Dude they just cleared him ! Stop trying to make him look bad because he didn’t go to the blue jays !!

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video? I clearly state I do not believe he bet on baseball and in fact QUOTE The Athletic article outlining his innocence.

You need to fact-check before making any comment if you want credibility. Tim Duncan was robbed of tens of millions as were Kevin Garnet and Robert De Niro. They were all robbed by someone close. And they all speak English. It happens way more than you think. As for the marriage , it’s a cultural thing to keep your private life on low profile and not make a fuss about your marriage. Just like when Hideki Matsui surprisingly announced his marriage out of nowhere. Just ask any Japanese about how Shohei handled his marriage. Only Canadians would make an issue out this. Ohtani was never accused by anyone on anything. Yet the media and people like you try to make a villain out of Ohtani for no reason other than simple hate or jealousy or whatever. Here in the west coast, he is adored and that is all that matters for Dodger fans.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

I am well aware of those situations and do not believe in any way that Ohtani bet on baseball. Maybe you missed the part where I quote the Athletic story that shows Mizuhara is guilty. I can admit to making a mistake about the marriage. I can appreciate the differences in culture. What I am suggesting is that when you sign the biggest contract in professional sports and put yourself on one of the most prominent franchises in sports that you are going to need to adapt. Ohtani is going to be scrutinized far more in this position. You may be able to keep a low profile and just play baseball on the Angels. That is not true with the Dodgers and people love to hate on the big high budget team.

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down He has been adopting ... What are you talking about? He's talking to media at least once a week now. What else do you want him to do? He's a victim in this scandal. He did everything he should have done and handled the situation well. Why do you care what his wife does? He's a baseball player, not a celebrity. Stick to baseball, not Nation Enquire.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu I never said he wasn't a victim. In fact I quote the story saying he is innocent

Legend has it that Ohtani is still on a plane right now on his way to Canada to sign with the Blue Jays

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

So the one playing with the Dodgers is an imposter

@cryptobill6188

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down it's a glitch in the matrix

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@cryptobill6188 Hopefully the 2 never meet

Wtf calling Shohei a villain??? So what if he had most of his money deferred. California politicians are upset cause he won’t pay a huge income tax, good for him. Shohei suffered for years at Angels. It’s ok if he makes it to the playoffs now but no guarantee he will win a single WS. Hell even Yankees and Judge didn’t make it to 1 WS either. Why are you calling Shohei a villain when he never tasted a playoffs and who cares if he wins 1? In baseball there’s no guarantee in postseason.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

Significant deferred money puts the vast majority of baseball in a place they can not do financially. More importantly it was Ohtani's idea! This gives all the appearance of the Dodgers attempting to buy a championship. This screams late 90s early 2000s Yankees who most certainly were villains. It does not help he is the biggest potential star in the game, but is completely closed off. Baseball needs stars ot can promote, not players to just show up and play. The contract and move to the Dodgers changed his role in baseball. If you disagree you are welcome to that opinion. I love a solid baseball debate.

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down The deferred money is a LEGAL move. Feel free to deferred all your earnings and collect your pay checks 10years from now. What's stopping you little bruh? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu lack of endorsements

Sour Grapes much that he not sign blue Jays?

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

Too bad that has nothing to do with any facts or opinions expressed in the video

@Vanos99

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down it has everything to do with your opinio. FBI says he has nothing to do with it other than victim

@Vanos99

2 ай бұрын

I'm Padrees Fan. hate the Dodgers, othani is not ther villian

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@Vanos99 I literally state I do no believe he bet on baseball and quote The Athletic article with the facts

Shohei doesn't need to open himself up to you or the public. Shohei just needs to be himself. If you don't like it then don't his fan or following him. All he needs to do is produce when it comes to batting and pitching.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

LeBron James, Wayne Gretzky, Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Michael Jordan, Derek Jeter... the greats of the game need to be present to grow the game. These players didn't just play.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

I respect your opinion though and appreciate the debate. We can agree to disagree. Thanks for coming to the channel

@JohnSmith-nj4zq

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down As long as they are present on the field and producing in a record pace, the game will grow. You sound like Stephen A Smith for belittling Shohei just because he didn't speak English. I followed Tom Brady since he started with the Patriots. He was a private guy as well. The whole N.E motto was to be robotic and not talk much just like their Coach Belichick. Only after he joined the Bucs did he opened himself up and let his wild side out. Everyone is different with different personalities and you need to accept that.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@JohnSmith-nj4zq and people took exception at the time with Bellichek and Brady not doing more. I have 0 issue with Ohtani not publicly speaking English. After 6 years I am a little surprised he doesn't do at times, but I have no problem with that.

