiskeyactual.

    4 жыл бұрын

    *insert angry russia fanboi ReeeeeeEEEEEE

  • @TheGranicd

    @TheGranicd

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@whiskeyactual. Dont take news outlets with no source as relevant and you wont think that.

  • @yosawin3018

    @yosawin3018

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Bleagle but it still take time(it also depends on the situation that Russia faces) and the Russians might need to make some adjustments to improve to design,maybe give it back up gunner's sight (I've heard that it's not on the tank),but the design's very good indeed,(anyway is that true that they've considered putting 152mm. on this thing, wouldn't it take more money and resources to develop Ammunitions for the new gun?) I hope they'd somehow fix their economy to make the development smoother and faster.

  • @mkgaming990
    @mkgaming9904 жыл бұрын

    Every Tank To Red Effect will say that he is our best friend because a true friend always shows defects to get safe.

  • @normalsabatonfan3077

    @normalsabatonfan3077

    4 жыл бұрын

    He knows tank technology more than Alpha defense

  • @HeLpEr4u083

    @HeLpEr4u083

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@normalsabatonfan3077 Primo Victoria, dunundudndudndu

  • @DefinitelyNotAnAddict

    @DefinitelyNotAnAddict

    4 жыл бұрын

    He's still insanely baised

  • @mkgaming990

    @mkgaming990

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@normalsabatonfan3077 bro curiosity makes these guy perfect one

  • @imperialguardsman5929

    @imperialguardsman5929

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DefinitelyNotAnAddict elaborate please oh wise guy

  • @wudruffwildcard252
    @wudruffwildcard2522 жыл бұрын

    Yeah 150mm gun is just for scare. Because bigger calibers come with a serious disadvantage. Less ammunition on board! That is why intelligent tank producers only go for a bigger round when it is absolutely necessary and with a smaller round the opponent can't be defeated!

  • @andrewwang8204
    @andrewwang82043 жыл бұрын

    2A83 is more of a wonder weapon more than anything, as it would be simply miles ahead of any tank guns. Hope to see Russians pick up on that with their upgraded T14. Because we all know the KV-2 caliber is best caliber.

  • @TheDemigans

    @TheDemigans

    11 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, because no one thought of doing this ever. There are no artillery systems with such calibers that showcase the problems with very large guns that need to be overcome to have an effective direct fire weapon capable of withstanding repeated shots without extensive maintenance. Something especially Russia is well known for. “Put bigger gun on it” isn’t new. Russia used to have artillery sized guns on some of its cold war tanks and there’s reasons why they moved away from those. Its the same reasons that the West gradually increases its sizes (same as Russia). Incremental improvements let them increase it more effectively than just slapping artillery guns on a tank.

  • @Firespectrum122

    @Firespectrum122

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheDemigans No need to get mad, dude. Russian tanks are a) known for their reliability & easy maintenance and b) they already tested the gun on Object 292 where they reported that the recoil was barely any different to the original 125mm gun, surprising everyone. The maintenance issues that you speak of are simply non-existent. Putting bigger on it may not be new, but it is certainly an advantage. The kinetic energy increase and higher weight of APFSDS projectiles will increase armour penetration exponentially.

  • @TheDemigans

    @TheDemigans

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Firespectrum122 I’m not mad. Why would I be mad? And that recoil story is a fabrication. The length of the shells is easily between 20 to 33% difference already for many shells so that is already the extra mass you have to deal with and even if you assume similar length the increase in diameter is also a 35% increase in mass. That mass adds recoil even if you use the same amount of propellant. This is physics (tm). Not “write whatever you damn well please” (tm). Also those maintenance issues don’t just go away. You say the Russian tanks are easy to maintain but that does not mean that slapping a high-maintenance diameter gun will instantly make it go “oh this is a Russian tank I’ll reduce the amount of maintenance I need”. Also you seem to be missing a rather important distinction, “easy to maintain” just means you need less advanced degrees to work on a tank, it does not mean you need LESS maintenance. And despite this rugged reputation the Russians have attempted to build up we know from people who use Russian tanks (like Ukraine, east Germany post cold war, all the countries who buy and use Russian tanks) that these tanks do need a lot of maintenance ESPECIALLY because they are simple. Just because its comparatively easy to maintain does not mean it needs little to no maintenance.

  • @mhx6437

    @mhx6437

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly, a tank is a tank. And a tank is fundementally complex!​@@TheDemigans

  • @utaMAN12345
    @utaMAN123454 жыл бұрын

    When you gonna make the puma video

  • @kayagorzan

    @kayagorzan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pew Pew Pewma

  • @HMSNeptun
    @HMSNeptun4 жыл бұрын

    The sacred 152mm... First we have the M10 howizer, then we have ML20, then we have BL10, then we have M64, and now we have 2A83.. The 152mm legend shall live forever

  • @Soviet_Stalker_Men

    @Soviet_Stalker_Men

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Russia empire with the 400mm cannon :3

  • @Soviet_Stalker_Men

    @Soviet_Stalker_Men

    3 жыл бұрын

    The sovirt union death star: *AMATURS AMATURS AMATURS*

  • @davidelatini6815

    @davidelatini6815

    3 жыл бұрын

    @AKUJIRULE Russia: deploys t14 with 152 mm gun Germany:allow me to introduce ze sturmleopard

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    Many older russian tanks use the old soviet carousel which provides room only for shorter rounds. This affects sabot effectiveness when penetrating armor. The newer versions use bigger carousel that enables longer shells, thus providing better penetration.

