Where Will MLB Expand To? What Will Realignment Look Like?

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I take a look at the cities with the best odds to add a MLB team through expansion. We also look at a few different options for realignment.
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  • @jordanmiller4102
    @jordanmiller410211 күн бұрын

    Carolina Hurricanes are thriving in Raleigh, not Charlotte.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    My apologies if I did say Charlotte. I certainly meant Raleigh. My brother is a Canes fan so my apologies

  • @Mclark112522

    @Mclark112522

    Күн бұрын

    Yes Charlotte as it is top 5 growing cities in the country. Raleigh would just be horrible as it put it as far from the bulk of the Carolinas as possible. I hate that the hockey team is in Raleigh because I never go. It’s too far and I guarantee most people from South Carolina wouldn’t go to Raleigh for a hockey game either so Charlotte is a much better location and has the population to support

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Күн бұрын

    @@Mclark112522 thanks for the insight. Sounds like Charlotte is the place to be

  • @ancestralFromWesnoth
    @ancestralFromWesnoth11 күн бұрын

    Your realignment is spot on. Some of the realignment proposals I’ve seen floated around are absolutely impractical. We’ve been down this road before in the past - the more boring, least disruptive realignment will win out. The Central divisions end up becoming the North, while the South divisions are created with outcasts. AL East, AL North, NL North, and NL West make the most sense to me. Rays, Royals, Pirates, and Rockies are clearly the odd ducks, being the newest to their divisions and the furthest geographically from their neighbors. I really do like returning the Pirates to the East, where they used to play, and gain playing against their inner-state rival Phillies. I agree that if Texas gets a team you can’t have all three Texas teams in one division - it would be a marketing and broadcasting failure. And I like your idea of flipping the Rays and Rockies, as they are then closer to other like teams (Rockies and Royals, Rays and Marlins and Braves). I think maybe the Braves complain the most with the new realignment, but hey, they were in the out-of-place NL West for 27 years… hopefully geography wins out here.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I appreciate it. I really hope geography wins out too. I think it makes the most sense for baseball and really promotes those division rivalries baseball is known for. I found the NL Central to be a challenge to deal with. It may be the best current division in terms of geography. I appreciate you saw that connection getting the Pirates back to the NL East with the Phillies.

  • @k7j6
    @k7j65 күн бұрын

    One thing I’d like to see in expansion teams would be at least 1 or 2 extra Canadian Based Clubs. I’d like to see either Vancouver, Edmonton, or Calgary to get a team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 күн бұрын

    I'd love to see that too, but sadly the market just isn't big enough with enough sponsorship

  • @josephmangone4926
    @josephmangone492610 күн бұрын

    I think COL & TB should stat in their current leagues. UTAH in the AL West; NASHVILLE in the NL South. Done.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    That would make it Texas, Houston, KC, TB in one and Miami, Atlanta, Nashville, Colorado in the other. It's possible, but if I'm Colorado I hate that

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph348812 күн бұрын

    Sadly, the Expos aren't coming back this time. So, my dream of seeing the Expos redux is fading. 😔 I'll be 70 if I make it to expansion this time. 🤞

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    I really want them back too, but I don't see the fit for the league. They almost need to have the stadium first and that's not happening

  • @thomasjoseph3488

    @thomasjoseph3488

    12 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Yes, and it appears the various governmental authorities are progressively hostile. Bronfman was honest in a recent interview that the dismissal of the ill-fated Rays shared-city plan badly set back Montréal's chances. Expansion teams are too expensive.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    @@thomasjoseph3488 they really are expensive. I liked the shared city plan. Unfortunately, it looks like it may have been used by the Rays to get a new stadium

  • @robserrano8971
    @robserrano89719 күн бұрын

    I wud add 6 teams 3AL and 3NL. One team per division. One AL and one NL every two years. AL WEST PORTLAND LUMBERJAX, AL CENTRAL LOUISVILLE STALLIONS, AL EAST CAROLINA COPPERHEADS. NL-WEST UTAH SWARM, NL CENTRAL NASHVILLE STARS, NL EAST MONTREAL EXPOS.

  • @robserrano8971

    @robserrano8971

    9 күн бұрын

    Option B... VANCOUVER VOYAGERS AL WEST, OKC OUTLAWS AL CENTRAL, KENTUCKY COLONELS AL CENTRAL AND MOVING PITTSBURGH PIRATES TO AL EAST. UTAH SWARM NL WEST, NASHVILLE STARS NL CENTRAL, CAROLINA COPPERHEADS NL EAST.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I like the idea. I mentioned in another post that the issue I could see is finding pitching for all those teams.

  • @stevenlapidus5939

    @stevenlapidus5939

    20 сағат бұрын

    Would make more senses to have a Louisville team in the NL with the Reds. Then move the Brewers back to the AL.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    20 сағат бұрын

    @@stevenlapidus5939 In this situation I like that.

  • @raylopez99
    @raylopez9911 күн бұрын

    I don't even follow baseball anymore and I will subscribe simply because of the homework done by the host on this matter...like a high level corporate debriefing. Impressive.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @peopleskarmasquad1042

    @peopleskarmasquad1042

    5 күн бұрын

    You better start following baseball and support your team. Do it now.

  • @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
    @EarnestWilliamsGeofferic10 күн бұрын

    Louisiana has some great college teams. It deserves an MLB team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    I certainly think it would support an MLB team. Would New Orleans have enough big business for sponsors and a potential ownership group? I know the Saints are well supported. I just don't know the area well enough and have not heard anything about a possible team there.

  • @davidtosh7200
    @davidtosh720010 күн бұрын

    Like to see the two relocated teams, such as: Oakland A’s move to Las Vegas Nevada, and either Tampa Bay Rays or Miami Marlins will move to Salt Lake City Utah, since Utah will be the fastest growing state into 2030.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    You'll almost for sure see Oakland to Las Vegas. Tampa has plans for a new stadium and Miami is stable and not looking to move right now

  • @jasonfire3434

    @jasonfire3434

    9 күн бұрын

    The team that is likely to move is Kansas City, because of stadium issues

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@jasonfire3434 I have a feeling they get that figured out.

  • @AlterverseX

    @AlterverseX

    9 күн бұрын

    I don't think Kansas City will move for stadium issues. I've followed that issue and it looks like they have plenty of opportunities for a new stadium outside of their preferred location (which involves razing a thriving arts and entertainment district). They want a view of the downtown skyline which is the new, hip thing but in the grand scheme is unimportant if they are only competitive for a couple years every 30 years. If anything, they will exit the Kansas City market to drive ticket sales from a new fanbase, not for facilities.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@AlterverseX thanks for the insight. I'd say competitive more every 10 years. They are a smaller market that has struggled with sustained success. I've heard a possible move across the state may be possible, but I'm thinking they get this done in KC

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph348812 күн бұрын

    Interestingly, Louisville was bigger than both Nashville and Atlanta in 1948. Lack of local leadership and vision have relegated Louisville to second -tier status forever. Congrats in advance, Music City.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    I'm always surprised a major sport hasn't made its way to Louisville

  • @thomasjoseph3488

    @thomasjoseph3488

    12 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down College town first and foremost. Wish our old ABA Kentucky Colonels had joined the NBA with the other four teams almost 50 years ago. Wearing my Colonels T-shirt as I type this!