You are saying Ohtani pulled a Lebron except without the press conference and the dancing

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

That is the exact comparison! I was thinking I needed to make a video making this clear! Thank you for this comment!

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down So he's not Lebron then 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu closest we've seen to LeBron since the decision

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Good subject and an interesting take on Ohtani that I happen to share. Perhaps, it's not so much Ohtani himself, it's the point you hit on - we hate the Dodgers. The legality of the deferred money is a loophole that the owners should close (of course, they won't). I find myself agreeing with David Samson on the reasons. As Forbes magazine stated, the legality versus the ability of (most) other teams to effectuate this type of deferral contract simply exacerbates the untenable inequity in MLB. This is a serious business source, not a sour-grapes Marlins fan talking here! Regarding the Dodgers' 2020 so-called "title," I don't think it is legitimate, but that means nothing since MLB has placed it on par with every other WS title. Otherwise, the $2 billion spent by LA in the Roberts era before this season should have produced nothing but a lot of regular season wins. Think the Dodger fans are satisfied with that? Were the 1990s Braves fans? One WS title after a decade of dominance is not satisfactory. So, Ohtani is the face of the Dodgers and that means I cannot pull for his success, or at least, his personal stats can be anything as long as the Dodgers do not win a title for the next ten years. Baseball fans, as you noted, need the proverbial big bad wolf or evil empire to hate and pull against. Count me in that group! Ciao and Expos Toujours.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate the response as always. I think the move to the Dodgers is a huge part of this. A large portion of people want to see the big high budget teams fail. I struggle with the 2020 title. I understand the need for the shortened season, but it was a very challenging playoff. It always seems that health of pitching staff at playoff time greatly affects the Dodgers, so the shortened season certainly helped in that regard. The Ohtani move combined with the others like Yamamoto certainly have turned the Dodgers into the next evil empire. I am intrigued as to what happens to the deferred money loophole. It is definitely creating inequity. I happened to catch some of David Samson on the Rich Eisen show. We need to hear more from him, what a great host. I tend to agree that nothing will change.

@thomasjoseph3488

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down Solid points. Yes, there has to be at least a modicum of hope for smaller-income teams. Otherwise, what is the point of watching a sport without any hope? There are too many entertainment choices now, and MLB must consider options to counter the "untenable" inequity, as Forbes noted. It's difficult for an Expos fan to stomach Samson, but if he's right, he's right. His experience gives his insights a lot of weight. Regarding 2020, as I have often said, do you think the legitimacy would be as unquestioned if the Marlins had won their third title, then? Let's face it, the answer is negative, and the howling would be much broader. The fact that the Dodgers needed those ridiculous set of circumstances to win after 32 years is hilarious, in any case. Perhaps, it vindicated Roberts and their spending strategy, but internally, perhaps not. I know one thing - a single WS title in the Ohtani era would be an unmitigated disaster for them. There is no way a single title - if it ever comes - satisfies the expectations of ownership or the fans. I wonder about the Phillies and Yankees, as well. This is the sixth year of the Harper era. Is one WS appearance enough progress? of course not. Not at all. They are another team that desperately needs vindication from at least one championship. The Yankees are, of course, in their own category. Their Judge/Cole (Stanton? Soto?) era demands championships for vindication. Nothing else matters to Yankees fans. All the blather about competitiveness and "just getting the opportunity" goes right out the window. No one associated with the powerhouse teams is satisfied with those various "levels of success." In fairness, though, we fans have a hard time distinguishing on-field success and financial success, for which the owners place an unquestionable higher priority (can't really blame them for that).