  • @OverG88

    @OverG88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Carousel design is terrible in general. Crew is basically sitting on a powder keg.

  • @Kwisss

    @Kwisss

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OverG88 It wasn't terrible for the time when top attack munitions were a thing. They had less chance of being ammo racked hull down compared to any NATO tank at the time.

  • @thephoenix756

    @thephoenix756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OverG88 Not in the T-14; the crew is separated from the ammunition by 1 metre of armour while the crew of the Abrams is separated from the ammunition with 90mm.

  • @nehorlavazapalka
    @nehorlavazapalka3 жыл бұрын

    No. The 152mm "dart" is needed to deal with hard kill systems and future NATO ERA. You'll need these heavy 25 MJ projectiles - after 2030 or so. Furthemore, even a close by detonation (pre-detonation, APS) of 152mm HE shell is likely to knock out some of the exposed elements of the tank

  • @GK11415
    @GK114154 жыл бұрын

    Another great video, thanks for the information

  • @Ahmed-ot9ji
    @Ahmed-ot9ji4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video informative concise and comprehensive.

  • @paeturis
    @paeturis4 жыл бұрын

    7:11 - turn on automatic english subtitles

  • @arcturus4762

    @arcturus4762

    4 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean? Don't all Russian tanks fire potatoes?

  • @barrage1308

    @barrage1308

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ahahahah

  • @Zichoe

    @Zichoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arcturus4762 it's not ordinary potatoes, it's armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot potatoes

  • @arcturus4762

    @arcturus4762

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Zichoe No, no. Russians guns have a wide arsenal of potatoes to fire. There's normal potatoes, APFSDS potatoes, HEAT potatoes, HE potatoes, and finally, the potato-juice Vodka nuke

  • @kakakiri2601

    @kakakiri2601

    4 жыл бұрын

    Potatoes

  • @gareththompson2708
    @gareththompson27083 жыл бұрын

    So basically my takeaway is that the 152mm gun is better by just about every qualitative measure. But it is bigger, more expensive, would require a bigger turret, would leave less room for ammo, and the 125mm gun is good enough to deal with modern threats anyway.

  • @maxxiang8746
    @maxxiang87464 жыл бұрын

    "the vehicles go from 1930s to 1990s" Khrizantema S: ok boomer

  • @allengjarzombek7125
    @allengjarzombek71253 жыл бұрын

    I believe that NATO was working on a 140mm gun back in the 90’s , but the project was abandoned also because of logistical reasons. So they settled on the 120mm/L55 gun instead. Sounds familiar??

  • @Firespectrum122
    @Firespectrum122 Жыл бұрын

    There are two things I watch these videos for. Firstly is the awesome information on tanks. The second is because I can't get that damn song you keep using out of my head.

  • @yusuffirdaus3900
    @yusuffirdaus39004 жыл бұрын

    Add barrel length to 2a46 series is the most logical upgrade, just like l44 to l55

  • @Triggernlfrl

    @Triggernlfrl

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only adding barrel length will slow down the projectile....

  • @user-pq9gy3fq1q

    @user-pq9gy3fq1q

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Triggernlfrl did it slow down?

  • @verstahl4258
    @verstahl42584 жыл бұрын

    Hey, it's sponsored by War Thunder ! Who would've guessed?

  • @snakebite3232

    @snakebite3232

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kms_scharnhorst Let it out man,let it all out!

  • @littleface7060

    @littleface7060

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@snakebite3232 the pain man...

  • @-J--vx7nv
    @-J--vx7nv2 жыл бұрын

    3:35 There's a little mistake, I guess. It's written "Обькет", but it's supposed to be "Объект"(Literally "Object" in Russian).

  • @sreebuszeebus1343
    @sreebuszeebus13434 жыл бұрын

    review the Iranian Karrar tank

  • @SK-ik9mc

    @SK-ik9mc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, The glorious Karrar carboard crap collector

  • @yurihoo

    @yurihoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh Moment looool

  • @marvintiger9631

    @marvintiger9631

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SK-ik9mc Isn't THAT bad... But Iranians are bigmouths, sure, less than the Turks, who get everything from West/South Korean/Ukrainian firms, they have the HARDEST sanctions, MUCH corruption, higher priority for other stuff = sabotage, cyber-warfare, drones, ballistic missiles ... "Karrar" = upgraded T-72S, which is the export variant of T-72B (1985). NOW, the upgraded T-72S variant (Karrar) has the ability to shoot ATGM through barrel (which could Russian T-72B directly from start of his production), better ERA, upgraded FCS, Sights etc. Yeah, NOTHING special. But you will see, Iranians will try to get license-production of T-90S and/or T-90MS ... when sanctions are lifted.