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    @@thomasjoseph3488 very nice!

  • @robertwayne808

    @robertwayne808

    8 күн бұрын

    As close as Louisville is to Cincinnati, the Reds would probably fight expansion to Louisville tooth and nail.

  • @thomasjoseph3488

    @thomasjoseph3488

    8 күн бұрын

    @@robertwayne808 Oh, for sure. MLB could never happen here.

  • @wallyjackson3133
    @wallyjackson31336 күн бұрын

    I cannot believe San Antonio and Green Bay do not have baseball teams

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    I can see San Antonio, but Green Bay is far too small and Milwaukee exists for that reason.

  • @S_Over_Street
    @S_Over_Street11 күн бұрын

    Nice video detailing possible expansion. As a Mariners fan, it would be nice to see a western team as one of the 2 new teams because they travel the most out of any MLB team. Portland would be a great rival but I think Mariners ownership doesn’t want a team there cause it would take away the Oregon market for them. I do like SLC as an option too if Portland doesn’t work out. Also the images you had up while discussing SLC wasn’t anything remotely looking like the state of Utah or SLC area. That looked like Cincinnati & some Asian metro area.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed it. That is the trouble with expansion and trying to create rivalries between cities close together. Teams enjoy the benefit that come from the rivalry, but don't want to give up their television and fan rights. I do apologize if they are incorrect images. They came up for Salt Lake city in search results and I have never been to confirm the images.

  • @retailhiphop1991
    @retailhiphop19916 күн бұрын

    Nice work! I did a full proposal on reddit that included Nashville and Salt Lake City and A's to Vegas. I came with the exact divisions.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    Thank you! I think it makes a lot of sense

  • @ATCguy1973
    @ATCguy197311 күн бұрын

    The only issue I really see with Charlotte is the Braves, Nationals and possibly the Orioles claiming that area for their fanbases. I'm not sure MLB would want one of their new franchises to pay a territory fee.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I could see that being an issue. I do think if MLB wants to really realign in terms of geography then Charlotte makes a lot of sense. I know the Orioles and Nationals really fought over tv area rights when the Nationals moved in. Ideally MLB could work with the teams to broker a deal over area rights before the announcement of expansion.

  • @ATCguy1973

    @ATCguy1973

    11 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down yeah but Nashville would be a better option for a southeast team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    @@ATCguy1973 I would favor Nashville as well over Charlotte. I just think Charlotte has the possibility of a strong ownership group in a solid sports locale.

  • @ATCguy1973

    @ATCguy1973

    11 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down yes I agree. But a Nashville franchise will have a better chance to compete financially right away like the owners would like. Charlotte would take a few years to compete much to the commissioner's chagrin. It doesn't work that way for expansion franchises anymore. Look at Vegas and Seattle for the NHL. That's the new direction for new franchises in the major 4 sports.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    @@ATCguy1973 I think the ability to be competitive early on will be very much tied to how an expansion draft is carried out. The number of protected players would greatly effect this. Also Seattle and Vegas came in on their own. If MLB were to expand by 2 I think it would be 2 teams at the same time (they have typically done this). That would change any expansion draft scenario. PLus MLB does not allow the trading of draft picks. The NHL teams really used that to their advantage.

  • @ronclark9724
    @ronclark972410 күн бұрын

    I don't see how the MLB will IGNORE South Central Texas, either San Antonio or Austin. These two large metros are 70 miles apart, even the US Census Bureau will most likely combined the two metros into one soon. Both metros have a combined population of SIX million already, growing quickly... SIX million is TWICE the size of the others you rewarded a MLB franchise... Twice Portland, Salt Lake City, Nashville, and Charlotte... When Texas surpasses California in population within the next two decades, Texas should have as many MLB teams as California, presently with five... Three isn't too many!

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    I'm not suggesting 3 is too many. It does come with territory issues though. The Rangers and Astros will have some say. Plus TV rights could be a real factor here. The area and population can absolutely support more. It just brings complications that Utah doesn't. I have openly supported expansion to Austin in previous videos and do prefer it over many others. I was just trying to show who is best prepared and what it could look like at this time. Not trying to leave anyone out

  • @Weidneriffic

    @Weidneriffic

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I think Nashville is too small and Vegas is saturated with new teams.

  • @davidchaffin9048
    @davidchaffin904811 күн бұрын

    Interesting. I believe MLB will go with the 4 divisions in each league and have 6 teams make the playoffs in each league. I believe Nashville will get one of the expansion teams and the other will be out west. I would love to see San Antonio get it but I think Salt Lake City will get the nod.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the comment. I think the 4 divisions in each is the likely outcome. I do enjoy the set up with 2 divisions in each, but in the end it probably is not the way it goes

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover106010 күн бұрын

    My top choices are somewhere in North Carolina, probably Charlotte, but Raleigh is also fine, and Portland to connect Seattle to the rest of the league. Otherwise, I wouldn't hate putting Montreal back in as the Expos.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    I like the choices! Thanks for the comment

  • @blueredlover1060

    @blueredlover1060

    9 күн бұрын

    Also worth noting, I don't think that they'd stop at just 2 more teams. I could very easily see a route to a 40 team MLB. In that scenario, Charlotte, Nashville, Salt Lake City, Montreal, and Portland are all easily in place. Another 5 teams would be in order, which is how you could get San Antonio in. The last 4 become difficult to figure out for me.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@blueredlover1060 it'll depend a lot on the grassroots level and development of players. Needing pitchers for 40 teams with the injuries currently happening would be a nightmare. I'd love expansion to all, but only with stability for all.

  • @blueredlover1060

    @blueredlover1060

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I agree with the injury stuff, but I think we're going to end up going through another philosophy change with pitchers soon. We're going to have to go through one. We know that the upper 90s aren't sustainable, so it may come down to lowering the speed a bit and having greater command. We may even see the return of the knuckleballer.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@blueredlover1060 it'll have to make its way all the way down to kids and those coaches. Given the value of contracts and scholarships it'll be tough to change without some sort of rule change. Way too many kids are being taught to max out way too often way too young

  • @willp.8120
    @willp.81204 күн бұрын

    I say expand to 40 teams. Add 10 new teams because there are a lot of metros that have grown a lot in recent decades which aren't really getting their fair share of teams. I'd do eight divisions with five teams per division. NL East: NY Mets, Philadelphia, Montreal, Washington, Miami NL South: Atlanta, Orlando, Tampa Bay, Charlotte, Nashville NL North: Cincinnati, Chicago Cubs, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Pittsburgh NL West: Arizona, LA Dodgers, San Diego, Colorado, San Francisco AL East: NY Yankees, Boston, Baltimore, Toronto, Raleigh AL North: Detroit, Chicago White Sox, Minnesota, Kansas City, Cleveland AL Southwest: Texas, Houston, LA Angels, Las Vegas, Austin AL Northwest: Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, Salt Lake City, Sacramento

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 күн бұрын

    I love the optimism. We are a long way away from 40, but I love it!