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@thomasjoseph3488 You really can not grow the game without hope for smaller franchises. That being said, you also have to ownerships in place willing to grow smaller franchises by reinvesting money into the team. Of course, this is the fan perspective. In the end the billionaire is going to do what they want to do with the team. I knew a little of Samson from the Marlins era, but did not realize he was that involved with the shadiness of the Expos situation. The Yankees judging performance only by World Series titles I think has a long history and does indeed make sense in a lot of ways. I really do think the Dodgers need to win a full season title in the next 2 years or this era of Dodger baseball will be faced with some seriously difficult questions. I know the talk with playoffs is always that they are a small sample size and a team just needs to get hot, but with the amount of opportunities and amount of failures the Dodgers have had, we are no longer talking small sample size. A World Series win does legitimize your success for 5-10 years depending on the size of your organization. I hadn't thought of the Phillies in this way, but do agree they are getting into that feeling of desperately needing a championship. If the Padres could sustain their payroll they would fit this as well with Machado. In my mind, what sets Ohtani apart from other Dodgers is he doesn't have that title and joined for that reason and deferred all that money to win. Betts has his title from Boston, Freeman has the Braves win, to truly be in the conversation of Greatest of All Time Ohtani is going to need a title. That's why I think the move to the Dodgers really starts to portray him more as a villain than ever before.

@TheRightFieldPavilion

2 ай бұрын

​@@thomasjoseph3488@3up3down My biggest issue as a Dodgers fan with a video like this, is that it's all sour grapes at this point. If the Bluejays would have locked up Ohtani, and was given the same deferred deal that he gave the Dodgers, and that deal led to signing Yoshinobu Yamamoto, you would have never created this video, and would never question Ohtani in any way about his way of living his life and wanting his privacy. Regarding the 2020 WS, 30 teams had a chance to win, & 29 teams failed. It's that simple. Last but not least. The teams that spend big money aren't guaranteed to win it all. Teams like the Guardians in 2016, Rays in 2020, and Dbacks in 2023 were not big spenders, but got hot at the right moment. They didn't win the WS, but got to the highest stage. In the end this is baseball, and anything can happen.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRightFieldPavilion I can understand the accusation of sour grapes. I openly admit to being a Blue Jays fan, but more importantly I am a baseball fan. When a player signs the biggest contract in sports history in one of the biggest markets there are going to be certain expectations placed on that player off the field. It has happened recently with Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper, Mike Trout, and will happen again soon with Juan Soto. Ohtani has made his choice with a desire to win. That in itself is setting him up as a villain to other fan bases. It was also announced today that Mizuhara stole $16 million for Ohtani. In no way do I believe Ohtani bet on baseball, but to suggest there isn't an issue feels naive to me (Not that you suggested this). As for 2020, the game was the game. They earned a championship. I respect it more than the 2017 Astros, but a full season title in the next couple of years would help. I do appreciate the comment and opinion. I appreciate the debates and opinions of others.

You know what they say about conspiracy theorists: It may be dumb to take everything at face value BUT it's even dumber to believe everything in front of you is a conspiracy, e.g., gravity is not real.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

I do not believe Ohtani bet on baseball. In fact I quote an article that proves he did not. What I am suggesting is that by putting himself into a different role there are certain changes he will need to make.

@RunForPeace-hk1cu

2 ай бұрын

@@3up3down like stop listening to people like you. 🤣🤣🤣

You want him to open up and not close off because he is the biggest star in MLB right now? What an elementary mindset. You begin to sound like those delusional fanatics who feel entitled to the personal lives of their idols. LOL. And to all the haters out there, sorry to be disappointed that THE FEDS themselves said that Shohei is a victim, that his interpreter/assistant/defacto manager stole millions from him. I know you all want him to be guilty but too bad, he isnt. He is only guilty of being stupid, too trusting, gullible, oblivious of his own money. Btw, if you cant believe how his Ippei stole from him, I suggest you listen to the news conference of the feds. If still can't believe it, well, there have been many celebrities that have been victims of someone close to them and stealing millions from them as well. If you still can't believe it? Oh, well, hater. =) Sleep well at night.

@3up3down

2 ай бұрын

I quote the article saying he is innocent. This video was released before the full report. In no way do I believe Ohtani bet on baseball. As outlined this is about other Ohtani choices (deferred money, chasing rings, not stepping up for the game) just like when LeBron went to Miami