  • @OOOOOOOOOOOOO

    @OOOOOOOOOOOOO

    4 жыл бұрын

    He already reviewed the T72 I believe.

  • @VladislavDrac

    @VladislavDrac

    4 жыл бұрын

    Been asking for him to review Iranian tanks, or Karrar at least. Perhaps he need some “financial persuasion”

  • @joehernandez2506
    @joehernandez25064 жыл бұрын

    See the only problems I'm seeing with t14 seems to be production and some sight issues. I think it's probably one of the best built tanks but the gun sights are giving me something to sorry about

  • @tomasmisek5598

    @tomasmisek5598

    5 ай бұрын

    I mean it supposedly reloads in about 10 seconds which is half as fast as most western tanks, its engine is a mess, the APS and EW parts seem to either be missing or not working and its big and tall, which combine together into a less than stellar image. Guess we will see though

  • @jungfer27
    @jungfer274 жыл бұрын

    Would love to hear your thoughts on the CV90-120.

  • @thermalvision203
    @thermalvision2039 ай бұрын

    Source for the image at 3:47?

  • @Jamicaman516
    @Jamicaman5164 жыл бұрын

    Russia: Lets make a super awesome tank because we never make enough T-72's, T-80's and T-90's for our needs as it is, we will worry about production and testing costs later when oil returns to its peak value. We can see how that gamble didn't pan out well

  • @GenScinmore
    @GenScinmore4 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna cry :(

  • @CMDRFandragon
    @CMDRFandragon4 жыл бұрын

    152mm gun, for when even if you DONT penetrate, you still kill the tank.

  • @Criomorph
    @Criomorph4 жыл бұрын

    I'm still on the fence whether the T-14 is a paper tiger case or a Type 90 case.

  • @citadel7832

    @citadel7832

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think to a large extent it is in fact a paper tiger, but has some solid factors to back it up. A wooden tiger, if you will.

  • @lukabogdanovic4658

    @lukabogdanovic4658

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go do some reasherch

  • @1KosovoJeSrbija1

    @1KosovoJeSrbija1

    4 жыл бұрын

    if it were just a fake tank meant to scare their enemies, wouldn't they equip it with the best gun they could? Instead of going with the more economical, and realistic option?

  • @utaMAN12345

    @utaMAN12345

    4 жыл бұрын

    If it was a fake meant to scare the west, well it has done a good job really

  • @Criomorph

    @Criomorph

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@1KosovoJeSrbija1 I meant more as a "here, we have this super high tech extremely capable vehicle...we're not actually going to use it but _we have it_ ...so just watch out" type of thing.

  • @gpoutdoors5971
    @gpoutdoors59714 жыл бұрын

    And also the russian apfsds does have a higher initial muzzle velocity but the round isnt as heavy which means its penetrating ability falls offf much faster past 50 yards giving the abrams an overwhelming penetrating ability at ong range thanks to its longer/heavier rod

  • @headhunter1012

    @headhunter1012

    2 жыл бұрын

    That´s not how physics or balistics works. The slower the intitial velocity the shorter would be the distance it can travel before hitting the ground. So the abrams apfsds rounds wont be able to shoot at distance effectively. Now something about the penetration ablility, the main factor for the penetration capabilities, is the kinetic energy of a round (simple physics): E(kin)=1/2 x m x v^2 That the formula for it. The slow down which the rounds suffer both (125mm and 120mm) is nearly the same. So where as the 120mm abrams round gets its higher kinetic energy by higher mass it losses initial velocity and where the 125mm russian round is lighter makes it able to gain a higher initial velocity. So their penetration ability is what concerns kinetic energy the same but not their effective firing range. The rest of their penetration ability is determined by the materials used and those hardness. P.S. The Abrams is basically filled with depleted uranium (aswell in the armor also in the rounds) which is less radioactive than regular activated uranium but still makes it a potiential cancer bunker

  • @edi9892
    @edi98924 жыл бұрын

    I wish you could make a video on how cannons improved since WWII. I still can´t wrap my head around how a cannon like in the Jagdtiger, or Maus fits in the tiny turret of a t64/t72... and what once were two-stage munitions can now be slammed into the breach as one piece with relative ease. From what I do understand, the propellant got far more aggressive (and the old barrels were already that thick to combat it back then and wore out fast!) and rounds other than APCBCHE are considerably lighter, though a HE, HEAT, or HESH can still go over the limit of manual loading. The second thing is, that the recoil of the old cannon would not have enough room in a modern turret, but the modern cannons have AFAIK still more energy. Now, a 125mm can be even mounted on a light tank, without causing it to roll over. Also, I don´t get where the giant recoil dampeners disappeared to. i can´t think of any place for them in a modern turret.