  • @zachattack245
    @zachattack24511 күн бұрын

    I'd like to see Utah/Salt Lake city. Utah is getting the former Arizona hockey team and has an NBA franchise. It's also a fast-growing and young city/state, which is prime territory for expansion. They would have a natural rivalry with Colorado as well as Las Vegas, and a stadium in that region would rival Coors in natural beauty.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I completely agree with the chance to build a beautiful stadium and the rivalries. They certainly seem to have a motivated ownership group or groups as well as the city desiring the opportunity. Salt Lake feels like a great location.

  • @thomasjoseph3488

    @thomasjoseph3488

    11 күн бұрын

    SLC has motivated and qualified investors, for sure.

  • @larrystaley21

    @larrystaley21

    9 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately, appears the Utah Jazz will NEVER win an NBA Championship.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@larrystaley21 I'll be watching the hockey team carefully the next 2 years to see if they can attract free agent talent

  • @justinturley7071
    @justinturley707111 күн бұрын

    Has an Expos cap on, wears a Toronto Blue Jays hoodie. Seems legit.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    Canadian baseball fan. It was a sad time watching the Expos go. I grew up loving Vlad, Vidro, and the group

  • @isaacy2718
    @isaacy271811 күн бұрын

    Good video! I feel like a city you didn't mention is the city of Oakland. Despite the team leaving, many want the city to have a baseball team (both the city and execs alike), and would likely thrive under new onwership.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much. I appreciate the comment and think you are right. It's likely going to take a few years once the A's are gone for us to truly see the potential in Oakland. The issue would be to find an ownership group that can get a stadium deal done with the city. I do think you are rightbthat baseball still needs to consider it. The NHL is doing that with Arizona

  • @isaacy2718

    @isaacy2718

    10 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down True, the owner of the Warriors (Lacob) has expressed interest when the A's were on the market in 2010, and I think he's open to bidding for another one for Oakland, but I'm not sure :)

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    @@isaacy2718 Hopefully in time Oakland can be considered. It certainly has a strong history and could build a beautiful park on the bay

  • @davelb87
    @davelb8710 күн бұрын

    Footprint of the Charlotte park is way too small. Park is already on the small side by AAA standards and has no room to expand.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the insight. It's not a park I know. I know the Jays made it work at an A ball park in Dunedin during the pandemic. I assumed there would be a way to adjust a AAA park to work in the short term. Long term it would absolutely need a new build.

  • @stevenlapidus5939
    @stevenlapidus593920 сағат бұрын

    Hopefully the Milwaukee Brewers can move back to the American League. Would be nice watching them actually play our rivals White Sox's, Twins, Tigers, Indians, and the Royals.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    20 сағат бұрын

    I'm not sure I see a situation where this happens, but they would be an option to move if needed

  • @tonyftony716
    @tonyftony71611 күн бұрын

    No chance of a complete mixing up of teams? I am in the Northeast and many want the Yankees/Mets/Red Sox and Phillies in one division. Nobody in our area cares about a rivalry with Toronto (No offense)

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I'm not against it (as a Jays fan I'd love to get away from the Yankees/Red Sox). It would effect attendance as smaller teams really rely on the dollars of travelling fans from the big market teams (think Yankees fans at Rays games). I know there is no longer the DH, but some may like to keep the tradition of teams alive and connected to the American and National leagues. I think it could work in the Northeast as it keeps rivalries together (Yankees/Red Sox, etc), but the West Coast might be odd as it may split teams like Giants/Dodgers that are also a huge part of the game if we go strictly geography. I appreciate the comment as it is certainly an interesting idea

  • @sunny1992s
    @sunny1992s10 күн бұрын

    As a Braves fan, seeing the Braves leave the NL East would be strange. The Braves/Mets/Phillies rivalry is too strong to break up. I get geography is the goal, but maybe MLB would treat the NL East the same way the NFL treats the NFC East(letting the Cowboys be in a division based in the northeast).

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    In some ways I think any realignment will feel strange, but necessary. Given the Braves were in the NL West from 1969 to 1994 I think this change would make sense.

  • @sunny1992s

    @sunny1992s

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I get that. Its going to be a tough pill to swallow. At least you didnt split the Cubs/Cards.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@sunny1992s I don't think they would ever be split

  • @Weidneriffic
    @Weidneriffic10 күн бұрын

    Charlotte would be a better choice than Nashville. It’s close enough to the South Carolina border so that it represents both Carolinas. The Charlotte metro area will soon have over 3 million residents, which makes it much larger than about a third of the current major league markets.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    I like the thought of Charlotte. As someone mentioned it may have some issues with other teams like Baltimore and Washington claiming the area. That could always be worked out. In certainly has the big businesses to be sponsors

  • @Weidneriffic

    @Weidneriffic

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I believe Charlotte is closer to Atlanta. South Carolina is definitely Braves Country. I think all of those teams would make excellent rivals for a Charlotte franchise.

  • @michaelleroy9281
    @michaelleroy928111 күн бұрын

    2030, still 6 years away in 2026 there could be another strike if a labor agreement isn't reached

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    It's possible. Given the lost revenue on both sides in 2020 I feel like an agreement will be reached. The levels of luxury tax (possible minimum?) And deferred money will be issues I'm sure.

  • @josephlucas3099
    @josephlucas309911 күн бұрын

    I agree with 814 divisions. I agree with the potential markets. Your alignment however, is flawed. If every team is going to play every team every year, there’s no reason to have American in National League. It will end up being cheaper and easier to have geographically located teams and eliminate the American other than to say, the east would be the American League West would be the National League or vice versa.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the opinion. I greatly appreciate the history of baseball and would love to see the tradition of American and National League be kept. I think it does help for playoffs as well so you still have 2 sides. If they want to go entirely geographic I fear the loss of old rivalries. The Dodgers and Giants as an example would likely be seperated. If there is a way to keep the traditional rivalries than it certainly is possible.

  • @BoondockBrony
    @BoondockBrony9 күн бұрын

    San Antonio is an aging city. While baseball fans tend to skew older, I don't see them as a longstanding baseball team given that MLB is the odd duck of the big four. A big reason why I prefer the A's to stay in Sacramento or move to Utah is due to the fact that I don't see Las Vegas as fitting locally as a baseball city. The NFL was perfect for it due to the short season and the other sports are just objectively faster paced than baseball. A tourist is probably not going to visit Vegas for an MLB season. I just want Portland to have a team so the Mariners won't be in this Rockies situation where you kinda have to root for them if you're even remotely local.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I'm wondering if Las Vegas will be a baseball town or not. I have a hard time believing it will be. Although I thought the same thing about hockey and that has worked well. I feel like Austin would be the favorite over San Antonio, but money talks and we may find out what owners and city want it more if it comes to that.