  • @vasopel

    @vasopel

    8 ай бұрын

    hm... 128_Pak_44 (maus+jagdtiger), length 7 meters , weight: a bit more than 10,160 kg (22,400 lb) fired a 28 kg anti tank projectile 125_mm 2A46 (T-90), length 6 meters, weight: 2,675 kg (4.409 lb) fires anti tank HEAT projectiles maximum of 20 kg new-ish russian 152_mm 2А83 (for future Armata), length 7 meters , weight: 5,000 kg , (no idea about what it fires)

  • @UselessZero
    @UselessZero4 жыл бұрын

    Is it that hard to replace the turret on T-14 that will be able to fit 152mm? It's unmanned, so, theoretically, it should be a relatively easy replacement, since developers don't need to think how to fit crew and the gun in a turret. And turret ring is already quite big, so even carousel and auto-loader should not be a big problem.

  • @user-qz2sw7pq8y

    @user-qz2sw7pq8y

    4 жыл бұрын

    The T14 is build around the idea of a platform and modularity. its way easier then "regular" tank

  • @maxim6088
    @maxim60884 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that they can just produce the next series with a different turret... After all, the t14 chassis is made to be able to have the turret changed easily and cheaper than most tanks...

  • @RogueBeatsARG
    @RogueBeatsARG3 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit T-90M looks badass with those chainmail

  • @simonbarnes1114
    @simonbarnes11143 жыл бұрын

    Wow a fan boy epic! The main reason the 152mm is not being used is that it offers no significant improvement over the 125mm with modern munitions, when it was first developed it did but ammunition caught up. And what use is a 20km range ATGM ? Besides which the final iteration of the T 14 is not yet set as its not in production and only undergoing trials .

  • @SashaFoxfort
    @SashaFoxfort4 жыл бұрын

    Are there any plans to increasing the caliber of T-72/90 tanks? Can current autoloader accept any bigger caliber rounds? Seems like RUS tanks could use longer gun and maybe +10mm caliber increase.

  • @stavka227
    @stavka2274 жыл бұрын

    How do I use the bonus if I’m on PlayStation?

  • @gpoutdoors5971
    @gpoutdoors59714 жыл бұрын

    did you know that a t-14 aramatta has to be 1500 yards or closer to have the posibility of penetrating thr front side of the abrams.....and we have already developed a new apfsds kinetic penetrator called m829a4 that can penetrate the t-14 at distances of 3km or closer and under which means the t-14 as to be almost 1-2 km closer to even have the possibility of penetrating the abrams im completely confident in our abrams against a t-14

  • @tunisiandom9318
    @tunisiandom93184 жыл бұрын

    T-90M has the 2A82-1M Gun (production variant of 2A82 protype). the tanks that have 2A46-M5 is the export version T-90MS and the T-72B3s (T-72b3ob2016 has one with more electronics called 2A46M5-01 so maybe T-90MS has that same one)

  • @marko4480
    @marko44804 жыл бұрын

    hey can you make a video how do you think modern batlefield wuld look like - ww3 Do you think there wuld be only rockets or some actual shooting.

  • @paogene1288

    @paogene1288

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rockets for long range but easily interceted by other rockets, jets, lasers (considering it is in the future), artillery for "medium" range hard to intercept. Bullets for defense as rockets and artillery, as well as air strikes will kill the most infantry. Of course in the subject of rockets/missile , nuclear missiles. Source: my poor knowledge on warfare.

  • @andrewlambert7246
    @andrewlambert72462 жыл бұрын

    THAT IS HYPETSONIC SPEEDS. HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH ACTIVE PROTECTION SYSTEM SUCH MILLIMETER RADAR?

  • @jackozbloke5079
    @jackozbloke50794 жыл бұрын

    Hey RedEffect, what vehicle is that at 1:52?

  • @SaltyMartian

    @SaltyMartian

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's Object 490

  • @1076bless
    @1076bless4 жыл бұрын

    Keep show up love it

  • @abhishekdahikane2817
    @abhishekdahikane28174 жыл бұрын

    Why this channel don't reviews APCs and IFV????

  • @Waltham1892
    @Waltham18923 жыл бұрын

    Every time I hear someone mention the T-14 and a 152mm gun, I know its a War Thunder Ranger talking. I don't know how Armor attracted so many fan boys, but as a tanker I'm very tired of them and I wish they'd go away.

  • @kwkfortythree39
    @kwkfortythree394 жыл бұрын

    First time I see T-14's gun stabilized footage

  • @_sergiu__
    @_sergiu__4 жыл бұрын

    Pls ,make a video about tr85m1 (rumanian tank)..pls,pls,pls!!!!!!

  • @bickboose9364
    @bickboose93644 жыл бұрын

    Make a vid on the Romanian TR-85. I'm interested to see just how bad it is.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378

    @matthiuskoenig3378

    3 жыл бұрын

    its a essentially a T-55 with a leopard 1 engine, what do you think?

  • @dallas3644
    @dallas36444 жыл бұрын

    As much as it pains me to admit it, tanks have limited time left. I feel too many things can take them out and eventually the military will turn their backs and focus on something else. Hopefully this is far in the future

  • @tunisiandom9318

    @tunisiandom9318

    4 жыл бұрын

    everything has too many tings that can take them out. nothing is invincible.

  • @OverG88

    @OverG88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct. Ammo is insanely efficient nowdays. Javellin, Kornet, drones... Absolutely lethal to tanks.

  • @massimechoub3343
    @massimechoub33434 жыл бұрын

    3:44 what this shell suppose to do in a class room ?

  • @massimechoub3343

    @massimechoub3343

    3 жыл бұрын

    AIFAHRA HORGGHRO probably put in his kid’s school bag a +1 shell cause Russian carousel do not carry enough and

  • @dannyturkian9083
    @dannyturkian90833 жыл бұрын

    I believe that the gun you show at 8:00 is a 140mm gun not a 130mm

  • @QueenTheCossackTongued
    @QueenTheCossackTongued4 жыл бұрын

    Ah the T14. The tank that gave the Abrams a new type of shell to shoot

  • @wonkagaming8750

    @wonkagaming8750

    4 жыл бұрын

    AMP-T?, a multi porpuse round for anti-infanty,helo and light vehicles?, or M829A4 with the same performance of A3 just better against relik ERA than K-5?, what new round did abrams get from T 14s supposed 152mm gun

  • @lubomirdoukov6975
    @lubomirdoukov69754 жыл бұрын

    I might be wrong, but how on earth can you loose, what you never had?

  • @garysellars8761
    @garysellars87614 жыл бұрын

    T-14 was always going to fielded with a 125mm gun. The talk about a 152mm was always a future upgrade if and when required since the 125mm gun is capable of defeating all current opposing designs. T-14 is definitely a real tank and the Ruskies will introduce serial production, but only when they think the the design is ready, bugs shaken out, and all state testing has been passed. Until then they will quite sensibly spend cash on upgrading their T-90As to T-90M standard, and their huge fleet of T-72s to T-72B3 & B3M. Heck, even the much-maligned turbine-powered T-80s will be upgraded and used for arctic operations (where their turbine allows them to get underway in cold weather far quicker than diesel engines). Russians traditionally build their tanks differently to us. They emphasize cold weather performance and ability to service in the field by poorly-trained conscripts. They are changing into a more technological military but their operational philosophic differences still remain. The Ruskie military doesn't accept equipment unless it performs to spec. There will be no F-35 or USS Ford debacles with this lot, no accepting equipment for service that has a defect list a mile long. State owned weapons manufacturers exist to make the equipment that the Ruskie armed forces wants and needs. Their operating profit isn't a concern. If their MIC wants to make money, they need to export orders to foreign countries (and even then they are expected to spend the profits to subsidize their delivery of domestic orders). Compare this against our privately-owned for-profit MIC that makes BILLIONS from the tax-payers pocket delivering under-performing bug-ridden junk that takes years to fix on the publics dime, while their profits get recycled into the pockets of bent politicians and lobbyists who pester our elected reps in the pursuit of more war (so that existing weapon stocks can be depleted and more P/Os issued for new ordnance) and who prop up Ruskie/ChiCom strawmen to get the gov to spend more taxpayer cash on new weapon development, all in teh name of "defense".

  • @adityadaga2840
    @adityadaga28404 жыл бұрын

    Make 3 variants of Armada T-14 tanks depending upon the size of its armour shield and the main gun turret size. Make a tank brigade to combine any of these three variants depending upon the situation. Nothing is permanent in nature however you can set a default parameter until some one want different combination of its variants. 50% light (existing tank with 120 mm gun turret) , 25% will be more heavier as medium tank version fitter with 130 mm gun turret and the rest 25% heavy tank will be fitted with long range heavy duty 155 mm guns. Thus it gets the perfect combinations of speed, agility, power and range to overcome any situation.

  • @williamchu4595
    @williamchu45954 жыл бұрын

    the news said they delay the 152 mm gun installation because too many 125 mm shell in stock and as well as the produciton lines

  • @romainlapie6362
    @romainlapie63623 жыл бұрын

    "Germany is planning a 130mm canon on their new MBTs" You probably meant "Germany and France are planning to put 130mm rheinmetal or 140mm nexter cannon on their new MBT that they are producing in common" ?

  • @tomfuller4205
    @tomfuller42054 жыл бұрын

    The US made M60A2 mounted a 152mm gun/missile launcher and several practical considerations arose. Size of rounds made them difficult to maneuver inside the vehicle and made reloading a time consuming event. Much larger rounds meant less rounds carried compared to the 105mm armed M60A1 and A3 variants. Reminder that American tanks have always been larger than their Soviet counterparts and are roomier. The M60A2 had a completely different turret. The closet Soviet equivalent would be the the KV-2. Both vehicles were judged to be no better than normal tanks and their service lives were rather short.