  • @BoondockBrony

    @BoondockBrony

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Yeah, again I think most of the income will come from secondary and tertiary sources if the A's last in Vegas I think Fisher grossly overestimates the tourism. Not because Vegas isn't a gold mine it is, but only a baseball tourist would be drawn to them and they are not the norm. Austin is more viable than San Antonio but I have heard there's no real place to build there and both Houston and Arlington are close to Austin. It's like a stop gap between the two from my cursory glance.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@BoondockBrony the issue for Las Vegas is its also not an expansion team. People can see it right now and if management keeps trading away pieces and stripping it down no one will come watch. Sure they'll come for a few years with a new park and experience, but it won't last. I know Texas is huge and growing, but something about 3 teams feels a little much right now

  • @dustinrobertson5416
    @dustinrobertson541611 күн бұрын

    I hope that it's San Antonio and either Charlotte or Portland. Oklahoma City is another sleeper you forgot to mention. They're doing well with an NBA team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I think San Antonio is possible. To my knowledge there is no ownership group really set up. Same with Oklahoma city, although maybe the minor league owners in these cities could step up. I've talked about them in previous videos. They are contenders, but just not as far along in the process as others

  • @dustinrobertson5416

    @dustinrobertson5416

    11 күн бұрын

    @@3up3downAustin is also another possibility. It's the fastest growing city in America. The population here has almost tripled since I first moved here back in the 90's.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    @@dustinrobertson5416 would it be a place that would embrace baseball? I like the idea. Others say it's more of a soccer city. I always appreciate the perspective of those in the area.

  • @ronclark9724

    @ronclark9724

    10 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Do you really think there isn't a Texas billionaire willing to buy a MLB expansion franchise for South Central Texas? The ownership of the Spurs IS interested in buying a MLB team although I am sure others will come forward. A downtown location on the Riverwalk has already been sited for a new baseball stadium for AAA ball, which can be easily upgraded to MLB...

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    @@ronclark9724 I'm not suggesting there isn't one. Assuming there is (and that is likely) they just aren't making the same amount as noise as other groups. A Texas team could come with issues over territory with the Rangers and Astros. Obviously these could be worked out, but Utah wouldn't have those complications

  • @bengalsfan97
    @bengalsfan9710 күн бұрын

    When talking about Portland why did you show a photo of Cincinnati just curious lol

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    My apologies if I did. I do not know the city and trusted the search and photos of getty images as well as other free stock videos. Apparently they were labelled incorrectly

  • @bengalsfan97

    @bengalsfan97

    10 күн бұрын

    No worries it’s all good

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    @@bengalsfan97 thanks, hope you still enjoyed it

  • @bengalsfan97

    @bengalsfan97

    10 күн бұрын

    Definitely

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    @@bengalsfan97 Awesome

  • @marcsonnenberg623
    @marcsonnenberg6238 күн бұрын

    I know this will NEVER happen, but the quality of talent is already watered down. On most teams there are 1 or 2 guys who really belong in AAA. Adding 2 teams will make the quality of MLB teams even worse. Then when you figure in the attendance figures, you could easily come to the conclusion that instead of Expanding by 2 teans, they really should be contracting 2 teams. The Oakland A's should be contracted out of existence (my opinion) instead of moving to Sacramento>Las Vegas. There also doesn't need to be 2 teams in Florida. Neither one gets good attendance. My solution would be to have 1 Team in Orlando in a really fancy new domed stadium close to Disney. That 1 Florida team, centrally located and by Disney would surely do better attendance wise. Of course we all know that will never happen. Manfred will pursue the 2 new markets and the talent pool will be watered down even further, adding 52 more AAA players. Rays and Marlins attendance will never be good, and the Vegas experiment won't work out as hoped either. Just wait and see. As far as expansion, I believe they would go with 4 divisions of 4 teams each in both league. The 4 divisional champion, plus 2 wild cards in each league.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    I know contraction has been talked about in the past, but yes it's highly unlikely. I agree with you that each team has at least 1 to 2 guys on their roster in AAA. I would argue there are at least 1 to 2 on every AAA roster that should be I the majors, but aren't due to playing and service time. I think with mlb trending younger there will still be quality talent for another 2 teams. Oakland moving should help. I seriously still question Tampa and like them to go to Orlando. Thanks for the thoughts and comment!

  • @blacksportsguru
    @blacksportsguru11 күн бұрын

    The white Sox are relocating to Nashville or Charlotte

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    That is a possibility. I feel like that situation should be worked out for a new stadium, but I feel like government politics and funding could get ugly in those negotiations. The White Sox need to stay, but I guess we will see.

  • @michaelleroy9281

    @michaelleroy9281

    11 күн бұрын

    So 24 out of 30 owners are going to vote for leaving Chicago top media market for Charlotte and Nashville both in the 20' s for media market size ? We'll see in about 5 or 6 years

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    @@michaelleroy9281 I would really doubt they leave, but without a stadium it could be a possibility. More likely the White Sox ownership will use the threat to get more public funds out of the city and state to renovate or build a new stadium.

  • @jwchamberlain5862

    @jwchamberlain5862

    4 күн бұрын

    Hope not. Enjoy going to a Sox game even if the team sucks

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 күн бұрын

    @@jwchamberlain5862 I think they'll stay. I want to go to try the campfire smores drink I've heard so much about

  • @AlexanderWSchneider-km4im
    @AlexanderWSchneider-km4im9 күн бұрын

    New Orleans doesn’t even have a minor league b-ball team that will not happen

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    Maybe that's where it needs to start. Not necessarily New Orleans, but somewhere in Louisiana

  • @rileyholden-zc9ip
    @rileyholden-zc9ip9 күн бұрын

    We need a team in Montreal and Sacramento

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    Looks like you'll get the Sacramento team for a few years. Maybe with a good run it could attract expansion

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph348812 күн бұрын

    Well done.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @normiewoo787
    @normiewoo7878 күн бұрын

    San Antonio and Jacksonville makes more sense to me. They are larger metro areas than any of the cities you mentioned.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    7 күн бұрын

    I think San Antonio could be possible, but I think Jacksonville would be a hard sell. Population doesn't mean much if they don't attend. Miami and Tampa already struggle enough with attendance

  • @normiewoo787

    @normiewoo787

    7 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down The Jaguars are 17th out of 32 teams in attendance, outperforming the Tennessee Titans by a lot, and averaging only a few thousand tickets less than Carolina.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    7 күн бұрын

    @@normiewoo787 the Miami Marlins are 29th in attendance averaging 12665 and Tampa is 28th averaging 16145. It's just not a consistent baseball state

  • @normiewoo787

    @normiewoo787

    7 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Fair enough. I'm hoping Jacksonville can prove to be different.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    7 күн бұрын

    @@normiewoo787 it would be great if it could. We need the best for baseball. Thanks for the comments and checking out the channel

  • @mtverv
    @mtverv8 күн бұрын

    Well Nashville is basically a lock lol but the 2 most likely to be the 2nd city are Salt Lake City and one of Austin/San Antonio. San Antonio is going to be hard to turn down with its 3 million Metro Area and only 1 other Professional team in the Spurs. I’d be happy with either one but would prefer Salt Lake…

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    I'd prefer Salt Lake as well, but we will see. I think they have ownership around that is highly motivated. I'm not as sure of that with the Texas cities

  • @willp.8120

    @willp.8120

    4 күн бұрын

    Austin will pass San Antonio in population within the next five years. It only has MLS and none from the other big sports leagues.

  • @rfe8nn2
    @rfe8nn2Күн бұрын

    I think MLB should look at the NHL 4 divisions top 2 gets in and 2 wc's.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Күн бұрын

    I like the 4 division idea and top 2 in. I'm personally not a fan of the nhl playoff format. But that's just me. I appreciate thebideas and comment!

  • @rfe8nn2

    @rfe8nn2

    Күн бұрын

    @@3up3down My other idea was just 2 divisions with top 3 with wild cards. Right now today having a third division doesn't matter if the winner doesn't crack the top 2.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Күн бұрын

    @@rfe8nn2 2 divisions could get tough creating a balanced schedule. I think that would really increase potential travel. More divisions typically means less travel

  • @rfe8nn2

    @rfe8nn2

    Күн бұрын

    @@3up3down True.

  • @nicholasciviero7289
    @nicholasciviero72896 күн бұрын

    Not buying the Tampa Rays stadium situation though.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    It still has hurdles to be cleared for sure. If done right I think they deserve a chance to make it work

  • @tahuyachris
    @tahuyachris10 күн бұрын

    I really hope Portland gets an MLB expansion team! I have lived in Oregon for almost 23 years. But, I lived west of Seattle for 14 1/2 years beforehand. All of my sports loyalties are still in Washington state: the Washington Huskies; Seattle Seahawks; Seattle Supersonics/Sonics; Seattle Kraken; Seattle Sounders; Seattle Mariners. I would love to see the Mariners have a closer opponent San Francisco or Las Vegas!!!

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    It sure looks like they will get Las Vegas. I know the group is Portland is well organized and prepared to make a big push. Given you know the area, is there a lot of fan interest? Is there a great site for a stadium?

  • @peopleskarmasquad1042

    @peopleskarmasquad1042

    7 күн бұрын

    The Mariner ownership has been fighting against expansion in Portland and Vancouver BC. Fear of drawing fans away from Seattle. I see Miami moving North because of lack of significant attendance.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    7 күн бұрын

    @@peopleskarmasquad1042 it makes sense why they are. When it comes to expansion I think every location will have this issue. In the end the high expansion fee will help owners get over it

  • @k7j6

    @k7j6

    5 күн бұрын

    Portland does NOT deserve to have an MLB team AT ALL. Oregon doesn’t deserve any Semi Pro or Pro Team of any kind. It is bad enough there is an MLS & NBA team there.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 күн бұрын

    @@k7j6 seems a little harsh

  • @rfe8nn2
    @rfe8nn2Күн бұрын

    All divisions champions should get in the playoffs.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Күн бұрын

    I agree with that. It's in there

  • @sickboy703
    @sickboy70311 күн бұрын

    UK will eventually get a team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    That would be interesting. I do not know how you handle the travel dynamic. It also makes tv a challenge with the huge time difference. I lived for a year in the UK, and am skeptical of the support a team would get.

  • @BigMcFlips
    @BigMcFlips14 сағат бұрын

    9:35 That's a shot of Cincinnati. I think it will be Salt Lake City and Nashville. That's what I hope for anyways.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 сағат бұрын

    I do apologize for that clip. It was labeled incorrectly and I just don't know the views of the city. I think you have a good chance of seeing that.

  • @BigMcFlips

    @BigMcFlips

    4 сағат бұрын

    @@3up3down no worries. I live in Cincinnati. I'm a Reds season ticket holder. Just pointing it out. Good job on the video.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 сағат бұрын

    @@BigMcFlips thank you. I hope your Reds make a run. They've got a fun team to watch

  • @BigMcFlips

    @BigMcFlips

    4 сағат бұрын

    @@3up3down thanks. I'm hoping like hell lol.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 сағат бұрын

    @@BigMcFlips enjoy the season

  • @JaredHargrave
    @JaredHargrave10 күн бұрын

    Ha ha ha! Your videos of what is supposed to be Salt Lake City look more like Vancouver... or maybe a city in Indonesia. Maybe double check your search results next time if you're relying on that for stock footage.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    My apologies if they are incorrect. The videos were labelled with those cities and I have never been to them. In the end it's the information that counts

  • @don63
    @don638 күн бұрын

    Not in florida.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    I'd say it's at it's max. Maybe a relocation to Orlando?

  • @Salazar824
    @Salazar8243 күн бұрын

    Dude Tennessee or North Carolina is a sweet spot for a new team, then out mid west prolly Iowa or Nebraska…..?

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    3 күн бұрын

    I don't know if you have enough population or big business for sponsorship in Nebraska or Iowa. I think it would be a huge hit in those states, just not enough people.

  • @Salazar824

    @Salazar824

    3 күн бұрын

    Welp, the A’s are homeless playing in front of 500 people. So i have a strong feeling that these states will support a Major League Baseball franchise, also there isn’t any other major sports franchises in the area so definitely a big deal.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Salazar824 I agree that a lack of pro sports in the area would help, but it's also a sign that owners do not believe it would work. Sadly I think the Oakland attendance is more about the owner not caring then the fans not caring.

  • @alexisschill
    @alexisschill12 күн бұрын

  • @gerardscimeca2487
    @gerardscimeca2487Сағат бұрын

    Colorado plays in the west, San Antonio in the south - Portland is not getting a team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Сағат бұрын

    The question that keeps coming up is where to build a stadium in San Antonio. I don't know the area, but am told there is no good place and traffic is a nightmare

  • @thomasjoseph3488
    @thomasjoseph348812 күн бұрын

    I agree that eight divisions is a subtle and smart tag-along way of expanding the lucrative playoffs with the two teams. Expanded playoffs mitigates (but does not solve) MLB's systemic financial inequities.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    I actually prefer the 4 division look, but I really think the 8 division is where it's going

  • @thomasjoseph3488

    @thomasjoseph3488

    12 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Me, too, but the eight segments make another playoff expansion easy and the money is too tempting. It does help the low-income teams "just get in," broadening the possible WS winner pools.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    @@thomasjoseph3488 agreed. I just enjoy the baseball playoffs being special with fewer teams, but the almighty dollar will always win

  • @peopleskarmasquad1042
    @peopleskarmasquad10425 күн бұрын

    Mexico City perhaps?

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 күн бұрын

    I've talked about it in a previous video. Not now, but maybe in the future. One of the issues is the elevation. It's worse than Colorado by a lot.