  • @ikill-98
    @ikill-984 жыл бұрын

    Make video again about T90M And new one about puma

  • @hardhik100
    @hardhik1004 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Can you please make a video on T90S Bhisma that India has bought and compare it with Type 99A?

  • @smeminem1258
    @smeminem12584 жыл бұрын

    The 152 HE would be the standard anti tank round APFSDS would be for taking down continents

  • @TheNicestPig

    @TheNicestPig

    4 жыл бұрын

    Real life isn't War Thunder.

  • @inouelenhatduy

    @inouelenhatduy

    4 жыл бұрын

    outgunned unicum it wont destroy the tank, but the tank will be knoch out of battle ( aka all the optic broke , gun damage , crew injured ) it just like ap mine , they don't design to kil , they just design to take our your leg and knoch you out of the battle

  • @smeminem1258

    @smeminem1258

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheNicestPig yeah in real life you don't just shrug off a howitzer shell like it's no biggie

  • @TheNicestPig

    @TheNicestPig

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@smeminem1258 You don't get hits with them either. It is difficult to get an HE shell anywhere over 1km accurately even with Fire Control Computers.

  • @einar8019

    @einar8019

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spall liners missing is the reason russian he is in any way effective against any armoured target

  • @inwedavid6919
    @inwedavid69193 жыл бұрын

    Like the T64 we can guess that an Armata Light (or low cost) will appear one day.

  • @imperatorczech9136
    @imperatorczech91364 жыл бұрын

    I love this tank

  • @fishgaming9818
    @fishgaming98184 жыл бұрын

    can you make a video about how to destroy merkava tank? love your content btw

  • @lovrokapel363

    @lovrokapel363

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why would you want to know that?

  • @fishgaming9818

    @fishgaming9818

    3 жыл бұрын

    alfawiski i think this would be challenging one

  • @paulziberth1148

    @paulziberth1148

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just send it to Russia, where it will get stuck in the mud and freeze in the cold!

  • @fishgaming9818

    @fishgaming9818

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paulziberth1148 you know israel isn’t a desert right? Merkavas are also being deployed in Israel’s snowy borders

  • @dodgedemonsrtx

    @dodgedemonsrtx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fishgaming9818 It's doesn't have a good armor so it's easy

  • @louisr6560
    @louisr65604 жыл бұрын

    Intersting fact i stumbeled upon is that some new technologies for the Armata family were initially developed in cooperation with Italien and French defense contractors until stopped by the sanctions after Russia occupied the Krim. It could, beside costs,be one reason the project began to struggle after 2015.

  • @omarmuhammadibnabdullah7561
    @omarmuhammadibnabdullah75612 жыл бұрын

    .🏴‍☠️T14 Armata needs to be mass produced ASAP.🏴‍☠️

  • @omarmuhammadibnabdullah7561

    @omarmuhammadibnabdullah7561

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least 10000 T14 Aramatas for the Russian army.

  • @omarmuhammadibnabdullah7561

    @omarmuhammadibnabdullah7561

    2 жыл бұрын

    10,000 T14 Armatas for the Russian Army 👍🏻

  • @timokocian4769
    @timokocian47694 жыл бұрын

    Does the T-14 need to elevate it‘s gun like Leopard 2 or Challenger 2? I ask because I’ve saw an animated video of the Autoloader of t-14 and it looks like it hast to...

  • @thesayxx
    @thesayxx4 жыл бұрын

    what it needs is the 152mm M-69 cannon. 9 meters of pure madness.

  • @tomk3732
    @tomk37323 жыл бұрын

    Problem with 152 other then logistics is ammo storage - tanks are not made of rubber - you cannot have unlimited storage. Hence why Germany is thinking of say 140mm gun not NATO 155mm. I am sure there is work on eventually going to 152mm for the Russians, but when there is no pressing need for the next decade+ why be at the front & bear all the costs up front. Leopard III sporting 140mm is at least 2 decades away from operational duty.

  • @aihamkashow1511
    @aihamkashow15113 жыл бұрын

    Talk about object 640/black eagle its another russian prototype tank that was made during 80/90s but never entered service/production.

  • @Ivan-yc4cj
    @Ivan-yc4cj4 жыл бұрын

    Could you pls explain why modern MBTs dont use muzzle breakes anymore??? I find it quite confusing i mean the german Tiger used a muzzle break with its 88 mm gun but the leo 2 with its 120 mm gun doesn't Love your content

  • @marvintiger9631

    @marvintiger9631

    4 жыл бұрын

    There was a Soviet/Russian Tank, a prototype, which was better than early T-90 (T-72BU) and many things went to T-14 Armata (Armata is the platform itself, T-14 the tank version). This tank had a muzzle brake. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_187

  • @thermite10k40

    @thermite10k40

    4 жыл бұрын

    because of fin stabilized shells

  • @Ivan-yc4cj

    @Ivan-yc4cj

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Oliver Viehland You shure? I mean the arent that big

  • @patrioticpanda7618

    @patrioticpanda7618

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ivan Skaro because for an APFSDS shot you work, the sabot needs to fall off the dart, if one part of the sabot stays on top long it can mess up the accuracy by quite a bit

  • @patrioticpanda7618

    @patrioticpanda7618

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oliver Viehland incorrect reason

  • @StarReveurMA
    @StarReveurMA3 жыл бұрын

    If the T-14 Armata had 152, i would have fell in love with it

  • @REgamesplayer
    @REgamesplayer4 жыл бұрын

    There are a lot of people who are clueless down below. While 152 mm caliber has a lot of flaws, it is essential upgrade in order to gain firepower superiority in a field. Armor is yet again catching up and estimated armor values of most tanks are bit higher than what our guns can penetrate. In order to get a chance of defeating modern armor, we need impractically long and extremely expensive rounds. This trend will only continue with time if we do not develop better guns. Our 120-125 mm calibers had evolved from medium barreled L/44 versions to L/60'ish range. We are yet again are approaching German WW2 school of thought where weapons were upwards to L/70 long and that wasn't even a ceiling. Making guns so long have issues on its own, like being impractical in urban fighting or delivering soft target performance. Yet, every time when we needed more firepower we always ultimately went for bigger calibers. It is only the matter of time when Nato is going to introduce 130 mm caliber and thus Russia will have to upgrade too despite its financial considerations and 152 mm is the only available gun in which a lot of money is already sunk in. Greater caliber is inevitable and I would say that T-14 should had come with it by default. It is next generation tank, it is not supposed to fight or to replace T-90 series or older. I'm also disappointed by false reporting of Russian defense ministry, claiming that tank can be upgraded with 152 mm while in reality it cannot and vehicle needs to be redeveloped which in my eyes is short sighted and just negligent.

  • @johnclement189
    @johnclement1894 жыл бұрын

    I'm just hoping they have the t-14 armata's turret armor incase some big war is gonna happen.

  • @icetea8946
    @icetea89464 жыл бұрын

    I mean. Its current armament is still one of the most poweful of all mbts

  • @colin.k6263

    @colin.k6263

    4 жыл бұрын

    definitely but I'd still rather have a tank thats better in both guns and armor then just one

  • @yosawin3018

    @yosawin3018

    4 жыл бұрын

    But hey,if it's more powerful then it's still a lost, anyway I understand that(125 mm. is still powerful with right ammunitions),with the current state of Russia, it must take sometimes.

  • @jokuvitunjuutalaine430

    @jokuvitunjuutalaine430

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can’t beat the 120mm l/55

  • @nemisous83

    @nemisous83

    4 жыл бұрын

    Too bad T-14 isnt even in service and likely wont be for years to come.

  • @Notmyname1593

    @Notmyname1593

    4 жыл бұрын

    @JOHN GAGE Doubt on the protection

  • @NLTimotei
    @NLTimotei4 жыл бұрын

    3:32 How was it possible to mess up the tank names 2 times. It's Объект not Обькет.

  • @swaghauler8334
    @swaghauler83344 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why the Russians didn't put a 130mm Cannon on the T14 that would have allowed the Russian Army and Navy to share ammo costs (the 130mm is in use on some Russian ships)?

  • @mcnuffin1208

    @mcnuffin1208

    2 ай бұрын

    Ship ammunition and tank ammunition is different

  • @paulleader7000
    @paulleader70004 жыл бұрын

    if i wanted a massive gun i would just go straight to royal ordnance, they constantly churn out top quality guns..105mm L7A1,L7B, 120mm L1A1 etc all absolute performers.....edit; even going back to the WWs they always tried stuffing AT royal ordnance guns in tanks (17,20,32 pdr) firefly etc

  • @Vibakari
    @Vibakari3 жыл бұрын

    Both T-14s kinda look like eachother

  • @thesovietwarbear4551
    @thesovietwarbear45514 жыл бұрын

    Suppose it’ll be kinda like the Abrams where it started with the 105 then moved to the 120

  • @user-qz2sw7pq8y

    @user-qz2sw7pq8y

    4 жыл бұрын

    well... the 105 was a rifled gun whilr the120 was smooth.... thats like srs worldly difference... it should have been done in the 60s ( like the soviets did , or an other way to say it is that the soviets where 20 years ahead ;) / comparativly the 152 mm gun dosent offer to big of an advantage ( the biggest one would be that it would match the caliber of ATGM 9M133 . )

  • @_datapoint
    @_datapoint4 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering how long it would take for everyone to get back to the same bore sizes as what it was in WW2.

  • @paogene1288

    @paogene1288

    4 жыл бұрын

    76mm?

  • @_datapoint

    @_datapoint

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@paogene1288 Ever hear of the SU-152? The Soviets were going much bigger than everyone else.