  • @dennisstrand5566
    @dennisstrand55668 күн бұрын

    Right now, there are 4 to many teams. There should be only 26 teams in MLB. because of lack of tallest.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the comment, but have to agree to disagree. I think there is a huge amount of talent, but some us hidden in the minors due to playing time and to avoid service time

  • @rufust.firefly4890

    @rufust.firefly4890

    14 сағат бұрын

    I remember when their were 10 teams in each league and no playoffs, just right to the WS.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 сағат бұрын

    @@rufust.firefly4890 money has certainly grown the game

  • @dogcowrph
    @dogcowrph9 күн бұрын

    Buffalo should have a team.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    Think they'll have to manage for now with the Bisons

  • @wallyjackson3133
    @wallyjackson31336 күн бұрын

    What no baseball team in beautiful New Orleans

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    It may have a fan base, but lacks an ownership group or any plans for a stadium

  • @arandomdudeontheinternet5792
    @arandomdudeontheinternet57929 күн бұрын

    Here is my proposal that I think would work out AL East: Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Orioles NL East: Mets, Phillies, Pirates, Nationals AL West: Angels, Mariners, A’s, SLC Expansion NL West: Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Dbacks AL South: Rangers, Astros, Rays, Royals NL South: Braves, Marlins, Reds, Nashville Expansion AL North: Tigers, White Sox, Twins, Guardians NL North: Cubs, Cardinals, Brewers, Rockies. It limits the amount of travel for the most part while still keeping the existing teams in the same leagues, some of these could be interchangeable, like maybe having KC in the north and Cleveland in the South, or moving the Nats to the south and bringing a Montreal Expansion to the north.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    Very similar. The AL south travel would be tough in the division. Same for the Rockies. Just my opinion thought. Solid idea, thanks for the comment!

  • @evrbody
    @evrbody9 күн бұрын

    This is an alignment I came up with a couple of years ago. AL East: Baltimore, Boston, New York, Toronto AL North: Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota AL South: Houston, Nashville, Tampa Bay, Texas AL West: Kansas City, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Seattle NL East: Atlanta, New York, Philadelphia, Washington NL North: Chicago, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Portland NL South: Arizona, Cincinnati, Miami, St. Louis NL West: Colorado, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I don't mind the AL. For me in the NL I just can't seperate the Cubs and Cards. That Portland to Pittsburgh and Miami to Phoenix trips in the division would ge rough. I do appreciate the comment and ideas!

  • @luberdoo1950

    @luberdoo1950

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I agree with your sentiment. Cubs and Cards are perhaps the 3rd top rivalry, and the top in the middle of the country.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@luberdoo1950 it's been going so long it needs to stay together

  • @Scott-vk4jv
    @Scott-vk4jv8 күн бұрын

    I know expansion is inevitable but I am not a fan. Talent, especially pitching, is already too thin IMO.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    That's fair. Although I think we actually have far more pitching talent then ever before. It's just being used in different ways with starters throwing less and more bullpen arms.

  • @rufust.firefly4890

    @rufust.firefly4890

    14 сағат бұрын

    ​@@3up3down Pitchers are wimps these days. Quality start criteria is a joke. Pitch count is a joke too.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 сағат бұрын

    @@rufust.firefly4890 sorry I'm completely against this one. If pitchers were given the opportunity to consistently throw 90 mph like past generations they would be just as good. The body is not designed to consistently throw 100 mph, but to get paid that's becoming the requirement

  • @ZomegJ
    @ZomegJ9 күн бұрын

    Lol im a Rockies fan we don't need expansion some teams like mine should be demoted to AAA like in soccer.😂😂

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I feel for you. A new owner would probably help. At least Coors field is nice

  • @ZomegJ

    @ZomegJ

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down you're right the ownership because Denver is a great sports town but if the product is awful nobody is going to show up.

  • @ZomegJ

    @ZomegJ

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down great content also bro I'm subscribed.😎

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@ZomegJ thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy it!

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@ZomegJ so true. I like some of their players though. Love Tovar and Quantrill is solid

  • @cliffkealey249
    @cliffkealey249Күн бұрын

    Nashville & Salt Lake

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Күн бұрын

    I think that's where this is going

  • @ayewreckz7004
    @ayewreckz700411 күн бұрын

    how bout a team in minot, north dakota ‼️

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    Can you make that happen? I'd love that and be at lots of games!

  • @michaelleroy9281

    @michaelleroy9281

    11 күн бұрын

    Stay out of Twins Territory

  • @ayewreckz7004

    @ayewreckz7004

    11 күн бұрын

    @@michaelleroy9281 lol i’m a twins fan but a team in minot ND would be legendary. that city sucks.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    @@michaelleroy9281 I feel like Twins Territory is pretty safe

  • @rufust.firefly4890

    @rufust.firefly4890

    14 сағат бұрын

    Maybe Bloodfart, NM or possiblyCouncil Bluffs, Iowa.

  • @jondelmore3163
    @jondelmore31634 күн бұрын

    Here's how I see it.... If Tampa stays, and Oakland goes to Vegas, expand with 4 new teams. Montreal, Nashville, Vancouver, and Salt Lake City. Montreal and Vancouver will be in the AL and Nashville and SLC in the NL. Move Pittsburgh to the NL North, and move Detroit to the AL North. create divisions as North, Central, East, and West for both leagues. We'd also have to move Houston back to the NL, and move CIN to the NL EAST. This makes the most geographical sense, and keeps most of the best rivalries intact. The worst thing MLB can do is get rid of the AL and NL. I know Manfred wants to destroy the game, but they'll lose tons of fans if they get rid of the leagues. The reason why I have all Canadian teams in the AL is for a few reasons. First, it would maximize the number of times they all play each other a year. This would build rivalries amongst themselves, and other teams in close proximity, such as Vancouver and Seattle. Second, we all know that the Yankees and Red Sox have HUGE fan bases that travel really well. Those teams ALWAYS attract fans to all stadiums when attendance is down, especially for those midweek games. AL North - DET, TOR, MON, CLE AL East-TB, BAL, NYY, BOS AL Central- TEX, MIN, KC, CHI AL West - LAA, LV, VAN, SEA NL North-PHI, NYM, PIT, WSH NL East-ATL, MIA, NSH, CIN NL Central-CHI, HOU, STL, MIL NL West-COL, LAD, SF, SLC

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the thoughts and ideas. What happened to Arizona and San Diego? That's why adding 2 teams to get to 32, not 24 makes sense.

  • @jondelmore3163

    @jondelmore3163

    4 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down HAHA! I knew ther was teams i forgot! I was typing in a hurry lol.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    3 күн бұрын

    @@jondelmore3163 no problem at all. Something in the math wasn't adding up.

  • @itsglen9646
    @itsglen96469 күн бұрын

    Portland, Charlotte, Nashville, and San Antonio. But I think MLB should go bigger and adjust the playing season as well. Add Mexico City (2), Monterrey, Vancouver, Calgary, Oklahoma City, Montreal, SLC, Oakland or San Jose. Start the season in early march, front load the schedule for warm and domed parks, and end the regular season by mid-September. Reduce the number of regular season games to 140. This would reduce mid-week games, and make MLB more of an event. I think MLB would be more competitive with football in Sept and Oct this way.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I like the thought. It would be tough to have every team play every team every year and still have plenty of division games. I really like expansion south to Mexico or the Dominican. I've talked about it in some previous videos. In the end it will all be about having enough talent to sustain the game

  • @Hogtownboy1
    @Hogtownboy18 күн бұрын

    Expansion depends on the MLB forcing a salary cap. I believe the 2026 season is gone already

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    I really don't see a salary cap. Maybe a salary floor. The luxury tax works decent. They need to get rid of deferred money in contracts like Ohtani to help