  • @sababugs1125

    @sababugs1125

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh imagine if Italy brings back tankets .

  • @kuailiang2445
    @kuailiang24454 жыл бұрын

    Inb4 gaijin adds these 152mm armed MBT prototypes ingame

  • @aramisone7198
    @aramisone71982 жыл бұрын

    140mm is enough maybe even 130mm gun but the Armata seems to be too expensive.

  • @mabdinur85
    @mabdinur853 жыл бұрын

    Beyond 135mm I think the barrel size becomes counterproductive as in it's too heavy, unweildy and slow. Also it's a step back in MBT's trying to fit urban fighting warzones rather than open fields. For NATO I would say a 126mm should be it's next progression. No need one up the Russian calibres by that big of a margin; bigger guns are about over the horizon capacity so instead improve the netcentric fighting aspects that improves that capacity first and upgrade the guns to match that distance capability to project kinetic force. Maybe that is what they're doing with 130mm; current NATO tanks have about 5km to 12km of over the horizon awareness; having a gun that can cover that range is crucial.

  • @thebritishengineer8027
    @thebritishengineer80274 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much every current smooth bore tank gun is potentially obsolete. BAE's Cased Telescoped Round will be up-gunning the 40mm cannon on the warrior to a weapon able to penetrate 140mm with it's AP round, shoot down helicopters with a distance programmable/fused air burst round or a concrete busting (210mm) proximity HiEx... What has this got to do with tank guns, well if BAE can go down to a NEW 6.5mm for US rifles why can't they go up to 105mm/155mm for navel and 120mm for MBT's. More deadly, smart, simpler loading systems and overall a smaller round that is easier to store. CTR could potentially give the Challenger 3 the equivalent hitting power of a 9" Navel Gun. I did put 19" but that was a typo, as I was thinking the WW2 BL IX 9.2" sorry if i misled.

  • @mcnuffin1208

    @mcnuffin1208

    2 ай бұрын

    A 19 inch gun??? Absolutely BS

  • @thebritishengineer8027

    @thebritishengineer8027

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mcnuffin1208 Almost twice the kinetic hitting power of a standard round. A 40mm AP round able to pen 140mm of Rolled steel ...figures published by BAE. 120mm x 2 kinetic damage is say 220mm Pen. So a 9" Mk9 Navel Gun. Not sure whay I put 19 when I was thinking of the BL Mk9. But hopefully you can see the math.

  • @pashapasovski5860
    @pashapasovski58604 жыл бұрын

    They will make some 152 to compliment 125!

  • @richardbradley2335
    @richardbradley23353 жыл бұрын

    IN WW2 Yankee tankers complained the Shermans only had 100 rounds !

  • @shanerooney7288

    @shanerooney7288

    2 жыл бұрын

    The speed of war has increased. Tanks aren't expected to fight (or last) for that long anymore.

  • @russiandispenser8482
    @russiandispenser84824 жыл бұрын

    I would say that 2A82-M1 is probably the best gun in the world right now, while L/55 is still awesome but lags behind in some areas. There is no "Oh that gun is better and that is worse," all of them have their ups and downs. Also Armata dosent need 152mm (or at least when NATO gets 130mm gun) they will need to improve and mount or develop new tank on Armata platrofm that can carry that 152mm gun.

  • @markschoning5581

    @markschoning5581

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is why Rheinmetall developed the Rh-L55A1. It is in production for the Leopard II A7V tanks for the German Army.defpost.com/rheinmetall-upgrade-german-leopard-2-battle-tanks/ In combination with the new DM 73 round, the performance in, respect of armour penetration, is increased by 25% in comparison to the combination of the old L55 gun and the DM 63 round.

  • @pheonixshaman
    @pheonixshaman4 жыл бұрын

    Any knowledge of why they haven't made more t14s? Is it issues with funding, production, or is it that they are still testing it?

  • @mikayolo8182

    @mikayolo8182

    4 жыл бұрын

    Money

  • @kirgan1000

    @kirgan1000

    4 жыл бұрын

    Propaganda, look Russia strong, fear me! T14 are noting more then the "old" new super tanks like Black Eagel or T95. T14 will be quiet cancelled and Russia will give the T-90 a mid-life update.

  • @daninquin2732
    @daninquin27324 жыл бұрын

    just got the notification even tho i watched the day this video came out bruh

  • @nobodyherepal3292
    @nobodyherepal32924 жыл бұрын

    @red effect Hear me out......why not add a rail gun/coil gun to the T-14?

  • @HJDore

    @HJDore

    4 жыл бұрын

    Electrical storage technologies haven’t progressed far enough yet to provide good enough size:capacity ratios. Tanks don’t have large expanses of space unlike ships that are having railguns installed now.

  • @marko4480
    @marko44804 жыл бұрын

    if they are going to replace a gun they shuld desighn a new one that wuld need minimal changes made to the tank

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