  • @Hogtownboy1

    @Hogtownboy1

    8 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down the mid market teams have already set set up a lockout. ( in a past life I was a labour negotiator) the owner lost the last round but too many teams are losing money particularly as the regional broadcaster are disappearing.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    @@Hogtownboy1 they may be setting it up, but I'm really not seeing all this losing money. According to Forbes, mlb revenue was up 10% and 6 of the 30 teams lost money. The biggest being the Mets and Padres with their bloated payrolls that failed

  • @choatican
    @choaticanКүн бұрын

    Charlotte, Austin, San Antonio, or Nashville. No other cities need apply.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    Күн бұрын

    From the reports I have read it sounds like the issue with San Antonio and Austin is there is no good place to build a stadium with good transportation routes. If this is true that is a big problem

  • @ronpeacock9939
    @ronpeacock99399 күн бұрын

    MLB does not have much area that expansion can really do much with... you look at the map and see in western part large gaps... but those gaps also don't have any major cities.. for MLB expansion.. well first they have to fix Oakland.. fisher buried that.. the Rays need to leave Tampa/St. Pete area.. they are not even the #1 team in their own market and they don't share.. as far as markets wtihout teams.. Oakland will top the list very soon, Portland, Nashville Salt Lake City and Austin here in the states.. I think Montreal should be added to the list as well. If they were to fill all of those.. that would make it difficult for teams to strong arm their cities for new expensive stadiums, so maybe 2 might happen.. frankly, they need to lose the commish and go back to being separate leagues.. The charm was lost when they started interleague play and now it's really conference play. It's the major reason I really don't watch any more... I loved the 2 different styles.. that's gone.. now everyone plays it the same.. MASH

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I like Salt Lake because it does fill the gap of nothing when you look at the map. The move to interleague play really did change the game. I know the game lost a lot of that charm, but in the end money talks and that was all about giving everyone access to the best players. It sounds like the Rays are progressing to a new stadium, but the question will be if that will even help. I have always wondered if you could put a team in the large area of nothing on the map and if it would be able to draw. Of course sponsorship would be a question as well. Maybe in Idaho or Montana? Just thinking out loud. Thanks for the comment!

  • @ronpeacock9939

    @ronpeacock9939

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Idaho and Montana have less than NO chance... let's face it.. the STATE of montana has 1.2M people.. and Idaho is only a little better at 1.9.. Half of MLB has more than those numbers in their city.. States their size just don't have the population to support MLB level teams. As much as those states having so much empty.. again, the lack of people means it's a no-go. When it comes to inter-conference play.. now that the novelty as worn off.. the $$$ is not what it was.. but you can bet MLB won't ever back off. Classic democrat thinking.. if at first you don't succeed.. double down and do it again... that definition of insantiy.. doing the same thing expecting different results. Sadly, Tampa does not draw.. why? They have been the ST home for many teams over the years.. they are more Yankee fans than Rays fans.. The Yankee presence with both the minor league team and ST not to mention the number of NY transplants.. DOA.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@ronpeacock9939 I think the interleague play comes down to every team wanting the opportunity to host every star player. Can you imagine American League teams never hosting Ohtani and the Dodgers? Or National League teams going through Judge's entire career and never having him at their ballpark? I think of a guy like Stan Musial who was one of the greatest of all time, yet never appeared in half of the ballparks. His stardom would have been even bigger if he had the opportunity.

  • @ronpeacock9939

    @ronpeacock9939

    9 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I used to agree with that.. but with today's UFA's and their movements and the fact that we don't hear about that from the NFL where you only see some teams every 4 years (8 for your house) and teams in the same conference is the rankings are just right... a long time... when most of the country don't even live in an MLB market... and quite a few of the biggest (NYC, LA, Chi) markets have teams in both leagues... some people may say that.. I don't.. I don't want to see Ohtani... He give my team the bird when they tried to sign him from Japan before even allowing them to make a pitch... I never want to see him personally.. the Dodgers... they are traitors.. the way that team treated their fans in teh 50's.. I wouldn't go to a dodgers game if I was paid to do it.. yeah, I know the ownership and front office people to did that are long gone... it was still wrong and forgiveness in pro-sports won't happen for me.. if they want love.. get a dog

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    @@ronpeacock9939 I always struggle with the NFL comparison. You are completely right, but with only 17 games it doesn't equate the same as 162. I don't live anywhere near a team, but I still like to see each team come in to play my favorites. As for Ohtani I made a whole video on the issues I have. It was not popular (lots of views, plenty of hate) but I don't have the same crush on him as the media does. I feel he is more like Lebron in that way, but for some reason gets no heat for leaving the Angels.

  • @conradhauser17
    @conradhauser175 күн бұрын

    Seriously, you have at least 5 teams tanking and you want expansion???

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 күн бұрын

    You have at least 5 teams tanking in every league in every year. That's part of the game

  • @rufust.firefly4890

    @rufust.firefly4890

    14 сағат бұрын

    @@3up3down Yeah well, post season teams under .500 doesn't really get it and it's a possibility.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 сағат бұрын

    @@rufust.firefly4890 it may be possible but really hasn't happened and is unlikely to this year

  • @EllinoItalos
    @EllinoItalos6 күн бұрын

    Florida needs more teams. Put both expansion teams in Florida. Matter of fact, put both teams in Orlando. LOL>

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    Clearly a fan of empty stadiums

  • @user-kd1wh8oh5j
    @user-kd1wh8oh5j10 күн бұрын

    What about Vancouver?

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    10 күн бұрын

    I would absolutely love that. As far as I know there is no ownership group and I'm not sure where you build a stadium

  • @HoshizakiYoshimasa
    @HoshizakiYoshimasa9 күн бұрын

    No more Canada teams. Toronto is enough. Make the rat of Canada form their own pro baseball league. Like what Korea did after Japan told them no to expansion in Japans league.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    There just isn't the population in Canada to make that work. Plus the travel is simply not possible. Korea is a lot smaller than Canada. All the top North American leagues include Canada and the US (except the Nfl)

  • @user-mg7pn9ex2b
    @user-mg7pn9ex2b7 күн бұрын

    8 divisions with 4 teams each is terrible ideal. It should be 4 divisions with 8 teams each. 4 division winners with 4 wild card teams. Relocate the Rays & Marlins, neither team can draw. 2023 playoffs is prime example of this. Put the Rays in Nashville, Marlins in Montreal, Angels in Oakland, put new teams in Utah & Austin or Indianapolis. Make the DH optional, most DH'ers stink, let the pitchers hit. Eliminate the AL & NL & combine it as MLB with East Coast & West Coast Conferences.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    7 күн бұрын

    I'm all for 4 divisions with 8 teams but the rest isn't happening. Baseball will not completely leave Florida. The Rays deserve a new stadium and opportunity. The DH essentially is optional already. You can use a pitcher in that spot just as the Angels used Ohtani. The issue is none of them can hit. And there isn't enough balance to split completely east west unless you start calling places like Chicago west coast

  • @user-mg7pn9ex2b

    @user-mg7pn9ex2b

    6 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Some pitchers are pretty good with the bat, & they are not an automatic out. I believe that if you can play on the field, you can bat.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    @@user-mg7pn9ex2b there is no way the pitcher is coming back to hit. If they can hit a team would use them. They simply can't hit any more

  • @HoshizakiYoshimasa
    @HoshizakiYoshimasa9 күн бұрын

    Keep American and National League intact. it's tradition and more interesting than the BORING East West partition of North American Sports.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    I hope they keep that tradition. Just brought up to date to make the schedule make sense still.

  • @larrystaley21

    @larrystaley21

    9 күн бұрын

    30 total is not a good number for scheduling. 32 is perfect.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    9 күн бұрын

    @@larrystaley21 100% agree with that

  • @michaellewter8671
    @michaellewter867111 күн бұрын

    Let me ask you a question..not that you'll respond ...why is it that guys like you and the rest of these speculating jokers when you start talking about potential cities that Major League Baseball could expand to talk about those cities and mention other sports but ALWAYS....ALWAYS ignore the one professional sports league that also has a season that coincides with baseball.. Major League Soccer? You do realize that all 4 cities (Charlotte, Nashville , Portland, Salt Lake City) that you project to possibly get a possible expansion franchise do in fact have very well supported MLS franchises in those cities do you not? .. Listen Dude .yoy cannot dismiss the fact that professional soccer has risen greatly in popularity and in attendance in this country and is pushing MLB in terms of competing for fans and there have been days this season where they have had matches the same day as their MLB counterparts and have out drawn them in attendence.numbers. Check for yourself and you will see. The younger generation has chosen Major League Soccer as the sport of choice. That doesn't mean MLB cannot go to these cities but you create content and present incomplete facts by totally dismissing another league that will exist during the sane season and has become the extremely popular despite the many dismissing ut as a non existent entity ..while you hype a league that is slowly destroying itself financially and making it all but virtually impossible for people to attend games withiut doending an exorbitant as mount of money. You guys make these things and you're clueless. It doesn't matter though.That's why all the teams in MLS built their own stadiums..that,'s why the world's best player Lionel Messi came here to play for Miami and thry can play the Kansas City MLS team in a match st Arrowhead Stadium and draw close to 70,000 supporters .. The Royals played at home the same day and drew 17,000......., You need to be more informative and truthful despite how you may personally feel about a certain. sport.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    I am more than happy to respond and I appreciate the comment and critique. You are absolutely correct that MLS is soaring in popularity and at a grassroots level in North America participation in soccer is exceeding participation in baseball. Part of the reason is media bias as in North America we are influenced by the talk of the 4 major North American leagues and tend to dismiss MLS because of this. As well, the vast majority of the recognizable players in MLS spent the primes of their career in European leagues. MLS is doing a much better job of growing and developing North American talent, but until those players start participating in North America rather than Europe it will continue to be dismissed as a lesser league. The best baseball players in the world play in MLB. The best hockey players in the world play in the NHL. The issue is the best soccer players in the world play in the Premier League, in the Bundesliga, in Ligue One. They do not play in MLS and that is the problem. MLS is doing an incredible job of attracting attention and creating events to see some of the former best players in the world. But to think Messi is still the same as he was at Barcelona or PSG simply is not true. When MLS has the best players in the world in their prime playing they will be credited as being the best, but that is not happening at this moment. Manchester City would destroy the MLS champion. The Texas Rangers would crush any baseball champion from any league in the world. This is the reason I personally can not put MLS on this level.

  • @TimFrith24
    @TimFrith2412 күн бұрын

    AL East Baltimore Orioles Boston Red Sox New York Yankees Toronto Blue Jays AL North Chicago White Sox Cleveland Guardians Detroit Tigers Minnesota Twins AL South Houston Astros Kansas City Royals Tampa Bay Rays Texas Rangers AL West Colorado Rockies Las Vegas Athletics Los Angeles Angels Seattle Mariners NL East Montreal Expos New York Mets Philadelphia Phillies Washington Nationals NL North Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds Milwaukee Brewers Pittsburgh Pirates NL South Atlanta Braves Miami Marlins Nashville Stars St. Louis Cardinals NL West Arizona Diamondbacks Los Angeles Dodgers San Diego Padres San Francisco Giants

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    I love the inclusion of the Expos. I do hope they have a chance. I find it tough to seperate the Cardinals and Cubs with their history

  • @TimFrith24

    @TimFrith24

    12 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down I hope Montreal Baseball Group will build a new ballpark on the IGA Stadium site at Jarry Park.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    @@TimFrith24 that would be amazing. I just don't know how they get the funding. Governments sure don't seem eager to help.

  • @TimFrith24

    @TimFrith24

    12 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down Maybe Stephen Bronfman and his group will build a new ballpark on the former Blue Bonnets Raceway site.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    12 күн бұрын

    @@TimFrith24 that may be the only way to get the Expos back. I know I'd be there if they came back

  • @EllinoItalos
    @EllinoItalos6 күн бұрын

    These smaller cities trying to get pro sports teams need to be put back in their place.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    Maybe because the big ones already have teams

  • @willp.8120

    @willp.8120

    4 күн бұрын

    Charlotte is nearly at 3 million people in their metropolitan area and its population is larger than Baltimore, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Kansas City. It will probably pass Denver in population within the next five years. Charlotte also could pull from North and South Carolina, which, combined, equals around 16 million people.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 күн бұрын

    @@willp.8120 it certainly makes a lot of sense

  • @EllinoItalos
    @EllinoItalos6 күн бұрын

    San Antonio never gets an MLB team. Not while I live.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    6 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the comment Mr. Manfred

  • @willp.8120

    @willp.8120

    4 күн бұрын

    I think that San Antonio will get an NFL team. I see MLB going to Austin in the future but not San Antonio.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    4 күн бұрын

    @@willp.8120 both need to figure out where to build stadiums

  • @stewgotz1
    @stewgotz111 күн бұрын

    8 Div./ 4 Teams/ 6 P.O.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MLB becoming like NHL/NBA.........nope, this sucks

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    11 күн бұрын

    Would you prefer 4 divisions of 8 teams with 6 playoff spots per league (I'd say top 2 in each division plus 2 wildcards, division winners get bye)??? I don't love the NHL format, but it's far better than the NBA. The whole 10 teams play in just cheapens the entire playoff structure.

  • @rufust.firefly4890
    @rufust.firefly489014 сағат бұрын

    There's too many teams now. Talent is weak, mollycoddled pitchers. Baseball has become like the other sports. Too many post season teams, WCs. Hockey and the NBA are a joke.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    5 сағат бұрын

    There's hardly too many teams, but just my opinion. There us a growing talent base. I'm not sure I understand the too many postseason teams comment. 12 out of 30 is the fewest of any daily sport

  • @arthur131313
    @arthur1313132 күн бұрын

    Portland Antifas?

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    2 күн бұрын

    You never know with Portland

  • @arthur131313

    @arthur131313

    2 күн бұрын

    @@3up3down uniforms may be all black

  • @snackcakeman
    @snackcakeman8 күн бұрын

    The last thing MLB needs to do is expand. Game is already diluted.

  • @3up3down

    @3up3down

    8 күн бұрын

    I appreciate the comment, but have to agree to disagree. I think there is a huge amount of talent, but some us hidden in the minors due to playing time and to avoid service time. It's less diluted than the nhl and nba

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